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Apr 26, 2019 9:43 PM

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5/5 cause I got to watch Asuka suffer. Fuck her
May 3, 2019 4:40 AM

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Remembering everything she had gone through in her childhood made Asuka's mind restless in addition to her severe inferiority complex towards Rei, Shinji, and pretty much everyone for doing things that she wasn't able to do. The last thing she needed was a giant ray of light from space to rape every inch of her mind, that's for sure.

If the escalator scene had the most awkward vibe before this, the elevator scene was twice as awkward. Who knew that a full minute of stills with some blinks thrown in would feel so tense.

They threw one of their most valuable weapons into space to save Unit 02 and that must've been quite a setback for them. I hope that they won't punish Asuka too harshly for acting reckless like that.








May 9, 2019 4:09 PM
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This epsidie is one of my favourite because it explains Asuka’s story. asuka was lonely. she felt rejected by everyone when she was growing up so she has come to need praise and attention. any sort of attention sexual too(especially from Kaji). and now everyone is starting to depend on her she’s cracking under pressure. she starts to have a mental breakdown becuase she is not succeeding and she starts to come back to the way she was when she was growing up. lonely and rejected by everyone.
May 17, 2019 9:27 AM
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Ah, what a severe inferiority complex, poor Asuka... Well, she needs positive attention, she seeks superiority. Good episode.
Jun 24, 2019 4:53 AM

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Once again, I'm reminded of how awful this episode is. In a good way, I mean; not quality-wise.
Jul 10, 2019 12:50 AM
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As much as I don't like Asuka, this is a great episode explaining her past and character. I had to watch it twice and paused at many points just to catch everything on the screen. But once again, I want to know how the pilots were picked. It can't be random.
Jul 10, 2019 3:45 PM

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@tuanguyen It's supposedly decided by the "Marduk Council" that gathers them in a certain class (said earlier).

You can, based on Shinji and Rei's inner views (inside units 1 or 0) infere some things. Plus, you already got past the révélation about what's in Eva-01.
They're picked based on that. (be it Shinji, Rei, Asuka, Tôji...)


August 23, 2019
Martin_Taylor said:

What the hell was that Hallelujah Angel attack?
Obviously a mind contact (followed by an exploration).


September 16, 2019:
@SomaHeir Based on the duration of the last episode you watched, it is indeed the Director's Cut. (the ep.21-24 are extended in this montage)
Didn't you appreciate how the mind visit allows us to know how Asuka evolved into this "brat"?


April 7, 2020
@-EnvyV2- Out of curiosity, did you mean Asuka's mental attack by "bitching" or her behaviour up to the "battle"?

June 30, 2021
@yi0309 We call that mise-en-scène in the land of cinéma.
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Jul 30, 2019 9:57 PM

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-Long elevator scene is long

-Asuka's mind became pudding.

-Nein.Tod.Nein.Tod.Nein.Tod
Jul 31, 2019 12:00 PM
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Ffs askua stop being a self centered bitch and grow up . Your pointless hate is unwarranted if you wanted attention and not be lonely then you should have acted differently and not close everyone off and not letting anyone in
Aug 22, 2019 5:18 AM
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The Asuka MF episode. It still so hard to watch. All her misplaced pride and inmaturity contribute to seeing her come crashing down in this episode. Tough to watch.

The genius of Evangelion is in it's directing. Even when they're cutting corners on animation they find a solution to give it some style. The tenseness of that elevator trip with Asuka and Rei is inimitable.
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Aug 22, 2019 9:23 AM

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Psychological part is here. Now I get it, Asuka is constantly on her period while in puberty. That's why she so annoying. Yeah and all that fucked up childhood thing. Similar to Shinji, actually.

What the hell was that Hallelujah Angel attack?
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Sep 15, 2019 11:56 PM

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It was good episode, but it was annoying to constantly hear Asuka moan at every situation.

"I'm Asuka Langley Sohryu."

"Nice to meet you."

"What Are you, Stupid? (Anta Baka?)"

"This is my chance!"

