Mathi786 said: @SimplyBrazen I can't believe you said that. just because they're his biological parents then yes he should automatically care for them more than anything in the world, like are you kidding with me, I m talking about parents man, parents, mom and dad, their is literally nobody in the world more dear to a person than his parents (not even wife) You've been raised by your parents. That's why you're close to them. If a human child isn't raised by his/her parents and hasn't been with them for most his/her life, they won't care about them. There have been countless experiments on this throughout modern human history. You overestimate human emotions and sensitivity, we're still animals by nature. |
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| yes but he is not the tipe of guy that would go out of his way to to cause harm to someone he is just greedy horny and lazy |
Mathi786 said: @SimplyBrazen I think you're underestimating human connection over some delusional anime protagonist, If you put yourself in his shoes and learn your parents are in danger, I m sure you would go crazy and you'd try to do everything in your power to stop the danger including sacrificing your own life, at least that's what most sane people would do, another thing is, even If you're not raised by your parents, but just a simple confession is enough, like I am your mother, and boom you start to love them, the point is Rudy is a scumbag That's such a childish sentiment😂 Anyways, if you really believe that then you've got your priorities straight, I don't disagree with you on the importance of parental connections, however it is not realistic to say you should always love your parents no matter what. I know ppl who've been raised by their parents, loved by them, and still hate them for whatever reasons. |
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Mathi786 said: @SimplyBrazen First of all it's not childish and you know it, that's how children should be toward their parents And I get what you're saying, there are people like that, I've seen these people very closely but then you should openly call them out THESE PEOPLE ARE SCUMBAG WITHOUT A DOUBT(including Rudy) How it should be is irrelevant, that's just your own opinion and you can't impose it on everyone else just cuz YOU believe it. And I also have never disagreed with you on Rudeus being a scum. I've just given reasons as to why I think the way Rudeus thinks isn't unrealistic nor surprising. |
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Mathi786 said: @SimplyBrazen I don't understand what is your problem, do you disagree with my opinion about parents? why is how it should be irrelevant? and also I keep telling you don't me give excuses on his behalf, the way Rudy think is total bullshit, Rudy is a scum and it doesn't matter what weak reasoning you come up with it can't justify anything My problem is you think like a toddler. You've only made this forum thread to seek validation from those who agree with you and disregard all and any argument from those who have sth to say that differs from your original opinion. If you make a discussion thread and you're not open to accept disagreement, then what even is the point of the thread? Oh, and your sentiment is irrelevant cuz facts don't care about your feelings. But it seems you're not capable of understanding anything I've been saying regarding that. |
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| Took you long enough to realise this. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.  |
| Yes he is. Doesn't change the fact that he is still a great mc who keeps getting better as a human being. Also after so much suffering maybe he deserve a big happiness before another turning point. |
| He told us he is with that exact word. Who are we to change his mind? Lol |
| Adventures in this world are know to sleep around. If you don’t apply your real world morals and look at things objectively most definitely not. |
| only seen season 1 but he grow up in this new world with his old ugly bastard personality and memories anyway |
| Rudy even said that he feels indifferent about parents, especially towards his mother, because he got separated too early from them and he doesn't have enough memories about time he spent with them. |
| That quite literally the main point of the show. Rudy is literal scum who has been given a 2nd chance to become a better person. |
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| yes rudeus greyrat is a scumbag |
| well if it makes people invested in the show, he's gonna have his redemption arc or x users gonna x him via dms, letters, red paint and x gon give it to ya. |
| Scumbag is a literal understatement. |
Mathi786 said: Don't you think that rudy is too indifferent towards his parents That's the thing: They aren't really his parents, just "people he used to live with" (In his own words), and when the incident happened, he already wasn't living with them for the past three years. And remember: He didn't know about the extent of the teleportation incident until he reached Milishon, and he couldn't know his parents were involved, considering that there is quite some distance between "ground zero" (Where he was) and Buena Village. I don't understand your other complaints: He was learning to get stronger throughout the whole journey, and that's not exactly at odds with finding his mother. Speaking of which, that's exactly what he went to do after delivering Eris. Mathi786 said: and he spent years curing himself
