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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- More investigations into dream holes... They're assembling the pieces of the murders together that relates to serial killer being able to enter dreams. I have to say, it's a thrilling episode with the amount of mystery that's been revolving this arc/story. The ending is interesting...seems Kiki will have some sort of important role in the upcoming episodes. |
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| Finally, it looks like this wild, convoluted but interesting goose chase is at a definite endgame. Tbh, Kiki being closer to the detectives all this time is a pretty neat revelation, even if it's not something particularly shocking. |
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| Well, the identity if John Walker is not a surprise, I think 80% of us have suspected the chief, but the end though... What is she doing there? What is the chief using her for? I guess that's the last mystery left in the anime now. I'm curious to see how things will turn out in the last episodes. |
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| *sees who the identity of John Walker is this episode* "Well I sure hope somebody picks up that phone, because I FREAKING CALLED IT!!! |
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| John Walker's identity was revealed to be the chief. A lot of people here were right about that. Hondoumachi is becoming my favourite character in this show. Asukai Kiki is alive. I have a bad feeling about this. |
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| That end pretty much shows why Kiki was always in the ID wells by looks of it. A great twist honestly. The anime keeps us on our toes, always wanting next episode. I love it. |
| I was today years old when I realised I had been pronouncing this show name wrong for three months. I'd been saying "Eye dee" Invaded instead of ID as in the id wells lmao. It wasn't until I saw the katakana that I realised that. The John Walker reveal was kind of disappointing. Him removing the previous head investigator, closed eyes and his general demeanour made it extremely obvious that he was the mastermind. I was hoping there was some kind of twist like someone else really unsuspecting was Johnny, but alas I was disappointed. Maybe the real John Walker was the friends we made along the way. Kiki's origins and her backstory is now the main mystery for me. Kiki looks like she has legitimate supernatural abilities which don't really vibe with the general theme of the show, but I'll be ok with it if it's done properly. Next episode should be quite interesting with seeing how the chief responds to his cover being blown. Overall really enjoyed the episode and have been loving the show since day 1. From the first episode, I said that it was a Nolan film in anime form and it's certainly lived up to that expectation. Just hope it can land the ending properly to solidify itself as a classic. Just wish people in the mainstream anime community weren't so sleep on this. It's criminally slept on. |
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| It doesn't matter if the John Walker's identity was obvious. It's the way they uncovered it which was really entertaining. |
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KatsutoSaki said: It doesn't matter if the John Walker's identity was obvious. It's the way they uncovered it which was really entertaining. Totally agreed. John Walker's identity wasn't much of a twist since the chief always was the most suspicious one but it was still great cause the way they unveiled it was amazing. Well now it's confirmed Asukai Kiki really has her powers in real world. So I guess it was her powers that lead to Mizuhanome's creation. I wonder if we'll get any explanation for her power or it will be just a supernatural ability. |
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| Another good episode, more talk than actions, but I feel we're gonna get a lot of action in the next episode anyways. I'm sure most of us had picked up on John Walker being Hayaseura but like with any good mystery novel, the best part is watching how our characters piece things together and unravel the mystery behind the answer. Even before we had the clues of appearance between JW and Hayaseura, it always tends to be the seemingly innocuous ones who are pulling the strings from the shadows. I'm interested to see where the next episode goes from here, considering the power has been cut to the Mizuhanome and Kiki's presence seems to spell disaster for the rest of the staff of Kura and the brilliant detectives. Also considering there is the fact that Kiki had rendered 13 nurses unconscious at the same time and disappeared from the hospital, that's worrisome. |
SakuraSymphoniaMar 8, 2020 9:53 AM
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| So he expects Kiki to go rampage on everyone as she did on the hospital, or even worse since we don't know for sure what she can do. Not surprised about the revelation, but as others mentioned here, it's more about the path than it's about the destination. |
