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Jul 24, 8:23 AM
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So I watched episode 2 and thought it was so bad that I couldn't get through the last few minutes of the episode. It really felt like a confirmation that everything that could go wrong with this show would go wrong. Spoilers for episode 2.

- Every girl in existence falls madly in love with the edgelord MC because he's just so cool
- The edgelord MC resolves every incident while using his super intelligence to totally school all the fools around him

These are the two things that need to not be true for the show to be good, but episode 2 had them on full display. What especially sickened me was that the king is portrayed as a fool because he tried to make his daughter get married. Excuse him for prioritizing the stability of the realm over the feelings of one girl. Isn't the princess actually tyrannical for putting her own feelings above the wellbeing of the nation?

But what REALLY, REALLY bothers me is how this girl is then called a "nice person" for... trying to kill herself in order to throw her kingdom into chaos, an act which would condemn an untold number of innocents to suffering and/or death, all because she doesn't really wanna fulfill her duties... but then she CHANGED HER MIND at the last second! What a nice gal!

And then Shadow the Hedgehog beats the big monster because he's just so cool. The princess is put in charge, because she has just such a good track record when it comes to making decisions, while her father, humiliated from his MISTAKE of requiring her to have obligations, has to stand to the side in disgrace.

So this episode convinced me that all my worst fears about the show were confirmed. The suicidal protagonist is portrayed as a wise and courageous antihero, everyone he meets is deeply fascinated by him, and he saves the day by taking action while everyone else looks on in amazement. The message of episode 2 is that parents are just such stupid idiots when they try to make you do stuff, and I really can't help but wonder if this says something about the author.

But I do wonder if I was just overreacting. Am I wrong for dropping this?
Jul 24, 8:45 AM
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Is this your first isekai or something?

Jul 24, 8:48 AM
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This is a parody, this is parodying the isekai genre, and you seem to be taking it too seriously, that's the problem, nothing else

But seeing as you don't have much anime in your list, come back to this when you have watched way more isekai's, then you will actually appreciate the show
Jul 24, 8:51 AM
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I think if you aren’t enjoying something, it’s valid to drop it. It is what it is, don’t force yourself to indulge in something you don’t like. That being said, I’ll just add this picture here. The manga for some reason doesn’t have the parody tag, but regardless a main part of the comedy seems to be making fun of common isekai tropes. By of course playing into the tropes. If you don’t like that, that’s fine
Jul 24, 8:53 AM
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Absolutely not. If you're not enjoying an anime, dropping it is the logical action take.
Jul 24, 8:54 AM
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WhiteForAReason said:
So I watched episode 2 and thought it was so bad that I couldn't get through the last few minutes of the episode. It really felt like a confirmation that everything that could go wrong with this show would go wrong. Spoilers for episode 2.

- Every girl in existence falls madly in love with the edgelord MC because he's just so cool
- The edgelord MC resolves every incident while using his super intelligence to totally school all the fools around him

These are the two things that need to not be true for the show to be good, but episode 2 had them on full display. What especially sickened me was that the king is portrayed as a fool because he tried to make his daughter get married. Excuse him for prioritizing the stability of the realm over the feelings of one girl. Isn't the princess actually tyrannical for putting her own feelings above the wellbeing of the nation?

But what REALLY, REALLY bothers me is how this girl is then called a "nice person" for... trying to kill herself in order to throw her kingdom into chaos, an act which would condemn an untold number of innocents to suffering and/or death, all because she doesn't really wanna fulfill her duties... but then she CHANGED HER MIND at the last second! What a nice gal!

And then Shadow the Hedgehog beats the big monster because he's just so cool. The princess is put in charge, because she has just such a good track record when it comes to making decisions, while her father, humiliated from his MISTAKE of requiring her to have obligations, has to stand to the side in disgrace.

So this episode convinced me that all my worst fears about the show were confirmed. The suicidal protagonist is portrayed as a wise and courageous antihero, everyone he meets is deeply fascinated by him, and he saves the day by taking action while everyone else looks on in amazement. The message of episode 2 is that parents are just such stupid idiots when they try to make you do stuff, and I really can't help but wonder if this says something about the author.

But I do wonder if I was just overreacting. Am I wrong for dropping this?

This show is not meant to be taken seriously
Jul 24, 8:55 AM
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You’re never “wrong” for dropping a show. If, for whatever reason, you wanna stop watching something, you have every right to do so.

However, I DO think you’re overreacting somewhat. The show is a comedy, one about a dude whose desire to die is matched only by his ability to live. The feats he accomplishes and the reputation it gives him are footnotes, missteps even, on the road to his suicide.

