86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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Apr 11, 2021 5:48 AM
#201
BilboBaggins365 said: Rifle said: BilboBaggins365 said: Rifle said: BilboBaggins365 said: Rifle said: BilboBaggins365 said: fenrirr2 said: It looks promising but I had some issues and questions that will need satisfying answers, otherwise, the show could fell apart. The war is only going for 9 years, so every citizen should remember, that there is a 86. district with other people. The whole military knows about the 86 people, clearly lack any discipline, drinking and talking about 86 in the department next to the street, doesn't seem like the kind of people who could keep this a secret. They hate the 86 and disgusted by them, which clearly shows, that this stems from a long history, not just a defense mechanism to justify their horrible military use, and this should apply to all citizens, hence "unmanned drones" and keeping the 86 secret is not just unrealistic, but totally doesn't make sense (just look at Marley, if you have an oppressed minority you don't keep it a secret, but actively encourage your citizens in racism and oppression). I hope they can figure out some very clever and satisfying answer for this, but I clearly don't see anything which can justify their hate and secrecy at the same time in a realistic way like AoT did, and I assume this will be either a plot hole or will get a superficial explanation. When you give all of your weapons to an oppressed minority, you better have total control over them, and their families, serious brainwashing, and perks and advantages for their military elite. None of these were seen in the show. The soldiers don't seem brainwashed, treated like shit, aren't treated with a speck of respect, and clearly hate their oppressors, and they are on the frontline with all of the weapons, without serious supervising. It is possible, that their family is under supervision, that could help, but you need all tools I have mentioned to oppress a minority while weaponizing them, and even then it is risky. In the current setting they would have rebelled already. I still hope the show will be good, its LN has a pretty decent score, but it is very likely, that we will get dumb and unrealistic answers to these, and we just have to suspense our disbelief if we want to enjoy the show (I hope not). This is a more fair critique the series will hopefully address. Obviously if they are just one district the chances of rebellion would be unlikely to succeed but there has to be some other reason why they would choose to fight for their oppressors then take even a small chance at succeeding in a revolt. Edit: Families hostage I might assume just because apparently this is like a more exaggerated take on the Japanese interment camps it probably will get explained in next few episodes though. Hopefully it does get explained there are a lot of ways they could. I don't agree you wouldn't be able to finance and support military groups without public knowledge though. It happens all the time especially if the state is less a republic and more like an organized military junta it would be pretty easy to suppress info. If you as a author leave that many questions marks, it does add up very fast. I just have to compare it to Legend of the Galactic Heroes where you would get an intro to our two main protagonists in the first ep and have a good idea about the whole conflict after just one episode. It actually quite simple. Lena as a character is still making little sense to me. But we will see how it goes I guess. I mean there is only one question mark I see which is how are they controlling the people for me. I don't think the Lena thing is a question mark at all. LOTGH actually has a pretty iffy intro if we are taking about the OVA's first two episodes and not the films. Even though it's my favourite anime the OVA throws too much at a new viewer the films introduce it much more slowly and give you time to get to know Yang and Reinhard. Main reason I always clarify to new viewers watch the films and just skip the first two episodes. Kinda off topic, but we actually have a very similar taste it seems. :-D Yeah for a few titles. I mean I will admit bias that I want 86 to be good because the amount of war dramas or even mecha is pretty limited in the industry. It's probably one of my favourite genres main reason I am fan of pulp fiction franchises like 40k lol. I wish we had more titles like LOTGH even if the writing isn't of the same caliber. I will say again off topic why Ashita no Joe S1 over 2? Yep, too little mecha sci fi these days. I also take everything we get and hope it's good. Why Ashita no Joe S1 over S2? The answer is simple, Rikishi is such a good and complex character and the perfect antagonist. Nothing in S2 compares. Fair S2 redid the Carlos Rivera arc much better, Kim Yong-bi was tragic and I thought Jose was pretty good too but Rikishi was pretty much Joe's perfect rival. S2 also