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Sep 2, 2021 2:23 AM
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I think it's kinda neat they got an Egyptian theme group in this arc.

On the other hand, there's Lyserg who is on a completely different level. Oh and I think it's pretty cool to see Iron Maiden Jeanne in the second round and she's definitely no pushover.

Sep 2, 2021 2:29 AM
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Well this was a good episode. I think they are missing one or two lines of dialogue in there, whoch were fairly important but regardless I can not justify anything less than a 5 for this ep.

I also do not understand this animation, why was ep 7 completely censored of almost all but minor traces of blood, while Jeanne gets all of the gore and frankly it's animated in a way where it somehow feels like it's even more of a bloodbath than the manga
Sep 2, 2021 2:40 AM
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Damn I Love Iron Maiden. That Shockwave of Furyoku was so good🤩
Sep 2, 2021 6:30 AM
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I'm glad they didn't wimped out the blood on Jeanne
Sep 2, 2021 7:59 AM
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Well good that Boz turned over a new leaf because of Chocolove, but their reactions are kinda funny though. Ryu having to lose his signature hair...that can only mean one thing: Lyserg.

Match 2 of the Shaman Fight: the X-Laws's top team with Lyserg, Marco and the Iron Maiden Jeanne vs. Niles Egyptian guys. But more like a 1 vs. 3 unfair fight of justice that Lyserg resorts to murder without plaintiffs, and Hao won't back out from such simple mere insults.

To see Lyserg with such regret, the Iron Maiden Jeanne won't allow such atrocity of behaviours, and shows herself full of blood and mana for stock. HOLY MOLY Jeanne's a Saint through and through, and her Oversoul Shamash IS NO JOKE. She may very well be a potential to be the next God-tier Shaman King with all that gore and bloodbath.

Now this is what you call a Shaman Fight. To. The. Death.
Sep 2, 2021 12:09 PM
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I laughed out loud when Jeanne threw herself at Lyserg. Her self-inflicted suffering seems pretty pointless, overall. A lot of evil still happens in the world. I wonder if that pointless struggle is the point of her character.

Ryu continues to be weird whenever he sees young boys and girls.
Sep 2, 2021 12:27 PM
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Yeaaaaah, Lyserg is as much of a cunt as i remember. But time for The Iron Maiden to show herself is finally here. Behold the God's Judgement!

Ren seems like a fan tho ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


pandemonium91 said:
I laughed out loud when Jeanne threw herself at Lyserg.

That was really funny :D
Sep 2, 2021 12:46 PM
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pandemonium91 said:
I laughed out loud when Jeanne threw herself at Lyserg. Her self-inflicted suffering seems pretty pointless, overall. A lot of evil still happens in the world. I wonder if that pointless struggle is the point of her character.

Ryu continues to be weird whenever he sees young boys and girls.


Jeanne threw herself at Lyserg, because he was literally about to be hit by a death curse.
Abd no, her self-inflicted suffering is not at all pointless. In Shaman King the ONLY way to increase your power is to have a near-death experience - Jeanne with her impossibly iron will spends her entire life on the brink of death. Always just mere moments away from passing away and never waking up again, but by doing so despite being almost the youngest of all participating Shamans, she has attained a god class status, and with every passing second she gets stronger
Sep 2, 2021 12:46 PM
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i usually would hate all this overpowered assassination stuff like Jeanne or Hao do, but tbh, Jeanne is probably the best character (outside of Yoh/Anna) in this anime for me

... not that it's hard, since i'm only watching this cause i liked it as a kid and i don't really know if it would even be in my top 15 seasonals lol
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Sep 2, 2021 1:36 PM

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TakafumiNaito said:
Abd no, her self-inflicted suffering is not at all pointless. In Shaman King the ONLY way to increase your power is to have a near-death experience - Jeanne with her impossibly iron will spends her entire life on the brink of death. Always just mere moments away from passing away and never waking up again, but by doing so despite being almost the youngest of all participating Shamans, she has attained a god class status, and with every passing second she gets stronger

It's pointless in the sense that her doing it doesn't decrease the amount of "evil" in the world (which she stated is her motivation), it just makes her more powerful — so it's completely self-serving, not selfless. I'm still unclear on whether she knows this or legitimately thinks that torturing herself is helping others. Tbh she seems more interesting than 99% of the characters in this show, so I don't mind.
Sep 2, 2021 1:42 PM