Of course, it being a comedy doesn’t mean you HAVE to find it funny, but the show clearly isn’t taking itself seriously, and, whether you continue to watch it or not, I don’t think you should either.
Jul 24, 9:10 AM
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WhiteForAReason said:
So I watched episode 2 and thought it was so bad that I couldn't get through the last few minutes of the episode. It really felt like a confirmation that everything that could go wrong with this show would go wrong. Spoilers for episode 2.

- Every girl in existence falls madly in love with the edgelord MC because he's just so cool
- The edgelord MC resolves every incident while using his super intelligence to totally school all the fools around him

These are the two things that need to not be true for the show to be good, but episode 2 had them on full display. What especially sickened me was that the king is portrayed as a fool because he tried to make his daughter get married. Excuse him for prioritizing the stability of the realm over the feelings of one girl. Isn't the princess actually tyrannical for putting her own feelings above the wellbeing of the nation?

But what REALLY, REALLY bothers me is how this girl is then called a "nice person" for... trying to kill herself in order to throw her kingdom into chaos, an act which would condemn an untold number of innocents to suffering and/or death, all because she doesn't really wanna fulfill her duties... but then she CHANGED HER MIND at the last second! What a nice gal!

And then Shadow the Hedgehog beats the big monster because he's just so cool. The princess is put in charge, because she has just such a good track record when it comes to making decisions, while her father, humiliated from his MISTAKE of requiring her to have obligations, has to stand to the side in disgrace.

So this episode convinced me that all my worst fears about the show were confirmed. The suicidal protagonist is portrayed as a wise and courageous antihero, everyone he meets is deeply fascinated by him, and he saves the day by taking action while everyone else looks on in amazement. The message of episode 2 is that parents are just such stupid idiots when they try to make you do stuff, and I really can't help but wonder if this says something about the author.

But I do wonder if I was just overreacting. Am I wrong for dropping this?

bro if you want to know about Osamu Dazai story then hear me out
Osamu Dazai was a novelist and he wrote a book called "No Longer Human" which is basically his biography and the book is adapted in anime form in "Blue Literature" you don't have to watch whole 12 episode series just watch episode 1-4 named no longer human other episodes are different stories written by different writers.
I think that the story of Osamu Dazai is really dark and interesting that you have to watch yourself to find out
Jul 24, 9:52 AM
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If it's something you don't see yourself not liking, then drop it. I at least try to give the majority of the season a try before sorting out what I'm going to watch and what I don't like.
Jul 24, 9:56 AM
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Fail_Man_X said:
Absolutely not. If you're not enjoying an anime, dropping it is the logical action take.

honestly people need to embrace this. not all content is for all people and that's okay
Jul 24, 10:09 AM

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No. You don't like it, you don't watch it. Simple.
Jul 24, 10:10 AM
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yes you are wrong for dropping.

it seems like you haven't watched many isekai( under the assumption that this is your real account ). Will they say most isekai's are trash, for no reason. maby isekai isn't for you. but still wondering if you rated shadow gardens an 8/10, what's so hard about watching this.

Anyway if something is too hard/unbearable to watch. it's better it to drop it or put it on hold and watch it after a long period of time .
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Jul 24, 10:32 AM
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Everyone has different tastes on the type of anime, if you don't enjoy it just drop it.
Bear in mind that anime does not make logical and practical sense, especially animes from the isekai, ecchi, and harem genre.
Jul 24, 11:06 AM

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CrunchyCrobat said:
This is a parody, this is parodying the isekai genre, and you seem to be taking it too seriously, that's the problem, nothing else

But seeing as you don't have much anime in your list, come back to this when you have watched way more isekai's, then you will actually appreciate the show

That should have been way obvious when a fucking truck comes and rams over the MC in the first few minutes of the premiere during the double suicide scene. The MC's name is Osamu fucking Dazai. And cherry on top is the title of the anime "Isekai Shikkaku"/"No longer allowed in another world" which is a reference to one of Osamu Dazai's books "Ningen Shikkaku"/"No longer Human"
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Jul 24, 11:35 AM
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I think he will NOT like Konosuba 😭😭
Jul 24, 11:37 AM
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this looks like a fake acc tbh only 25 entrys or they are new to anime
Jul 24, 12:36 PM
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Yes. The producers will find you and throw you out of a window. Your family too.
Jul 24, 12:42 PM
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if u are dropping this after ep 2 than u are not a isakai guy, so don't watch other isakai shows as well...
Jul 24, 1:07 PM
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Yes bro, you're overreacting. I will just leave it at that, Everyone's mindset is different.

