General Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

mafd12 said:
It's weird for me to say this as an anime only, but I've from that percentage of the group that has got spoiled about basically everything, so...



Also...


Obviously, all of this is just my opinion.

MAPPA_Enthusiast said:
Just saw
And it's not that bad but there are 2 Major mistakes imo

1:wrong side holding the stick to move

2: WHERE's the BANDAGE!?

I think that the BANDAGE should cover up for the big forehead. I hope (pray) in the anime to looks better. 🙏🙏🙏

berutoruto said:


Honestly since you're already spoiled for pretty much everything in this arc, why not check out the manga? Isayama's drawings & storyboard are really good, my experience is simply reading it with vogel im kafig ost playing in the back, that easily gives you the tension of the story, the manga is that good i assure you!

Of course, don't miss out the anime too, we can still look forward to the adaptation cause it's handled by experienced script writer hiroshi seko who had also done the previous aot seasons, but meanwhile you can read the manga to get the animation rehearsed in your mind.

lalaland4life said:


No, he's holding the crutch correctly.

TheCloverfield said:
Heard it is better to hold your crutch on the side of your working leg. Not sure how true it is but who the fuck cares anyway lol

JuicyDragonCat said:
Episode 2 HYPEEEE.
Just reread 93 and 94, there are such great dialogue moments in the both of them. So many beautiful interactions between characters and its a slight shame a number of them will unfortunately have to shortened. Best girl is arriving in less then 24 hours

I_Am_Freeballing said:
Read 95 cause it's going to be in there too.

MAPPA_Enthusiast said:



Maybe, but it's different from the manga

lalaland4life said:


So then the only "major mistake" is from the manga, the anime is correcting that.

MAQS said:
Damn I hate when there is less than 24 hours....I cannot concentrate watching anything else, damn you AOT I can wait for any other show until its season ends to watch it, but you noooo, you gotta make me weak and suffer.

MAQS said:
Damn I hate when there is less than 24 hours....I cannot concentrate watching anything else, damn you AOT I can wait for any other show until its season ends to watch it, but you noooo, you gotta make me weak and suffer.

MAPPA_Enthusiast said:


Same. (Can some body insert the "same" meme?) At least i from time to time concentrate for drawing/writing my story, but man the wait is killing me! 😬

mafd12 said:


I'm already planning to read the manga, but once the anime finishes, yeah, I know it's kinda pointless, but it's a determination I've took some time ago, so why give up with one season left? It's gonna be interesting to see how the adaptation actually was the whole time, and some things changed like the ending of S1 or the cuts in the Uprising arc or Grisha's flashback. The only thing I don't wanna know in the future about is the ending of the story, though I'm already seeing it'll be hard to avoid the storm that will come when that chapter drops, that and we already have the last panel, so it's kind (or maybe not) of an expected outcome.

Also, I forgot to mention it earlier, but are those titles for ep 3 and 4 confirmed? When we'll get info about the other episodes? And when we'll get a confirmation on the episode count? It's curious, the season already premiered but there's still a lot of uncertain things. We're in for a wild ride.

Azmarath said:
I really hope that MAPPA don't do the Eren vs Warhammer fight in CGI, would suck if that's the case.

chiearlymorning said:

Reject 2D return to 3D

MAQS said:


I see many people hoping titans will be 2d in later episodes, they either ignore or do not know MAPPA made a 3D model of Eren in the showcase, and if they were gonna use 2d for titans, then they would not have scrapped so many 2d scenes from them on the trailer.

