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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Coldfire, now the epicenter of the Imperial Army vs. anti-Imperialists. Captain Herman has no need for words, just conviction to prove his case otherwise...and Innumael at the very worst with his sister held being hostage. What a naive fool, and a Luminosis monster-converted Elfriede for a life-and-death "plot device". The captain's shrewd mind of "revenge and retribution" sure fits his demeanor enough, even to close kin. And now, he's gonna do the same to Innumael's sister, and thankfully with Leo's interception, a shrewd man down and the two meet once again. So Elfirede is part of the Holy Knights, and within Headkeeper (and even the Imperial Army) lies the "Among Us" feature of an internal traitor who's using the organization as a front and facade to commit crimes as a Diet member, that's harrowing. As if I'd know that both the Diet and Headkeeper were in cahoots from the beginning, should've picked up clues, but the "show don't tell" aspect sure took me for a ride. All of that is nonsense now, but one day they'd make sense. Conrad and Leo of the Imperial Army, and the rest of the remaining surviving Headkeeper members now together to fight for a common cause, that's honestly great! The ONE episode that FINALLY got things moving, and a good one at that. |
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| Oh fuck, the dude got fucking destroyed. |
| welp it was obvious from the start that military bad - rebels good, but I guess this cemented it when one of your MC's pretty much defects tbh Leo's story has definitely been the worst out of the 2 MC's thus far. Like apart from that threat at the very end, there's honestly little he's actually done to enact his revenge for his supposedly precious bro. Like up until now (and I honestly assume going forward as well) there's hardly been any actual intensity surrounding Leo's feelings, despite the emotion it tries to build up with regards to his bro Inumael on the other hand, at least it evidently shows how much he cares for his sister to the point where he was willing to "kill" himself albeit jumping down to a lower ledge (whether that was intentional or not is what it is) at least Count-psychopath is dead though, much earlier than I thought he was tbh (he seemed like he'd be the final villain). |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| At least Sissel survive for now. I'm happy For once Leocadio did the right thing God sake hope Hermann doesnt return |
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| Okay. Conrad stayed in his positions to be the white knight for Inumael sister, i see. Then, Leo always coming late as a hero, to finally gave his commander a nice stab and slice. Good job? Meanwhile, Elfriede really didn't have a chance to survived with those transformation, and everything must come to the right way: the final order. Yeah, she finally told everything to everyone, and told them what to do next. But Where were Arn and Ben when everything solved pretty easily? Well, Leo finally join Inumael side for the sake of telling the truth to the Count was not so surprising. Even if himself still had a grudge and untrusted to the HK's band, its really understandable. Don't worry, its a right decision for you, Leocardio. So it will be fine! Honestly, Leo's role to help Inumael already predict when Herman orderred him to go a way. Well, their mission to go to the new capitol, its not an easy route. There were still so much troublesome everywhere. Even, they needed to get out first before actually reaching it. Still, i am glad seeing Schaake appearance again, by dodging her father possessive act, and together with Irma nice action on these episode. So, its clear that the traitor from HK still remained unknown. Okay, its fine, but the death of Herman somehow relieved my mind. Sorry Kenjirou, your character just too insane to be handled that need to put him down, for everyone own goods. Because , a plot made Herman forgetting his surrounding, telling his reason to be insane, judges the crime (with his definition) by another (dirty) crime, the death of him already been decided from the first sight of these episode. So, when the symbolization within the imperial soldiers (via Leo and Conrad) and the HK fighters already reach in one vision, its time to dismantling the rotten diet members schemes behind all of those chaos. I am waiting for another twist, and revelations. So, lets see the next! |
 Hide and seek is the best offline games on this fatamorgana-called-world-thing. Please comment nicely. I am newbie here. I'm level  on mal-badges. View my badges  |
| So, Kururugi Suzaku joined HeadKeeper. |
| I assumed that the creation of a new capital was part of the empire elite's secret plan but the characters weren't surprised when they heard the dying Elfriede mention it so I guess the change of the capital is common knowledge among the citizens (but the activation of the furnace thingy obviously isn't). |
