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Jul 3, 2020 8:11 AM
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So, Takeshi Hinata (the author of the manga "Ahiru no Sora", yeah bc I remind many aniime-only viewers that this is first a manga which started in 2003) came back on twitter (his last tweet was in November 2019) and he's NOT nice with the anime (actually more about Diomedea)

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279038651024859138

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279042612771471361

Japanese literates would translate better than me but essentially he said that he was receiving a lot of DM regarding the anime and apologize about the quality of the anime and is very harsh with Diomedea and the directing.

What's funny is that it seems that he does NOT watch the anime (he even tweeted about episode 1 only many weeks later and was already complaining about a small modification). And what seems to piss him even more is the "zone effect" with the Fuwa character in the last episode, because yeah people, there are no super crazy power zones in that manga.

BTW, just a precision about his disappointment. You should know that he refused many proposal in the past (as they wanted to change the scenario) and accepted that time as a present for the fans (Ahiru no Sora is/was already a good seller and Hinata does not care about advertisement. There is one year when It was the best-selling sport manga in whole Japan). And well...

And I like the last tweet: "it's been a long time guys!" Mic drop...

Good to see that he thinks as many manga readers...but I think that season 2 hopes are maybe...doomed
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Blu7 said:
So, Takeshi Hinata (the author of the manga "Ahiru no Sora", yeah bc I remind many aniime-only viewers that this is first a manga which started in 2003) came back on twitter (his last tweet was in November 2019) and he's NOT nice with the anime (actually more about Diomedea)

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279038651024859138

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279042612771471361

Japanese literates would translate better than me but essentially he said that he was receiving a lot of DM regarding the anime and apologize about the quality of the anime and is very harsh with Diomedea and the directing.

What's funny is that it seems that he does NOT watch the anime (he even tweeted about episode 1 only many weeks later and was already complaining about a small modification). And what seems to piss him even more is the "zone effect" with the Fuwa character in the last episode, because yeah people, there are no super crazy power zones in that manga.

BTW, just a precision about his disappointment. You should know that he refused many proposal in the past (as they wanted to change the scenario) and accepted that time as a present for the fans (Ahiru no Sora is/was already a good seller and Hinata does not care about advertisement. There is one year when It was the best-selling sport manga in whole Japan). And well...

And I like the last tweet: "it's been a long time guys!" Mic drop...

Good to see that he thinks as many manga readers...but I think that season 2 hopes are maybe...doomed





i hope there is another season and the manga is continued but with a different studio coz diomedia are honestly not the right studio for this anime.
Jul 3, 2020 4:41 PM
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Man, on one hand, the directing is not ideal and the animation is hot garbage. But on the other...they havent really cut out THAT much. I really dont know how to feel.


Blu7 said:
So, Takeshi Hinata (the author of the manga "Ahiru no Sora", yeah bc I remind many aniime-only viewers that this is first a manga which started in 2003) came back on twitter (his last tweet was in November 2019) and he's NOT nice with the anime (actually more about Diomedea)

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279038651024859138

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279042612771471361

Japanese literates would translate better than me but essentially he said that he was receiving a lot of DM regarding the anime and apologize about the quality of the anime and is very harsh with Diomedea and the directing.

What's funny is that it seems that he does NOT watch the anime (he even tweeted about episode 1 only many weeks later and was already complaining about a small modification). And what seems to piss him even more is the "zone effect" with the Fuwa character in the last episode, because yeah people, there are no super crazy power zones in that manga.

BTW, just a precision about his disappointment. You should know that he refused many proposal in the past (as they wanted to change the scenario) and accepted that time as a present for the fans (Ahiru no Sora is/was already a good seller and Hinata does not care about advertisement. There is one year when It was the best-selling sport manga in whole Japan). And well...

And I like the last tweet: "it's been a long time guys!" Mic drop...

Good to see that he thinks as many manga readers...but I think that season 2 hopes are maybe...doomed


So do you know what in particular Japanese readers have a problem with regarding the anime? Has to be animation, first and foremost right. Because I feel they havent cut that much? Did they even consult him at all? I'm sure there were some changes to his actual story he probably wanted.
Jul 4, 2020 2:53 PM
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ARSALANMURDER said:
Blu7 said:
So, Takeshi Hinata (the author of the manga "Ahiru no Sora", yeah bc I remind many aniime-only viewers that this is first a manga which started in 2003) came back on twitter (his last tweet was in November 2019) and he's NOT nice with the anime (actually more about Diomedea)

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279038651024859138

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279042612771471361

Japanese literates would translate better than me but essentially he said that he was receiving a lot of DM regarding the anime and apologize about the quality of the anime and is very harsh with Diomedea and the directing.

