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Apr 7, 2020 2:15 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This show has a cartoony look and honestly, I'm not sold on it yet. We got the main guy Hiiro showing up with his phone (tagged Shadowverse). He seems like a cherry guy with a friendly personality. As this deals with card game elements, we do get some gameplay. Seems the players have to use their phones to engage in battle. Kinda gimmicky for the battle but I can get used to this. |
Apr 7, 2020 2:18 AM
#2
Related to the franchise/game itself: I'll get this out here; I can sympathize Shadowverse fans if this is not the "Shadowverse anime" they wanted and they're free to express their disappointment for that. (I would be angry too if a series I really love suddenly did something like this.) I heavily respect the original source media and its fans in that regards. However, as someone who happen to be a fan of typical kids anime (more commonly called "hobby anime" in Japan), I really do want to enjoy this as its own thing, and not as "how it faithfully portrays Shadowverse". That said... it's cool that Cygames is trying out different genres on their IPs--but this anime made me wonder why they wanted Shadowverse itself to tap into the younger audience market instead creating a new IP for that... Honestly I would definitely play a Cygames mobage with the same TCG-esque characters and plot even without the Shadowverse brand. Maybe I'll eventually understand it, but for now, again, I want to enjoy this as what it is. Now back to the episode itself: The rival-kun's name is spelt and pronounced as "Rushia" in Katakana, but they romanized it as Luca instead of Lucia? Interesting... Then again Cygames romanized Kyaru as Karyl so. *shrugs* LOL @ how Hiiro and Kazuki didn't have a chance to battle at all. The characters already ticked a lot of kids anime checklist. The hot-blooded protag? Check. The cool rival? Check. The heroine, the idol? Check. Hell even the "first episode bully" too. Coco and Mimi as those art clas sculpture, I recognize them thanks to Granblue. Is their teacher a Shadowverse nerd too for all these Shadowverse sculptures?! The animation seems pretty good, I like how they even animate the small movements of their hair/head even when they're merely speaking. (Mimori is the biggest evidence of this, also Takuma's creepy expressions...) Hiiro posing before activating(?) his phone is my fav part. The battle of Hiiro vs Takuma was quite summarized so I didn't really understand the game's rules because of it, I assume they merely want to focus on introducing the characters/story first before the game itself. Lucia/Luca at the end and in the next episode! Looking forward to that... Overall, it was nice. Ticked a lot of any TCG/kids anime trope, the animation and character design is cool, though the pacing for some parts was too fast for my liking. (See: Hiiro not having a smartphone > suddenly gets one few minutes after > already utilized his deck?? I assume the next few eps will prob explain that he's been studying to play Shadowverse before getting a smartphone.) |
KogamehApr 7, 2020 4:31 AM
Apr 7, 2020 3:47 AM
#3
I know that Takuma guy use soldier deck theme, but I can't help noticing so many bara monsters he summoned, perhaps he's into bara? LOL Anyway, the animation quality is good both 2D and 3D. Remind me of Monster Strike. And the monster is mostly in human form/adult/muscular so it is a plus for me. I have high hope for this show, despite the plot is basically normal toy-selling kids anime... wait... I love it because it is a normal toy-selling kids anime, I don't want to watch any violence in the show anymore! Real world is messed up enough! |
Apr 7, 2020 5:06 AM
#4
Seems to be cool, i'm looking forward to the next episode |
Apr 7, 2020 5:38 AM
#5
As somebody that decided to pick up Shadowverse due to the downgrade of Yugioh Sevens what i have to say is im shocked. This art isnt the best but it did better than sevens. In conclusion I think this looks better art wise. I wiuls like to know more about thw guy at the end |
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Apr 7, 2020 5:57 AM
#6
As someone who used to play the game I just laugh at how both of them just throws a lone low cost card on endgame. That should only happen with very specific decks, and it's even rarer for it to happen on both sides lmao Ignis Dragon is also an Anime-only card, and it's easy to tell since it has so many good abilities with respectable stats (No-EP evolution even if it's hard to activate, AOE, and +5 attack). I also wonder why anyone would think betting phones is acceptable. Do they not have rules for this? Despite it I still really enjoyed this episode, definitely a lot more compared to Princess Connect's first showing. Ignis Dragon is the only thing I have against this show right now, and probably will stay that way. I also wonder why it's "Luca" instead of "Lucia" like another poster has said. |
