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Mar 18, 2008 11:37 PM
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well that was depressing, suppose something like this had to happen about now tho.

I wonder what will make kirino decide not to disown those two?
Mar 19, 2008 12:32 AM
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Good episode.

Everyone going through there own hardships became depressing especially Tama.
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Mar 19, 2008 1:54 AM
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Yeah, everyone definitelly is definitely having a hard time. I expected Tama-chan to take defeat especially hard, but I didn't think she would go so far as quitting the club. I also wonder what Kirino is going to decide, unless she manages to find a way around it, it's really a lose-or-lose situation.
Mar 19, 2008 8:01 AM
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I don't watch the show for the drama, but this was a very well done episode (except Miyamiya's segment, she doesn't understand why she can't beat someone who has probably been training their whole life after training for a week straight, there sure is a flaw in that that, but I really just don't like her). I also don't understand Kirino's conflict, is it because she is too nice, is that why she has second thoughts about disowning those douchebags? Nice music at the end.
Mar 19, 2008 1:09 PM
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Hmm it was ok. I didn't really like Miyamiya's part because it just seemed plainfully obvious as to why she lost in the first place. Tama quitting suprised me quite a bit. Never would have realized she would drop out first. I was to expect it from Miyamiya first.

Mar 19, 2008 1:15 PM
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I've never heard of this :')
Mar 19, 2008 3:22 PM
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Hmm it was ok. I didn't really like Miyamiya's part because it just seemed plainfully obvious as to why she lost in the first place. Tama quitting suprised me quite a bit. Never would have realized she would drop out first. I was to expect it from Miyamiya first.

Miya-Miya is just facing the harshness of experience hardship and not reaping any rewards (that she can see in any case).

Mar 19, 2008 3:30 PM
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The drama doesn't fit in this series... I wouldn't even have a second thought about that two jerks, they are causing nothing than problems...

Can't wait how it will turn out


Mar 19, 2008 5:22 PM
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I don't watch the show for the drama, but this was a very well done episode.


Yea, It's hard to choose "I loved it", but the truth is, the writers got the point across real well that this is a pivotal point hard time for Kirino's dear club.

I'm guessing that Kirino's dilemma on the two losers is, that it's not good form (dou, karma, behavior, curtsey, etc.) to just cut someone for the club, even if they are pigs.
Mar 19, 2008 5:44 PM

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haven't watched it yet. i am trying not to read the earlier posts.
Mar 19, 2008 7:32 PM

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Tama-chan quitting the club really shocked me...


Mar 19, 2008 7:51 PM

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5 out of 5 stars for the emotional atmosphere.
Mar 19, 2008 8:32 PM
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lol i thought this anime have only 24 episode i'm glad i was wrong. Is not that of a shock that Tama-chan decided to quit. She is just going to take a break and during the break she will learn to accept her defeat and learn the fact that no one is unbeatable. Is almost like every other shounen anime when the main character got over confident that will lead them to a downfall and comes back stronger and better. then she can have a rematch with Rin again maybe this time Tama-chan will win with her new personality.
Mar 19, 2008 9:12 PM

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Tama-chan quitting the club really shocked me...

I figured something like this would happen since she faced and lost for the first time against someone her own age. Not to mention she lost in a stupid way.

She will be back though. She just needs to overcome her weakness of that one move her mom used and her feelings about always having to win.
Mar 20, 2008 1:31 AM

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Trineas said:
The drama doesn't fit in this series... I wouldn't even have a second thought about that two jerks, they are causing nothing than problems...

Can't wait how it will turn out


I feel the same way....

Also Tama quiting was weird, she is such a sore loser.... After only losing one fight, you quit the club? this is weird, she is messed up!
Mar 20, 2008 9:10 AM
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Friendlysoul said:
Trineas said:
The drama doesn't fit in this series... I wouldn't even have a second thought about that two jerks, they are causing nothing than problems...

Can't wait how it will turn out


I feel the same way....

Also Tama quiting was weird, she is such a sore loser.... After only losing one fight, you quit the club? this is weird, she is messed up!
No, she quitted Kendo as a whole because she is confused, and as a suggestion of his father. It's less aboiut being a sore loser and more about getting back her concentration and some piece of mind. She needs to find out what truly is she strives to achieve by practicing Kendo. That's how I see it.