What's funny is that it seems that he does NOT watch the anime (he even tweeted about episode 1 only many weeks later and was already complaining about a small modification). And what seems to piss him even more is the "zone effect" with the Fuwa character in the last episode, because yeah people, there are no super crazy power zones in that manga.

BTW, just a precision about his disappointment. You should know that he refused many proposal in the past (as they wanted to change the scenario) and accepted that time as a present for the fans (Ahiru no Sora is/was already a good seller and Hinata does not care about advertisement. There is one year when It was the best-selling sport manga in whole Japan). And well...

And I like the last tweet: "it's been a long time guys!" Mic drop...

Good to see that he thinks as many manga readers...but I think that season 2 hopes are maybe...doomed





i hope there is another season and the manga is continued but with a different studio coz diomedia are honestly not the right studio for this anime.
Diomedea is the right studio for nothing. It is easily one of the worst studio in the industry imo
Jul 4, 2020 2:59 PM
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this goes to show that this is not always true

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Not every member of the Committee gets equal say in every matter, and most of them wouldn't want oversight over everything anyway. (A toy maker wouldn't care about who gets American publishing rights, for example.) One member, however, holds a huge amount of power, by Japanese law: the gensakusha, or original creator, usually a manga artist, gets final say over every major decision.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05

especially when the anime is starting animation production already (not pre-production) that the manga author cannot simply say to the anime studio to redo it from start again since the budget is not gonna redo itself too lol
Jul 4, 2020 3:06 PM
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At least they are not afraid to speak there mind
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Jul 5, 2020 12:09 AM
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Man, on one hand, the directing is not ideal and the animation is hot garbage. But on the other...they havent really cut out THAT much. I really dont know how to feel.


So do you know what in particular Japanese readers have a problem with regarding the anime? Has to be animation, first and foremost right. Because I feel they havent cut that much? Did they even consult him at all? I'm sure there were some changes to his actual story he probably wanted.

Sorry for the delay of my answer. Well, I don't have the perfect answer to all your questions, but what I can say:

- Regarding consulting him, I am 99% sure that it is not the case. I maybe wrong, but I suppose that you read his comments on twitter too, and as I said, when you read his comment on October 15,2019 about episode 1, you can already see that there was something off. Indeed, that was his reaction about the only "main" modification in that episode 1 (the fact that Sora cleaned the dirty basket ball with a cloth rather than using his sleeve like in the manga): "I could not resist to feel like you became the child of someone else". So I don't know what is exactly the deal between him, Kodansha and production committee, but there are clearly some gaps somewhere.

- Sure, they did not cut many things of the manga but I am almost sure that it was the kind of "promise" that he got from them and that's it. And I won't be surprised if that pic of "Kuroko no Fuwa" has been the final touch to an accumulation of frustration as it is clearly something different from the original material and I mean almost every anime-only viewer was pointing at Kuroko copy after that episode (the episode 37 topic here speaks for itself).And let's not forget that in this episode, they cut 20 pages from the manga!

- But I think that this is another illustration of misunderstanding between "anime world" and manga authors, especially in that "production commitee" model. I mean, for instance, the episode introducing Nao is full of anime original content (I mean, as you have certainly noticed, that episode adapts only 1.5 chapter) and we know that this all for the sake of selling a cute female character to people.

- Regarding Japanese people, I don't go on Japanese "dark" forums etc. and I don't read/speak Japanese (thanks "online translator"!) so I cannot properly answer. But clearly, when I read live comments on twitter during episodes in Japan, you see (sometimes, as they are few) some people disappointed mainly regarding the directing and the lack of animation. Of course, they are less than those enjoying it, but you clearly see a disparity between people who have read the manga, and those who haven't. And actually, I am surprised by the number of people who read the original material and claimed to have stopped watching the anime if you translate some replies to the author rant.
Jul 5, 2020 1:26 AM
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DatRandomDude said:
ARSALANMURDER said:





i hope there is another season and the manga is continued but with a different studio coz diomedia are honestly not the right studio for this anime.
Diomedea is the right studio for nothing. It is easily one of the worst studio in the industry imo


you arent wrong there tbf
Jul 5, 2020 1:28 AM
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Blu7 said:
RW0 said:
Man, on one hand, the directing is not ideal and the animation is hot garbage. But on the other...they havent really cut out THAT much. I really dont know how to feel.


