| It is great and fits Ghost in the Shell SAC perfectly Please listen to the entirety of the original SAC soundtracks and explain to me how SAC 2045's music isn't totally stylistically in line with the rest of the SAC series |
| Too cheesy, don't like it(and yes, I got it) |
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| I hate the op, and you know what? I actually like the show. The music is not my type at all, the visual is kinda boring, basically a less shocking and over all inferior remake of the opening of Mamoru Oshii's 1995 GitS movie. Had the op been a better representation of the show, there might be less backlash on the internet when it was first released. I mean, I know that Origa is gone and Yoko Kanno retired, but this is what giving up sounds like. |
garyborken said: I hate the op, and you know what? I actually like the show. The music is not my type at all, the visual is kinda boring, basically a less shocking and over all inferior remake of the opening of Mamoru Oshii's 1995 GitS movie. Had the op been a better representation of the show, there might be less backlash on the internet when it was first released. I mean, I know that Origa is gone and Yoko Kanno retired, but this is what giving up sounds like. The show was bound to get backlash regardless of the OP. It's ugly. |
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| I'll talk about it, I don't like it. Origa died years ago, and Yoko Kanno isn't involved so we were never going to get the OP a third season of SAC should deserve but even so, this ain't it. And visually it's just retreading the 1995 movie's assembly sequence except less interesting to look at and in CG. Inner Universe had that unfortunate 3DCG animation, but Rise was a great OP song and had a great animation to go with it. |
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| Music aside, It reminds me a lot of Westworld. |
| The soundtrack's pretty good but the opening theme is garbage, I don't like that type of music. The opening animation is cool but it's just a worse version of the movie opening El-Melloi said: Music aside, It reminds me a lot of Westworld. When I watched westworld's opening credits I was reminded of the original ghost in the shell's opening. Probably an homage. |
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| Alright, so I'm talking mostly about the MUSIC and not the VISUALS of the opening. Yoko Kanno definitely worked with similar styles on the original SAC soundtracks as those heard in this opening (jazz, funk, hip hop [yes she did, listen to "Get 9" for a straight up rap verse]). I just want you guys to maybe see that Kamiyama and Aramaki absolutely know what they're doing with this show, at least in keeping the same musical spirit. |
| I'm digging the show. I like the ED and soundtrack. But, I really dislike the OP. I'm open to something different, but this track is annoying. I'm not asking for Origa/Kanno or Cornelius... The track is just corny. |
poemofdevil said: I'm digging the show. I like the ED and soundtrack. But, I really dislike the OP. I'm open to something different, but this track is annoying. I'm not asking for Origa/Kanno or Cornelius... The track is just corny. Can you explain what specific aspect(s) of the song make it feel corny to you? |
| The lyircs... Yes, I know I'm setting myself up when we've had stuff like "She's incredible math"... And the singing, I guess. I just don't feel it. It's not as if my opinion is law or anything. You or anyone else that likes it shouldn't feel ashamed for liking it. I just personally wish I could have liked it as much as I did with the other OPs which would get me pumped for the next episode. |
| the lyrics of the show do fit theme of the story (money), so it fits that way. |
popsicle1290 said: no shit.. i'm guessing netflix just wanted to leech off the franchise's popularity and cut as many corners as possible to cash in while they could. You are quoting the wrong person. |
orewagomi said: Alright, so I'm talking mostly about the MUSIC and not the VISUALS of the opening. Yoko Kanno definitely worked with similar styles on the original SAC soundtracks as those heard in this opening (jazz, funk, hip hop [yes she did, listen to "Get 9" for a straight up rap verse]). "Get 9" was not event part of my memory of SAC's original two season, before you mentioned it. When I think of SAC's music, I think of the two OPs and "I do", And if ask me about the more subtle BGM, I think of "I can't be cool" or "Torukia", those are what I think are representative of SAC's music. I just want you guys to maybe see that Kamiyama and Aramaki absolutely know what they're doing with this show, at least in keeping the same musical spirit. I doubt that they have control on that aspect. I also don't think they are infallible, they already allowed Ilya Kuvshinov on board as character design. |
garyborkenApr 25, 2020 2:36 AM
| I tried to listen more closely to the music and it's more blade runner than old SAC. A lot of vangelis CS80 sweeps and fast basslines. |
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| The music of SAC_2045 fits into the world setting, and in terms of genre, it kind of not that different from beloved original music. But, (there's always gonna be a "but") While the current music are just ok, there's no score particularly outstanding either. This makes all the difference. Kanno Yōko’s music always standout, every time(so does Kenji Kawai). |
