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| Wow that was an Insane Battle Choregraphy. Love the story, I knew it from the start Orange is the BEST CGI STUDIO!! I heard people complaining there is no Milly in this season like in the OG but there is the confirmation that she will appear in the Sequel, does that mean this is the prequel to the OG Trigun? 8/10 |
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| One word could be enough to describe this final: kino. It'd be elegant to elaborate, so let's go like this: episode 12 of Trigun Stampede was spectacular, full of emotions, with quality topping very high quality we could already see in the previous episodes. Thank you Studio Orange for this marvelous show. It's great to see another Trigun anime project after all these years, and on top of that - TV anime representing truly movie quality in all of its episodes. Heck, a lot of movies look worse than Trigun Stampede and have worse direction or soundboards, haha. |
| Amazing finale. Dont have to say much about it. Anyone here that watched it (it seems there are some that havent, and who are only here to hate?) will know why. 10/10 episode. Surprised to see there's still a few gaslighting and claiming the CGI is bad. ryzxgum said: this season was just fine, nothing crazy. the animation was inconsistent, choppy at times but in closeups or slow-motion scenes it was quite fluid. 6/10 for me, expecting the next season to be better. I'd check where you watched it tbh. I think some of the 'subs' had poor encoding. It wasnt choppy on my end. Then again you mention ''nothing crazy'' and ''just fine'' so I guess you probably just hate CGI if that is the best you have to say about this level of CGI awesomeness. |
| “Ha ha, the synergy between my left and right hand made them feel scared.” Ye Xiu said. |
Evolzetjin said: Absolutely loved it. This adaptation was a really nice surprise, anyone knows which music plays when they're flying/fighting? Where are Legato/Double Fang and the rest lol? Would watch again, I liked this version better than the goofy/relaxed 90s version. Edit, wrong track. Its this one: (Drain Arm) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7XcshZy0Qc |
ElinchayielApr 1, 2023 3:56 PM
| “Ha ha, the synergy between my left and right hand made them feel scared.” Ye Xiu said. |
Elinchayiel said: i don't hate CG, in fact, i've seen much better. 'lupin III: the first' completely blows this out of the water in terms of CGI. that's not to say trigun has bad CG but it's passable for a show. and when i said "nothing crazy" and "just fine", i was talking about the show as a whole, not specifically CG. i don't rate based completely off animation, that's why 1998 trigun is still better than this one.Amazing finale. Dont have to say much about it. Anyone here that watched it (it seems there are some that havent, and who are only here to hate?) will know why. 10/10 episode. Surprised to see there's still a few gaslighting and claiming the CGI is bad. ryzxgum said: this season was just fine, nothing crazy. the animation was inconsistent, choppy at times but in closeups or slow-motion scenes it was quite fluid. 6/10 for me, expecting the next season to be better. I'd check where you watched it tbh. I think some of the 'subs' had poor encoding. It wasnt choppy on my end. Then again you mention ''nothing crazy'' and ''just fine'' so I guess you probably just hate CGI if that is the best you have to say about this level of CGI awesomeness. and did you even read the part i also acknowledged it for being fluid? |
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| What a final episode! whew....What an abolutely fantastic show in general. The score on here is criminally low because og Trigun stans are annoying...and I AM an og Trigun stan but I have damn eyes. omg Milly |
| I never watched the original, I only saw some clips before and of course orginal Vash's design, but all the same I am hyped, LET'S GO! THE SPIKY HAIR! Modern design with the spiky hair fucking slaps hard. So this was like a reboot prequel of the original, I don't know man, but I loved it. Looks like Milly is finally coming, I've heard that she's a fan favorite, so I am looking forward to meeting her, it's pretty cool how Meryl was trying to practice saying newbie like Roberto. RIP Roberto. Damn, Vash got amnesia. I can't wait for the sequel, I hope the airing date gets revealed soon. Overall, this was a great introduction to the Trigun series, especially for newcomers like me. 8/10 |
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Lopopol said: It was mid the original is better. People who actually read the original disagree with that pretty strongly. Oh wait, you werent talking about the original but its first anime adaptation? Sorry to break it to you, but that one was more different from the original then this show is. It also had about 60% filler content, whereas this show literally has none. In some aspects like animation quality this show is unquestionable leagues above the OG show. Its just not even close, and I think anyone that isnt obsessed with the OG show will agree with that part atleast. |
| “Ha ha, the synergy between my left and right hand made them feel scared.” Ye Xiu said. |
| Whoa, Vash's hair! Sixty billion! Insurance! A newbie! Things are getting a lot more familiar. |
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Lopopol said: Hope you find happiness in your life dude.Elinchayiel said: People who actually read the original disagree with that pretty strongly. Oh wait, you werent talking about the original but its first anime adaptation? Sorry to break it to you, but that one was more different from the original then this show is. It also had about 60% filler content, whereas this show literally has none. In some aspects like animation quality this show is unquestionable leagues above the OG show. Its just not even close, and I think anyone that isnt obsessed with the OG show will agree with that part atleast. Thanks for taking the bait |
| “Ha ha, the synergy between my left and right hand made them feel scared.” Ye Xiu said. |
| Oh yea, it's all coming together! |