They better start making up their minds about why they enjoy AOT.

yaegerist-15 said:
So true, the titan fights this season will be better than s3 p2 anyway, good and fluid cgi is better than the bad animation from the eren vs reiner fight so why is it that bad for them? I heard from some leaks that its gonna be movie quality, looking forward to this

keragamming said:


Yeah we saw it, its the same thing from the trailer.

berutoruto said:
bruuuhhh @hinako49 & @kaito10 can you two create a thread for healthy & civilized discussions on all these matters? i am so sick of other egoistical pricks making shit threads each and every day spamming this forum, would rather read both of your sensible posts

hinako49 said:
I seriously have no idea what's wrong with this fanbase, it's a freaking one episode, only one episode release & ep 2 is airing in less than a day!!! I cant believe people inbox me to get the staffs social media account or email address saying they wanna give 'feedbacks' for improvements in future episodes.....🙄 I am not a leaker, like the f*** i would know mappa director of photography email or weibo account??? This is my answer : 💩💩💩 👻, you are lucky i am not revealing your account name here 😤

I have been keeping silence for the past few days and i will no longer update the infos i got, i come to a conclusion its better to watch the show with ZERO knowledge to assess it objectively, because what i am seeing here, people are just using those infos to imagine & deduce so many things that we don't know but take it almost as facts when the source is from insider staff. This would already insert preconceptions (both good & bad) onto the series before it has even completed the airing...

Also if y'all still insisting with ideas like 'fans deserve better, no CGI' 'aot should get perfect adaption like WIT level of animation' 'mappa shouldn't accept the offer to do s4' etc. etc. I suggest you guys read @Kaito10 's post here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1880830&show=50#msg61356665

This entire thing is super complicated you can blame kodansha for this planning & schedule , you can blame mappa as an incapable studio for taking this project, but ask yourself, have you contributed anything substantially to help with the manga and anime digital sales also the merchandise products etc. to support the industry? I bet many of us can't help to watch the show on pirate sites right after it went live, and when the leaked manga is out, i bet y'all are so hyped to check it & spread it on twitter already....even in that mappa showcase, i saw international fans complaining the japanese fans not leaking any infos when we didn't pay any shits to the event but we expect others to risk committing illegal acts for fans??? i am not trying to criticize anyone here morally because I'm part of this egoistical fandom too, so at least understand mappa situations here and kodansha ultimate goal for this anime is to raise the manga sales since it is ending soon next year but the sales hasn't been as good compared to other series like kny, jjk from shueisha, and as a business company it's normal for them to do so to maximize the profits from this franchise after they see KnY's success, so this entire thing is results from the industry culture and capitalism, it's not something we can resolve right away by simply trashing on any side of them.

Also you guys think shitting on mappa studio itself has nothing to do with the staffs? you think the higher-ups would be sitting there to read the complains below official site? it's always the staffs that would had to handle these because they are people on the first line production, it's their responsibility for the products they create... and fans complains can only be conveyed through the staffs themselves to the higher-ups, but how many of you would leave comments like please take good care of the staffs, please don't overwork staffs, please stop taking new projects? most comments i saw are all about how badly this show has turned..how bad cgi is... how the show is a downgrade...how mappa quality drops etc etc.
so how do you expect the responsibility would go? it's going to the freaking production staffs !!!!

Not saying y'all can't criticize the work, you can!! but please be reasonable & judge it fair when show has completed the airing or at least wait till the climax episodes are out to see if they done a good job there than fear-mongering entire series after each and every episode

Currently the staff personal weibo account literally turns into a 'mappa customer centre of feedbacks & complains' ....
every day there are 'feedback' comments saying: how this episode directing should have been done....how characters designs should have been drawn..how filters should be used....questioning why WIT can do 2D in short time too but why mappa can't??...why do they decide to use CGI??...and why airing on NHK station????....why pacing takes 2 chp for 1 episode.....👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 good job aot fans, you are the most dedicated fans i have seen, might as well you guys gather some funds & direct the entire series yourself

I will no longer disclose any information i got from there to prevent further staff harassments, I hope you guys enjoy the show as much , we all have different preferences in the criteria used to judge a show's quality, it's subjective after all so please judge with your own opinions, don't get steered and affected by others be it negative or positive views and don't force others to agree with your ideas, thanks!

MAQS said:


IDK about the eastern side of the fans, but I guarantee you if the treatment this season receives is at the same level of Uprising it will still be regarded as well as S3p2.