So do you know what in particular Japanese readers have a problem with regarding the anime? Has to be animation, first and foremost right. Because I feel they havent cut that much? Did they even consult him at all? I'm sure there were some changes to his actual story he probably wanted.

Sorry for the delay of my answer. Well, I don't have the perfect answer to all your questions, but what I can say:

- Regarding consulting him, I am 99% sure that it is not the case. I maybe wrong, but I suppose that you read his comments on twitter too, and as I said, when you read his comment on October 15,2019 about episode 1, you can already see that there was something off. Indeed, that was his reaction about the only "main" modification in that episode 1 (the fact that Sora cleaned the dirty basket ball with a cloth rather than using his sleeve like in the manga): "I could not resist to feel like you became the child of someone else". So I don't know what is exactly the deal between him, Kodansha and production committee, but there are clearly some gaps somewhere.

- Sure, they did not cut many things of the manga but I am almost sure that it was the kind of "promise" that he got from them and that's it. And I won't be surprised if that pic of "Kuroko no Fuwa" has been the final touch to an accumulation of frustration as it is clearly something different from the original material and I mean almost every anime-only viewer was pointing at Kuroko copy after that episode (the episode 37 topic here speaks for itself).And let's not forget that in this episode, they cut 20 pages from the manga!

- But I think that this is another illustration of misunderstanding between "anime world" and manga authors, especially in that "production commitee" model. I mean, for instance, the episode introducing Nao is full of anime original content (I mean, as you have certainly noticed, that episode adapts only 1.5 chapter) and we know that this all for the sake of selling a cute female character to people.

- Regarding Japanese people, I don't go on Japanese "dark" forums etc. and I don't read/speak Japanese (thanks "online translator"!) so I cannot properly answer. But clearly, when I read live comments on twitter during episodes in Japan, you see (sometimes, as they are few) some people disappointed mainly regarding the directing and the lack of animation. Of course, they are less than those enjoying it, but you clearly see a disparity between people who have read the manga, and those who haven't. And actually, I am surprised by the number of people who read the original material and claimed to have stopped watching the anime if you translate some replies to the author rant.


im not surprised by the fact that people dropped the anime once they saw the manga, the amount of animation is the same after all, and one is clearly superior. i just wish more chapters were translated
Jul 5, 2020 9:29 AM
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Blu7 said:
RW0 said:
Man, on one hand, the directing is not ideal and the animation is hot garbage. But on the other...they havent really cut out THAT much. I really dont know how to feel.


So do you know what in particular Japanese readers have a problem with regarding the anime? Has to be animation, first and foremost right. Because I feel they havent cut that much? Did they even consult him at all? I'm sure there were some changes to his actual story he probably wanted.

Sorry for the delay of my answer. Well, I don't have the perfect answer to all your questions, but what I can say:

- Regarding consulting him, I am 99% sure that it is not the case. I maybe wrong, but I suppose that you read his comments on twitter too, and as I said, when you read his comment on October 15,2019 about episode 1, you can already see that there was something off. Indeed, that was his reaction about the only "main" modification in that episode 1 (the fact that Sora cleaned the dirty basket ball with a cloth rather than using his sleeve like in the manga): "I could not resist to feel like you became the child of someone else". So I don't know what is exactly the deal between him, Kodansha and production committee, but there are clearly some gaps somewhere.

- Sure, they did not cut many things of the manga but I am almost sure that it was the kind of "promise" that he got from them and that's it. And I won't be surprised if that pic of "Kuroko no Fuwa" has been the final touch to an accumulation of frustration as it is clearly something different from the original material and I mean almost every anime-only viewer was pointing at Kuroko copy after that episode (the episode 37 topic here speaks for itself).And let's not forget that in this episode, they cut 20 pages from the manga!

- But I think that this is another illustration of misunderstanding between "anime world" and manga authors, especially in that "production commitee" model. I mean, for instance, the episode introducing Nao is full of anime original content (I mean, as you have certainly noticed, that episode adapts only 1.5 chapter) and we know that this all for the sake of selling a cute female character to people.