"So look at me!!"

Reminds me of women who always blame everyone, but themselves for their misfortunes.

Still, that Angel that can fuck your psychological levels just with a shining beam is OP!

Imagine what it could do if it can spread it to Non-Eva related machines. It would have screwed everyone at NERV.

Also, that Elevator scene. Talk about awkward XD

Since I'm watching this in BD. I'm guessing these are the director's cut.

Gonna be interesting how these ends in 4 episodes. Will they retrieve Spear of Longinus despite already going further from the Earth's location.

Rei really stole the show!! Glad she is getting a good amount of cutscenes!

Onto the last 4 episodes!

Oct 4, 2019 6:30 PM
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Mind rape,the hallelujah chorus sure added to the eeriness of it.

Asuka's facade broken,Eva pilot can't be mentally stable so knew something was up with her.

"What are you doing there?! You won't do anything! You won't help me! You won't even hold me!" Asuka has feelings for Shinji and Shinji is too dense to notice.


Too dense to notice? How's he supposed to notice anything when she constantly acts like a stuck up, self absorbed little bitch and treats him like shit?
Oct 6, 2019 7:57 AM

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I get the feeling whoever speaks German will be laughing really hard at Asuka's German xD

Hallelujah, very approriate song for the occasion xD

"Sohryu Asuka Langley desu, yoroshiku. Anta Baka?? Chansu~ Dakara atashi o mite" x5
And you get to save some budget :P

Asuka is just being a baby at this point
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Nov 9, 2019 8:26 AM

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That felt like the longest fucking episode. If Asuka is so fed up with everything she could have just taken a page from her mother's book. Maybe I wouldn't have had to sit through the same animation looped like 6 times.
Dec 21, 2019 10:04 AM
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I'm surprised that ikari still has some secrets left. Now I can't blame Asuka for being a major tsun. Her childhood was so tough and she even decided not to cry ever again. It's like she's always on the high. And whatever people say, I don't blame Shinji really. He's like this only because of his dad. But still he's trying his best, being compassionate and all.
But living life like Rei, like an emotionless doll would probably be the easiest way to deal with their situation. ;_;



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Apr 6, 2020 12:01 PM

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Ngl keeping up with Asuka bitching for 15 minutes was hard, holy... so annoying...

@Rei_III let me correct that... keeping up with all the "i hate you" repeats, and yes her mental breakdown was annoying.
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Apr 8, 2020 8:03 PM

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So pretty much EVERYONE associated with this project is damaged goods?

There ain't anyone with both oars in the water.

And they have to save the world...great.

:D
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May 12, 2020 6:40 PM
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I could take this thing seriously... OR just laugh at the fact that they decided to add christian music
Jul 8, 2020 10:38 PM
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that was fucking insane i dont know if i will ever recover from that jesus.....
Jul 18, 2020 5:19 PM

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(original version)

they never said what happened to toji??? after the dummy plug unit 01 attacked his eva????

they are using biological words, mitosis, necrosis, apoptosis, to describe the evas now, so they are obviously living beings. how can anyone still choose to work at nerv after seeing how crazy things are over there. it's Messed Up dudes

and what, shinji is just back to normal now? the guy literally vanished from this plane of reality and was reborn and that's it? what happened to the psychological explorations this show was doing? i loved that stuff. but nope they just suit him up again and done?

also nothing about kaji's death either? people in this show sure love ignoring traumatic events, no wonder they are all repressed as heck

rei and asuka were standing in the lift in silence for FIFTY SECONDS then rei started speaking. FIFTY

poor asuka though. trying so hard to be independent and do everything herself, when will she accept that needing help is not a sign of weakness

and now what is the lance of longinus?? other than it holding adam to the cross
Sep 23, 2020 2:38 PM

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(director's cut)

i do love asuka's character, and i love all the additional scenes we got in this episode!! especially the bathroom scene. i like seeing the vulnerability she tries so hard to hide behind her loud mouth and confidence, but underneath it all she's just like shinji, she wants attention of any sort, whether it is praise for piloting her eva, sexual attention, etc

