| Yes obviously the animation is awful for a big part of the show, the story and world is still pulling you in tho. |
| Really bad animation. Makes me hate that an otherwise interesting story is ruined by the low-fps, crude animation. This could have been one of the more popular anime this season. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
| To those that think that the animation is even remotely acceptable; did we watch the same series? Why are there so many people defending the art and animation as an 'artistic choice' instead of just calling it what is is? For an anime released in the year 2023 this style can only be described as lazy and half-assed. I watch an anime I expect animation. Not a bloody slideshow, powerpoint presentation looking picture book masquerading as some 'artistic' bullshit. Your standards are majorly low if you believe it is acceptable to have a show that looks like this. |
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aqua11alta said: People are confusing art style and animation (both when discussing this series and just in general). The art style for Hikari no Ou is gorgeous and also very refreshing as it's in line with and evokes that older feel distinct from a lot of the modern art styles - evocative both of older series and of the series' setting itself. But the animation is lacking in areas due to budget constraints, most on display in situations like the fire hunters' dogs floating across the sky with little fluid movement. I watched all episodes. I watched many anime with unique art style, like Mob Psycho 100, Gankutsuo, Mononoke, Jojo, etc. I know how to differentiate whether the animation looks like that because it's the concept, or it's just bad animation. Hikari no Ou are indeed art form animation. It has unique art style. But in the same time I can't deny it has terrible animation. Looks like it has small budget, and not enough time and staffs to draw or check the animation. But I can feel the studio and staffs really using their head and try to be creative to compensate what they lack. For example the usage of small windows/panels or still hand painted drawings. I feel like they use most of their budget for the opening song and episode 1. After that the animation just keep going downhill. Fortunately animation is a minor concern and not a big priority for me as I rank it in importance on the list of priorities as far as what I care about in a series after first and foremost writing, then voice acting, music/OST, direction, and even the art style itself above it. But I still can't pretend not to notice it or say it doesn't harm it even a small bit. |
WatchTillTandavaMay 15, 2023 1:36 AM
| I think yes. Picture of the dragon:  I can't say that this is a good quality drawing of the dragon. In some cases Touko's eyes are colored black, when they are actually yellow:   And last thing are static pictures. When some action happens, anime shows static pictures with people talking in background. I don't know if this is a feature of this anime or just lack of budget:  |
Reply to EmmyMoomin
The series takes place in a post apocalyptic world, a yacht existing isn’t that surprising, there’s been a lot of modern stuff shown in this.
| @EmmyMoomin Lack of knowledge caused you to totally misunderstand Androide911's point. PNG is an image file type. AKA... literally a picture. A real photograph. Of a boat. Photoshopped into an anime. Not that such a thing doesn't happen in other anime, and not that it's a poor decision in and of itself, but this thread is about quality of the animation and art style, which is why dude "keked" (4chan speak for the past tense of "lol"), since they (apparently, if what he is saying is true) decided to use a PNG of a boat in a supposedly artistic anime. Mind you, I haven't watched this yet. I came to this discussion thread beforehand to see if it was worth it or not. I'm just trying to be helpful and show how it's easy to misunderstand someone's point if you don't actually know what they mean. |
| I can accept that some people like the animation or that the animation doesn't bother them. BUT I am baffled by some people insisting that "the animation is good". I believe that there's an absolute "bare minimum" level of animation quality that should be expected in 2023, and this show is just not at that level. If the production wanted to "break the rules", they should have done it with clear artistic intent and justification. Yes, characters are allowed to go "off-model" for any number of reasons, like selling a punch-line or intense action. But in this show, characters constantly look "off" when they're just walking down the street or turning their heads during a conversation. Yes, you don't always need swirling cameras, complex choreography, or long takes during an action sequence. But you still have to sell the speed, the danger, and the emotion. Why does this show keep resorting to still images, with the only moving parts being rippling hair and blood sprays, with combatants hanging in the air in awkward poses? Yes, you can have text on full-screen black background, but why does this show keep taking up the whole screen to show a single word that does not add any extra information or impact? Often characters are just explaining lore when this happens, and a caption at the bottom would have been enough. Yes, you can have detailed static illustrations to emphasize a dramatic or picturesque scene, but why does this show do it at seemingly random moments, like when a character is explaining some lore or walking into an empty room? Some of these choices were so strange that they were almost comedic. There were too many instances when the animation noticeably degraded, in terms of smoothness, the amount of movement, accuracy and consistency, while they served no apparent purpose other than to save time or cover up production issues. |
| Oh, it is bad, i won't deny this. I'm sure it is a lack of budget and production issues. Even some background art, if there were some, were not pleasing to the eye. It felt incomplete. Action scenes were the worst to look at since there was so much movement to track and it didn't translate well. But i still kept anticipating the next episode for the plot. |
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| I just started watching this show, and while the story and setting are intriguing, I definitely feel like there's a lack of budget here. At first I thought maybe it's an artistic choice to have no shading and be more "simplistic", but there are way too many talking over still shots (sometimes the still shots are just glossary text on a screen) and more than a few times, the animation will just pause and switch to a complete still shot (in a different art style mind you) in the middle of a scene while people are talking. I dunno if it's supposed to be artistic but it feels like a budget-saving tactic to me >_> Also like, these still illustrations are gorgeous!!?  it makes me wish the show was like this instead. But then I started wondering why these stills are in such a different art style than the rest of the show... and now I'm wondering if they're illustrations from the light novel (LNs usually have occasional illustrations for important scenes)? |
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Reply to womanrspector
Bacon24 said:
budgets are not released for most anime so how do you know? and scheduling, staff, environment, etc. is more important
truth999 said:
it does man what you think they could have a huge budget and need to make budget cuts?
it does man what you think they could have a huge budget and need to make budget cuts?
budgets are not released for most anime so how do you know? and scheduling, staff, environment, etc. is more important
Hey what drives quick schedules and small staff? Could it be… budget?
| @womanrspector Money can control these aspects, but it can't outright fix shit schedules by just throwing bucks at it, specially when the problem runs deeper than just that. Issues such as a lack of professional training, veterans being stretched amongst the increasing number of series being made every season, the buttload of outsourcing needed and without proper communication between both parties leading to the original intent being lost/butchered, the likes. |
| For me, it's good enough. |
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