benefits I think from better pacing and of course beautiful animation and more dynamic matches. You also had that ending as well. Regardless probably will leave it now on 86 mainly just because I need to wait until it gets into more actually nitty gritty world building to really discuss if it's really solid or not there and see how the characters develop at least in the first cour. I do think it was a good choice not to do that in the first episode. I am at least excited for EP2. Yeah, you can pretty much stop watching S1 after ep 54 or something like that. S2 is still very strong and sure, it pretty mich delivers. Overall it's only because of that character chemistry I have S1 voted higher. I would gladly see it as one entity, like the manga. Sure, see you on episode 2 of 86. |
Apr 11, 2021 5:56 AM
#202
Apr 11, 2021 5:56 AM
#203
I liked of the first episode and i hope big things of this anime, but was a episode with much information and few explication, is normal for a first ep, but i hope that the next episode explain better the world build and how the war machines work |
Apr 11, 2021 6:07 AM
#204
Judging by the first episode isn’t this just Code Geass: Akito of the Exile all of again? |
Apr 11, 2021 6:32 AM
#205
Whoaaa the cgi blended in perfectly with the animation.Almost looked like a live action movie and not to mention the art style looks similar to Wonder egg priority. |
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Apr 11, 2021 6:35 AM
#206
This looks very promising. Hopefully, the studio doesn't mess it up later if the source material is top notch. |
Apr 11, 2021 6:59 AM
#208
So this is Journey of Elaina meets the Iron Blooded Orphans eh? Already a show worth staking the rakes. The duality of people in the same nations is vividly translucent. Was lured to this show by the silver hair waifu and the soundtrack of the PV which is an absolute banger. Let's see what's more later on. |
Apr 11, 2021 7:02 AM
#209
That was quite promising. Interested to see where things go. |
Apr 11, 2021 7:03 AM
#210
dasprn said: So this is Journey of Elaina meets the Iron Blooded Orphans eh? Already a show worth staking the rakes. The duality of people in the same nations is vividly translucent. Was lured to this show by the silver hair waifu and the soundtrack of the PV which is an absolute banger. Let's see what's more later on. No, this is what if young Esdeath would be good and caring :) |
Apr 11, 2021 7:05 AM
#211
fenrirr2 said: dasprn said: So this is Journey of Elaina meets the Iron Blooded Orphans eh? Already a show worth staking the rakes. The duality of people in the same nations is vividly translucent. Was lured to this show by the silver hair waifu and the soundtrack of the PV which is an absolute banger. Let's see what's more later on. No, this is what if young Esdeath would be good and caring :) Esdeath as good and caring is just another side of her but only for Tatsumi. For everyone else she's a fearsome foe. |
Apr 11, 2021 7:16 AM
#212
Scordolo said: Whoaaa the cgi blended in perfectly with the animation.Almost looked like a live action movie and not to mention the art style looks similar to Wonder egg priority. Just saying, if you watch this on your computer or tv with high volume, it will really feel like live action. Tbh half the reason I loved the opening scene so much was because I had my headphone volume near max lmao. |
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Apr 11, 2021 7:33 AM
#213
Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito 4 looks quite neat. Oh wait, wrong series! At least the female main character wears a beautiful garter belt. Good animation quality. But the male lead just seems to be our generic edgy emo of the week. Furthermore, the discipline of the military staff in the headquarter seems to be outrageously low, literally none existing - what a pitiful army. Somehow I'm pressing the thumbs for the attacking drones. |
Apr 11, 2021 7:39 AM
#214
FUCKIN' GLORY TO THE SPEARHEAD SQUADRON!!! I watched so many new anime this weekend. I have so much to say about this one since I like the LN. I'm hoping this can be a contender for Anime of the Season. The opening battle looks well animated, A-1 has gotten better since animating AZ. 01:40 Look at how plasticy that egg looks, and this plays into Lena's dialogue with Henrietta at 12:02 where she is enthused at the prospect of being able to eat a Chiffon cake made of real eggs and milk. 02:09 With white hair, white skin and blue eyes that the Albans possess, they've really portrayed a racially homogenous society. Taking the LN's descriptions to the screen and the LN's dehumanizing dialogue to the audio. 12:19 "It's so good!" perfectly describes this anime and Lena's adorable expression—no, everything about Lena! The cut from research facility back to Lena's handling of Squadron 3 at 13:12 was brilliant and so was the meal cutting to Kujo's death at 18:20 I put Code Geass: Akito the Exiled on hold because I didn't like the 3DCG mecha, but I'm less stringy about that now. When this first cour of 86 finishes, I'll guess I'll watch that to fill the the void. |