And no, you're not wrong for dropping it. if you can't bear watching it or don't like something in the anime then you should definitely drop it.
Jul 24, 2:03 PM
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Your anime entry list says a lot about you. Like some said above, the anime is PARODY. You get that? PARODY. And I am not even watching the anime since I heard it is gonna be dubbed but I am reading and have caught up to the manga. One thing I'll tell you is that if you do decide to drop this anime, you are dropping a hidden gem.

That is all I'll say.
Jul 25, 6:30 AM
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If you’re not enjoying it, drop it. No need to seek validation from or try to influence others.

Personally it’s one of my favorite shows this season & I think it’s one of the funnier isekai parodies I’ve seen.
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Jul 25, 10:01 AM

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This shit is lame, his book is not a great read either.
Jul 25, 10:47 AM
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idk, because i actually enjoyed the 2nd episode ( and every other episode that's out). This is just a casual isekai that's a bit different to most. i think the anime is executed really well and is great, but if you wana drop it, then do it. it doesn't change my opinion on it. if you dont like something, then drop it and watch smt else.
Jul 25, 12:36 PM
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CrunchyCrobat said:
This is a parody, this is parodying the isekai genre, and you seem to be taking it too seriously, that's the problem, nothing else

But seeing as you don't have much anime in your list, come back to this when you have watched way more isekai's, then you will actually appreciate the show

Spot on here.. I think a lot of people are struggling with understanding this one. Personally I think it’s a HUGE breath of fresh air. It’s hilarious, ridiculous, and completely insane and that’s what makes it so good. People need to understand that the Mc doesn’t give a f$&@. He wants to die with the woman he loves and nothing is going to stop him. If he has to kidnap and sell a busload of nuns to a brothel that’s what he’s going to do. He’s not a hero and he doesn’t want to be.
Jul 26, 5:11 AM
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I wanted to drop it bc I don't watch much Isekai and the fact that it's a parody went completely over my head hahaha, now it actually seems funny? I was wondering why they were using such cooked CGI but now it makes sense, I guess if you're not familiar with the tropes of a certain genre then something like this would be hard to digest
Jul 26, 8:00 AM
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WhiteForAReason said:
So I watched episode 2 and thought it was so bad that I couldn't get through the last few minutes of the episode. It really felt like a confirmation that everything that could go wrong with this show would go wrong. Spoilers for episode 2.

- Every girl in existence falls madly in love with the edgelord MC because he's just so cool
- The edgelord MC resolves every incident while using his super intelligence to totally school all the fools around him

These are the two things that need to not be true for the show to be good, but episode 2 had them on full display. What especially sickened me was that the king is portrayed as a fool because he tried to make his daughter get married. Excuse him for prioritizing the stability of the realm over the feelings of one girl. Isn't the princess actually tyrannical for putting her own feelings above the wellbeing of the nation?

But what REALLY, REALLY bothers me is how this girl is then called a "nice person" for... trying to kill herself in order to throw her kingdom into chaos, an act which would condemn an untold number of innocents to suffering and/or death, all because she doesn't really wanna fulfill her duties... but then she CHANGED HER MIND at the last second! What a nice gal!

And then Shadow the Hedgehog beats the big monster because he's just so cool. The princess is put in charge, because she has just such a good track record when it comes to making decisions, while her father, humiliated from his MISTAKE of requiring her to have obligations, has to stand to the side in disgrace.

So this episode convinced me that all my worst fears about the show were confirmed. The suicidal protagonist is portrayed as a wise and courageous antihero, everyone he meets is deeply fascinated by him, and he saves the day by taking action while everyone else looks on in amazement. The message of episode 2 is that parents are just such stupid idiots when they try to make you do stuff, and I really can't help but wonder if this says something about the author.

But I do wonder if I was just overreacting. Am I wrong for dropping this?

U can drop any anime that u feel not interesting.
Jul 26, 9:27 AM

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It's called overthinking, not overreacting. Most of the time, it leads you to really weird thoughts, instead of the best conclusion. Wondering if something totally unimportant was wrong or not, is a symptom of it.
Jul 26, 8:04 PM
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Idk I mean sounds like a normal issikai but it’s more so a comedy, although your never wrong in dropping somthing if you truely don’t like it
Jul 26, 11:45 PM
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There's nothing wrong with dropping something you don't want to watch anymore. You also don't need to take every gag seriously. Most gags are meant to be stupid so that they will be funny. Unless some author can do it in a smarter way, Also, it wasn't as edgy as Arifureta or Failure Frame. It was just a chill dude wanting to die.
Jul 30, 7:54 PM
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A lot of people have suggested that I'm new to isekai or anime in general, but this is just a new account. I have a giant stack of isekai LNs that I've read, and I'm honestly a bit of an isekai fanatic. I even liked the vending machine anime. I only started this account because keeping track of all the anime I'm watching was becoming a pain.
Jul 30, 8:47 PM
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Does bro doesn't understand parody comedy?
Jul 31, 8:24 AM