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| I liked Vash's redesign and I fully expected Milly to return, but I still got overly giddy when Vash returned with his spiky hair or the explicit confirmation of Milly's return. In a sense, it's a bit cheap. Take away iconic staples of the series just so you can bring them back to fanfare. It's effective certainly, but I'm not sure how much praise I'm willing to lend to these. It will ultimately depend on what follows, my biggest hope is Season 2 will feature Vash's more over the top personality, once he gets over the Eriks phase anyway. The very first episode had Vash maniacally laughing while discovered hanging upside down, but after that his buffoonery was never really touched on again, instead he just became a pretty passive/shy character. I'm hoping the return of his hair also signals the return of that side of him, because it's an important part of his appeal. And it seems there might be payoff with the whole Roberto arc before Milly, with her practicing the whole newbie thing but we'll see if it matters much come season two. Outside of those moments of fanwank, I think the rest was also pretty fantastic. For most of the season my internal ranking for the show has been 7, sometimes wavering down to a 6 but to quote Arkada, "the ending is paramount", and now for maybe the first time I'm considering an 8/10. The outright spectacle of this episode is staggering. The CGI hasn't been perfect all the time, I feel like there were some choppy moments throughout the series (often not for action spots, to be fair), but this was pure greatness, top tier movie quality CGI animation from start to finish. There was some great shot composition too, I love the layout of a flying Knives backdropped again the moon as seen in the reflection of the blood he just spilled. Nightow's always been able to capture strong 90's edge grit aesthetics really well, and I feel like that shot is one of Stampede's strongest representation of that sensibility. I still consider Land of the Lustrous/Houseki no Kuni (also done by Orange) to be the best looking CGI anime out there, but this might be the best looking episode for any CGI show. I will have to re-watch Houseki before I can firmly state that, but it's definitely top contender. I still prefer traditional animation but complaining about the CGI direction after episodes like that is baffling to me. While there wasn't strictly a whole lot to this episode outside of the action, what little we did get was excellent. The discussion Vash had with Knives in space was legitimately a series highlight for me, and I feel like it's the best representation of Vash as a character in the series yet. Him crying over the war between brothers, but being able to smile at the end as he talks about running away until he's able to settle by humans side again, perfectly capped off with Knives deriding the answer "After more than a century, that's the best you came up with". Of course, it's not just blind idealism, Vash has reason to believe in humans (largely Rem, and Meryl, Brad, Luida, etc.), but that wasn't super necessary for him to bring up there. Instead that scene serves as a perfect distillation of the conflict between them and their ideology, from Knives anger and shouting to Vash's more solemn contemplations. I do think that perhaps the action here veered too over the top, with Knives burning up as much as he did. Really seemed like his death but he can't really be dead, can he? I'm assuming he was still the final big bad in the manga, not that I've read it yet, and I can't imagine the series will change things up that significantly but with the amount of damage we saw done him returning does feel a little harder to justify. But I suppose considering how weird the series gotten with what plants are previously, it's not that much of a stretch. Also, the series continues it's great detail of dropping the episode's title card at relevant points in the series but this finale gets bonus points for altering the number to not say #12, but to instead said #0, effectively communicating this as the prologue to the proper story starting next season. Which as another side note, I think this season did a great job of concluding the season in a way that totally felt resolved but still left open so much room for the future. There was a fear that it'd wind up feeling too much like set-up for season two and not enough like it's own story arc, but they definitely struck the perfect balance. I'm left satisfied with story told here, while eagerly anticipating the return. But as for the show as a whole, the question is ultimately how much do I let the show's fantastic finale dictate the overall score. And while the 8 is tempting coming off the high of a near perfect finale, I think I'm sticking with my 7 for now. Maybe once I re-watch it dubbed my mind will change, but I still think the show had some earlier problems in the series. The pace was too fast in places. I don't think the characterization is all that good tbh. It's not bad, as the main cast is all likable, but really outside of Wolfwood and gratefully Knives, none of them really get any exploration. Knives is undisputedly a better character here than he every was in the original anime, and Wolfwood is the best boy like always. Vash does get a lot of exploration into his past but I guess I loop back to my note of Vash's personality being really subdued here. His speech to Knives in this episode is one of the few strong showcases of his character I feel. And of course, Roberto and Meryl don't get much in the way of anything until the very end, and Roberto's thing was dying lol. Overall, a 7/10 that occasionally dipped lower but more importantly flew higher when it mattered most. The most important thing is that whenever Trigun returns to us, I'm certain season 2 will managed to make those high the norm. While I don't suspect it'll replace the original anime in my mind, I'm super glad that we've now got two great different versions of Trigun floating around us. |
TerrestriousMar 26, 2:34 AM
| Masterpiece. Nuff said. |