- Regarding Japanese people, I don't go on Japanese "dark" forums etc. and I don't read/speak Japanese (thanks "online translator"!) so I cannot properly answer. But clearly, when I read live comments on twitter during episodes in Japan, you see (sometimes, as they are few) some people disappointed mainly regarding the directing and the lack of animation. Of course, they are less than those enjoying it, but you clearly see a disparity between people who have read the manga, and those who haven't. And actually, I am surprised by the number of people who read the original material and claimed to have stopped watching the anime if you translate some replies to the author rant.

Man, thanks for such a thorough answer. I mean, I knew it was bad with the Japanese community but not this bad haha. Honestly, I just wished this series could actually have decent animation, that's all I asked, but I donno man. But I knew as soon as I saw the studio that it would become like this. I guess the author knew too.
Jul 6, 2020 12:32 AM

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Diomedea is the right studio for nothing.


They made Kodomo no Jikan.
I think that's the only anime I truly like from Diomedea.
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anikevin said:
DatRandomDude said:

Diomedea is the right studio for nothing.


They made Kodomo no Jikan.
I think that's the only anime I truly like from Diomedea.


And Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai was also awesome
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Jul 6, 2020 10:24 PM
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He should approach Netflix or Crunchyroll if he want the adaptation to be exactly 100% of his visionary, not more or less. (Though right now CR is so deep into Korean webtoon adaptation)

This is how adaptation works, the director can insert his own visionary into the adaptation, no one will blame Sora copy Kuroko since 10 seconds Google search will reveal who comes before. Maybe the author'll satisfied only with motion comic (it's manga with voice actors+sound effects/music)
Jul 7, 2020 12:46 AM

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although i have only watched 9 episodes so far of this anime
it's not that bad from what i've seen from it thus far no idea why the manga author hates its adaptation...
he should at least be thankful that there is even an anime....
those tweets let him look like a miserable asshole... who complains about everything
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He should approach Netflix or Crunchyroll


Lmao, that's the worse thing you could ever do.
Jul 8, 2020 5:31 AM

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Well lol doesn't seem like this will get a new season.
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Well, Diomedea is known for subpar quality, I'm not up to date with the anime, but what I've seen so far was surprisingly decent.

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Honestly, episodes 33-36 stopped me from dropping this anime. I'm not surprised the creator has a few complaints about the adaptation, something often feels... off about this anime. Despite it not being the best anime I've seen, I have grown to enjoy the main cast and hoped there would be future seasons, though it seems another season is unlikely?
Reading the manga is an option, but I don't know if it's scanlated, let alone officially translated. Sigh.. how difficult is it to learn Japanese lol?
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The best thing about this adaption is the voice actors. Most of the voice actors are high tier. Maybe this is where all the money went into.
Jul 9, 2020 4:35 AM
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Blu7 said:
So, Takeshi Hinata (the author of the manga "Ahiru no Sora", yeah bc I remind many aniime-only viewers that this is first a manga which started in 2003) came back on twitter (his last tweet was in November 2019) and he's NOT nice with the anime (actually more about Diomedea)

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279038651024859138

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279042612771471361

Japanese literates would translate better than me but essentially he said that he was receiving a lot of DM regarding the anime and apologize about the quality of the anime and is very harsh with Diomedea and the directing.

What's funny is that it seems that he does NOT watch the anime (he even tweeted about episode 1 only many weeks later and was already complaining about a small modification). And what seems to piss him even more is the "zone effect" with the Fuwa character in the last episode, because yeah people, there are no super crazy power zones in that manga.

BTW, just a precision about his disappointment. You should know that he refused many proposal in the past (as they wanted to change the scenario) and accepted that time as a present for the fans (Ahiru no Sora is/was already a good seller and Hinata does not care about advertisement. There is one year when It was the best-selling sport manga in whole Japan). And well...

And I like the last tweet: "it's been a long time guys!" Mic drop...

Good to see that he thinks as many manga readers...but I think that season 2 hopes are maybe...doomed



well wasn't those 50 episodes will be a full adaptation to the manga ?

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RW0 said:
Man, on one hand, the directing is not ideal and the animation is hot garbage. But on the other...they havent really cut out THAT much. I really dont know how to feel.


Blu7 said:
So, Takeshi Hinata (the author of the manga "Ahiru no Sora", yeah bc I remind many aniime-only viewers that this is first a manga which started in 2003) came back on twitter (his last tweet was in November 2019) and he's NOT nice with the anime (actually more about Diomedea)

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279038651024859138

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279042612771471361

Japanese literates would translate better than me but essentially he said that he was receiving a lot of DM regarding the anime and apologize about the quality of the anime and is very harsh with Diomedea and the directing.