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Apr 11, 2021 7:53 AM
#215
That was a really great start! Visuals looks amazing, story and characters has a lot of potential. I wonder why everyone in San Magnolia had similar hair color or something. I really like Lena, she's great right of the bat, I can already tell that she is best girl. It's pretty jarring when they switch from a chill scene to a battlefield like damn, this world is pretty fucked. They don't even treat those in 86 as humans. Well, pretty solid episode, I'll probably rewatch the episode to better understand things or if there are stuff I missed. Really looking forward to the next episode. |
Apr 11, 2021 8:07 AM
#216
I feel like I'm the only one with a negative opinion on this. But this was a huge info dump episode, with abstract terms like processor and para-raid. I don't really like this being introduced so early, but it's fine. Then there was the animation that lacked soul imo. This looks like Asterisk wars, which is an anime I have a strong dislike for. Down to the main character emoting like them in casual moments. It also started with bad CGI so that might of prepped me for a bad time. Everyone feels like a character in an anime, not a character in the world. It's so meh for me. NOW good stuff that makes me rate it 7/10 for now - Direction, oh boy. This was great. It cut between scenes with dramatic tension like butter. from people enjoying dinner to a war torn battlefield. It was great. The theological arguments, the propaganda, and prospective of all the characters, kind of cool. |
Apr 11, 2021 8:19 AM
#217
Oh boy what a promising start! First off, directing is top tier, gotta check who's the director, second Lena is really cute, I love her already. Despite the kind of confusing and infodump-y first episode, I enjoyed it a lot. Can't wait for the next episode. Also question for novel readers... how was the adaptation in terms of pacing? Was it rushed in any way? How many pages did they adapt? If it interests me, I might give it a read. |
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Apr 11, 2021 8:42 AM
#218
Gilgameshuu said: Oh boy what a promising start! First off, directing is top tier, gotta check who's the director, second Lena is really cute, I love her already. Despite the kind of confusing and infodump-y first episode, I enjoyed it a lot. Can't wait for the next episode. Also question for novel readers... how was the adaptation in terms of pacing? Was it rushed in any way? How many pages did they adapt? If it interests me, I might give it a read. Not rushed. The pacing is alright. It only adapted chapter 1 of volume 1. Compared to the LN, there was not quite any info dump in this episode aside from Annette briefly explaining the para raid’s function. As for the terminology, you’ll become more familiar with them as the series goes on, like 86 being called processor instead of human or soldier. Grauwolf and Lowe are dragoon types and tank types enemies from the Legion. The author, like many LN and Manga authors, has a knack for German names. Grauwolf means grey wolf and lowe means lion iirc. |
Apr 11, 2021 9:52 AM
#219
Nice start I would say, got the basic idea of setting. A bit fast paced, but expositions were done well. So how they handle handlers is gonna be the next part, and seems like 129 days is their goal for the new one. Is this really a LN adaptation, production value in this one is good. and there is gonna be sawano |
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Apr 11, 2021 9:53 AM
#220
alshu said: Conceptualhero said: Well... jeez. Wouldn't it be sensical to make an effort to avoid losing privileges and going to jail? Going against this society would do bad things to you no matter how careful you are...and since she is part of the military most likely - firing squad. Well currently, she isn't doing anything that warrants being executed by a firing squad. All she is doing is showing empathy for the Coloratas, which I do not think that is a crime in their society. She is just seen as a joke by her peers, and the first episode has not shown any sort of hostility or violence directed towards her. That's why I have said that being a handler is a smart move on her part because it allows her to communicate with the processors without it bringing unwanted attention towards her. I would make an argument that being a politician is much more dangerous than being a handler. |
ConceptualheroApr 11, 2021 9:59 AM
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
Apr 11, 2021 10:30 AM
#221
dont think i catched all of that info lmao. so is the unit that had the shin guy the same unit our main girl was handling before? are they "drones"? what exactly is the undertaker's unit? (if anyone can explain without spoilers thatd be nice lol) |
Apr 11, 2021 12:47 PM
#222
Animation and op are very good and the beginning of this show was really interesting. |
