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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Interesting to see even more about Richard's past. At this point, the character has been a cornerstone of the show that the more we know about him, the better. And we got a case about an aquamarine stone. I kinda like the variety here. |
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| Last episode extra info: I posted this in last episode’s discussion thread rather late, so maybe some didn’t see it, but the design of the lobby where Seigi and Richard were talking and mentinoning the whole kiss analogy is based on a wedding chapel irl. Make of that what you will. Edit: the wedding chapel in this episode is also based on a real-life one! On this episode: is it just me, or did the editing and flow of this episode seem off? Particularly around Seigi’s dream sequences... Anyway, this episode Tanimoto suddenly announces that she’s going for an omiai (arranged meeting with a potential marriage partner, FYI) with Homura-san - if you’ve forgotten who that is, it was Mami-san’s ex-fiance from back in episode 2. Small world, huh? But Tanimoto’s reason for going to an omiai is a little bit different from other people; instead of the usual reasons like wanting to get married and have a family, she wanted to get married so that others would stop pestering her for a relationship. Interestingly, she also shared that she doesn’t understand what it means to love someone romantically; this has led to novel readers wondering if she’s aromantic asexual. Of course Seigi, who likes her, experiences a nightmare of her in a wedding dress getting married to Homura. You know, if Seigi was a bit less honest and a bit more conniving, we would probably have gotten that trope where Seigi proposes fake dating so Tanimoto doesn’t get more propositions, but Seigi is too pure for that, and decides to support her... or so he says. I laughed at that scene where he bought so many bags of desserts and gave the receipts to Richard; I want to do retail therapy and have someone else pick up my tab too!! Thank goodness Richard manages to convince Seigi to talk to Tanimoto once again, through telling a story of his past. (   Young Richard was certainly very beautiful though, oops sorry Richard...) Richard’s story is a sad one, he fell in love but in the end it was ended because of his status... though Richard seems to imply that the inheritance was an excuse. Still, he ultimately didn’t say anything to stop the breakup, and regrets it till today, and doesn’t want Seigi to share the same regret.This episode ends with one heck of a cliffhanger, eh? Richard not telling Seigi Etranger was going to be closed, suddenly disappearing, not contactable, and at the airport...? Looks like a storm is coming. What will Seigi do? Find out in the next episode! Other miscellaneous bits and thoughts: - was this in Venice? (Put under spoilers so as to not make this post longer than it already is) edit: I stand corrected, it's the Bridge of Sighs in Cambridge. - FLAGS FLAGS FLAGS THIS IS A GODDAMN BIG FLAG  - someone else noticed this actually, but lol “BL007” flight - that’s not even possible in reality for commercial flights (spoilered for length) New PV includes teasers for upcoming episodes released today, introduces new characters and provides some spoilers for the next episode at least... So it’s up to you if you want to watch it. I am excited to see Matsukaze Masaya (Kyouya in Ouran) and Kaji Yuki though, that was a nice surprise to get. |
starlightshineFeb 28, 2020 2:43 AM
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| fuck man, Homura is the true victim of this series. First fiancee turned out to be a lesbian and now he's being forced into a marriage with an old friend who he doesn't really want to marry. #justiceforHomura like how disheartening must it be to not only cancel 1, but 2 potential marriages by none of your own fault? And it's not like Homura did anything wrong either. Man just wants to get married but noooooooooo, any girl he gets paired with ends up having an existential crisis, and then he has to part ways with them after investing his precious time (cause after all, he is a salaryman or smth) with them. And then just when he decides screw it 'I'll just go with the childhood friend route', asshat Seigi comes in with his "just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right" attitude and literally peer pressures his soon to be forced bride into not getting married smh. Lets not even talk about how he took it though, man already realized he's forever doomed within this series, but he still has the audacity to smile and accept his fate. what a G |
Short_CircutFeb 27, 2020 11:08 AM
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Richard is leaving ? I want to know why |
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Short_Circut said: And it's not like Homura did anything wrong either. Because being Homura is suffering |
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| oh come on don't give me another cliffhanger |
| What?! Totally didn't see that happening. It was sudden. I'm curious to know what happened. On one hand, Homura-san said it was temporary, but on the other... it's still oo sudden, and Richard would have said it to him. Ooof... |
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Short_Circut said: fuck man, Homura is the true victim of this series. First fiancee turned out to be a lesbian and now he's being forced into a marriage with an old friend who he doesn't really want to marry. #justiceforHomura literally #justiceforHomura |
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| Okay, this was good and impactful. Seigi has had a crush on Tanimoto for a while, but I guess it's safe to say that she only sees him as a friend. She once had another friend with who she had fun like she seems to have with Seigi, but this "friend" wanted something else. Something she couldn't give him. I guess the same would happen if Seigi confessed, she wouldn't be able to reciprocate it. She hasn't fallen in love yet, and that's why she thought that people would know that she isn't "available" anymore if she were married. She thought it would make things easier. And this is where Seigi comes in. He didn't force his feelings on her, he just asked her to not marry like this because she might yet fall in love with someone someday. To be fair, he had already helped her to see things clearer after that talk, and she could see that he meant it too. That he was someone who was thinking about her before thinking about himself. To be honest I kind of wished that her marriage would work out before knowing how she felt, and I feel embarrassed for it. But I do believe this outcome was beautiful. She didn't marry, and they didn't become a couple because neither of these things were supposed to happen. Not at this stage at least. And then there's Richard. We got another glimpse of his past, but I can't believe he did that. Disappearing for an indeterminate period of time without properly saying goodbye? As if to sever the connection they have... This is... Sad. |