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I dropped it too. It's not bad or unbearable, and I don't mind the comedy/parody aspects. It just doesn't have something compelling enough to keep me engaged for 12 episodes (~3 months). Maybe I'll give it another shot in the future if the feedback is overwhelmingly positive, but I highly doubt it.
Jul 31, 8:30 AM
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What If I said your are wrong for dropping? Will you pick it up again probably no? We are like 8 Billion different minded people in this world, every single person has something uncommon to others. So yeah u did nothing wrong but one thing I can say it's gets better as story progresses (take this as my opinion).
Anyways I am a manga reader.
So, I know the story about this one and it's better and intresting to see for me.
Even I hope to see another season.. Lol.
Jul 31, 9:28 AM

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OP, you're not going to get reasonable or even at least decent replies in here. The bottom of the barrel users in this site will patronize you and educate because you don't coomsume the trash they do and think it's normal for them (making you the weird one).

Isekai trash plays the "iTs a pArODy aBoUt iSeKai" card so often that it just stops being a parody and it's just a shitposting anime with an isekai angle. These people need to understand that comedy and parodies aren't free of criticism and there needs to be some bigger narrative or message at the end of all this non sense, but a lot of these cheap vapor wave "isekai parodies" don't, because they are cheap to produce and quick to sell (it's the low hanging fruit). Just look at something like Family Guy that aired for literally years, it was so polarizing between hardcore fans and hard critics, but even even among the biggest fans plenty of people acknowledges that a lot of it's jokes either go to far or are just too stretched out but no one in my personal experience has played "oh it's a parody of something" and use it as some get out of jail card.

WhiteForAReason said:
The suicidal protagonist is portrayed as a wise and courageous antihero, everyone he meets is deeply fascinated by him, and he saves the day by taking action while everyone else looks on in amazement.


I pretty much saw this coming since episode 1. It made me eyeroll so hard when some of the users in here said "oh this is such a refreshing isekai" when it does exactly as every other trash isekai does by making a powerful protag that will have loyal followers despite him not even caring about them. Like I said, don't expect good reasoning in here when it comes to dissecting garbage isekai.
Jul 31, 11:13 AM

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Actually, the biggest flag OP should be careful with are replies that attack other opinions. Reading them would fuel your overthinking tendency to no end.
Jul 31, 1:07 PM
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I am only 2 episodes in, and I already thinking about dropping this. Even though I've watched a lot of anime, some about isekai, but that doesn't mean I know what to exact or have any expectation at all. But I'll say I always try to be open minded, even though sometimes I don't agree with the plot or the messages it might trying to send. Afterall, this is an anime, and I won't take it too seriously. It is what it is.
Aug 7, 6:15 PM

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I am having so much fun with this show. I think each episodes is more delightful than the one before it so maybe give it another go.
Aug 13, 9:31 PM

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I watched to episode 5 and also am considering dropping it. It is a parody but while it is entertaining enough, the jokes aren't making me laugh that much. I find the idea interesting with Dazai and everything. The main issue I see as someone(who is much more critical of the show) else pointed out is that the Isekai genre have so many bad ones that trying to parody the genre by going to the extreme on the tropes just won't work. But as others have said, it's hard for you to judge without watching other Isekais first.

Normally when you parody a trope, you can invert viewer expectations or just turn it up to 11 so it's absolutely ridiculous to kind of make a statement. However the latter is already slowly becoming the standard of non-parody isekai. When normal isekai is already leaning super heavily onto these tropes, it's hard to parody them by trying to be even more ridiculous. Which is what i see the main failing of this show. Rather than making fun of the tropes, it feels like just another isekai in practice. The parody aspect is only obvious with the main character's motivation and lack of concern for everything else.

Also despite being a parody, you need character development and a decent plot. The plot idea by episode 4-5 is pretty interesting but that's quite far in to start selling the show most of the time. It might end up good but with how it has started off, I wouldn't put my hopes up. Overall the ideas are there but the execution isn't really up to snuff I think.

In this sense, it might be best to watch good Isekai and then watch this. You might enjoy it then because it plays on those tropes to a extreme degree relative to the more measured examples. But if you watch a lot of mediocre isekai, this might feel too similar to those to be funny as in practice they aren't too different and thus not enough for the parody to work.