Apr 11, 2021 1:14 PM
#223
Apr 11, 2021 2:01 PM
#224
I really hope the anime does the light novel justice. It's such an emotional and impactful story and I'm looking forward to watching more. lizzziziz said: dont think i catched all of that info lmao. so is the unit that had the shin guy the same unit our main girl was handling before? are they "drones"? what exactly is the undertaker's unit? (if anyone can explain without spoilers thatd be nice lol) Lena was handling the third unit of District 3 in the Eighty-Six region, now she is handling the first unit of District 1 - also known as the Spearhead Squadron. They are not drones, they are humans. It will later be revealed why they are a part of the war. Shin's unit are basically the ones in charge with dealing with the worst threats their enemies send out as they all have a lot of prior experience on the battlefield when they were a part of different units and were transferred over. Hence, "the ace unit". Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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Apr 11, 2021 2:27 PM
#225
Conceptualhero said: Well currently, she isn't doing anything that warrants being executed by a firing squad. Exact;y, not doing it seams strange to me...if she really cares. Conceptualhero said: She is just seen as a joke by her peers Makes no sense to me giving important tactical tasks to such person in such organisation if they think she is a wacko. This is like giving a flamethrower to a monkey. Conceptualhero said: That's why I have said that being a handler is a smart move on her part because it allows her to communicate with the processors without it bringing unwanted attention towards her. Sorry I don't see anything smart about this show...like aren't all the communication monitored and recorded? Not explicitly to spy on the handlers but for analysis and weeding out problems and systematic errors. Conceptualhero said: I would make an argument that being a politician is much more dangerous than being a handler. Well being a regular operative makes you more squish able from political point of view...and I was only suggesting her becoming political activist if she believes in a more humane cause or something like that... |
Apr 11, 2021 2:52 PM
#226
alshu said: Conceptualhero said: Well currently, she isn't doing anything that warrants being executed by a firing squad. Exact;y, not doing it seams strange to me...if she really cares. Conceptualhero said: She is just seen as a joke by her peers Makes no sense to me giving important tactical tasks to such person in such organisation if they think she is a wacko. This is like giving a flamethrower to a monkey. Conceptualhero said: That's why I have said that being a handler is a smart move on her part because it allows her to communicate with the processors without it bringing unwanted attention towards her. Sorry I don't see anything smart about this show...like aren't all the communication monitored and recorded? Not explicitly to spy on the handlers but for analysis and weeding out problems and systematic errors. Conceptualhero said: I would make an argument that being a politician is much more dangerous than being a handler. Well being a regular operative makes you more squish able from political point of view...and I was only suggesting her becoming political activist if she believes in a more humane cause or something like that... She is a handler that specializes in combat analysis and was considered an elite student. The Alba's main motive is to have the Colorata fight for them, not sabotage their combat effectiveness against the legion. Even if all the communication are monitored, nothing she is currently doing constitute any misconduct. I don't think you understand that empathizing with the Colorata is not explicit grounds for punishment unless they take steps to directly help them stage any sort of rebellion. People can be humane and show empathy with other groups without being at the forefront. For example, I show concern for anti-Asian sentiments that are happening throughout the world, but I am not involving myself with any activist organizations simply because I rather let qualified people handle the current situation at hand. Also can you elaboarate more of what this means: alshu said: Well being a regular operative makes you more squish able from political point of view |
ConceptualheroApr 11, 2021 5:50 PM
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
Apr 11, 2021 3:04 PM
#227
Just how many chapters of the light novel did episode 1 of the anime adapted? Give me the lists. |
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Apr 11, 2021 3:07 PM
#228
What a great premise! And, taking this first ep into the account, it's going to have great development. The universe was very well-built and explained, it made me really interested and engaged in the story. I liked Lena's character, she is righteous, but not plain or stupid. And the 86's soldiers are likeable as well (I even sobbed at the end haha). Animation and OST were also great. But lol, I keep mistaking Lena with Vivy lol, that's anime character design for you |