>InB4 "But his parents did treat him like their child" Yes, that's the whole point, that's why he got depressed and full of regrets at the end of the season. |
| Rudy is the best. Simple as that :) |
I'm not reading any replies or comments directed at me at all. I know my truth and if you disagree: that's fine but i couldn't give a damn about :) |
| He's not a scumbag. I've watched the series from episode one and have a few episodes left to go in season two, but throughout the length of that viewing experience I haven't seen any one character I would call and just dismiss as a "scumbag", except maybe Pax. But this decision on his part is not one I can agree with. I'm talking about the decision to treat it in a fairly laid-back, easygoing, cavalier manner as if it's no real big deal if it takes years to find your mother who is potentially trapped, imprisoned, enslaved, or in any other form of mortal peril. I don't like the way it was handled in the show and it felt very mishandled, at least in the way it told this part of the story and relayed it to the audience, or made his feelings on the matter clear, which it simply didn't do. I felt as if the season finale of season one and this entire emotional momentum they sought to end and capitalize on really just amounted to a bait and switch. Because his entire motivation for getting over a throwback to the psychological state of his former life (as the person he was back in our world/Earth), over a seemingly almost-insurmountable psychological and emotional hurdle, getting out of bed and taking a step forward, having the courage to face the outside world again after suffering another trauma - That motivation was portrayed to be the absolute vital imperative and necessity of finding Zenith, as if it was the single-most important mission in the world, naturally accompanied by an unspoken sense of urgency. One he was willing to "get over" his fears, depression symptoms, and self-loathing enough to at least set out on a new adventure, risking his own relative safety and comfort hunkered down in his shell for. And then? When season two started the placing of that level of dramatic weight on it just seemed like it was never really revisited and suddenly it transformed into something which it somehow became okay to take this casual wait-and-see, "If it takes another five years, who cares?" approach to. Really didn't like that and rubbed me the wrong way. Definitely one of the weakest points of the series and one of the major details which would contribute to my not giving it too high of a score when rating it. I really don't appreciate when series do this type of thing as it's not just about the character's decision, but the way it's actually written about and framed feels leading and dishonest. Like the momentum built up around it at season one's end was just a blue balls-style cliffhanger without sufficient payoff. If he wasn't shown to care about finding Zenith to begin with, that would be one thing, and one could ridicule and condemn the character for that, but it would be no fault of the show and may, depending on how well-explained and well-executed, even prove a brilliant artistic decision. But instead they had those season one finale scenes all to fizzle into a tease. With that said, purely from the in-universe character perspective alone and not creative writing choices, as far as Rudeus' decision about it, his relationship with his mother would not be the same as any other character's or any other person's in the real world, for that matter, at least if realistic considerations were taken into account. "Mother" or "Mom" is not just an abstract concept where it always fits or conforms to some ideal, or where it's all equal enough to be interchangeable between different sets of people. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt of assuming that his relationship with her is just as unique as any other character's/person's in relation to another, and that his feelings are messy and complicated. So while I would want to move heaven and Earth as quickly as possible, he's not me or anyone else. Then there may be someone he shows greater kindness to or interest in who I wouldn't give a second glance if in the same situation. That's the way of the world. The other major aspect which I found one of the only main (main as in, ones I actually care about) weak points of this show to date, is how this entire subplot started around the time of and was intertwined with the whole Eris drama. Well, not that it was, but, to clarify, I mean the Eris drama itself was weak in conception and overly frustrating for no reason, because it was built on very beaten to death and stereotypical BS anime miscommunication/no communication-based misunderstandings. I can't stand those or how they've proliferated so. As beautiful as that episode was where they had their union of the flesh and key moments especially, the entire melodrama which came out of that soured me on the show for a bit. I got over it as something that happened in a now past, older episode, so that it doesn't detract anymore from newer and current episodes. But anytime it's still brought up in the show and we're forced to revisit that event, like in the conversation with Ruijerd at the new house in Sharia, it temporarily disrupts all the positive the show is otherwise doing and has done since, and brings that acrid taste back to my mouth. |
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