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| It looks like Richard is on his way back to London, but what was the reason for leaving without saying goodbye to Seigi? |
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| Did Tanimoto just friendzoned Seigi??? If anything, Seigi has an interest in her since early on in the series, and yeah (again) safe to say that their "date" didn't end in the most amicable way, more than Tanimoto going for a marriage meeting, and them being just friends seems just right. The Aquamarine, or the Angel's Stone, seems like the perfect gemstone for said girl. To think that Homura would show up in a literally forced stigma of blind dates, Seigi definitely isn't happy at all. Even more so is Tanimoto's idea of marriage, a mere, mutual human like a gem on display for all to see but with no iron (understanding). In the end, Seigi can do nothing but support her with Homura, for the said male having went through a failed relationship, and now a forced marriage. Machiavelli's quote "We regret the things we don't do more than the things we did." perfectly sums this episode so well, more than reflecting Seigi's unassuming character behaviour to not be true to himself and with Richard's pull, he pushed himself to face the truth while taking an L and helped both sides realize their true selves. But the bigger L that Seigi didn't know...is Richard leaving for indiscriminate reasons behind his back. What truly is going on with him other than his past? BIG OOF... |
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| They're really going to leave us hanging like that for a week huh? |
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| This episode makes me feel like Tanimoto maybe an aroace. I hope she is. I just want her to stay as a sister-like character, and keep a distance from our ship. Richard is leaving, but I don't care much about that because he can't really disappear from the story due to plot reasons. In the story about the beautiful boy, Richard never used any pronouns, and pronouns are the only way you can tell a person's gender in Japanese language. So I can still hope that his ex was a guy, despite the anime showing a girl. |
| So... Tanimoto-san is aromantic and nobody can change my mind on that And Richard, don't play games with my heart like this, come back I feel kinda bad for Homura, I hope he finds a nice partner |
TallManStan said: I really hope that Tanimoto stays aroace. This episode didn't do a good job of reinforcing that ideal as a positive, at least from the perspective of the two leads. I don't know how much I actually ship the leads, but I do hope they end up together in some capacity. Yes, well it didn't show it as something negative either. I hope they don't try to "fix" her |
| This episode focusing almost entirely on their personal issues like Seigi's altruism (so true was the reflective observation dropped into the dialogue that most people do even ostensibly selfless things for selfish reasons, to be seen a certain way by others, but not Seigi), indecision, and (potentially) unrequited attraction; Richard's backstory, and the overall Tanimoto romance subplot dominating the episode in lieu of a new customer/gem-related case caught me a bit off-guard. The plotline around this crush seemed very mellow and in the background up until this episode, and didn't expect focus to be placed on it since it always seemed like an afterthought. I can never really feel the sense of getting invested in such a underdeveloped romance within eight episodes and I've always thought either Tanimoto's characterization was pretty limited and bland or maybe she was just a plot device. I do like the theme of the analogy which continues to be drawn between the singular uniqueness of a gem and a human being though. In line with that, to really drive the point home about human diversity and not just racial/ethnic/overtly cultural diversity, but sexual minorities and just portrayal of persons who want something different out of their lives than the majority of the population, maybe Tanimoto will prove to be an aromantic and/or asexual after all. Especially since they were bold enough to have a lesbian in the second episode. And that was a real last minute bombshell cliffhanger at the end. Where did Richard go? Does anyone else get the sense he's fleeing debt collectors or corrupt customs officials? He's obviously on some kind of shaky legal status residing in Japan and operating his shop and there are powerful and influential people out to get him, maybe because of competition on the domestic or international gem market. |
WatchTillTandavaFeb 28, 2020 9:45 PM
| So finally Seigi was able to convince Tanimoto to call off the wedding, so given that she took the Aquamarine I'm guessing that she accepts Seigi's feelings.... So, Richard has left the bldg.......I wonder if it is to face his curse????/ |
| Well Seigi was atleast able to stop Tanimoto from marrying. Better luck next time on confessing lolz. Also take a hint already Tanimoto. |
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| Nice to see an episode more focused on Seigi and Tanimoto since their relation was a subplot until now Didn't expect Richard to do that at the end there, curious to see what is going on |
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| As an aro myself, I really felt when she said that someone has confessed to her before and she has realised, that huh just being friends is not enough? It's something that has always plagued me, the worry that one day the relationship that's already there won't be enough, that someone is going to want what I can't give them...had friendships turned awkward. That's why I find everyone telling Seigi to confess to her pretty insensitive...confessing after everything she told him would be comparable to "I didn't listen to a word you said/ I don't care about the complicated feelings you shared with me!" I don't know if she is aro canonically but basically what she was saying is right from aroace books...well, at least she obviously doesn't like Seigi romantically and how would her accepting his confession be different from an arranged marriage. At least he didn't confess directly but I guess he is hoping that one day she will get "fixed" and fall in love with him. Better move on. Homura-san is a good man, deserves a happy ending:') |
| Seigi ain't giving up heh |
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