What's funny is that it seems that he does NOT watch the anime (he even tweeted about episode 1 only many weeks later and was already complaining about a small modification). And what seems to piss him even more is the "zone effect" with the Fuwa character in the last episode, because yeah people, there are no super crazy power zones in that manga.

BTW, just a precision about his disappointment. You should know that he refused many proposal in the past (as they wanted to change the scenario) and accepted that time as a present for the fans (Ahiru no Sora is/was already a good seller and Hinata does not care about advertisement. There is one year when It was the best-selling sport manga in whole Japan). And well...

And I like the last tweet: "it's been a long time guys!" Mic drop...

Good to see that he thinks as many manga readers...but I think that season 2 hopes are maybe...doomed


So do you know what in particular Japanese readers have a problem with regarding the anime? Has to be animation, first and foremost right. Because I feel they havent cut that much? Did they even consult him at all? I'm sure there were some changes to his actual story he probably wanted.



To be fair I'm an anime only watcher, but I've never at any point thought the animation was garbage. I've definitely seen far worse.
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Blu7 said:
So, Takeshi Hinata (the author of the manga "Ahiru no Sora", yeah bc I remind many aniime-only viewers that this is first a manga which started in 2003) came back on twitter (his last tweet was in November 2019) and he's NOT nice with the anime (actually more about Diomedea)

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279038651024859138

https://twitter.com/hinatatakeshi/status/1279042612771471361

Japanese literates would translate better than me but essentially he said that he was receiving a lot of DM regarding the anime and apologize about the quality of the anime and is very harsh with Diomedea and the directing.

What's funny is that it seems that he does NOT watch the anime (he even tweeted about episode 1 only many weeks later and was already complaining about a small modification). And what seems to piss him even more is the "zone effect" with the Fuwa character in the last episode, because yeah people, there are no super crazy power zones in that manga.

BTW, just a precision about his disappointment. You should know that he refused many proposal in the past (as they wanted to change the scenario) and accepted that time as a present for the fans (Ahiru no Sora is/was already a good seller and Hinata does not care about advertisement. There is one year when It was the best-selling sport manga in whole Japan). And well...

And I like the last tweet: "it's been a long time guys!" Mic drop...

Good to see that he thinks as many manga readers...but I think that season 2 hopes are maybe...doomed



well wasn't those 50 episodes will be a full adaptation to the manga ?


The manga is still ongoing, since 2003. I think it has over 600 chapters.

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I haven't watched the anime but that "zone effect" superpower BS is all the reason I need to avoid not only this anime but sports anime in general. I play basketball and I watch most, if not, all NBA games (before the pandemic hit) but sports anime will never be as entertaining as real sports. I don't care if this anime features a favourite sport of mine but as long as they keep doing the slow-motion, monologue-heavy, characters having super-power ability bullshit then I ain't going to watch sports anime. Baby Steps is the only sports anime that was actually done right and it's a shame that they keep turning the sports genre into some shounen BS. What's wrong with keeping sports anime grounded?

Btw, based on that name, basketball teams being on zone is actually a thing but I can already guess the anime exaggerated that and turned it into some cringe-fest.

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Diomedia is the worst studio in existence so I can kinda see why the author is mad.
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I haven't watched the anime but that "zone effect" superpower BS is all the reason I need to avoid not only this anime but sports anime in general. Baby Steps is the only sports anime that was actually done right and it's a shame that they keep turning the sports genre into some shounen BS. What's wrong with keeping sports anime grounded?

Btw, based on that name, basketball teams being on zone is actually a thing but I can already guess the anime exaggerated that and turned it into some cringe-fest.

Just to tell you that to NOT put too much focused on that pic. The sport in that series is actually grounded and there's not even any mention of zone. This is actually the reason of the WTF. Especially because so far, they had been respectful of the manga, except for that. But anyway, there's also no animation in the games so I prefer to not recommend it to you (even though in "Baby Steps" too there wasn't that much animation but this is different from Basket-ball)

ImWaltz said:
Reading the manga is an option, but I don't know if it's scanlated, let alone officially translated. Sigh.. how difficult is it to learn Japanese lol?