| I liked the song but the visuals were both boring and ADD at the same time. I think something similar to the ending visuals would look better. Show off some of the action of the show rather than focusing on one thing the whole time. |
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poemofdevil said: The lyircs... Yes, I know I'm setting myself up when we've had stuff like "She's incredible math"... And the singing, I guess. I just don't feel it. It's not as if my opinion is law or anything. You or anyone else that likes it shouldn't feel ashamed for liking it. I just personally wish I could have liked it as much as I did with the other OPs which would get me pumped for the next episode. Yeah that's totally fair, everyone's inclination to enjoying certain styles is gonna be different. I really agree with Frozenkex though Frozenkex said: the lyrics of the show do fit theme of the story (money), so it fits that way. What's so interesting to me about SAC 2045 is the setup of a world with an absolutely demolished economy. How does a world work like that? Well, even a global simultaneous default won't stop money from making the world go 'round. IMO, Ghost in the Shell has always been a cheesy and pulpy police procedural. But its strength comes in all the interesting themes and ideas that the writers who jump on the franchise bring to it. I personally see that combination of interesting concepts and cheesy genre trappings in SAC 2045's opening. That's what makes it feel like Ghost in the Shell to me. I know Mamoru Oshii made the franchise seem super serious, but the original manga was silly and cheesy in its own unique way while putting forth crazy concepts and themes. |
garyborken said: orewagomi said: Alright, so I'm talking mostly about the MUSIC and not the VISUALS of the opening. Yoko Kanno definitely worked with similar styles on the original SAC soundtracks as those heard in this opening (jazz, funk, hip hop [yes she did, listen to "Get 9" for a straight up rap verse]). "Get 9" was not event part of my memory of SAC's original two season, before you mentioned it. When I think of SAC's music, I think of the two OPs and "I do", And if ask me about the more subtle BGM, I think of "I can't be cool" or "Torukia", those are what I think are representative of SAC's music. That's a totally fair interpretation of what sounds like SAC. I love all those tracks you mentioned and they're totally a big part of SAC's identity, but to me there's the equally important cheesy and aggressive side of the soundtrack in tracks like "Run Rabbit Junk." Honestly, there's pretty distinct similarities between the vocal performance on that and SAC 2045's opening, as well as the hip-hop influenced beat mixed with distorted guitars and synths. Anyway, I kinda outlined in my previous post why I think the cheesy side of Ghost in the Shell is just as important. But I get if you don't like music with these particular cheesy genre trappings. Thing is, if you look past the surface, the SAC 2045 OP has some really interesting stuff going on with the composition and production. If a cheesy pop song also has interesting composition or production behind it I PeRsOnAlLy will really enjoy it. Not to mention, the lyrics play into the themes of the show like Frozenkex said which is super cool |
orewagomiApr 25, 2020 10:59 AM
| It's growing on me but the visuals are boring up until the very end. |
garyborken said: Yoko Kanno retired, uh...she didn't retire lol. Just last year she wrote a piece for the Emperor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Kanno#Works_on_Imperial_commission She's been doing soundtracks for TV shows and movies. |
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Kougeru said: garyborken said: Yoko Kanno retired, uh...she didn't retire lol. Just last year she wrote a piece for the Emperor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Kanno#Works_on_Imperial_commission She's been doing soundtracks for TV shows and movies. she basically gradually "fade out" from the industry. Her last work for anime is 2014, nearly 6 years ago. (2012 for video games, 2015 for films). That's why he would suggest she's like retirement(although not fully yet). |
| Pretty dicey song imho but in this age of general memery, what can one expect? The faithful continuation of the franchise sound-design? Only the reminder that as serious as you were, you had been watching silly cartoons all along. Money makes the world go round. *drops the mic* |
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| Did I hear correctly? Last line of the op he says "it's full of shit" encapsulates sac-2045 perfectly. |
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Catalano said: Did I hear correctly? Last line of the op he says "it's full of shit" encapsulates sac-2045 perfectly. No. https://www.lyrical-nonsense.com/lyrics/millennium-parade-ghost-in-the-shell-sac-2045/fly-with-me/ Looks like your ears are full of shit. |
poemofdevil said: Catalano said: Did I hear correctly? Last line of the op he says "it's full of shit" encapsulates sac-2045 perfectly. No. https://www.lyrical-nonsense.com/lyrics/millennium-parade-ghost-in-the-shell-sac-2045/fly-with-me/ Looks like your ears are full of shit. kinda disappointed now that I read the lyrics |
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