ASUKA ASKING THE REAL QUESTIONS THANK YOU how is shinji apparently back to normal after literally dematerialising for over a month???????

and this time the elevator scene didn't feel as long?? maybe because i knew it was coming? but all i felt was just a rising tension that exploded when rei finally spoke, it seemed a lot more effective this time round

when rei pulled the lance of longinus (what even is that thing) out of adam and he bulged and grew legs..... kinda creepy......

but man everyone in this show is so messed up, nobody is free from mummy and daddy issues lol

Oct 13, 2020 1:54 PM

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What a thrilling episode, I've been waiting to see more of very deep character development and this just was a psychological beauty. Feels Asuka's development as a character finaly reached it's absolute peak . She is pretty much a helpless ,poor thing that feels like it was misunderstood this whole time and that scene with her and Rei in the elevator feels such an amazing thing to watch, where we almost get 1 minute of pure silence and already start predicting actions that will happen next.

I'l be lying if I won't say that this is one of the best Evangelion episodes out there and the director's cut version probably made it even better.
Nov 9, 2020 3:29 AM

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Asuka and Kaji.
Asuka's mom thinks the doll is her.
Dat father doctor conovo.
Soryu Kyoko Zeppelin. 1974-2005.
Misato.
Asuka sees Shinji and Rei.
Pen Pen!
Dat call. Her mom?
Dat German.
WTF is up with Asuka.
Asuka and Rei in the elevator.
Dat slap.
Kensuke.
Toji's still in the hospital.
An Angel.
Asuka launches.
LMFAO AT HALLELUJAH CHORUS!
Asuka's been defiled.
Gendo wants Rei to use the Spear of Longinus.
Dat throw.
Destroyed it.
The spear.
Dat ending.

LMAO at the Hallelujah chorus playing. Had me dying. So Asuka was on her period.
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Dec 31, 2020 8:33 AM
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Poor Asuka. I'm starting to like her.
Jan 3, 2021 9:50 PM

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They did Asuka dirty this episode, as if shit wasn't hitting the fan enough for the main cast rn. Some slight hints about her past, and it isn't pretty. Honestly most of it answers well to why she acts like she does now, but it seems even before the attack from the angel, she was suffering from some split personality disorder of sorts. Either way the classical music sure did put salt on that wound, watching Asuka mentally break as classical music played in the back, was not something i imagined myself doing on a Sunday night.

The angels are starting to get pretty advanced with each one that appears. Orbital attacks that shoot rays that enter the targets mind, i wonder if there will be a point where, even the Eva's can't keep up.

Damn Lance of Longinus sure is one hell of a name for what appears to be an outer space lance that can piece through A.T. Fields like foil. Seems it was also jammed in Adam, however when Rei pulled it out, Adam seemed to have, grown or expanded? Hope more gets revealed on wtf that lance is, and what happens next.
Feb 27, 2021 7:54 AM

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Jesus! All of them need to see a psychotherapist urgently!
Mar 10, 2021 9:22 PM

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Such a angry child. The scene in the elevator made me think the screen froze lol. I kinda didn't care about asukas backstory lol Wow this episode is longer then normal. Gendou being a pos as usual. So annoying still in the end.
Mar 24, 2021 2:45 PM

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I feel bad for Asuka. Also, ah yes, the one elevator scene I had been waiting for.
Mar 31, 2021 12:27 AM

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Man this show is getting weird... and creepy

Hallelujah coming on out of nowhere as Asuka's mind was "getting raped" is something I'll never forget

Every time I get a question, the next episode doesn't answer them; it creates more. I don't even know what I want to know at this point
Mar 31, 2021 1:38 AM

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GoZha said:
Man this show is getting weird... and creepy

Hallelujah coming on out of nowhere as Asuka's mind was "getting raped" is something I'll never forget

Every time I get a question, the next episode doesn't answer them; it creates more. I don't even know what I want to know at this point