Apr 7, 2020 6:03 AM
#7
Looks like a lot of fun honestly, and interested to see where the plot goes. I can already see this being compared to Sevens just because of both being card games, but both look good in their own right. |
Apr 7, 2020 7:16 AM
#8
Losing to bullshit RNG topdecks? Yeah, this is pretty much an accurate representation of my years of playing digital CCGs. |
"People die when they are killed" - Emiya Shirou |
Apr 7, 2020 7:24 AM
#9
Typical card game anime in every way. So it might become my guilty pleasure. |
Apr 7, 2020 8:42 AM
#10
Show and characters seem fun enough, not sure how long ill keep watching though |
Apr 7, 2020 8:55 AM
#11
Ok, but he really be using a duel disk for a phone. Also, everyone's deck is so bad, its like gen 1 yugioh with the worst cards imaginable. Also, the ignis dragon isn't even a card, that was just actual bs topdeck. |
Apr 7, 2020 9:31 AM
#12
Wait? Shadowverse has 1587 cards.... What, it's NOT ENOUGH?! You need to creat some shitty OP card with X effects on it... Holy shit I don't see future for this. There were So many strategies and stuff which was ACTUALLY used irl game. Just use them in anime, don't create some bullshit stuff like this -_- |
Apr 7, 2020 11:40 AM
#13
As a guy who has 900+ hours on shadowverse im really dissapointed by this show. I mean its cool to see all these cards getting cool animations and all but thats it. The plot itself doesnt even look interesting i might finish this anime just to see more of battles but thats all. I know cygames is trying to promote the game and not just make a good anime from the game story but man is it disappointing |
Apr 7, 2020 2:01 PM
#14
I feel like watching a 24 minutes long add for the game :( This is now what we wanted, I will give it maybe 1-2 episodes before drop :( |
Apr 7, 2020 2:20 PM
#15
As hardcore Yu-Gi-Oh fan disenfranchised by the newest Yu-Gi-Oh Anime series(Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens) this is right up my alley. It's pretty generic but it's exactly what I loved about YGO. I might even check out the actual game because of it. |
Apr 7, 2020 2:30 PM
#16
From my understanding he went from finding a phone to dueling someone for a second time that day, who I expected to be way better than him via experience of playing. Followed by the revelation the other dude probably wasn't that good either. See what happens next week I guess but nothing to write home about so far. |
To have you, Id give a billion lives A-Chan best girl |
Apr 7, 2020 3:29 PM
#17
It's so cliché that after the episode ended I still have no idea if they are making a parody or if they didn't care and just wrote a piece of shit. |
Apr 7, 2020 4:08 PM
#18
lol that scrub lost her phone and didn't say anything until he lost... if he had any honor he would have given his own phone to Hiro the fact that guy lost to a 1st time player (even if he used an op deck), while showing off and bullying people in school ... whatever,not even worth saying anything :v |
Apr 7, 2020 5:07 PM
#19
Man, are there any CCG anime that don't turn it into some bullshit fantasy nonsense that you have to be 8 to like? "Somehow I'm an experienced player who had no idea what that card you pulled could do! Look at me be shocked!" "I'M A BEGINNER PLAYER, I PLAYED 5 CARDS, I HAD SO MUCH FUN! ALSO I SCREAM EVERYTHING I SAY!" |
Apr 7, 2020 5:20 PM
#20
I don't know, this was kind of bland. Would rather finish the PazuDora anime than sticking with this, especially if this lasts more than a cour. |
Apr 7, 2020 6:01 PM
#21
Looks more YGO than YGO Sevens which is quite hilarious and the production values are quite good. I'll excuse them for showing a half-assed shadowverse battle in this episode because they were setting up the world and introducing characters but I hope they show more of the rules and strategies in these battles. |
Apr 7, 2020 10:06 PM
#22
Doradura said: I wished they show Shadowverse universe stuff but not that crap yea literally they had an ingame story going and its pretty good but they decide to this instead. Disgusting |
Apr 7, 2020 10:28 PM
#23
This is an extremely dry cut of Zexal's first episode but just levitate some bad points that Yuma got. Being gated from the game by family (check), Some people getting bullied and having their deck taken (smartphone in this case, checked) Main character got a deck made of crap but an actual good boss handed (check) Yeah, like this, the same flow of Zexal's first episode. Doesn't help that it has the same character designer and some old staffs, but directed by someone who has never done a card game anime before. It is a worse intro episode but bigger budget than YGO Sevens, because Konami and their production board are being dirt cheap this time and don't seem to trust their products. On to the game itself, it's a boring game not designed with anime battle in mind, resulting that they have to skip turns a lot so as to not wear actual players out. This somehow gatekeeps newcomers. It doesn't help that they actually choose to copy from Yu-Gi-Oh! which has a really different gameplay. If anything, they should have chosen Battle Spirits or Duel Masters, but seem like they go for Yu-Gi-Oh! since this franchise has Western presence. |
