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Oct 17, 2019 4:18 AM
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Quality of animation and censorship, directing are the primary reason why some anime fans are upset. They believe that anime isn't doing justice to the source material.
The best bet for those that are upset is to wait for the BD version. That is hopefully going to fix most of the issues that they are having.
Oct 17, 2019 4:27 AM

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It's too easy to put in blaming most people on this site/forum. Same as getting other shows involved that are hyped because they excel in one part of the show, could be animation could be story etc.etc.

First off, if something is shit it would not get hyped in the first place. So hating on mainstream cause they get more attention is just trying to be an edge lord. Nothing more, nothing les. The fact you did not enjoy a main stream show does not make it bad. If a shows try's to excel in one specific thing, then that is probably their gimmick, if it becomes wildly popular. It did a great fucking job at that.

Now the problem with seven sins is that it was on the hype train, it is a mainstream show that excelled at several things. Not animation cause that was good and just right to have a nice feeling to watch it. But the story and the balls it had to just show emotions in a hard way, someone dying (or making us believe they are dying) with blood, desperation and emotion in general. and also the gruesome (gruesome is meant in a emotional way and depicting wounds and blades cutting people burning etcetc) way battles were fought gave it a lead above shows that cut corners when it comes to fighting or inflicting wounds. This gave a great boost story and animation wise, since we tends to fill in spots with hype and emotion so much you won’t even recognise the almost still frame fighting it sometimes had.

Now they gone and cut that off, so what’s left is a great story, with fewer emotions and less balls. That’s just not right when you watched a show who gave everything before and then just shits on the viewer due to network and animation studio changes. I mean what do you expect that happened ? you gave people a nice new car and then you just went on and took all the cool features off it had in the first place... by saying oh you want the whole thing? just wait a few decades when we finally decide to release a Blu-ray.. that’s just a dumb decision.
Oct 17, 2019 5:50 AM

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Lmao anime only people honestly have no clue. As a manga reader it’s disappointing to see such a great and popular series receive poor treatment from an anime studio that’s why most people are mad. A rushed 3rd season was uncalled for especially when it’s literally at its most important part. This is a shounen series... most of which aren’t watched because of their plot but because of their fight scenes so why would u want to settle for average animation? This entire 3rd season will be comprised of non stop brutal fighting having censored blood in a series that’s actually graphic in the manga truly takes away from the seriousness of its source material. Hopefully it’ll be fixed in the blu-ray tho.
Oct 17, 2019 6:52 AM

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The plot for this series has been in the dumpster with very few actual good moments since the end of season 1. I think blaming the Studio is an understatement - the series itself is just overwhelmingly uninspired and drull.
Having it look like garbage as it dies doesn't help
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Oct 17, 2019 6:58 AM

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The characters and plot are mediocre though... It doesn't even have anything to fall back on like Golden Kamuy had. It had production flaws, but at least it had good writing/characters with an okay production.
Oct 17, 2019 9:34 AM
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Kirito_online said:
todd2580 said:



lmao studio change isn't the problem it's the Schedule dude Wit Studio work on hard schedule but that's due to having great animators while J.C.Staff's staff on OPM S2 you can say it wasn't the main one it's the secondary ones (range from good to normal animators) since the studio's top animators were busy with other stuff already and also the director of S2 was busy with an OVA before it but DEEN is outsourcing NoT S3 fully for one reason they're fully booked with other stuff from the beginning of the year and they're a studio which rely on outsourcing which can be good and bad (if the animators weren't given enough time) Marvy Jack is a small studio and outscoring studios while are not bad but if they were having only normal animators with limited time the result won't be good unless they have some few good animators..
I get what you're saying, but why does a Studio take on a Great Show with Massive Fanbase and a Hit Selling Manga just to screw it with their 'can't be helped' incompetence to Bring the Same Great Animation the previous Seasons Had to this One; do they seek hate and less stales piled up by the loss of interest in the Show all at once?



Factors and circumstances i can say.
Oct 17, 2019 9:35 AM
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Brandon2149 said:
The characters and plot are mediocre though... It doesn't even have anything to fall back on like Golden Kamuy had. It had production flaws, but at least it had good writing/characters with an okay production.


the CGi bear wasn't bad but it was just so realistic...
Oct 18, 2019 7:41 AM

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todd2580 said:
Kirito_online said:
I get what you're saying, but why does a Studio take on a Great Show with Massive Fanbase and a Hit Selling Manga just to screw it with their 'can't be helped' incompetence to Bring the Same Great Animation the previous Seasons Had to this One; do they seek hate and less stales piled up by the loss of interest in the Show all at once?