Mar 20, 2008 9:37 AM
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Cool episode. MiyaMiya's situation is different from the rest. She has never tasted victory in any of her matches even after practicing as much as the others. She's just sick of it and I guess what she told Dan-Kun wasn't just about Carrie, but about all her opponents not being beatable. That's what I got from it anyway.

Tama quitting makes for some good drama. The series kind of needed that. I didn't want it to be 100% comedy. Another good part about the series was when Kirino had to check up on her mom. That made for some interesting consequences.
Mar 20, 2008 1:50 PM

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damn, everything is going downhill after the loss. I expected it, but not to this degree.
Mar 20, 2008 1:58 PM

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Wow everything sucks right now.


Mar 21, 2008 6:19 PM
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Hmmm a little bit of darkness in Bamboo Blade is quite interesting too ;)

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Mar 22, 2008 12:14 AM

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while miya miya isnt exactly my favorite character, its easy to see her point of view here
after all, this was pretty much the first time she was really excited about kendo.... but despite all her hard work she still fell flat on face and dragged the rest of the club down with her, once again

but yeah, overall a really sad episode... it kinda hurt to see tama turning back into her old unfriendly self and to see just about everything going wrong for kojiro
Mar 22, 2008 1:16 PM

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ok episode - tama taking such a decision. ah well she will have to learn that losing isn't so bad. i just hope that she learns from her break from kendo.
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I hope they can get back on their feet soon.

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Mar 30, 2008 12:25 AM

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I didn;t really like the fact that Tama decided to quit entirely, and cut ties with all her friends just because she lost. But then again, she hasnt really had any friends other than yuuji before this so i guess she wouldnt know that friends stick together even if they're not "of use" to each other?
Apr 4, 2008 12:26 AM
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Wow, That was gloomy.
Apr 13, 2008 8:10 AM

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Seeing Kirino stumble around after finding the resignation letter... damn this episode was just depressing :(

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May 4, 2008 4:58 AM

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Pretty good episode, I was a bit surprised that it was mainly drama.
Can't believe Tama-chan quit Kendo T_T
Oh well, she'll eventually be back =P
Jun 27, 2008 1:15 AM

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Nuuuuu!!!! Tama-chan QUIT!!

This is getting intense.... 3 eps left T~T



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Sep 25, 2008 12:23 AM

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The added drama and conflicting emotions don't really fit with the series. Tama-chan quit, doesn't she love kendo?
Nov 28, 2008 3:30 PM

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Poor Tama, it sure didn't take much convincing from her dad to make her quite. :*(
Oct 16, 2009 3:41 PM

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What the fuck was this? This wasn't comedy... this wasn't even fun to watch... When did this turn into a half-assed soap opera?
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Jan 17, 2010 1:38 AM

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Sad episode, I wonder why Yuuji made that stance against Tama.

Its been 220days, can anyone tell me what happen to the TWO guys
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This is my favorite episode so far. I really loved all the emotional drama in this episode. This is just what the show needed after all of the lighthearted moments earlier in the series. What I liked most was seeing another dimension to Kirino. You're so used to her being so energetic and positive all the time and in this episode you finally see a side of her that is scared and conflicted about what to do.

I thought that those two boys would resign when I saw that letter but I never thought that it would be Tama. I am really looking forward to the next episode!
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Poor Tama, it sure didn't take much convincing from her dad to make her quite. :*(


I don't think her dad told her to quit. He just suggested that she take a break for a while, because he felt that she wasn't happy while practicing kendo at that point.
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I'm guessing that Kirino's dilemma on the two losers is, that it's not good form (dou, karma, behavior, curtsey, etc.) to just cut someone for the club, even if they are pigs.

And I believe someone said "Kendo begins and ends with courtesy". Might have been Tamaki's dad.

I still can't quite wrap my head around the conflict, though. Kirino seems to be in the position of lying about a mere technicality. Toyama and Iwase literally left the club's building the day Tamaki beat Toyama and they've never come back (and now they can't come back because they've been suspended). They can't really said to be part of the club in that case, can they?

Kirino said it didn't feel right to pretend that they had never been part of the club, but isn't all she needs to lie about that they formally resigned at that time they left and never returned?

That scene in an earlier episode where Yuji asked those two to come to the tournament and was rudely rebuffed was laying groundwork for this conflict. It's nice to see this series being able to plan ahead like that. There was even an eyecatch where Kirino asked the audience "Where are Toyama and Iwase?"
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This was a really stupid episode...