ShadowMegaApr 7, 2020 10:35 PM
Apr 7, 2020 11:20 PM
#24
It's so much better than this Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens shitfest |
Apr 8, 2020 12:14 AM
#25
its generic but its my kind of generic. Imma keep watching |
Apr 8, 2020 2:33 AM
#26
I don't like this kind of main character at all. And why they don't explain rules? It's not look like a show for fans, but for the one who doesn't familiar with the game it's hard to understand what happened in the battle. +It seems kinda rushed (he never played the game but already have an account in game and a deck?) Tbh I like tcg kids show, so I'll watch it anyway |
Apr 8, 2020 4:14 AM
#27
After reading this thread, it just hit my mind WHY would they make the protag a newbie if they're skimming through the rules like that. I swear 99% of TCG makes the protag a novice just so the viewers can learn the rules alongside him. They could make him a hobbyist who found the phone in the past and I think the plot wouldn't differ much anyway aside from...Kazuma's shame of being beaten by a newbie lol. (Then again, eh, I probably shouldn't think too much because not that this matters as much when the game is more prominent in later episodes.) deviruchi787 said: its generic but its my kind of generic. Imma keep watching No words describe how I truly feel about most kids anime so much. |
KogamehApr 8, 2020 4:17 AM
Apr 8, 2020 10:24 PM
#28
i never knew this was a kids show but instead of cards its smapho's! lolz if i heard it correctly i heard Asta VA Gakuto Kajiwara & Maple VA Kaede Hondo... 3/5. |
Apr 8, 2020 11:12 PM
#29
I person can´t even say it´s an ad for the game because if someone decided to play it, it would probably be because of those cards that seem to be the main characters trump cards... that don´t exist in the actual game. |
RamaTheStrandedOtaku Nier and MGS fan. |
Apr 9, 2020 8:06 AM
#30
Apr 11, 2020 7:54 AM
#31
I played shadowverse over a year and this is garbage. Stop with the fake yu gi oh animes |
Apr 13, 2020 12:57 PM
#32
It's the level of bad it makes it good, the whole plot is ridiculous and it barely even follows the game rules and some of the cards doesn't exist. Everything in this anime feels wrong and I wanna see more for my amusement. |
Apr 14, 2020 2:15 AM
#33
Honestly, it's exactly what I expected from it. These kinds of animes are meant to popularize the game they were based on, and they usually do a darn good job. I wasn't expecting it to blow the world up with just how great it is. it's basically a Card Game anime, and as one it's really good for a start. Cliché main character, cliché rival, and cliche 3d projected play but still more or less representing what the game looks like in fact? Check. Anything else is just extra. Not nearly as good as Cardfight Vanguard, true, but for what it is, it's promising. I think the 5.53 rating is unjust. |
Apr 15, 2020 1:09 AM
#34
Man it'd be really great to have one guy just use like neutral blood or dshift or temptress blood and wreck the sht out of one of these cocky guys lol on like t4. |
Apr 15, 2020 5:10 PM
#35
Loop_Stratos said: As someone who used to play the game I just laugh at how both of them just throws a lone low cost card on endgame. That should only happen with very specific decks, and it's even rarer for it to happen on both sides lmao Ignis Dragon is also an Anime-only card, and it's easy to tell since it has so many good abilities with respectable stats (No-EP evolution even if it's hard to activate, AOE, and +5 attack). I also wonder why anyone would think betting phones is acceptable. Do they not have rules for this? Despite it I still really enjoyed this episode, definitely a lot more compared to Princess Connect's first showing. Ignis Dragon is the only thing I have against this show right now, and probably will stay that way. I also wonder why it's "Luca" instead of "Lucia" like another poster has said. Lol, i'm glad i'm not the only one who has cracked up at them being so overly excited about low cost cards. IVORY DRAGON ATTACKKKK. And i'm like, bruh, you are losing the board and the dragon only does 1 attack... I actually didn't know that Ignis dragon is anime only, no wonder i was confused, failing to recollect it from my memory. True, how come betting phone is fine, when Japan is one of those places that i know of, that doesn't allow monetary gain from playing games. As far as i remember you can't have money as a prize in like an esports game, but you can give out some silly prize like handwashers. Xaven said: Insult to any Shadowverse Player. My body is shivering. My soul is crying. End this misery. I've been playing this game from pretty much as soon as it came out in English and this is the most fun i've had in a while. Something like seeing cards that you've played and seen for all this time, being animated and called out, this feels like a dream. |