| I was right about John Walker. The anime did a good job showing little hints about the man, but I recognised him the moment I saw him. But, the journey was quite thrilling!! Blimey! Kaeru-chan is right there!! I really want the characters to return to Anaido's ID. It was the most interesting one by far! I hope this gets a second season as well. |
| An interesting episode as we come to the climax. So, as we all knew, the chief was John Walker. However, seeing the way they revealed it this episode, I think the fact that we the audience already knew that, was the point. We were supposed to already know this. It's why they didn't make a big deal about the reveal. They just continued on and we now have a bigger issue involving Kiki and what's going to happen to our trio of killer detectives. So we get a sort of clearer picture when it comes to Anaido/Fukada. So, really, he wasn't in on all this with John Walker, but Walker was manipulating him. He wanted Fukada dead and Fukada wanted to die so he played along even though he knew he was being manipulated. It turns out that Fukada wasn't dumb, but instead purposefully kept dying in the well because every time he went in, his OCD Arithmomania would come back and drive him crazy. However, he had no way out in Sakaido's well since there was no lightning, so he wanted Sakaido to kill him. I actually totally forgot that they clued us into Fukada's arithmomania several times, with his hand gestures and back in the first couple of episodes, the walls of his room were covered in numbers. Our three detectives did well, Handomachi taking over all of Narihisago's earlier research and notes to figure out John Walker's signature. And then after interviewing Fukada, she was able put all the missing pieces together. Although, I have to say that that makes the well staff morons, if they didn't think to interview and ask Fukada about John Walker before now. They probably could have figured this out a lot sooner. So, the storm really didn't amount to much as Sakaido was able to figure out to use the clue of Kaeru as a focal point to get the staff to see them and pull them out. We also see how the particles were planted using one of Narihisago's pictures. But now the Chief has them all trapped and a cybernetic? Kiki, who has been the center of the facility all this time. |
| So Togo and Momoki have that kind of relationship. Their reactions where priceless when Togo said that the picture was not in the room "when she visited before". Amazing how professionals they are, there were absolutely no signs of it, especially when Momoki was arrested. |
Leonhart93Mar 8, 2020 11:08 AM
| Wow so the chief was indeed JW all along (not that everyone already predicted that though). I really liked how Hondomachi deduced that, felt really nice without being too confusing Also, was there more to Sarina talking about visiting Momoki's house or is it just me? Like the way everyone reacted to that made it seem like some big scoop lmao Can't wait to see how this all wraps up |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Short_Circut said: Wow so the chief was indeed JW all along (not that everyone already predicted that though). I really liked how Hondomachi deduced that, felt really nice without being too confusing Also, was there more to Sarina talking about visiting Momoki's house or is it just me? Like the way everyone reacted to that made it seem like some big scoop lmao Can't wait to see how this all wraps up Very straight-laced unmarried woman visits the dormitory of a very straight-laced unmarried man... Of course the only possible conclusion was that there was a VERY personal reason why she was there. |
bestkatalyn said: Short_Circut said: Wow so the chief was indeed JW all along (not that everyone already predicted that though). I really liked how Hondomachi deduced that, felt really nice without being too confusing Also, was there more to Sarina talking about visiting Momoki's house or is it just me? Like the way everyone reacted to that made it seem like some big scoop lmao Can't wait to see how this all wraps up Very straight-laced unmarried woman visits the dormitory of a very straight-laced unmarried man... Of course the only possible conclusion was that there was a VERY personal reason why she was there. yea I thought it was romance related as well, hell I even lowkey shipped them early on lol. just don't want to come to conclusions until the very end xd |
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| I fucking Knew it that it was The Old bastard Good Episode 7/10 |
SaiDxvLightMar 17, 2020 6:36 PM
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| Kinda had a feeling the Chief was John Walker. A lot was pointing to him. But we finally going to get Hondoumachi and Sakaido team up and I am HYPED for that! |
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| A relatively straightforward episode for once! Either we’re closing in on the final conclusion or we’re just supposed to feel that way so they can pull the rug out from under us again. I’d be happy with either way, personally. The mystery element has been done well in the show. |
 The moment I saw him....  I already knew that he is John Walker..... |