In the next episode you will know asuka's backstory and her mom,it's disturbing,and maybe the relationship of yui ikari(gendo's wife) and rei ayanami,because you know....
Mar 31, 2021 2:07 AM

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Kytren said:
GoZha said:
Man this show is getting weird... and creepy

Hallelujah coming on out of nowhere as Asuka's mind was "getting raped" is something I'll never forget

Every time I get a question, the next episode doesn't answer them; it creates more. I don't even know what I want to know at this point



In the next episode you will know asuka's backstory and her mom,it's disturbing,and maybe the relationship of yui ikari(gendo's wife) and rei ayanami,because you know....
Nope that already happened in this episode
Mar 31, 2021 2:08 AM

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GoZha said:
Kytren said:



In the next episode you will know asuka's backstory and her mom,it's disturbing,and maybe the relationship of yui ikari(gendo's wife) and rei ayanami,because you know....
Nope that already happened in this episode



Since evangelion is a hard anime and i dont want you to sink into pretentiousness,maybe you can check the spoilers on characters
May 12, 2021 8:32 AM

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5/5 cause I got to watch Asuka suffer. Fuck her


Fuck that.

Okay, so quick recap:

-Asuka has a mental breakdown in the bathroom

-The elevator scene happens

-15th Angel Arael appears in LEO

-Arael hits Unit-02 with a psychic attack, initiating the 'mindrape' scene

-Unit-00 goes down and gets the Spear of Longinus, using it to destroy Arael

-The Spear keeps going, ending up in orbit around the Moon

-The end

That's fucked up.

4/5

Jun 7, 2021 11:38 AM
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I don't know why but i always laugh when the hallelujah part starts..

Regarding Asuka yeah...as much i dislike her personality (i think she is a bitch) i know she can't really be blamed for it as Shinji can't be blamed for being what some have called "pussbag"... They are just kids whom had a terribly bad childhood and lived through many hardships


Same haha, that's why I couldn't take what happened afterwards seriously....
Jun 11, 2021 3:44 AM

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Rei slapped Shinji. Asuka slapped Rei. Now I want Shinji to slap Asuka. And please, harder
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please what was the 1 min long elevator scene-
Jul 3, 2021 11:45 AM
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Wooow. So that is the "notorious elevator scene" I've heard about. I ran into the topic a couple times before beginning my watch of the series. Always wondered what it was about. Very similar to the time when Shinji and Misato stared at each other for a full minute at the subway station. I definitely think this was NGE cutting corners due to production costs more than anything else, with the director only feigning it as a meaningful and/or awkward moment. I think it was awkward because they didn't even animate them blinking... I mean, I think Asuka did -- and she sniffed once (to add some diversity to the shot).

But yeah... certainly was awkward. I'm annoyed they cut corners but also intrigued that only NGE could pull it off. It happened to work well in a way; especially after succeeding Misato's observation of awkwardness at dinner, and Misato's doubts about the three of them living together. Awkward, awkward.

Maaan, in the two decades leading up to my watch of this show, Asuka's been everywhere where anime is discussed. She's one of the faces of anime. NGE is hailed as a classic, and I've seen people worship the Asuka character like a shrine. But up to this point, I still fail to see how she's appealing or desirable. She's not just a run-of-the-mill tsundere, she's a severely flawed character. Maybe not immoral or TOO unethical, and maybe not totally selfish -- she's definitely a human with emotions on both ends of the spectrum -- but she's ultimately not appealing enough to justify her beloved status, imo.

I mean, geez, she was annoying in the past, but in this episode (the first half mainly) she was really angsty. Regardless of her backstory or troubling past, I don't think that could ever justify taking it out on other people. NGE also doesn't give us much reason to feel bad for Asuka or sympathize with her -- she was clearly suffering when her mind was being "defiled" but why should the viewer care? Serves her right.

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"Nice to meet you, what are you stupid, cHaAaAnce, no this isn't me..."
M'kay, the director has far exceeded being creative and artsy. He's clearly cutting corners with looped animation. I know they were running out of their budget, but to do this to the series, geez.