Apr 11, 2021 3:20 PM
#229
RHS100 said: Just how many chapters of the light novel did episode 1 of the anime adapted? Give me the lists. Chapter 1 basically which puts the pacing at about 6 episodes per volume. This is gonna be great if they keep at it. Glad they’re not rushing it. |
Apr 11, 2021 4:09 PM
#230
The switch scenes were just too damn good at the end. Finally, the wait is over. |
Apr 11, 2021 7:07 PM
#231
Apr 11, 2021 7:23 PM
#232
isuzusan said: ahhh okay i understand now thank you !!lizzziziz said: dont think i catched all of that info lmao. so is the unit that had the shin guy the same unit our main girl was handling before? are they "drones"? what exactly is the undertaker's unit? (if anyone can explain without spoilers thatd be nice lol) Lena was handling the third unit of District 3 in the Eighty-Six region, now she is handling the first unit of District 1 - also known as the Spearhead Squadron. They are not drones, they are humans. It will later be revealed why they are a part of the war. Shin's unit are basically the ones in charge with dealing with the worst threats their enemies send out as they all have a lot of prior experience on the battlefield when they were a part of different units and were transferred over. Hence, "the ace unit". |
Apr 11, 2021 9:30 PM
#233
Apr 11, 2021 9:45 PM
#234
Rifle said: BilboBaggins365 said: _MadeInHeaven_ said: imagine thinking this first ep isn't about tons pointless exposition about foreshadowing future plot nobody cares about Nah they did a lot of showing. Literally the only two scenes with heavy exposition was the one with her father's military friend and Henrietta? You would rather they get into literally the nitty gritty world building details/characterization in the first episode? Rifle said: For me it's more the mix of a very high level intro and those combat scenes which hadn't had any impact or meaning to me (yet). Again I ask how does adding all this "bc they didn't tell you what's the world system, what's the present situation, what's the current conflict, and who's working for who" immediately develop meaning? It's just a ton of text unless you get to know the characters and the world itself which even in little details (like they don't have real ingredients for food) is better I think in the first episode then loading you down with a political history off the bat. It's the first episode meant to introduce the characters and the initial conflict which it does. I guess fair if you didn't get attached to anyone but I thought Lena itself was easy to attach to. The spear head members were just introduced but I already do like their sense of comradery. They kinda wasted time on those food scenes and the medical checkup, sure it's all character building, but I would gladly prefer it to be world building instead. Undertaker didn't receive as much time as Lena. It was very clear from the beginning that those spider bots are no drones as we were shown a glimpse of undertaker in it from the start. So they could give us a more balanced intro of those two. Also Lena is already well aware of all the wrongs it seems about her society and her affection for the soldiers is far too attached already, we as spectators on the other hand have no affection what so ever yet, so it feels quite off to us already. Why has she so much affection? At least this could have been explained. From a commanding perspective it kind of seems wrong to put her in such a position as she will never really make a rational decision on the battlefield, if you ask me. So an explaination for her affection would be justified. The food scene has a meaning behind it , I am not sure you caught up or not . |
Apr 11, 2021 10:51 PM
#235
Gave Code Geass Akito vibes to me, I liked it. Animation was nice and the CGI was done pretty well. Hopeful to see how this series goes. |
Apr 11, 2021 11:54 PM
#236
The MC is really typical...the type of MC I don't care what happens to her. But the story is quite intriguing and the music is obviously really good. That black haired guy seems pretty likeable. They say the 86-ers are not human but they look more human that them. Why does everyone have Gintoki hair over there. It makes it difficult to differentiate them. When Lena dropped that food in the most stupidest way, it pissed me off so much. Anyway, it was really confusing, I hope they explain everything more in the coming episodes. |
Apr 12, 2021 12:19 AM
#237
interesting first episode, i'm curious to see what will happen after and how it will be developpe |
Apr 12, 2021 1:35 AM
#238
Extremely promising first episode. I'm not familiar with the source material, so I have no expectations going in and have avoided spoilers. The production values are good too. Looks like the sleeper hit of the season to me. Gives me serious IBO vibes |
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Apr 12, 2021 5:56 AM