| We all called this but the build up was amazing regardless! -Aincrad- said: Well, the identity if John Walker is not a surprise, I think 80% of us have suspected the chief, but the end though... What is she doing there? What is the chief using her for? I guess that's the last mystery left in the anime now. I'm curious to see how things will turn out in the last episodes. I think she was the core of the well machine..but why she got extracted I have no idea. But she does have some actual psychic powers so she will be used to attack the others I guess. I hope she will be saved. |
| I'm still surprised this was 20 mins long, it felt like 5 tbh |
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| Well, John Walker is the Chief. I'm not surprised lol. Why is he using Asukai Kiki/Kaede-chan for. I'm curious. |
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| yep as expected the Chief is John Walker but the execution is great lol Togo and Momoki got a romantic relationship eh |
| damn that was really something... the chief was the culprit...figures |
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| Well, they went with the most predictable/cliche path after all. Not with just who John Walker is, but also with the big secret of Kiki. Pretty lame after such a great and unique showing otherwise. Hopefully things get interesting again |
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Nurguburu said: Well, John Walker is the Chief. I'm not surprised lol. Why is he using Asukai Kiki/Kaede-chan for. I'm curious. She's obviously the key to the ID Wells. |
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Kougeru said: Well, they went with the most predictable/cliche path after all. Not with just who John Walker is, but also with the big secret of Kiki. Pretty lame after such a great and unique showing otherwise. Hopefully things get interesting again Well, since the reveal of John Walker wasn't even supposed to be a big thing. As others have pointed it out, they didn't even make a big deal out of it. Like Handomachi called him, and we immediately saw his face, there wasn't any mouth shot and then slow zoom out effect for example, they just showed him, and immediately moved forward. This anime isn't about the big mystery of John Walker's identity. |
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SaltyReinn said: Okay, so we all called it that the chief was John Walker. One thing that I don't understand at all is why did Handomachi call him to tell him that she knows that he is John Walker. That literally gives him enough time to prepare for a retaliation against them. I guess if she actually used her head, then there only would be one additional episode. She called in fake world, not in real world, so chief wasn't alerted by that |
-Aincrad- said: Kougeru said: Well, they went with the most predictable/cliche path after all. Not with just who John Walker is, but also with the big secret of Kiki. Pretty lame after such a great and unique showing otherwise. Hopefully things get interesting again Well, since the reveal of John Walker wasn't even supposed to be a big thing. As others have pointed it out, they didn't even make a big deal out of it. Like Handomachi called him, and we immediately saw his face, there wasn't any mouth shot and then slow zoom out effect for example, they just showed him, and immediately moved forward. This anime isn't about the big mystery of John Walker's identity. True but I didn't even find the execution done well. That's why I'm hoping something more surprising comes up soon |
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| There are two episodes left. There has to be more to John Walker than this. |
| Anyone ever see the 90s movie Pi? I think Anaido may be a reference to the main character from that. Its about arithmamania and drills entering heads to some degree |
| John's Walker identity revealed : a bit predictable at some point but it became confirmed ! We shall see how the show will be concluded |
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| that was fucking amazing, kinda generic it was the chief after all but as I said before in episode 1 this is Minority Report : The animation |
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KatsutoSaki said: It doesn't matter if the John Walker's identity was obvious. It's the way they uncovered it which was really entertaining. I definitely agree. I was kinda disappointed because almost everyone knew that he's John Walker, but I liked how Hondomachi figured it out in a well inside a well. Two more episodes to wrap this up, hopefully it won't go downhill from here. Some questions left for the anime to answer: - Why does Kaeru look like Kiki Asukai? What is the purpose of the similar appearance? - What is John Walker using Kiki for? What is the true purpose (if there is one) of these ID wells in the first place? - What is John Walker's motive? Kougeru said: Nurguburu said: Well, John Walker is the Chief. I'm not surprised lol. Why is he using Asukai Kiki/Kaede-chan for. I'm curious. She's obviously the key to the ID Wells. Well that's obvious. But I'm pretty sure the question is why he's using her for the ID wells. As in why would he need her to make the ID wells; why they were made in the first place, to be more specific. |
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