Konosuba is another parody but takes the inversion route. Where all the tropes appear but it never ends up how the viewer (or the main character for that matter) expects it to. IMO Konosuba is the far better parody and also maintains character development throughout the story, albeit its a slow burn development. Interactions are also more organic which helps the characters break out of their tropes. (not walking tropes)
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If I am being honest, the first 2 episodes weren't that strong. They felt generic. Only thing kept me watching, was the Main Character. It was a refreshing change to have a depressed main character, and to be honest, he somewhat was kinda cool in my eyes. Despite the weaker comedy scenes, it started to get interesting with episode 3 in a non-comedy way for me. I am now at episode 7 and it became even better. Remember the first episode, when they said Sensei is a writer? That writer aspect will get stronger from episode 3 on. Well, I am limited to what information to give here, because it would spoiler you.

In my opinion, you can give it another chance with episode 3 and onwards. But if you still don't enjoy it, then it is just not to your liking. Feel free to drop anything you are not really into. Someone here said you don't need the confirmation of others to drop something, and I agree. But in some cases, some Animes suddenly get better after a few episodes. And for the sake of finding out whether they will get better or not, I think it is not wrong to ask here.

About the princess: Well, she is 16. She is basically a kid, without having solidified her character yet. Even in our time, in psychology it is said, that humans usually solidify their character at an age of 25. So, until then, they can still be very susceptible for manipulation. Remember the times when you were younger, and the most awkward ideas moved you emotionally and made you want to try them out. That said, the age of 16 is usually still in the phase of puberty or post-puberty. Also, it is a common thing that many people change their minds, in the worst case, right before it is going to be too late. People using their brain, understanding, having their emotions under control, are unfortunately rarer than you think. Most people are heavily selfish and do not care about others in our time.

And in general, the Anime is supposed to be a parody. While there can be serious moments, many things shouldn't be taken seriously.

About women falling for him: Well, only one woman fell for him. The other just tags along, afaik. And watching more, it won't be only about women.

About your aspect of parents trying to educate their children: I think arranged marriages are something different compared to education. They can work out, but at the same time they impact the whole life of a person. I don't think you can easily compare arranged marriage with normal parental education. Plus, why should she put the realm's stability over her own feelings? That reminds me of a situation, where a friend told another friend, that they should stop being sad about small things, because in other countries, people suffer, starve and have bigger worries. It makes no sense, that one isn't allowed to be sad, because somewhere else people have seemingly bigger problems. You just can't compare both. One is allowed to be emotional and sad, without needing to compare the weights of suffering. So, while you question the princess, why not question rest of humanity, who awkwardly expects her to marry against her will for humanity's sake (called hedonistic/utility calculus by the way, when choosing the option with the highest benefit/pleasure for the biggest group)? Why isn't humanity allowing her to marry whoever she wants, for the princess' sake? Just because something is normal in society, it doesn't mean it is good.

And about the depressed good person: Well, look at it like this: There are successful and rich people, who are cold hearted and selfish. So why shouldn't there be good people who lost hope?
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No you are not. This appeal to a certain demographic of incels.
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If you are allergic to bullshit like that, then there will be more.
I am able to ignore bs stuff in anime that doesn't treat itself overly seriously, and for me this is one of them.
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Regardless of whether it is parody or not this show is at least decent for me. I think the author is simply just trying to point out the simple things that get overlooked by people. The king wasn't wrong, it's just that he didn't properly communicate things to his daughter. And this kind of narrative continues throughout the anime. If you take everything at face value it is a very eye rolling experience. Even as a parody, the mc's tendency to suicide is a bit too much at times. Sure, it is a parody about dazai osamu but that doesn't excuse the author to make him suicide every few seconds. Dropping it is not wrong and understandable. So, you're not really in the wrong here.

Now that the anime finished airing the only thing that bothers me is that most of the girls are useless. They're literally there to move sensei and the story to a direction that the author desire. Literally just there for plot device. And i hate whenever the priest shout "shield". The way she pronounce it just bugs me. And sensei's party members barely contributes anything at all. Even though they're there to help in case a fight breaks out, most of the times their help amounts to a tickle for the villains. The action scenes is decent but wasted because only sensei can actually resolve the conflict. And the author sure loves to drag on a fight before sensei actually arrives or draws a conclusion. A very roundabout way of narrative. And not really enjoyable because it focuses on solely one person to carry the story.
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I get dropping it on EP 2, I'd say once EP 4 happened, I was hooked. Props to the uniqueness of MC's ability.
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It's your prerogative to drop it but at least one of the reasons you dropped it is wrong; only one woman falls in love with him over the entire season and even his love from his original world rejects him when they meet again.

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