| Great episode, I really like Conrad now. It is very satisfying to see them all work together. Schaake is back, Irma and Schaake are best girls. Confirmed RIP Elfriede now though, at least she was able to give them the information about what she has found out in her spying. Hopefully, Leo eventually forgives Innumael eventually, he was just out there trying to survive. Really looking forward to the next episode, this is definitely one of my favorites this season. |
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| A bit weird seeng Leocadio so composed while talking to the person who killed his heterosexual life-partner.. But.. At least he made his intentions clear at the end..  Now that i think about it.. Who's been taking care of the kids? |
this_shit_again said: A bit weird seeng Leocadio so composed while talking to the person who killed his heterosexual life-partner.. But.. At least he made his intentions clear at the end.. Now that i think about it.. Who's been taking care of the kids? He knows that Inumaru made a grave mistake but he also knows that he's not the ultimate evil in his life and that they've arrived at a point where their two groups must cooperate at all costs. |
Ryan_Melvin15 said: Another fantastic episode and two straight episodes with good production values? Please anime gods, bless this series, it deserves it. What can I say, this series continues to amaze and keep the plot progressing in a believable way that leaves me satisfied every week and looking forward to the next episode the moment the episode ends. Now, props to the two heroes of this week's episode, Conrad and Elfriede. Conrad has always been an interesting character, he definitely showed that he wasn't your stereotypical character from last episode but outright disobeying his superior's orders? Wow. It makes sense, he was convinced that the Imperial army was doing the right thing, but when he realized his promise to Inumaru from last episode that they wouldn't hurt his sister was about to be broken, he knew that something was fishy. A really great character turn and I loved it. Elfriede on the other hand, what a hero. She was determined to deliver the message that she had wanted to do so ever since she was revived by Arnolt and Ben before turning again. Followed them to the city and even defended them from the army before being killed by the same people she once called her allies. And literally wasting no time to tell the information she got, what a true spy. She suffered a lot this series..... And the death of Hermann. Wow, this was a shock. I won't lie, I can only think of two series that killed off their main villain so coldly and quick with no buildup to such great effect, yet it suits him somewhat. He lost pretty much his soldiers to Elf and them turning on him, he's not completely invincible obviously. I wonder if Coldfire can revive a dead person, we'll find out soon enough. Thought the whole prison scene with his dad was chilling, Tsuda convincing someone to commit suicide in an anime this year yet again, he must be stopped. And Leo's teamup with Inu is pretty damn great, Leo's angry handshake is so against the usual tropes, I love it - there is still room for conflict to develop between this two for sure. I was going to quote some parts of this, but the whole post is quotable. Damn right, Elfriede was a real trooper. She should get a heroine's burial. Also, her voice actress Yukiyo Fujii is pretty attractive.  Both the handling of Helman and Leo's angry handshake there are realistic. There is a lot of good stuff about the characters here and there. This anime doesn't just run through the numbers. |
HegarDec 2, 2020 3:21 PM
| Oh no Helman.. Anyway Glad that scum is dead, not that I hate him or anything, surely the most interesting character here, but he was a bastard for sure |
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| Imagine the look Leocardio si going to give to Immanuel when he finds out he is the one responsible of getting him into head keeper and the reason the situation even happened in the first place |
Avvenirista said: this_shit_again said: A bit weird seeng Leocadio so composed while talking to the person who killed his heterosexual life-partner.. But.. At least he made his intentions clear at the end.. Now that i think about it.. Who's been taking care of the kids? He knows that Inumaru made a grave mistake but he also knows that he's not the ultimate evil in his life and that they've arrived at a point where their two groups must cooperate at all costs. But Leocadio's only motivation up to this point was finding Innumael.. He hasn't even fully processsed this new information, which he sees as conspiratorial conjecture.. I was expecting stink eye, not a friendly face..  |
RIP Helman, there’s something called karma. Leocadio was always suspicious of him. It’s nice to see a bit of character development from Leocadio. Hopefully, he eventually finds out he’s responsible for Immanuel ending up in Headkeeper and then they can both forgive each other and become the best of friends, the end lol... |
