| Even if it's a knock off, it sure was much better than Akudama Drive lol |
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| The shit seriously wasted a good chunk of my time. Looking at the score, I initially thought it would be somewhat decent, but it turned out to be the same garbage as other trigger-made anime (except Little Witch Academia). |
| Nah, absolutely not. The exact opposite maybe, but definitely not what you said. The world of Cyberpunk is much older, I believe it was a board game originally... Akudama Drive's sci-fi mystery was so bad, even one of the characters called it cliché. The ending of Cyberpunk was much better, it had a message, that wasn't so in your face. I really just cringed at the "ordinary person" nonsense at the end of Akudama drive. And calling out Cyberpunk for too much gore while praising Akudama Drive is a joke. |
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DoctorBryce said: ZEALAEQUIN702 said: Was just wondering if it was just me; glad I wasn't tripping; lol. Wasn't fond of akudama drive either but the ending gave it kinda more satisfying ending like it wasn't wasted watch. Cyber punk was just flat bad to me. Felt like they tried to cover up all the boring parts with cussing and the action parts just blood/gore to give it a "controversial" edge. everyone hyped it so much I finally cracked to watch it. The dub was so bad half way through I had to go to japanese voice acting. That’s your fault for trying to watch dub in the first place you should know sub is always superior by now XD This is a Cyberpunk anime... Adam Smasher for one got the same voice actor as he had in the game... ImmaBigToy said: sujalbaral_04 said: unrelated but the way everyone was hyping it like it's the best thing ever made me watch it and i found it average. it was neither good nor bad, just enjoyable. don't know whether it was a rip off of akuma drive or not because i haven't seen that show. Buggin the show was definitely amazing especially since it came from such a god awful game The issues with the game were the bugs, and the really basic gameplay. Neither which is an issue for an anime... Unless you count David's driving, that's totally authentic to the game. DarkHomieC said: People really disrespecting Akudama Drive? Akudama Drive is definitely better story wise than Edgerunners, But Edgerunners is definitely better when it comes to music (because it’s Cyberpunk 2077 music). They both are really good and enjoyable and do really good good job with the theme, but Akudama Drive is better. I mean, the show was kind of bad... While it was just a heist show I enjoyed it, but then went downhill really fast after that. |
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| I would say you're going a bit to far with it. while I also think they are very similar and akudama drive is the better show overall, cyberpunk did do enough to not be a knock off and some aspects of it are better than akudama drive. it's characters are less developed, but they have better characterization and chemistry. the pacing is worse but it has much better music and is even more stylish. again, I think akudama drive is above it. it's social commentary is much more well put together, it's world building is on a completely different level and is the one that did a lot of the things you see in edge runners first. but still, calling cyberpunk a bad copy is also extremely unfair. |
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revysbeanie said: learn how to criticize shows.akudama drive was mid at best, edgerunners revived a whole genre, dont diss edgerunners with that comparison shit xd mid is not a valid or valuable criticism. explain why akudama drive is "mid" and I will tell you why you are wrong. |
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Mirai said: what makes it better?Even if it's a knock off, it sure was much better than Akudama Drive lol the production? I mean sure but akudama drive is not far behind it the characters? you could argue it, but they are undeniably the exact same type. the world building? it's not even close, akudama drive is by far the better one. which to be fair makes sense, since unlike edgerunners, akudama drive wasn't part of a bigger franchise and needed to fully flesh out it's world the pacing? I mean this was edge runners biggest downfall so I don't even need to explain then what exactly makes it much better? I understand what makes it great. I have seen a lot of positive (and negative) reviews for both shows. and I genuinely don't understand what gives edge runners the not even slightly better, but much better card. |
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monkeydpic said: this is braindeadtf is akudama drive💀 get that out of here and never compare them ever again cyberpunk>>>>> and I don't have to watch the other thing if someone said my favorite show is a worse copy of "X", I would watch it the first chance I get instead of denying it and pretending like that's impossible |
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thehornedrat said: not really.You know this is a troll thread when the cyberpunk work by Mike Pondsmith that the anime is based on came before Akudama Drive, which actually is the blatant copy of Cyberpunk. Get you sci-fi literature right OP. In any case, AD sounds like a series I can and totally enjoy, and will check it out with much thanks! Heck, it can even fit right into the Cyberpunk 2077 world....and vice versa actually. Thanks for the suggestion OP...since that was your original intent 🤫 if there is one thing different between the 2 shows is their worlds. the similarities are all edge runner only stuff. they don't really have that much to do with the game. |
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| Cyberpunck genre's fans usually prefer gore and robot titties over than actual genre fascination. This genre is plagued by gratification stuff due to low level execution for centuries (mostly because low budget fantasy or scifi creator uses this genre to dump their discount show and movie in this genre which is easier and cheaper to recreate with added gratification and shock effect to substitute for stories). So most fans are programmed and grew up to think and preferred those things as big part of this genre. |