#239
Apr 12, 2021 6:26 AM
#240
The 86s remind me of Iron Blooded Orphans. This is the first show I've watched so far this season that fully had my attention for the debut episode. Very interested to see where the series goes. |
Apr 12, 2021 8:30 AM
#241
Pranavk27 said: Rifle said: BilboBaggins365 said: _MadeInHeaven_ said: imagine thinking this first ep isn't about tons pointless exposition about foreshadowing future plot nobody cares about Nah they did a lot of showing. Literally the only two scenes with heavy exposition was the one with her father's military friend and Henrietta? You would rather they get into literally the nitty gritty world building details/characterization in the first episode? Rifle said: For me it's more the mix of a very high level intro and those combat scenes which hadn't had any impact or meaning to me (yet). Again I ask how does adding all this "bc they didn't tell you what's the world system, what's the present situation, what's the current conflict, and who's working for who" immediately develop meaning? It's just a ton of text unless you get to know the characters and the world itself which even in little details (like they don't have real ingredients for food) is better I think in the first episode then loading you down with a political history off the bat. It's the first episode meant to introduce the characters and the initial conflict which it does. I guess fair if you didn't get attached to anyone but I thought Lena itself was easy to attach to. The spear head members were just introduced but I already do like their sense of comradery. They kinda wasted time on those food scenes and the medical checkup, sure it's all character building, but I would gladly prefer it to be world building instead. Undertaker didn't receive as much time as Lena. It was very clear from the beginning that those spider bots are no drones as we were shown a glimpse of undertaker in it from the start. So they could give us a more balanced intro of those two. Also Lena is already well aware of all the wrongs it seems about her society and her affection for the soldiers is far too attached already, we as spectators on the other hand have no affection what so ever yet, so it feels quite off to us already. Why has she so much affection? At least this could have been explained. From a commanding perspective it kind of seems wrong to put her in such a position as she will never really make a rational decision on the battlefield, if you ask me. So an explaination for her affection would be justified. The food scene has a meaning behind it , I am not sure you caught up or not . You mean that the 86 get real food in contrast to the others who get artificial stuff? Sure. Could have been shown much quicker, but food is important for the Japanese, so it is to be expected that they really gloss into it. |
Apr 12, 2021 9:23 AM
#242
Apr 12, 2021 9:27 AM
#243
Promising first episode but I feel that it failed to really draw me in as a pilot episode. Anyway I'll keep watching. |
Apr 12, 2021 3:43 PM
#244
I honestly cannot comprehend poster’s arguments. It seems they are having trouble articulating their thoughts, and instead opt to dissect my post and take certain information out of context. There are two points I want to address further: The first is the poster’s notion that sympathy can obstruct judgment in battle. While this is a valid point, it is not applicable in the context of the current situation. The Republic is forced into a defensive position. The Legion maintains a strategic advantage over their opponents through the usage of their Eintagsfliege drones, which have the capability to jam radio waves through large-scale EMP effect. (You see the drones at the end of episode 1) In addition, they also have the infrastructure from having constructed factories throughout their territory to replenish their units faster than the Republic. The Republic of San Magnolia had lost a significant portion of their land to the Legion, so they are not only facing a massive financial burden, but also a significant loss in their resource and production output. Hence, they have to be cognizant of how many processors were killed and how many juggernauts were destroyed in combat. Even though the republic sees the “86” as subhuman, they still need to invest resources to train new processors and replenish Juggernauts. All of which takes time, and time is a luxury they do not have because the Legion is relentlessly on the offensive. In summary, even though the Republic do not care about the deaths of the 86s from a humanitarian perspective, they would most likely gauge a handler’s job performance through various metrics such as the death toll of processors and success of battles. The second point I would like to address is the poster’s firmly-held notion that the Republic of San Magnolia is a direct one on one allegory to Nazi Germany, even though I have stated that the Republic drew inspiration from specific countries from the Allies and the Axis