Ankz said: Have heard that most of the good parts of this story occur in the latter half, and seeing as it seems to be getting more care than Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer I’m contemplating sticking it out as I haven’t been a massive fan of the first 2 episodes (they’re not bad necessarily, just kinda meh/forgettable). Can any manga readers give me an estimate as to the rough chapter/expected episode that you could say ‘if you don’t like it by now it just may not be for you’? It’s already good so don’t know what you mean? |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
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ejleon said:
It’s already good so don’t know what you mean?
Ankz said:
Have heard that most of the good parts of this story occur in the latter half, and seeing as it seems to be getting more care than Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer I’m contemplating sticking it out as I haven’t been a massive fan of the first 2 episodes (they’re not bad necessarily, just kinda meh/forgettable). Can any manga readers give me an estimate as to the rough chapter/expected episode that you could say ‘if you don’t like it by now it just may not be for you’?
Have heard that most of the good parts of this story occur in the latter half, and seeing as it seems to be getting more care than Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer I’m contemplating sticking it out as I haven’t been a massive fan of the first 2 episodes (they’re not bad necessarily, just kinda meh/forgettable). Can any manga readers give me an estimate as to the rough chapter/expected episode that you could say ‘if you don’t like it by now it just may not be for you’?
It’s already good so don’t know what you mean?
🙄 OK, does it get better?
| @Ankz I don’t understand, it is already good for viewing, what do you mean by “better” ? |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Ankz said: InNeedOfAName said: It'll start to pick up from episode 7, and it gets good from episode 14 and onwards. I'd say if you don't enjoy the episodes 14-25 or even episodes 14-19 then the series may not be for you. Awesome, exactly the answer I was looking for, thanks! I wasn’t a troll. You are just impatient and unwise. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
InNeedOfAName said: As much as I like Mizukami's stories, they tend to have slow starts and this one has the slowest start out of all his big mangas. I'm glad to see you're enjoying it though. There nothing slow about this anime. It already explained everything we need to know. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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You were being deliberately obtuse and you know it lol. It’s alright though - the other commentor wasn’t, and so I won’t be following this thread any longer.
| @Ankz the show is already enjoyable … I don’t need someone else to tell me what to keep watching like you do |
ejleonJan 19, 10:16 PM
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| I personally love it all, but the beginning in particular is rather slow. Stick with it until "That moment" and you will be gripped to the screen, like how I was with the manga |
| I personally love it all, but the beginning in particular is rather slow. Stick with it until "That moment" and you will be gripped to the screen, like how I was with the manga |
| Episode 1 is when it gets good. |
| Considering it's based on a Mizukami manga, I guess episode 38 |
| :v |
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nero65 said:
Damn bruh, bro just asked a simple question and some idiots are upset.
Damn bruh, bro just asked a simple question and some idiots are upset.
It's unfortunate how people can be sometimes. It's good to discuss and ask questions but then things like this thread happens and that just creates a negative image of the viewers who currently enjoy the series.
| @InNeedOfAName how do you want someone to answer the most stupid question you can ask regarding a show? |
| It’s already good |
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| It's good right from the get go, if you're looking for instant climax moments rather than slow burn stories then you should probably watch something like solo leveling instead. |
| i'll come back here if it does. |
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It'll start to pick up from episode 7, and it gets good from episode 14 and onwards. I'd say if you don't enjoy the episodes 14-25 or even episodes 14-19 then the series may not be for you.
| @InNeedOfAName Thank you for the detailed answer. I'll look forward to how the story unfolds. To other readers: I actually wasn't too keen on the first two episodes, but I warmed up to the show a bit by Episode 3. I think I got a pretty clear idea of what the show is going for by the end of the episode. So I think the usual 3-episode rule can be applied. Of course, we don't know whether the show will live up to its promise later on, but I'm fairly optimistic. |
| i don't know either but since you said it gets better in the second half, then it should get better after ep 19 |
| You can tell that this is the sort of plot to slowly build rather than start off full throttle. They're going to start off episodic, introduce you to the characters, give you some background, let you get to know them, then slowly raise the stakes. At some point there will be a reveal that the plot is much bigger than it initially seemed. I think for some people (maybe if you watch too much TikTok) that's going to feel unsatisfactory. From my point of view, I would rather a show start slow and end really good than it be really awesome at the start and slowly peter out because it has nowhere to go and no long-term plan. The ~6.75 rating this show currently has gives me the feel of people rating it on a sort of short-term view; from my point of view it seems to be laying a decent foundation with a longer-term mindset. It's definitely above the quality of the rating it's currently getting. (I would peg it as at least 7.5, though it depends on how well they execute on what they've set up). The one thing I will note is that this show does feel maybe a little more aimed towards a younger audience, so if you're in your 20s+ it just might not be the right vibe for you. |
| When it started, obviously. |
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You can tell that this is the sort of plot to slowly build rather than start off full throttle. They're going to start off episodic, introduce you to the characters, give you some background, let you get to know them, then slowly raise the stakes. At some point there will be a reveal that the plot is much bigger than it initially seemed.