It's a no-brainer to disown the two assholes, who
a) Never attended practise, activities or ANY sessions and tournaments.
b) Bullied and beat up people.
c) Were complete jerks.

And Miyazaki is an annoying character - it's obvious why she lost.

This drama feels horribly contrived and out of place.
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This was a really stupid episode...

It's a no-brainer to disown the two assholes, who
a) Never attended practise, activities or ANY sessions and tournaments.
b) Bullied and beat up people.
c) Were complete jerks.

This drama feels horribly contrived and out of place.


Yeah, why even think about those 2 who never even participated in club activities? Its a simple decision to "lie" saying they were not part of the club. Sheesh.
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Poor Tama-chan, I can't believe she would just suddenly quite :/ I really hope she gets back to normal!
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A dark cloud looms over this anime...

  • Yuuji will finally his chance to shine! Do your stuff, Mr. Generic!
  • Asshole #1 & Asshole #2 did say they quit to Yuuji. This'll be interesting. >:) Don't worry about it too much, Kirino. ;_;
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Liked this ep. It was really nice to witness Tama's first loss. Losing is an inevitable part of life no matter how good one is at anything. Okay, to be the winner all the time is great and all but what is even greater and harder is to be able to overcome it and go on without losing heart. So, yeah, nice theme there.
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Like everyone else, I don't get Kirino's dilemma. Also, Tama quitting was a huge over-reaction, though I might be biased because I've never liked her as much as other team members. The only one I really get is Miya-miya. Sure, it was obvious why she lost, but she's the only one who hasn't scored a real victory yet despite trying so hard and I understand that she's frustrated right now.
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Pretty depressing episode, not exactly the kind of episode I'm in the mood for when watching Bamboo Blade. But they should definitely throw those two guys out. First of all, they told Yuuji that they quit already when he asked them. And second of all the shit they pulled this time is reason enough to throw them out of the kendo team.
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Ok, this was another great episode. The drawn-out moments of silence and heavy atmosphere made me think of NGE, although it's probably just this being an old-school animation. There's a lot going on here and while I respect their opinion, some people are giving way too little credit to its importance.


First, about Miya-Miya, I think that he put it very well:
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Miya-Miya is just facing the harshness of experience hardship and not reaping any rewards (that she can see in any case).
You see, what Miya-Miya is very relevant to sports, she puts in a lot of effort, but she's not even close to people born with talent for Kendo, let alone monsters like Tama. Yes, she has practiced for just a little while at this point, but it's important to remember that she generally didn't need to put in much effort to succeed in life up to this point. Being adored by most people around her simply for being born with good looks really skews her perspective of her place in the world.
And even if she was just an average girl/boy, putting in so much effort for seemingly no results is bound to be disheartening for a lot of people.


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I don't think her dad told her to quit. He just suggested that she take a break for a while, because he felt that she wasn't happy while practicing kendo at that point.
A lot of people practicing Kendo(probably true for other sports, I'm simply speaking from experience here) sooner or later come to the point where they are really not sure if they wish to keep doing Kendo. A lot of people born in families of Kendo practitioners, as well as talented people in general, actually do quit at this point. Some would say that in Miya-Miya's case it's natural to give up, since she can never fill the gap created by "talent". But Tama is a proof that even those born with talent are prone to give up - meaning that talent itself doesn't make an activity more valuable to the person. They(both Miya-Miya- and Tama-type of people) need to perceive the real value of a pursuit, if it's got one for them, to devote themselves to it.


As for Kirino's decision - although this show often uses Kendo as simply a gimmick, it's important to understand the (at least supposed) purpose of modern Kendo. It's supposed to make people better members of society and the world in general. Given this, Kirino's turmoil is natural to someone who sees beyond "winning and losing", like Miya-Miya and Tama. This is actually a huge difference to the roots of Kendo, the Samurai culture, where subterfuge was often employed for pragmatic gains, despite outwardly dignified appearances (just think of the ninja's role in that period). Even if the club remains standing, Kirino wouldn't be a better Kendo practitioner, nor a better member of society.


That's not to say that I agree with every character's attitude this episode, but it would be nice to not oversimplify the one time this show takes itself seriously, even if most people are here for goofy comedy.
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A drama filled episode this time round. I had a good laugh at how everything drama related happened at the exact same time.

Jan 25, 2023 4:48 PM
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I could feel every character's own way of coping with the loss as the team spirals into disbandment. Yep, this is the march to the show's finale!

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