in WW2. The author even alluded to this in the afterword of volume 1 of the series. Furthermore, to reinforce a particular point I have made, there were people in the Nazi party that had utilized economic rationale to save numerous Jews from mass murder. These were two notable individuals, Oscar Schindler and Karl Plagge, who worked within the system to save the Jews. Instead of overt opposition to the Nazi Party, they were operating within the law and system, which meant they kept their status within German society. The poster apparently took this concept as a joke for whatever reason, but I just wanted to clarify on this point. In conclusion, I do not care if I do not change the poster's views. I merely wanted to take this as an exercise to point out faulty reasoning. Hopefully people reading this thread can make the decision for themselves. |
ConceptualheroApr 12, 2021 4:46 PM
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
Apr 12, 2021 4:18 PM
#245
the number one of spearhead squadron, Shin aka Undertaker |
Apr 12, 2021 4:25 PM
#246
He is definitely one of the coolest characters! |
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
Apr 12, 2021 7:17 PM
#247
Apr 12, 2021 7:29 PM
#248
What a start! Holy hell, it seems that nobody really cares about the 86th district, lmao I do like the WW2 thematic but it saddens me that i can't understand what's happening in the CGI scene. Other than that, Mirize or Lena is a pretty great character and her design is really nice. Can't wait for the next episode, so she will be now both the Capt of main defense and a soldier of that group, damn. |
Apr 12, 2021 9:39 PM
#249
I see many complaints that they're unable to understand what's happening in this very first episode due to not reading the source material. As a blind viewer with no knowledge on the LN content at all, I can understand what's happening if not, feel all the grim stuff happening to discriminated soldiers. This series is not for viewers who are expecting "Power of Friendship Saves Everyone" trope. This dark realistic take on a parallel, speculative future where 127 years from now, war is told with blatant lies & cover-up by a corrupt government along with the racist military people. Of course you'll have one main heroine to go against her people's petty/pathetic racism towards Eighty-Sixers. The word "Pigs" being used on them should indicate blatant racism for this series' storytelling tone. The only thing this episode could've given me a significant emotional impact is one of the Handlers is seen committing suicide. Instead we viewers get an exposition dump from a certain head commander and that a picture showing to the main heroine could've made her fearful expression be more impactful as ever. The tonal shift balance is at an okay level, but I hope they don't feel like they're forced to include light-hearted scenes just to balance the tone. There are series that stick to heavy-atmosphere storytelling without feeling light-hearted stuff is necessary unless it's needed. Goblin Slayer being a prominent example IMO. |
Apr 12, 2021 9:42 PM
#250
writerRichieK said: I see many complaints that they're unable to understand what's happening in this very first episode due to not reading the source material. As a blind viewer with no knowledge on the LN content at all, I can understand what's happening if not, feel all the grim stuff happening to discriminated soldiers. This series is not for viewers who are expecting "Power of Friendship Saves Everyone" trope. This dark realistic take on a parallel, speculative future where 127 years from now, war is told with blatant lies & cover-up by a corrupt government along with the racist military people. Of course you'll have one main heroine to go against her people's petty/pathetic racism towards Eighty-Sixers. The word "Pigs" being used on them should indicate blatant racism for this series' storytelling tone. The only thing this episode could've given me a significant emotional impact is one of the Handlers is seen committing suicide. Instead we viewers get an exposition dump from a certain head commander and that a picture showing to the main heroine could've made her fearful expression be more impactful as ever. The tonal shift balance is at an okay level, but I hope they don't feel like they're forced to include light-hearted scenes just to balance the tone. There are series that stick to heavy-atmosphere storytelling without feeling light-hearted stuff is necessary unless it's needed. Goblin Slayer being a prominent example IMO. I highly recommend people to read the LN of anime series that were adapted from it as a source material. Adapting a light novel into an anime series is significantly more difficult than adapting from a manga. There is just too much background information that were cut in the first episode that, in my opinion, is needed for worldbuilding and further context. |
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
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