Apr 15, 2020 8:31 PM
#36
Lol, this was... amazingly mind blowing lol. I didn't expect to have this much fun and laugh so hard. Before i go into more details.. If you are reading this and you seem to kinda like the anime or/and card games, go ahead and PLAY Shadowverse. You'll most likely like it, it has some outstanding art and free to play friendly. It also has lots of expansions like Grandblue, Princess Connect, Bahamut and you can also change your leader to characters from Re:Zero, Zombieland saga, Fate zero and other animes... The game is free and available on Steam and App store. Hope it will reach at least someone >< It's kinda interesting to see them play it out with absolute classic cards that were the first to come out with the game before any expansions (and some anime only cards), back then game was much simpler. And they are not using some super wombo combo decks, it's more like they are playing tempo decks(where you try to fit mana curve) more of an arena style. That makes sense, you don't want to confuse viewers a lot, and there might be a considerable amount of those players who've abandoned the game after playing it on release, so by showing them something they can remember easier, they might resurrect some of their older player base (only to realize the game is nowhere the way it's used to be, oh no no, please don't tell them) Takuma was playing Sword and pawning everyone which makes sense since Swordcraft is the best at tempo playing back then. And would always on my memory destroy Fairy, in tempo battles, without relying on combos. So Mimori(Fairy player) could be a better player than him but the discrepancy in classes made the differences (we also didnt see the match...). And Dragon the class that MC's been playing, is just as i remember it. You turtle early turns, take damage and then turn it around. It would've been a pretty OP, unstoppable class, but characters only have 20 health, so you can't turtle all that much. Dragoncraft is balanced overall, the reason MC won is because of the anime only card which is way wayyy too busted for its mana. Btw i wonder why does Takuma sound so surprised all the time that MC's been playing a good card? "How is this possible" - isn't it weird, that he doesn't know what some cards do? it's not like MC just used the newly printed card that has never been seen before, really bugs me off :v Takuma challenging everyone, calling them noobs pretty much and that they don't deserve to play is ... odd? and mean as well ofcourse. After all, any game is being carried by casual players who play it for fun and pro, really good players is just a very very minority of it. If everyone actually listened to him, the game would've lost most of it's playerbase, and then i wonder how then would he enjoy his Shadowverse when only elite of the elite would play it, also the game company would not be all too happy lol. Also someone already stated it in the comments, but it really is weird betting phones on the game. Haha, i really wonder why they get so excited calling their 1 mana guys who are literally useless to attack. "CRUSH HIM AXE PIRATE!!!" Also it's always been hilarious to me how 1 mana guys look so strong,but yet so weak. Btw isn't it weird that MC has been on the receiving end, getting his ass whooped on the board (and skipping turn 2 by playing gain empty play point card while Takumi has not skipped A SINGLE TURN), yet his hp is at 10 at turn 7. 10 AT TURN 7... I mean, they might not have traded and just went for each other's leader, then it doesn't explain how MC had no minions in play on turn 7, hmmm... something doesn't add up. Also i bet Takumi now wishes he had a removal in his aggressive deck for that 7 mana card so he doesn't die. EDIT. I'm still mildly triggered that Takuma can't read what the card does and is surprised that the card grows when attacks, yikes... Gotta love me some references... From Cerberus I'll recognize this stupid eggman anywhere lol |
HirugikuApr 15, 2020 8:38 PM
Apr 15, 2020 10:55 PM
#37