If You can read French, it is legally published. Actually, this is how I read it but that is my native language so...(Just one volume behind Japan but the commercial name has been modified into "Dream Team")
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jc9622 said:
I haven't watched the anime but that "zone effect" superpower BS is all the reason I need to avoid not only this anime but sports anime in general. I play basketball and I watch most, if not, all NBA games (before the pandemic hit) but sports anime will never be as entertaining as real sports. I don't care if this anime features a favourite sport of mine but as long as they keep doing the slow-motion, monologue-heavy, characters having super-power ability bullshit then I ain't going to watch sports anime. Baby Steps is the only sports anime that was actually done right and it's a shame that they keep turning the sports genre into some shounen BS. What's wrong with keeping sports anime grounded?

Btw, based on that name, basketball teams being on zone is actually a thing but I can already guess the anime exaggerated that and turned it into some cringe-fest.


I agree with that, even though I watched and liked a fair share of rather semi-realistic sport series like Yowamushi Pedal.
Ahiru no Sora though is very realistic in my eyes and the picture the author critizies is just a visual effect, nothing more. They just wanted this scene to look flashier I guess.
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Anime in general is usually poorly produced and this may be due to budget issues because 50 episodes need a large budget to produce surprisingly, but I think the work budget is somewhat weak I love the literal conditioning of manga in the anime
Anime in general is usually poorly produced and this may be due to budget issues because 50 episodes need a large budget to produce surprisingly, but I think the work budget is somewhat weak I love the literal conditioning of manga in the anime
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Blu7 said:
jc9622 said:
I haven't watched the anime but that "zone effect" superpower BS is all the reason I need to avoid not only this anime but sports anime in general. Baby Steps is the only sports anime that was actually done right and it's a shame that they keep turning the sports genre into some shounen BS. What's wrong with keeping sports anime grounded?

Btw, based on that name, basketball teams being on zone is actually a thing but I can already guess the anime exaggerated that and turned it into some cringe-fest.

Just to tell you that to NOT put too much focused on that pic. The sport in that series is actually grounded and there's not even any mention of zone. This is actually the reason of the WTF. Especially because so far, they had been respectful of the manga, except for that. But anyway, there's also no animation in the games so I prefer to not recommend it to you (even though in "Baby Steps" too there wasn't that much animation but this is different from Basket-ball)

ImWaltz said:
Reading the manga is an option, but I don't know if it's scanlated, let alone officially translated. Sigh.. how difficult is it to learn Japanese lol?

If You can read French, it is legally published. Actually, this is how I read it but that is my native language so...(Just one volume behind Japan but the commercial name has been modified into "Dream Team")




in the first 8 episodes there was some animation in the game.
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Hinata has previously been critical of adaptations of his work. In the 39th volume of the original manga, he wrote that he had been approached on two prior occasions to organize a screen adaptation of his work, but he turned down both offers because they ended with the protagonist playing in the NBA.
I could see why but it would probably have better production values

jc9622 said:
I haven't watched the anime but that "zone effect" superpower BS is all the reason I need to avoid not only this anime but sports anime in general. I play basketball and I watch most, if not, all NBA games (before the pandemic hit) but sports anime will never be as entertaining as real sports. I don't care if this anime features a favourite sport of mine but as long as they keep doing the slow-motion, monologue-heavy, characters having super-power ability bullshit then I ain't going to watch sports anime. Baby Steps is the only sports anime that was actually done right and it's a shame that they keep turning the sports genre into some shounen BS. What's wrong with keeping sports anime grounded?

Btw, based on that name, basketball teams being on zone is actually a thing but I can already guess the anime exaggerated that and turned it into some cringe-fest.
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There's nothing wrong with the adaptation, and the opinion of someone who doesn't even watch it should be immediately discarded. Being the original author does not make him a better judge -- the opposite is probably true.

Accusing the anime of presenting super powered characters is an absolutely brainlet take. Anyone who actually watches the show will tell you that isn't the case at all.

The real takeaway from this is that the publisher should keep a better leash on this guy so he doesn't go running his mouth publicly. It also serves as a reminder that twitter is pure cancer and that the world would be a much better place without it.


I agree. This studio definitely put a lot of effort with it getting 50 episodes, not getting delayed once, consistent art. If you think about it, this studio has only done shows that are 12 episodes to 20 max. I'm impressed by the quality that they have given for 50 episodes on their first try of a long running show.