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|JaniSIr said: 1. their similarities are on the plot of edge runners, not the world of cyberpunk. their worlds are completely different.Nah, absolutely not. The exact opposite maybe, but definitely not what you said. The world of Cyberpunk is much older, I believe it was a board game originally... Akudama Drive's sci-fi mystery was so bad, even one of the characters called it cliché. The ending of Cyberpunk was much better, it had a message, that wasn't so in your face. I really just cringed at the "ordinary person" nonsense at the end of Akudama drive. And calling out Cyberpunk for too much gore while praising Akudama Drive is a joke. 2. i assume by sci-fi mystery you mean the matrix thing, and to that I say... yes it was cliché, but are you really going to pretend like that was the second much cooler reveal in that same episode didn't exist? the bunny and shark twist is mind blowing. 3. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about with the ending. explain it to me and say what the message was, and If you do it right I'll fully except all your points. 4. you cringed at a normal person becoming a criminal after spending the entire season with criminals....? WHAT? 5. nah, the gore in both are great. if anything cyberpunk is better here because I went through hell to find an uncensored version of akudama drive. and that's besides the fact that the violence, or everything in general is way more stylish in edge runners, even though akudama drive was already pretty damn stylish. |
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Apolygon2 said: Tbh I didn't even remember those two, until you brought them up.2. i assume by sci-fi mystery you mean the matrix thing, and to that I say... yes it was cliché, but are you really going to pretend like that was the second much cooler reveal in that same episode didn't exist? the bunny and shark twist is mind blowing. Apolygon2 said: They are both hyperviolent dystopian futuristic worlds, where being a mercenary is bad for your health.1. their similarities are on the plot of edge runners, not the world of cyberpunk. their worlds are completely different. I'd assume "regular people getting caught up in nonsense" to be a huge cliché in this setting. Apolygon2 said: Something about ordinary people being able to do great things, good or bad, without needing to be born special, in the right circumstances.3. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about with the ending. explain it to me and say what the message was, and If you do it right I'll fully except all your points. You know, she became a criminal then a revolutionary over trying to return 500 yen a guy dropped. Apolygon2 said: Well, how she got wound up in this whole mess in episode 1 was pretty stupid... Kind of the point, but still.4. you cringed at a normal person becoming a criminal after spending the entire season with criminals....? WHAT? But what I'm specifically referring to is that TV broadcast where she introduced herself as "Ordinary Person" and even her MAL listing says that's her name, despite being called Swindler for most of the show. Apolygon2 said: That comment was just specifically pointing out the double standard in OP's comment, when he accused Cyberpunk of being shock value over substance.5. nah, the gore in both are great. if anything cyberpunk is better here because I went through hell to find an uncensored version of akudama drive. and that's besides the fact that the violence, or everything in general is way more stylish in edge runners, even though akudama drive was already pretty damn stylish. Visually I wasn't a fan of Akudama drive, much of it relies on CG, and the character design is a bit weird, but that's just nitpicking. It's not that ugly, but kinda fell into the uncanny valley. Cyberpunk is certainly top tier though. |
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Apolygon2 said: the ending of akudama drive was utter dogshitMirai said: what makes it better?Even if it's a knock off, it sure was much better than Akudama Drive lol the production? I mean sure but akudama drive is not far behind it the characters? you could argue it, but they are undeniably the exact same type. the world building? it's not even close, akudama drive is by far the better one. which to be fair makes sense, since unlike edgerunners, akudama drive wasn't part of a bigger franchise and needed to fully flesh out it's world the pacing? I mean this was edge runners biggest downfall so I don't even need to explain then what exactly makes it much better? I understand what makes it great. I have seen a lot of positive (and negative) reviews for both shows. and I genuinely don't understand what gives edge runners the not even slightly better, but much better card. |
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Mirai said: that really doesn't tell me anything...Apolygon2 said: the ending of akudama drive was utter dogshitwhat makes it better? the production? I mean sure but akudama drive is not far behind it the characters? you could argue it, but they are undeniably the exact same type. the world building? it's not even close, akudama drive is by far the better one. which to be fair makes sense, since unlike edgerunners, akudama drive wasn't part of a bigger franchise and needed to fully flesh out it's world the pacing? I mean this was edge runners biggest downfall so I don't even need to explain then what exactly makes it much better? I understand what makes it great. I have seen a lot of positive (and negative) reviews for both shows. and I genuinely don't understand what gives edge runners the not even slightly better, but much better card. explain why |