Remember the "dancing episode" and the accompanying battle scene? Where the Evas were doing backflips and such. I feel like they blew all their budget on that episode haha. But I also miss it a lot.

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I admit, I don't really understand the part where Asuka says:
"Why do I have to go through this just because I'm a woman?!
I don't even want kids."

What? What is "this" that she has to go through? She's not pr...?
UPDATE: This is embarrassing. Might've just been a simple period. Whoops. That's male ignorance for you.

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And now, a compilation of some great quotes from this forum that resonate with me:


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Finally, and on a more positive note,
Amazing accompanying soundtrack for the angel. HALLELUJAH. HALLELUJAH. Somehow adds suspense.
The ED was pretty funKy too.
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Jul 25, 2021 11:42 PM
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4/5 because Asuka gets some depth to her and we get a bit more info on the whole Adam situation but this all seems really murky still.
Sep 25, 2021 1:05 PM
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Rei slapped Shinji. Asuka slapped Rei. Now I want Shinji to slap Asuka. And please, harder


I want Rei and Asuka to continue slapping each other. Repeatedly. Often. Hard.

I want them to leave Shinji alone.
Nov 14, 2021 8:59 PM
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I didn't mind the elevator scene. Asuka explained in a monologue just before that she hates everyone, especially Rei. Also, I found fanart of that scene where they turned Asuka into a futanari, so that made it better.

What I wasn't a fan of was how many times things looped during the breakdown scenes. "Hi, I'm Asuka Langley Sohryu." will be burned into my memory forever, and I don't know how many times that door was opened.

Overall, however, beyond those few issues, this has been the best episode so far.
Nov 18, 2021 7:06 AM

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So first, we get to see the past and mental of Shinji, and now it's Asuka. Will Rei be next? Who is she really?

I couldn't find the Asuka metal breaking down scene to be serious, not with the song playing in the background. Hallelujah. Rather funny than serious.

So this is the elevator scene I've been seeing a lot.

Also, things got so serious that they didn't add the opening.

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Nov 26, 2021 10:28 AM
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Yeah after this it doesnt go well. Though u think getting mindfucked is bad
Dec 17, 2021 1:55 PM

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Asuka sure taking shots to her ego which is there for a reason.
The doll was a great analogy to humans, rei in particular, evas, etc. Then Asuka talking to her eva like a doll as her mother talked to 'Asuka'/doll.

I began to empathize with Asuka in this. I understand why she has so much faux pride, competitiveness and jealousy covering her wounds.
A lot of this show has so much to do with relationships with parents, growing up and puberty.

Psychological warfare from an angel. She's suffering psychological pain just like her mother did.
The Hallelujah song along with the movements of the Eva was masterful.

I feel like ALL relationships and everyone's psyche can only disintegrate further from this point on.

Say whaaaa...'second impact wasn't caused by contact with an angel' ?



Jan 3, 2022 8:31 AM

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It was a very tense episode and more focused on Asuka's life story.
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Jan 13, 2022 4:33 PM

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Bruh how did I watch this and miss that Asuka was on her period and the whole time telling Shinji how mad she is cuz he isn't reciprocating her love? I feel so dumb now.
Feb 1, 2022 5:49 AM

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I still don't understand why people dislike Shinji due to his annoyance.
Asuka is like 20x more annoying.
Well, there's still 4 episodes left so, let's see...
Feb 15, 2022 8:53 AM

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The elevator scene was so long that I actually started feeling uncomfortable lol.

So is no one gonna bring up anything about Kaji? Dude literally sacrificed his life for this organization.

Asuka is in a really bad mood. And her periods make it worse I presume.

Also that bg music when the angel attacked was like some weird church choir.

I was able to pause at one of those flashy texts being displayed when Asuka was attacked and one of them said "Menarche"...

The Angel is trying to understand the human mind?!?

What even is that spear? Great episode ngl
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having to relive all of that 😬😬😬 rip asuka

i think they'll go into depth about the lance of longinus in the next episode
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