You need to see the bigger picture and history of anime in general, the reception so far of this first ep was better than what I was expecting honestly, I was also expecting the score here on MAL to have gone down into 9.01 or even less than 9, I still think it will go below 9 before ep 5 releases, if it doesn't now that would truly be a surprise.

This might be a surprise, but comparing this with other series over the course of the years, this level of criticism by the passionate fans only looks so large because the fan-base of AOT is among the largest in the entire history of anime.

hinako49 said:


yeah the chinese community has pretty similar reception as the mal community here, in fact the ratings are so high it reached 9.8 lol, considering most people only leave ratings without reviews, the overall reactions to ep 1 are likely more positive than the reviews left, but anyways i am not against people giving criticisms, what pissed me off are the judgemental views & level of harassments the staffs had to endure i don't think that's normal at all even if you tell me that other popular series had this kind of issues too, but honestly i have never been so engaged with production issues before for any other anime series, it's my first time using mal forum and even create weibo account just to keep track for the production updates, thats how hyped i am for this series so I am speaking from the view of my experience with this fandom so far, i apologized if i offended other aot fans with my words use, i am not generalizing the entire fanbase but only towards certain fanatic fans that went overboard in their actions and words in degrading the staffs efforts.

MAQS said:


Oh you are absolutely right, is NOT normal to harass the people involve in the production of the anime, BUT it IS very common, and in all fields, look at Star Wars for example, the whole history of the franchise makes this look like a pic nic lol.

The only reason I have this perspective is because I have seen similar things in other franchises, SW being chief among them ( Its also my favorite franchise ever so imagine how much I suffered in my childhood with the prequels )

hinako49 said:


Ah i see, yup totally makes sense, this is my first time having these experience with anime lol....i think the staffs are ready for the criticisms too when they decide to pick up this project and knowing this kind of thing is common in the community is rather sad, but i am still gonna voice out as this is a shitty norm that should really be stopped even if my words are not gonna make much difference... at least some people may aware that their action went overboard because i believe most fans are just hoping the best for the show but they have no channels to voice the opinions other than spamming the staffs account they know hoping the staffs can take into account of their comments and honestly word use is really important... some of the fans may not mean badly but the words use are judgemental in a sense that can easily degrade the show performance

MAQS said:


Yep, the bigger the franchise and the bigger the change, the bigger the outrage even if the outrage is small in comparison, it only takes 1 asshole fan out of 100 to make things seem like they are not.

keragamming said:
@hinako49

It is sad that it has come to this, as your post are what I look forward to the most in the previous thread and even this, because I find it interesting to hear the opinion of what the persons behind this adaptation has to say.

But I understand why you are going to stop and I would also do the same if I was in your situation, I just hope that Mappa staff realize that these people that are complaining are the vocal minority and that the majority of the fanbase enjoyed the first episode and are looking forward to more episode.

People are already saying the pacing is going to be bad without even seeing the first episode, like jesus based off the first episode and how well it was adapted, they could have more than given Mappa the benefit of the doubt and atleast see how the second episode will be adapted.

Telling persons to go read the manga instead of watching the anime and that is just too toxic imo, I get that persons are very passionate about this adaptation but my god I don't see any sign that says the adaptation will be a complete disaster pacing wise and animation wise.

Its a completely different staff and some how people expect Mappa to carbon copy Wit studio style, funny enough the majority of viewers said this feels like any attack on titan season and they would not have any idea that the studio had change.

Honestly If I was a staff and saw those comments I would feel down, knowing that I had months of sleepless nights. Personally I wouldn't read fan comments at all, I would just ask if the general opinion of the series is good and that is it.


Also your profile pic fits perfectly to your annoyance to all this. lol

SnipELateness said:


I think this is what you're looking for.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1880685

_iishoxyii_ said:
Eren Yeager is probably one of the greatest characters in all of anime. Isayama took a big risk with Eren’s character and it paid off. What a better way to improve upon an already flawed protagonist by pitting him against his friends. I don’t want to call Eren an antagonist either, his motives are very understandable and he is so well written.