this_shit_again said: Avvenirista said: He knows that Inumaru made a grave mistake but he also knows that he's not the ultimate evil in his life and that they've arrived at a point where their two groups must cooperate at all costs. But Leocadio's only motivation up to this point was finding Innumael.. He hasn't even fully processsed this new information, which he sees as conspiratorial conjecture.. I was expecting stink eye, not a friendly face.. You're partially wrong. Yes, his motivation up to this point was catching him but his intent is very different from before; at the very beginning he wanted him dead and buried for what he had done but that changed after he was ordered to bring his sister to the capital, and that's because he learned about his brother's killer through Inumaru's sister and discovered that the poor bastard wasn't a bad guy and that him becoming a murdered was ultimately an accident so now he just wants him to atone for his sins (put him behind bars?). With that said, he still gave him the stink eye plus a bone breaking handshake in the first gif you posted |
| ah good thing Helman is dead thanks to Leocadio and it seems that they have a truce for now with all the truths slowly unravelling... 4/5. |
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Well.. I disagree. Avvenirista said: Yes, his motivation up to this point was catching him but his intent is very different from before; at the very beginning he wanted him dead and buried for what he had done I've seen him griefing, but i didn't see any signs of that.. Avvenirista said: but that changed after he was ordered to bring his sister to the capital, and that's because he learned about his brother's killer through Inumaru's sister and discovered that the poor bastard wasn't a bad guy Didn't he already have doubts about whether he was involved with headkeepers on their way to questioning his sister.. And those doubts growing stronger after speaking with her.. Regardless, you don't suddenly stop resenting the killer of your loved one just because his sister told a childhood story of how good of an onii-chan he is, or you have doubts whether he is part of headkeepers.. Avvenirista said: and that him becoming a murdered was ultimately an accident so now he just wants him to atone for his sins (put him behind bars?). An accident.. Like.. oops, I lost my footing while holding a giant knife behind my enemy and landed it point-forward on his back.. No, i would characterize it more as a fight or flight response.. And has anyone noticed how effective a killer Innumael is.. He managed to kill a soldier while the actual headkeeper members didn't.. He was the one who killed the little girl who turned into a monster.. He had a hand in killing Elfriede.. I think he found his calling.. Avvenirista said: With that said, he still gave him the stink eye plus a bone breaking handshake in the first gif you posted While his behavior before that was weirdly upbeat.. The reaction as a whole didn't feel believable. Side note: Is Helman really dead.. I get the feeling he might come back.. |
this_shit_againDec 8, 2020 6:25 AM
| I was quite worried for his sister throughout this episode. Glad she's okay. |
this_shit_again said: Well.. I disagree. Avvenirista said: Yes, his motivation up to this point was catching him but his intent is very different from before; at the very beginning he wanted him dead and buried for what he had done I've seen him griefing, but i didn't see any signs of that.. Avvenirista said: but that changed after he was ordered to bring his sister to the capital, and that's because he learned about his brother's killer through Inumaru's sister and discovered that the poor bastard wasn't a bad guy Didn't he already have doubts about whether he was involved with headkeepers on their way to questioning his sister.. And those doubts growing stronger after speaking with her.. Regardless, you don't suddenly stop resenting the killer of your loved one just because his sister told a childhood story of how good of an onii-chan he is, or you have doubts whether he is part of headkeepers.. Avvenirista said: and that him becoming a murdered was ultimately an accident so now he just wants him to atone for his sins (put him behind bars?). An accident.. Like.. oops, I lost my footing while holding a giant knife behind my enemy and landed it point-forward on his back.. No, i would characterize it more as a fight or flight response.. And has anyone noticed how effective a killer Innumael is.. He managed to kill a soldier while the actual headkeeper members didn't.. He was the one who killed the little girl who turned into a monster.. He had a hand in killing Elfriede.. I think he found his calling.. Avvenirista said: With that said, he still gave him the stink eye plus a bone breaking handshake in the first gif you posted While his behavior before that was weirdly upbeat.. The reaction as a whole didn't feel believable. Side note: Is Helman really dead.. I get the feeling he might come back.. Huh, I think our positions are diametrically opposed. |
| Leo really got the audacity to say he'll make Innumael take responsibility despite knowing what caused Innumael to get involved in the first place. At least glad Leo backstabbed that mentally deranged captain. Respect to Conrad for trying to do whats good and logical. |
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