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| Is Ayerton supposed to be losing his mind? Aside from his strange stories, he doesn't remember Jean and Nadia, despite the fact that the last time we saw him he was invoking their names in vengeance against the "sea monster", indicating that he not only remembered them but liked them and mourned their apparent deaths. Or the writing is just not keeping things straight. |
| WHAT AN OUTSOURCING NIGHTMARE THE ART AND ANIMATION HAVE JUST WENT TO DERPVILLE |
Fronzel said: Is Ayerton supposed to be losing his mind? Aside from his strange stories, he doesn't remember Jean and Nadia, despite the fact that the last time we saw him he was invoking their names in vengeance against the "sea monster", indicating that he not only remembered them but liked them and mourned their apparent deaths. Pretty much. After drifting in the ocean and ending up on an island, it makes sense for a lone man to lose his mind. It only makes things look more real. He broke so much he started imagining things, like he told Jean and Nadia. The episode did look pretty bad visually. The bluray remaster had some shots that weren't even remastered, just like the mushroom episode. |
 "Your sight, my delight. Will you marry me?" |
| Can things get worse than that? -_-" 1/5 I am worrying about Glandis & co. being reintroduced next episode.  What is this thing under Nadia's eyes and half-covering them? |
| And there went the animation budget... RIP pretty damn good series. This episode did not make sense at all :| and well that ending was promising but if the animation stays like this I doubt I'll be able to finish :o |
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| Geez, the animation got REALLY bad this episode. Some shots had such poor linework with blown-out fills, characters jumping around as they talk, lip syncing was also pretty terrible in spots. |
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| Still bad and absolutely pointless but not as atrocious as last two episodes. Animation is ass, but i don't really care about technical issues in this filler arc. All those episodes have no sense so who cares how they look. |
GvendolineDec 11, 2018 8:05 AM
| This is even worse than the previous episode. Probably the worst animated one of all so far. At least the Grandis band is back. |
| Well continuing the grind we get Jean sneaking meat into Nadia's meal SMH continue that mischaracterization from some episodes back not a good start. Then we are treated to a "hilarious" joke as Jean sends King up in a Kite to check wind direction and speed along with an observation of the horizon only to be reminded by Nadia that King probably cannot do those things OH MAN SO WACKY! Also, apparently Jean forget King was an animal!?! What superior "comedy" if I only understood why it is funny I might have laughed ^-^ And Jean being really subtle caring more about the telescope then King 🙄 and such a great lie to cover for it too. But, we get a new island drifting nearby that has all kinds of environments that Jean concludes it must be due to continental shifting . . . sure that is how Nemo explained it to you guys on how it works. But, we run into a familiar face with Ayerton from the American vessel from many episodes back and I agree the way he talks and goes on about things he clearly has been touched in the head due to being stranded. As the Kings of Terror he describes are clearly the Grandis gang which is . . . unfortunate XD because I was just thinking well these episodes are awful but at least other characters in the series are not really involved so they do not have to be caught up in the cringe! But, I suppose it was only a matter of time before they brought the Grandis gang into this arc as regulars hopefully their characters will not be eviscerated too severely but I will not get my hopes up too high XD |
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| I think this whole island survival thing was very appropriate for the anime, with Nadia basically coming face to face with the 'nature' that she worships so much and having the characters spend time with each other away from the crew of the Nautilus. The hallucinatory and surreal aspects lend themselves to the diversionary nature of this group of episodes. It's like an island fever dream, and that seems right at home in an adventure story on the high seas, and while they're definitely odd I can't bring myself to hate them. It's not 'filler' just because you don't like it. |
syncrogazerSep 14, 2020 10:02 PM
| Does the island have multiple climates because it travels or does it have multiple climates because it might be an Atlantean or even neo-Atlantean invention? So Nadia and Jean didn't bother to mention that the sea monster Ayerton helped to fight off the second time was the Nautillus and that the skirmish caused them to lose crewmembers? Maybe discuss whoever persuaded the Americans into attacking the Nautilus (Gargoyle?). Well, Grandis is back... |