CrumbleGarden said: This is a bad excuse. It seems their second season is more or less guaranteed, so rushing through a first season to put pieces in place just means they don't consider this to be the worthwhile bit. Most of the stuff this season showed was actually new, as in prequel material. With that knowledge in mind its hard to call a fantastic experience like this ''rushed'', so most of the story hasnt even begun to be told. CrumbleGarden said: Especially considering they weakened the impact of scenes they borrowed from the original anime such as the Sandsteamer or the town that tries to capture Vash. The show is inspired and based on the manga source material. Which is the original source, not the OG anime show. So naturally, it will be a lot different from the anime adaptation which in itself was also different from the manga. CrumbleGarden said: No, it's really not. They've changed far too much about the characters and the setting, it's wholly unrelated to the 98 version now. Again, this is based on the original source material, the manga. And again, the 98 version was already quite different from the source material. CrumbleGarden said: He starts and ends Stampede more or less where he began Yeah with no memory, having added the guilt of killing his brother and wiping out an entire town. Wait, what? Saying he's going to continue being the same is too ignorant. CrumbleGarden said: Point is the original Vash had depth, this one doesn't. This is a prequel to where Vash started out. This is part of his depth. In fact if they continue the show (which they will) then this version of Vash (the show and the person) will easily have way more depth then the 98 anime ever did. In fact in some cases like with Knives, it already does. CrumbleGarden said: I'm seeing a lot of this going around with the prologue thing and it's pretty funny how well it's working with some who watched the show. Well duh. Its the truth after all. ''some''? I would argue anyone that isnt been dense would agree its a prologue story of a kind. The end of the show leaves little doubt to that being the case. Might as well argue water is dry or the desert is wet. CrumbleGarden said: the first season was so shallow and poor. First season introduced a whole lot of villains and makes people sympathise with them. Like Vash himself would, and does. If that is not depth and also incredibly true to Trigun's spirit, I dont know what is. CrumbleGarden said: Much like how it had to reveal Knives early 98 anime Knives was a shallow character compared to the source material, or this show's version. CrumbleGarden said: it comes across like the writers don't trust their audience They seem to trust it a great deal if they went through this level of effort in the show's production, despite some very controversial outlash from ''fans'' prior to release. They also seem to have a great trust for the audience to be moved by the experience and be able to grasp the subtles in play in their style of ''show, dont tell''. In this show you can tell what a character is thinking by the way they respond with their models and visual cues ranging from overblown to very minute. That requires trusting the audience to be able to spot those cues. Most anime will instead just flat out say everything, since its fools proof. CrumbleGarden said: their audience to want to come back for more unless there are promises it will pay off the things that people actually wanted to see. Smells like bs, to me. From what ive seen many reactions to the show were ''it keeps me excited every week, waiting to see what comes next''. It makes sense they give more hooks in this final episode. Its the final episode of a season after all. Having ''sequal bait'' is merely the smart thing to do. People don't have to stay expected for just another week, after all. Who knows when the next season will actually release? So giving promises of what is to come when it does release, is a great idea. CrumbleGarden said: They skip through content quickly and let nothing sit and build atmosphere because there doesn't seem to be a belief that anyone would watch for that. The 98 anime was filled with filler episodes, so ofcourse this show will feel ''rushed'' when all the fat is trimmed down. As someone that has read a 180,000+ pages novel series I will still tell you that stories are better without filler. Why? Because the quality will be higher. If a show needs room to breath, then it should be given. But not every type of story needs those extra episodes all the time. Yes, the show was very high paced. But was anything missed that should have been there? Well given that this is still prelude material, thats hard to say at this point. The story in itself was well told. Many things werent elaborated on. On the other hand it also explained things the ''OG'' anime, never did. A show doesnt have to explain everything, and in this case there is much that is still left to be explored in future seasons, atleast one of which we have confirmation is coming. CrumbleGarden said: Much like the spiky hair bit, it's just a shallow 'look look, he has it now, see?' When there's every chance it could just revert back to their superficial original design for this series. It's just a hairstyle in the end. If you really think THAT is the most important aspect of Trigun, I kind of question how much of a fan you even are. Well, aside from already questioning it seeing how you seem to believe the 98 anime is the ''original source'', and believe this is based on it, rather then on the actual original, aka the manga. CrumbleGarden said: The original anime didn't have to rely on a prologue, it was confident in how it revealed past information to the viewer without needing to spend 12 episodes weakly setting things up. The 98 anime had mostly filler content and lacked a lot of the background and characterization Trigun Stampede (and the source manga) offered. At this point all yourself and other 98' diehard fans are doing is forcing people to realise how much better this show is then the 98 anime.. Whereas if you were more forthcoming and accepting of this show, I think people would also recommend watching that one. Instead of coming to the conclusion that ''oh wait, this show is actually way better..'' When you turn it into a war between two shows, people are going to compare them, and sorry to say to you but the 98 show (which is now 25 years old) is at a huge disadvantage here. It lacks the incredible visuals or OST of this show. And it had too much filler, where this show has none. You guys shot yourselves in the foot by hating this show.. |
| “Ha ha, the synergy between my left and right hand made them feel scared.” Ye Xiu said. |
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