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JaniSIr said: Apolygon2 said: Tbh I didn't even remember those two, until you brought them up.2. i assume by sci-fi mystery you mean the matrix thing, and to that I say... yes it was cliché, but are you really going to pretend like that was the second much cooler reveal in that same episode didn't exist? the bunny and shark twist is mind blowing. Apolygon2 said: They are both hyperviolent dystopian futuristic worlds, where being a mercenary is bad for your health.1. their similarities are on the plot of edge runners, not the world of cyberpunk. their worlds are completely different. I'd assume "regular people getting caught up in nonsense" to be a huge cliché in this setting. Apolygon2 said: Something about ordinary people being able to do great things, good or bad, without needing to be born special, in the right circumstances.3. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about with the ending. explain it to me and say what the message was, and If you do it right I'll fully except all your points. You know, she became a criminal then a revolutionary over trying to return 500 yen a guy dropped. Apolygon2 said: Well, how she got wound up in this whole mess in episode 1 was pretty stupid... Kind of the point, but still.4. you cringed at a normal person becoming a criminal after spending the entire season with criminals....? WHAT? But what I'm specifically referring to is that TV broadcast where she introduced herself as "Ordinary Person" and even her MAL listing says that's her name, despite being called Swindler for most of the show. Apolygon2 said: That comment was just specifically pointing out the double standard in OP's comment, when he accused Cyberpunk of being shock value over substance.5. nah, the gore in both are great. if anything cyberpunk is better here because I went through hell to find an uncensored version of akudama drive. and that's besides the fact that the violence, or everything in general is way more stylish in edge runners, even though akudama drive was already pretty damn stylish. Visually I wasn't a fan of Akudama drive, much of it relies on CG, and the character design is a bit weird, but that's just nitpicking. It's not that ugly, but kinda fell into the uncanny valley. Cyberpunk is certainly top tier though. _ you didn't remember those 2? WHAT? those 2 were like one of the most important elements in the story, and the main reason for why I absolutely adore the world and ending of akudama drive. _ the similarities are a lot more than that: both are about a regular guy who joins a group of criminals. which you can say is a cliché, but I really don't think it is. name 3 other shows/movies with a normal guy joining a group of criminals in a cyberpunk setting, and I will except that it's cliché, but I don't think you can. both are over the top action shows with tons of gore and cool factor fight scenes. both have mid point climax that kills brawn of the team, which results in a tonal shift for the rest of the series. both kill of all the characters by the end, with only 2 of them escaping at the end, and the main character sacrifices himself/herself to make it happen. _ you got the message very wrong. that's actually a lot closer to what edge runners was trying to say. there are a few answers that I would have excepted but you gave me none of them. the show has a lot of angles, you could have said it's a commentary on the problem with an overcontrolling govern system. that whole shark and bunny thing was a massive, massive part of this, so I'm not surprised you both missed this and forgot about those guys. there are other smaller messages, like how small acts can result in massive consequences, but those are more semi-explored themes, than they are messages. the one I mentioned is the only big one. _ how is that cringe. that's the whole point. she started as an ordinary person, but lied save herself by calling herself swindler. and at the end she called herself an ordinary person, to start a riot. Since I'm near certain that you missed this let me explain. it wasn't just a random live cam that resulted in the riot. she also used the ball hacker gave her to hack shark and bunny, which is basically one of those propaganda brainwashing tv programs to anger the crowd even further more. but that's not all, the earlier massacre of the regular folks that executioners did was also a massive part of it. which also was partly due to swindlers original message. there were so many factors that went into that stunt working, and it breaks my heart to hear someone say it's cringe because she call herself an ordinary person. |
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Apolygon2 said: Watched that over a year ago, it happens ¯\_(ツ)_/¯those 2 were like one of the most important elements in the story, and the main reason for why I absolutely adore the world and ending of akudama drive. Apolygon2 said: Tbh I don't think I could tell you 3 Cyberpunk IPs off the top of my head.both are about a regular guy who joins a group of criminals. which you can say is a cliché, but I really don't think it is. name 3 other shows/movies with a normal guy joining a group of criminals in a cyberpunk setting, and I will except that it's cliché, but I don't think you can. But if that counts Cyberpunk 2077 has V start out as one of 3 regular origins, becomes a merc, gets a job that goes sideways, with her friend dying, and then Keanu Reeves is implanted in her head, and then the tone goes from trying to become a legend, to existential dread. Apolygon2 said: If "dystopian society is bad" and "young heroine abolishes the system" is the message you want to focus on, then it's basically just Hunger Games, or like half of the young adult genre... _ you I got the message very wrong. that's actually a lot closer to what edge runners was trying to say. there are a few answers that I would have excepted but you gave me none of them. the show has a lot of angles, you could have said it's a commentary on the problem with an overcontrolling govern system. that whole shark and bunny thing was a massive, massive part of this, so I'm not surprised you both missed this and forgot about those guys. there are other smaller messages, like how small acts can result in massive consequences, but those are more semi-explored themes, than they are messages. the one I mentioned is the only big one. I just took it as a set piece, like obviously dystopian is bad, it's literally part of the definition of dystopian. Apolygon2 said: It's too on the nose. And the whole scene was trying too hard to be a tear jerker, it didn't work._ how is that cringe. that's the whole point. she started as an ordinary person, but lied save herself by calling herself swindler. and at the end she called herself an ordinary person, to start a riot. Also this one was after the show already pulled the "very dramatic hair cutting" cliché, and the weird matrix thing plot twist, that even the characters got upset about. |
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