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Out of all the Shaman King episodes I watched this one had to be the most brutal one. This Iron Maiden Jeanne's power is no joke. Though I understand of having to kill. But doing extreme evil to fight evil will bring more problems later down the road.
Sep 2, 2021 1:43 PM
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winddevil1 said:
i usually would hate all this overpowered assassination stuff like Jeanne or Hao do, but tbh, Jeanne is probably the best character (outside of Yoh/Anna) in this anime for me

... not that it's hard, since i'm only watching this cause i liked it as a kid and i don't really know if it would even be in my top 15 seasonals lol

But there's a reason why they're so powerful... Someone already explained for Iron Maiden, you'll see about Hao.
Sep 2, 2021 2:45 PM
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I've been waiting for 20 years to see it, that's why I hate the old shaman king.
Sep 2, 2021 3:17 PM

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Hmm I don't remember if Jeanne was this bloodthirsty in the OG but I enjoyed the carnage. She has some screws loose for sure.
Sep 2, 2021 3:25 PM

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Wow, I had forgotten how brutal Jeanne's introduction was.

So nice to finally see these moments animated. I know the 2001 anime did a loose adaptation of this fight, but there are little things about that version that irk me, while this was way better.
Sep 2, 2021 7:02 PM

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Finally arrived, watching all the times in the ending was a good introduction,
to this one of the three best episodes until now.
(The other two wear Horohoro fighting to protect the bear, and The Chocolove Story).

Iron Maiden Jean and his blood rain was very good, they quit the ending to give it more time,
for she can forgive the other two opponents, but they refused to be forgiven, and have no option
to kill them using two different attacks of his over soul.

The best part that surprised me was when Iron Maiden Jean appears on the scene,
and Yoh shout it's a girl and is NAKED! XD, and Anna hits him very hard,
i laughs a lot on that (think it was original of tv, don't remember that in the manga).

If you see in details "Ponchy and Conchy" (Ren and Stimpy) where "censored" because
they were wearing diapers instead of with their limbs in the air, like them more this way.

The personality of Lyserg Diethel was changed to a psycho serial killer, it's fits him well.
(Sadly they don't change the fact that Morphy stop at the last time it will be a better
pot twist if not).

It was good when Anna say oh this is really a overpower furyouky, and she grabs his accessory.


Sep 2, 2021 7:04 PM

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Yay! Best girl has finally arrived! The original anime censored the fuck out of these scenes so this was definitely interesting to see. I love how Jeanne's voice sounds kinda pouty when those guys refuse her mercy before she kills them. And of course she looks simply amazing in this new animation. 10/10 episode.
Sep 2, 2021 9:08 PM

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Not gonna lie, I love Jeanne already. She's brutal without being edgy and I kinda empathize with her extreme sense of justice. Not to mention she's also a cutie~
Sep 2, 2021 9:30 PM

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Goddamn, Jeanne. She's really brutal, she definitely just sees the world as black and white, good and evil, nothing in between. I really like how Yoh reacts to all these things though, straight to the point. I saw that coming with Lyserg, I thought what his guardian spirit would think about him now. But, he still has doubts. Really looking forward to finding out more about Hao as well.
Sep 2, 2021 11:17 PM

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so the X-Laws believe in punitive justice (rather than restorative justice) like death penalty eh lol im sure a lot of edgy fans will love that
Sep 3, 2021 5:23 AM

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nkozic_7 said:
winddevil1 said:
i usually would hate all this overpowered assassination stuff like Jeanne or Hao do, but tbh, Jeanne is probably the best character (outside of Yoh/Anna) in this anime for me

... not that it's hard, since i'm only watching this cause i liked it as a kid and i don't really know if it would even be in my top 15 seasonals lol

But there's a reason why they're so powerful... Someone already explained for Iron Maiden, you'll see about Hao.


i know they explained her pain and how she levels up (i didn't think about it while watching the episode, but it made it more interesting)... i mean she (and Lyserg) even gave them a chance to leave but they were stupid

but that doesn't change the fact that i usually don't like those super op characters, unless it's for fun (like the demon lords and stuff like that, where they usually don't even kill anyone), because in games (like LOL), i don't like getting one shot by an enemy without any chance of defending myself :D
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Sep 3, 2021 6:14 AM
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god damn every time they switch to Marco, i just love the man voice so much.
Nakamura Yuuichi voice so EPIC!