I think for some people (maybe if you watch too much TikTok) that's going to feel unsatisfactory. From my point of view, I would rather a show start slow and end really good than it be really awesome at the start and slowly peter out because it has nowhere to go and no long-term plan.
The ~6.75 rating this show currently has gives me the feel of people rating it on a sort of short-term view; from my point of view it seems to be laying a decent foundation with a longer-term mindset. It's definitely above the quality of the rating it's currently getting. (I would peg it as at least 7.5, though it depends on how well they execute on what they've set up).
The one thing I will note is that this show does feel maybe a little more aimed towards a younger audience, so if you're in your 20s+ it just might not be the right vibe for you.
I think for some people (maybe if you watch too much TikTok) that's going to feel unsatisfactory. From my point of view, I would rather a show start slow and end really good than it be really awesome at the start and slowly peter out because it has nowhere to go and no long-term plan.
The ~6.75 rating this show currently has gives me the feel of people rating it on a sort of short-term view; from my point of view it seems to be laying a decent foundation with a longer-term mindset. It's definitely above the quality of the rating it's currently getting. (I would peg it as at least 7.5, though it depends on how well they execute on what they've set up).
The one thing I will note is that this show does feel maybe a little more aimed towards a younger audience, so if you're in your 20s+ it just might not be the right vibe for you.
| @ddrcrono I'm noticing the same pattern for Chiyu Mahou this season when people realized that the anime is methodically slow-paced and taking its time to focus on its characters and since then it's been continuously dropping score as well (although not on the same level as Sengoku Youko has been hit with). I still can't fathom how THIS is one of the lower rated shows this season. |
InNeedOfAName said: It'll start to pick up from episode 7, and it gets good from episode 14 and onwards. I'd say if you don't enjoy the episodes 14-25 or even episodes 14-19 then the series may not be for you. It looks like this guy was onto something. I bring good tidings after episode 7: this show really isn't what it seems in the first episode - a happy-go-lucky Shounen adventure fighting yokai. In fact I'm still not sure what it is yet. It's taking some surprising swings, and I keep finding myself more invested than I expected, to the characters and the little goings-on. I wouldn't say there's a clear point where the story really takes off (so far), but it's more of a gradual climb that you don't really notice until afterwards. I'm now pretty excited to see where this goes. |
| Today's chapter was interesting, and the anime has good animation. I'm enjoying it, I think this anime is underrated. |
| bro i doubt you have so much going on in your life on a wednesday that you can't spare 22 minutes to watch the show. Just.. watch the show. it's pretty deec |
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| The fact that the rating is still below 7 is crazy. |
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ejleon said: You are just impatient and unwise. ejleon said: the show is already enjoyable … I don’t need someone else to tell me what to keep watching like you do Dude, just being entertaining isn't enough. We have limited time and spending time staring at the ceiling in silence is ultimately more fulfilling than pure entertainment. It needs to be interesting, or emotional, or something you fall in love with. If you watch every enjoyable anime and every enjoyable manga that comes out, you'll run out of time to exist beyond external stimulation. Mizukami is a trustworthy author, but this is one of his earlier works and so his reputation alone can't carry a series. EDIT: Oh, and a show still needs to be enjoyable for the record. I'm not some art snob who thinks everything needs to be gate-kept to people fine with slogging through boring work. |
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ejleon said:
You are just impatient and unwise.
You are just impatient and unwise.
ejleon said:
the show is already enjoyable … I don’t need someone else to tell me what to keep watching like you do
the show is already enjoyable … I don’t need someone else to tell me what to keep watching like you do
Dude, just being entertaining isn't enough. We have limited time and spending time staring at the ceiling in silence is ultimately more fulfilling than pure entertainment. It needs to be interesting, or emotional, or something you fall in love with. If you watch every enjoyable anime and every enjoyable manga that comes out, you'll run out of time to exist beyond external stimulation.
Mizukami is a trustworthy author, but this is one of his earlier works and so his reputation alone can't carry a series.
EDIT: Oh, and a show still needs to be enjoyable for the record. I'm not some art snob who thinks everything needs to be gate-kept to people fine with slogging through boring work.
| @Tenderizer79 thanks for sharing your opinion, but it was not just entertaining, it was enjoyable to watch, at least for those who don’t need perfection |
ejleonJul 14, 6:22 PM
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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