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| While he was clearly describing the Grandis crew, I'm a bit disturbed that he said they were holding him prisoner and then buried him and left him to die. That sounds way out of character for them, they aren't going to ruin them also are they? I also noticed how much worse the animation has gotten in this episode. Characters barely move at all, and then that long scene of them in the boat fishing where they were having a conversation but they were all just a still image, with only the water moving on a short loop. It's obvious they were doing this on a shoestring budget, but even 80s Filmation series were much better than this junk. |
| Now she wants to leave the island? Nothing's consistent anymore, especially the shitty animation |
| Uhh ok the animation got so terrible, what's with this episode? |
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| Wow this was the worst episode yet, god damn was it ugly. |
| Sneaking meat into Nadia's meal was understandable (atleast he felt bad this time) but is a telescope really more valuable to Jean than King's life? Especially since they spent the previous episode looking for him. They really jumped the shark here, unless there's a coherent explanation the weird island is too fantastical for this Anime. Atleast this arc is over and we get to see Ayerton and pressumably the Gratan trio again. Might be a nitpick but why are two Europeans and an African imagining Yokai in Buddhist depictions of hell? Aren't they all christian? Also, this episode was pressumably made in 1991 but it looks below average for 1981 |
AzafuseKingToraMar 7, 2024 1:48 PM
Reply to syncrogazer
I think this whole island survival thing was very appropriate for the anime, with Nadia basically coming face to face with the 'nature' that she worships so much and having the characters spend time with each other away from the crew of the Nautilus. The hallucinatory and surreal aspects lend themselves to the diversionary nature of this group of episodes. It's like an island fever dream, and that seems right at home in an adventure story on the high seas, and while they're definitely odd I can't bring myself to hate them. It's not 'filler' just because you don't like it.
| @syncrogazer It's filler because Anno didn't plan for them and doesn't count them as canon, the Anime was only 26-30 episodes at first but NHK comissioned more episodes because of it's popularity. I like the premise of these episodes for that reason but the execution was bad in my opinion. |
AzafuseKingToraMar 7, 2024 1:52 PM
| whole ep felt like AI generated nonsense. must have been the ep that inspired the show LOST |
Reply to LotteGiants
@AzafuseKingTora What is understandable about Jean's obsession with making Nadia eat meat? She is being kind of ridiculous given they're stranded on a deserted island but it is an asinine subplot that totally undermines their relationship for no reason at all. Is Jean's final step to help her shoot one of Gargoyle's soldiers so she can fully get over her hatred of killing? Its absurd.
And yeah, yet another shit episode. I'm glad the Gainax staff got paid to make a bunch of garbage but its unfortunate that it makes going back to old shows more difficult. Kids these days complain that there's breaks between seasons but the alternative is right here and it sucks balls.
And yeah, yet another shit episode. I'm glad the Gainax staff got paid to make a bunch of garbage but its unfortunate that it makes going back to old shows more difficult. Kids these days complain that there's breaks between seasons but the alternative is right here and it sucks balls.
| @LotteGiants It's understandable precisely BECAUSE they're on a stranded desert island with nothing else to it. I'm pretty sure Jean simply doesn't want her starving to death. I agree with most criticisms given at this arc, but this isn't anywhere near as bad compared to Nadia slapping Jean and going full neurotic after a genuinely romantic scene or dumping Jean over a random African guy. |
Reply to LotteGiants
@AzafuseKingTora I don't agree at all. Forcibly testing the limits of your friend/lover interest's veganism because you're bored is extremely stupid. Nadia and Jean fight a lot but they respect each other during the real series. If Nadia were actively starving to death or something and Jean forced her out of concern then there's something there but on like day 2 of being on the island and still having a pallet of canned potatoes and stuff it makes 0 sense for him to repeatedly violate her trust.
| @LotteGiants Yeah, that makes a lot more sense now that I think about it. Maybe I didn't pay much attention but I thought they ran out already by this point. |
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