Okay Iron Maiden Jeanne, that was brutal AF.
no wonder she sounds so familiar, it's Hanyu from Higurashi.
Sep 3, 2021 12:26 PM
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Holy shit! What a violent episode! So much blood and deaths! Jeanne is best girl!
Sep 3, 2021 1:42 PM
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winddevil1 said:
nkozic_7 said:

But there's a reason why they're so powerful... Someone already explained for Iron Maiden, you'll see about Hao.


i know they explained her pain and how she levels up (i didn't think about it while watching the episode, but it made it more interesting)... i mean she (and Lyserg) even gave them a chance to leave but they were stupid

but that doesn't change the fact that i usually don't like those super op characters, unless it's for fun (like the demon lords and stuff like that, where they usually don't even kill anyone), because in games (like LOL), i don't like getting one shot by an enemy without any chance of defending myself :D

Yeah but that's real bro, if someone is many times stronger than you you don't stand any chance against him. Not just in fight, anything else from real life. You can't do anything against Messi in football or against Lebron in Basketball. You know what I mean 😅
Sep 3, 2021 5:45 PM
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new characters presented on the show is had a very good scenario in these battles is this tournament was very interesting i'm enjoying this arc is surprising me a lot with the fights and fights and deaths.
Sep 4, 2021 3:00 AM

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Amazing justice lmao, X law are a bunch of freaks and their leader is the biggest freak. Can't wait to see their ass getting kicked.
Sep 4, 2021 10:30 AM
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Woahh Iron Maiden jeanne is so cool and Yui Horie is perfect for it. I love how she sings the ending too

Good character



Sep 4, 2021 2:52 PM
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so yoh wont forgive someone for being a killer yet he just got a new teammate that is known for being a mass murderer lmao
Sep 4, 2021 3:07 PM
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so yoh wont forgive someone for being a killer yet he just got a new teammate that is known for being a mass murderer lmao


Well I'd take the "never forgive" with a grain of salt here. Yoh has been thoroughly established to believe that everyone can be redeemed and no one is fully evil.

However Lyserg is somewhat different from Chocolove or Ren who have killed multiple people in the past in that both of them were raised in a way that resulted in their actions. While Lyserg has been shown to be somewhat of a prick, but a good person that may end up becoming a murderer.

Still, no I do not believe that Yoh would really consider it unforgivable, it's more of a "We'd probably not be friends anymore" or "I'd never be able to look at him the same way" but for now, it's fine
Sep 5, 2021 1:38 AM

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Was good to finally see Jeanne (aside from ED), she really carried this episode.
Sep 5, 2021 4:32 AM
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if you were in a iron maiden 24/7 you would probably die of blood loss
Sep 5, 2021 7:47 AM
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FierceVinegar said:
if you were in a iron maiden 24/7 you would probably die of blood loss

Shamash healed her every time she's about to die...
Sep 5, 2021 9:04 AM
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nkozic_7 said:
FierceVinegar said:
if you were in a iron maiden 24/7 you would probably die of blood loss

Shamash healed her every time she's about to die...

healing doesn't mean you gain blood though
Sep 6, 2021 6:55 AM

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Every episode with Marco and/or Jeanne is a good one.
Sep 6, 2021 9:11 AM
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RIP egyptian guys, Iron Maiden is a real struggle and they'll understand it even more soon
Sep 6, 2021 3:55 PM

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i didn't thoughts there will be blood like this :O very surprising and very interesting Jeanne Maiden ^^
Oct 20, 2021 10:38 AM

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Lyserg has powered up a lot but his spirit ally brought him back from killing someone. I don't like Jeanne though, rip those Egyptian guys
Nov 4, 2021 3:39 PM

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Lyserg's well within the X-Laws now and in his first fight, he's with their own leader.

Jeanne constantly being tortured and suffering really adds to the religious zealotry of the X-Laws, a messianic figure. Though instead of referring to the Ten Commandments, she incorporates the older code of Hammurabi.

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Why do these kids always rule the world?
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I thought that lyserg was messed up, but jean the maiden is much more messed. to call everyone who's gonna go in their way as evil is not justice.

Either way, i feel the pace was kinda off compare to previous episodes. but probably because it's non-yoh's gang battle?
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It was quite the surprise to see Hammurabi's Law.

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