Omega_Stone said: I think the 5.53 rating is unjust. That has nothing to do with this show being good or bad though, it's just how the anime community is. From when this anime was announced I KNEW from the very beginning, long before the show was even released, that the whole anime community would dismiss it because it's a kiddy show that's supposed to be about fun. The anime community just doesn't care much for fun shows and maturity is a desired trait in society to the point people strive for all stereotypes of a mature person and watching a kiddy show goes against that. The reason I'm watching Shadowverse despite the anime community is because I don't care about such a dumb umbrella of connotations like "maturity" and also because I like fun shows. Card game anime of course have potential when it comes to tactics of the game but even more than that, from experience, they tend to be really fun when it comes to character interactions. Most card game anime I've seen have been the "come for the card games, stay for the lovable characters" kind and so far, Shadowverse had been fun in that area too. |
psyko-freacApr 16, 2020 12:16 AM
Apr 16, 2020 11:23 AM
#38
MicheleCostOwna said: I've been playing this game from pretty much as soon as it came out in English and this is the most fun i've had in a while. Something like seeing cards that you've played and seen for all this time, being animated and called out, this feels like a dream. I have been playing Shadowverse by a long time too. Few times getting Grandmaster, but back to topic... The story in game is so good. I cried on Luna x Nicola arc. And what we're getting? Random C3 kids playing Shadowverse with cards that doesn't even exist and are op af. Sad. Basically spin off Yu-Gi-Oh!. They had one job and they instead did anime for kids when Shadowverse isn't even for kids. I know that playerbase avarge is young man after teen or adult, but come on, not waste such potential on advertising. Bcs the aniem isn't for anime watcher nor for Shadowverse players... just for kids. |
Apr 16, 2020 12:08 PM
#39
Xaven said: MicheleCostOwna said: I've been playing this game from pretty much as soon as it came out in English and this is the most fun i've had in a while. Something like seeing cards that you've played and seen for all this time, being animated and called out, this feels like a dream. I have been playing Shadowverse by a long time too. Few times getting Grandmaster, but back to topic... The story in game is so good. I cried on Luna x Nicola arc. And what we're getting? Random C3 kids playing Shadowverse with cards that doesn't even exist and are op af. Sad. Basically spin off Yu-Gi-Oh!. They had one job and they instead did anime for kids when Shadowverse isn't even for kids. I know that playerbase avarge is young man after teen or adult, but come on, not waste such potential on advertising. Bcs the aniem isn't for anime watcher nor for Shadowverse players... just for kids. Thanks for sharing your experience, i've been a solo player and never knew anyone who also played the game, so hearing someone's experience is heartwarming and i didn't know it can touch someone as hard as it touched you. I personally wasn't really much into story so i didn't get involved into it after i got my cards. That being said, I think we can approach this from different perspective. Given that they do adapt the actual story, do you really think the adaptation would be deserving of the game story? How often do you watch visual novel's adaptation and see it skip majority of the story which leaves you in despair as you can't do anything but watch everything get ruined. So it might be better that they didn't adapt the story if you look at it that way, now we can laugh and have fun over some of the silliness of the card game, rather than silliness of the adaptation of the story and your warm memories of the story won't get trampled on. |
Apr 21, 2020 8:59 PM
#40
ROFL, this is like Yu-Gi-Oh 5D... MC's main monsters are dragons... Anyways... I actually tried Shadowverse mobile long ago, kinda bored and dropped the game. Quite interesting that it's got an anime now. (tho like 5 other mobile games also got a TV anime this and past year...) |
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Jul 8, 2020 2:16 AM
#41
Not the type of Shadowverse anime I thought it would be. Too much of a kid show and this is not appealing in the least. Other cardfight animes are so much better tbh. |
Oct 29, 2020 3:27 PM
#42
Has a crazy hair, lives with his grandfather, plays card games... Yugi, is that you?! Now I still only watched a single episode from Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens so I can't tell if Shadowverse is a better Yu-Gi-Oh anime than Sevens is. And I don't know anything about the source material, so the anime couldn't offend me in that regard. From the cover I expected a cheap Yu-Gi-Oh ripoff, and what I've got in the first 2 episodes was a fairly entertaining Yu-Gi-Oh ripoff. |
Jan 7, 2022 12:51 AM
#44
I discovered the game on Nintendo Switch before knowing it’s a mobile game and the existence of the anime, so I gave it a try since I liked the first season of Yu Gì Oh! as a kid very much. I may have gotten older, but I didn’t enjoyed this one as I thought I would and the overall ratings are concerning. I’ll keep watching a couple more tho. |
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