Quite sad that the author doesn't like it. The scene with the lightning effect makes the scene look nicer than if it did not have it. Publicly trash talking the adaption was not good, and the author could have said his opinion in a different way.
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i like this anime it is entertaining. i don't know maybe animation is not too tier but it shows necessary animation in games. but emational moments in Sora life with his mother was very well made. just that can make this anime at least 7/10
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Gersen said:
There's nothing wrong with the adaptation, and the opinion of someone who doesn't even watch it should be immediately discarded. Being the original author does not make him a better judge -- the opposite is probably true.

Accusing the anime of presenting super powered characters is an absolutely brainlet take. Anyone who actually watches the show will tell you that isn't the case at all.

The real takeaway from this is that the publisher should keep a better leash on this guy so he doesn't go running his mouth publicly. It also serves as a reminder that twitter is pure cancer and that the world would be a much better place without it.


I agree. This studio definitely put a lot of effort with it getting 50 episodes, not getting delayed once, consistent art. If you think about it, this studio has only done shows that are 12 episodes to 20 max. I'm impressed by the quality that they have given for 50 episodes on their first try of a long running show.

Quite sad that the author doesn't like it. The scene with the lightning effect makes the scene look nicer than if it did not have it. Publicly trash talking the adaption was not good, and the author could have said his opinion in a different way.

Sorry to partially disagree. Publicly talking may not be the best thing, but claiming that bc of consitent art (and thanks Lord, the art it is, because the animation, or should I say lack of it, is horrendous), they should be applauded? I disagree (an yeah, I know the situation of animators). And the last episodes have been a butchered puzzle of the manga (funny enough, that should be now that he should complain as some side characters development have been thrown out of the window). And I am not talking about the fashion word "skuga" that everyone claims everywhere, just some basic moves would be enough.

And we don't even know how things have been scheduled. Reminder that the anime was announced on March 2018 and started broadcast in October 2019. So I am happy for them that they managed to do it, but none of us know exactly the details of the deal between them. So, whatever...and good luck for Kodansha trying to put a leash on him knowing who he is...lol

BTW, I repeat that I said that it SEEMS that he does not watch. Not that he does not.
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happyfacecool said:


I agree. This studio definitely put a lot of effort with it getting 50 episodes, not getting delayed once, consistent art. If you think about it, this studio has only done shows that are 12 episodes to 20 max. I'm impressed by the quality that they have given for 50 episodes on their first try of a long running show.

Quite sad that the author doesn't like it. The scene with the lightning effect makes the scene look nicer than if it did not have it. Publicly trash talking the adaption was not good, and the author could have said his opinion in a different way.

Sorry to partially disagree. Publicly talking may not be the best thing, but claiming that bc of consitent art (and thanks Lord, the art it is, because the animation, or should I say lack of it, is horrendous), they should be applauded? I disagree (an yeah, I know the situation of animators). And the last episodes have been a butchered puzzle of the manga (funny enough, that should be now that he should complain as some side characters development have been thrown out of the window). And I am not talking about the fashion word "skuga" that everyone claims everywhere, just some basic moves would be enough.

And we don't even know how things have been scheduled. Reminder that the anime was announced on March 2018 and started broadcast in October 2019. So I am happy for them that they managed to do it, but none of us know exactly the details of the deal between them. So, whatever...and good luck for Kodansha trying to put a leash on him knowing who he is...lol

BTW, I repeat that I said that it SEEMS that he does not watch. Not that he does not.


It is good the art is consistent because usually shows with bad animation have bad art (Plunderer for example). People saying Diomedia is the worse studio ever are incorrect when studio such as Geektoys is way worse.

Also about them skipping content, if he complained now it would make sense but a lot of people complain about the slow pacing in this show. Imagine them actually spending time on a side character, and I would imagine people complaining even more.

Kodansha does not have to put him on a leash as he is allowed to have an opinon. What I mean is that he should say his opinion in a better way next time and not as offensive.
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happyfacecool said:

It is good the art is consistent because usually shows with bad animation have bad art (Plunderer for example). People saying Diomedia is the worse studio ever are incorrect when studio such as Geektoys is way worse.

Also about them skipping content, if he complained now it would make sense but a lot of people complain about the slow pacing in this show. Imagine them actually spending time on a side character, and I would imagine people complaining even more.

Kodansha does not have to put him on a leash as he is allowed to have an opinon. What I mean is that he should say his opinion in a better way next time and not as offensive.

