Ore wo Suki nano wa Omae dake ka yo Episode 3 Discussion

aqexpredator said:


Yeah, I noticed, glad someone else did too. This bit of dialogue felt majorly out of place. We've already seen that Sun is an absolute bastard for trying to take revenge on his best friend - so this just seems unnecessary. Unless he really is just that bad, although he makes an apology at the end when he could've just stayed quiet, if he was that true of a cunt.

I hated his character regardless of that line of dialogue, not sure what the author was thinking with it.

NaturalPerm said:
feels like the writers expect us to forgive Sun for trying to rape librarian girl but uuuuh no you can't redeem that

Metalsludge said:


Perhaps something is a bit lost in translation here, so to speak. Having watched some anime from olden times, when sudden sexual violence was a bit more common and generally darker themes were too, I think this sort of scene may reflect something that is often present in anime, and perhaps the overall culture's storytelling, that is hard to pin down, but definitely a noticeable subtext. A climactic scene in old anime films often involved the villains making a sexual threat of some sort or another towards a female character, or that otherwise working its way into the plot. Then something (usually) intervenes to save her.

The notion that, something might happen, when a male and female are entirely alone is still sort of a thing in many cultures. In my school days, I learned that, in some countries, it's even part of the penal code that if a male and female are left alone, one can assume, in the legal sense, that they might have had sexual relations together.

Of course, in modern times it's usually not thought of that way anymore in most places. But anime sort of plays around a bit in a story-space where traditional ideas still hold a weird sway. This is actually not so unusual in storytelling across many cultures, as Western sitcoms, for example, were often behind cultural changes, tending to depict a certain template for the nuclear family situation that didn't change much over many years, even as society still did change.

Likewise, anime has a lot of stuff in it that can appear anachronistic if one were expecting more realism.

The average marrying age is finally getting older in Japan, yet in anime, any gal over the ripe old age of 25 is depicted as a humorous "hag" who is super nervous about her prospects. (Yes, there are exceptions, but they only tend to prove the rule by how much they stand out.) And in the age of the Internet, do we really believe that typical boys all need to have girly mags hidden under their beds to this day to get a glimpse of risque photos, like they always seem to in anime? Even if such mags still had more of a market share in Japan than in most places, it wouldn't make sense for it to be such a constant in boys' rooms these days.

In Anime Land, society hasn't changed much in about thirty, or even forty, years. People still grow up in small communities and have a childhood friend who they may just end up marrying later, or at least we get an echo of that idea in the form of the perky childhood friend trope (which appears, albeit satirically, in this very anime). This anime may be partly about subverting such tropes, but it still plays along with them in some ways too.

So, from that point of view, using someone being a bit rapey as way of indicating their lack of character is not so shocking, as it just fits a certain old story trope from an earlier time, and helps work in a female being threatened in the usual way, and the hero saving her, just like old times. Yay!

Metalsludge said:


Perhaps something is a bit lost in translation here, so to speak. Having watched some anime from olden times, when sudden sexual violence was a bit more common and generally darker themes were too, I think this sort of scene may reflect something that is often present in anime, and perhaps the overall culture's storytelling, that is hard to pin down, but definitely a noticeable subtext. A climactic scene in old anime films often involved the villains making a sexual threat of some sort or another towards a female character, or that otherwise working its way into the plot. Then something (usually) intervenes to save her.

The notion that, something might happen, when a male and female are entirely alone is still sort of a thing in many cultures. In my school days, I learned that, in some countries, it's even part of the penal code that if a male and female are left alone, one can assume, in the legal sense, that they might have had sexual relations together.

Of course, in modern times it's usually not thought of that way anymore in most places. But anime sort of plays around a bit in a story-space where traditional ideas still hold a weird sway. This is actually not so unusual in storytelling across many cultures, as Western sitcoms, for example, were often behind cultural changes, tending to depict a certain template for the nuclear family situation that didn't change much over many years, even as society still did change.

Likewise, anime has a lot of stuff in it that can appear anachronistic if one were expecting more realism.

The average marrying age is finally getting older in Japan, yet in anime, any gal over the ripe old age of 25 is depicted as a humorous "hag" who is super nervous about her prospects. (Yes, there are exceptions, but they only tend to prove the rule by how much they stand out.) And in the age of the Internet, do we really believe that typical boys all need to have girly mags hidden under their beds to this day to get a glimpse of risque photos, like they always seem to in anime? Even if such mags still had more of a market share in Japan than in most places, it wouldn't make sense for it to be such a constant in boys' rooms these days.

In Anime Land, society hasn't changed much in about thirty, or even forty, years. People still grow up in small communities and have a childhood friend who they may just end up marrying later, or at least we get an echo of that idea in the form of the perky childhood friend trope (which appears, albeit satirically, in this very anime). This anime may be partly about subverting such tropes, but it still plays along with them in some ways too.

So, from that point of view, using someone being a bit rapey as way of indicating their lack of character is not so shocking, as it just fits a certain old story trope from an earlier time, and helps work in a female being threatened in the usual way, and the hero saving her, just like old times. Yay!

Dogii said:
Also Himawari is probably one of my favorite character designs for this year's anime.

Hitoribotchan said:
What I wonder to this episode:
Why Pansy is nearly naked just to reveal her true form?
Even normally people wear some underwear or some shirt behind their uniform school.

Maou_heika said:
I gave it a shot since it didn't have an ecchi tag, I love the comedy so far but I wish they could keep a bit low on the fan-service.

Usopp8000 said:
Ok, for a minute there at the end I thought I saw Sakurajima Mai in this anime Lol
"Who knew that when a girl removing her glasses she becomes 10 times Prettier?"
but now THE ANIME.
Really good episode, Sanshokuin is THE WAIFU.

Sun chan deserves of what he did! "The Sin and the Punishment" lol