Sure sure (btw, sorry if I may have sounded offensive). I got what you say about worst studio than Diomedea and I am myself happy that they have at least did so much. That is the reason why I agree that the way he did it was absolutely not...correct (especially as he's himself an artist and know how these kind of critics are bad). About the pace, what's funny is that in my opinion, there were occasions at the beginning to cut things, but they have been slow or extended things (Nao episode for instance, contained many anime only material for "cute character selling" purpose) and it looks like this is only now that they have decided to panick and noticed that there was still a lot to say Lol.

Anyway, the game will start next episode so let's enjoy!
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Blu7 said:
happyfacecool said:

It is good the art is consistent because usually shows with bad animation have bad art (Plunderer for example). People saying Diomedia is the worse studio ever are incorrect when studio such as Geektoys is way worse.

Also about them skipping content, if he complained now it would make sense but a lot of people complain about the slow pacing in this show. Imagine them actually spending time on a side character, and I would imagine people complaining even more.

Kodansha does not have to put him on a leash as he is allowed to have an opinon. What I mean is that he should say his opinion in a better way next time and not as offensive.

Sure sure (btw, sorry if I may have sounded offensive). I got what you say about worst studio than Diomedea and I am myself happy that they have at least did so much. That is the reason why I agree that the way he did it was absolutely not...correct (especially as he's himself an artist and know how these kind of critics are bad). About the pace, what's funny is that in my opinion, there were occasions at the beginning to cut things, but they have been slow or extended things (Nao episode for instance, contained many anime only material for "cute character selling" purpose) and it looks like this is only now that they have decided to panick and noticed that there was still a lot to say Lol.

Anyway, the game will start next episode so let's enjoy!


Nah don't worry, you didn't sound offensive at all. I agree with you about the cutting important stuff and adding more anime original scenes.

I think if they added more manga scenes like important character development for side characters rather than those Nao scenes or reduced the length of scenes like Madoka's mixer etc.

Anyways yeah I can't wait for next episodes, hope it continues to be enjoyable!
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What else did he expect? The story he created is to blame. Even if we viewers like the main characters, i t's damn painful to watch them lose all the friggin time. ALlL THE TIME, LITERALLY. What the heck was he even thinking, not letting them win a single, SINGLE game, including practice ones, for dozens of volumes, making them lose in the very first round of the reginal tournament to a pisspoor team who obviously would lose in the 2nd round themselves in a flash. It was a notoriously bad decision on the mangaka's own part, I loved the story until that godawful part, it just made me drop it for kore than half a year simply of how stupid and pointless and outright hopeless it made the whole journey.
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What else did he expect? The story he created is to blame. Even if we viewers like the main characters, i t's damn painful to watch them lose all the friggin time. ALlL THE TIME, LITERALLY. What the heck was he even thinking, not letting them win a single, SINGLE game, including practice ones, for dozens of volumes, making them lose in the very first round of the reginal tournament to a pisspoor team who obviously would lose in the 2nd round themselves in a flash. It was a notoriously bad decision on the mangaka's own part, I loved the story until that godawful part, it just made me drop it for kore than half a year simply of how stupid and pointless and outright hopeless it made the whole journey.


That's honestly true. I've only just finished this anime but the interhigh part really had me hyped for a second there seeing the results of their efforts finally show and then suddenly losing AGAIN? Like jeez, I know I've already said lots of times that I hate how the original Yu-Gi-Oh makes the main character win ALL the time, but this proves that the opposite can happen as well. There needs to be balance, and there shouldn't be blue balling on hype moments. Honestly after watching this show I prefer seeing a generic shounen, at least those give hope rather than sending the message: "Yeah, even if you try real hard you will always lose" I'm going to read the manga because I do really enjoy these characters. Hopefully they win eventually and I don't waste my time.

Also I still think Studio Pierrot is the worst of them all hahaha
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Lmao, ofc, who would freaking be happy when their work gets murdered into a low-budget lackluster bland adaptation. It's a good thing this is only 50 episode series as it is a painful watch from start to finish. One way or another, I'm amazed at the fact that the author was vocal about his disappointment. Nowadays, a lot of authors just don't either care because they already got paid or just too timid to voice their opinion to the animation studio.
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I didn’t see a problem with the animation when I watched it. Maybe you’re paying too close to detail. Even naruto has moments and too frequent to count
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Baby Steps is the only sports anime that was actually done right and it's a shame that they keep turning the sports genre into some shounen BS. What's wrong with keeping sports anime grounded?
Give Ookiku Furikabutte a try if you want some realistic baseball anime.
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The animation is practically nonexistent in a majority of this show. I can see why he’s disappointed

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