Factors and circumstances i can say.
I can say for sure that production committee should be fully aware of what a Studio can do with their project, and given how Studio Deen performed they were not up to the task I can say that.
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seven deadly sins is an amazing show but they kind of ruined it with the animation and slow pace. I hope it will get better.
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Oct 18, 2019 10:43 AM
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Kirito_online said:
todd2580 said:



Factors and circumstances i can say.
I can say for sure that production committee should be fully aware of what a Studio can do with their project, and given how Studio Deen performed they were not up to the task I can say that.



well...yeah DEEN is having that show too this season

and it's Outburst Dreamer Boys which it's the in-house anime for them this season

and also the reboot of classic light novel adaptation Sorcerous Stabber Orphen with Pro I.G director which got delayed to Winter 2020

the committee wanted it in less than a year and DEEN was overbooked in advance and they aren't a big studio in size even if they're old so yeah they're outsourcing it fully to Marvy Jack and managing the production process and that’s why this season looks like a pretty face without much animation sequences but at least the art style is good in times but in other times it's derpy lol
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Oct 20, 2019 5:12 AM
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Welcome to 2019. The year where the only thing that matters is animation. Screw characters and plot . If a mediocre show has good animation it will be talked about to no end while if a very good show with good character and plot has decent but jot amazing animation it will be cinsidered garbage
The abimation is actually pretty good . The fight scenes are as good as always the only thing some idiots can think about is white blood which is not even an issue and i don't see why people got mad over it.

You are wrong and you should repent on that notion. If you were there for the other season, the previous one, you would have seen how much effort was put both into animation and opening. This time around no effort. You are talking about community when you are not a part of, nor you understand what the community is.
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Finally someone actually is not brain dead in the anime community. Like I'm grateful for just having another season unlike some anime producers who just have 12 episodes and decide to "fuck you read the manga". I mean yeah sure white blood kinda wierd but doesnt really matter to me.

This is where lies the difference between us and you. We would rather wait longer for a quality series, one which will go down in history, rather than have just something to consume and pretend it was worthwhile. The general outlook.
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Oct 20, 2019 7:07 AM

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The year where the only thing that matters is animation. Screw characters and plot . Demon Slayer is one example.

2019 is the worst year of anime.
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The year where the only thing that matters is animation. Screw characters and plot . Demon Slayer is one example.

2019 is the worst year of anime.

I hate Kimetsu no Yaiba as every other developed, educated viewer, but there is a major problem with the animation in this series. Or rather, lack of it. Forget the quality, they are re-using frames and moves. So far. This is simply insulting to the quality and diligence of people who made the first and second season of Nantasu no Taizai.
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AlphaOmegaKnight said:
The year where the only thing that matters is animation. Screw characters and plot . Demon Slayer is one example.

2019 is the worst year of anime.

Of course animation matters, because it's ANIME rating for a reason and It has been for long time. Remember umineko? The plot and characters are really good, too bad the anime did injustice. Same thing with white album. Let's not forget people rated tales of zestria quite good because ufotable created it.
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LalA_12 said:
AlphaOmegaKnight said:
The year where the only thing that matters is animation. Screw characters and plot . Demon Slayer is one example.

2019 is the worst year of anime.

Of course animation matters, because it's ANIME rating for a reason and It has been for long time. Remember umineko? The plot and characters are really good, too bad the anime did injustice. Same thing with white album. Let's not forget people rated tales of zestria quite good because ufotable created it.


exactly this. some ppl bashing KnY and white-knighting NNT because they think animation is unrelated for ANIME, smh
Oct 21, 2019 9:27 AM
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LEsson : Find the reason u watch the anime, make sure it's not becoz the score this site showing to us.
Oct 21, 2019 9:47 AM

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Here we go again, KnY is mentioned even here,like how mediocre and generic and etc it is

You really hate that anime, don't you?

Ahh man I noticed you on KnY forums before and you've been annoyed about people like this so I'm just going to pass something from one KnY fan to another.
Leave these people to their hating man. If they want to hate then let them hate. I do not think being talking to them is going to change the way they think and may even get them to be even bigger haters.
I think the hate is stupid too unless they hate KnY because they do not like the anime out of taste but if they're so hellbent on their hating then no amount of rational reasoning is going to get through to them.
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Oct 21, 2019 9:48 AM

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One Punch Man Season 2 all over again. Studio and animation changes and everyone throws a tantrum because it's not exactly the same as before. Just be glad it got another season, I know I am.

I saw something similar with season 2 of Fairy Tail as well. That one I actually agree with, but more because I wasn't really into some of the filler or even some of the main arcs.
Oct 21, 2019 10:30 AM

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Aaaaah, my favorite show has a bad score, this is unfair.

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Laughs in Kemurimusa
Kemono Friends is a better one dude. But you know in the west they never get popular
Oct 22, 2019 10:33 AM

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Zaikko said:
Finally someone actually is not brain dead in the anime community. Like I'm grateful for just having another season unlike some anime producers who just have 12 episodes and decide to "fuck you read the manga". I mean yeah sure white blood kinda wierd but doesnt really matter to me.
well actually you are right.



Feb 22, 2020 3:14 AM

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Why do people talk like animations doesn't matter much to make a good anime. Anime = animation lol, it matters more if the anime is an action one. If you do not need a good animation, you should just read the manga. I don't watch anime as often as I used to anymore and I don't really care about which studio is doing which anime. But this anime, I was able to notice the horrible animations just from watching the first few minutes of Episode 1 which had me look at MAL to realize that the studio had changed.
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Ukim said:
Why do people talk like animations doesn't matter much to make a good anime. Anime = animation lol, it matters more if the anime is an action one. If you do not need a good animation, you should just read the manga. I don't watch anime as often as I used to anymore and I don't really care about which studio is doing which anime. But this anime, I was able to notice the horrible animations just from watching the first few minutes of Episode 1 which had me look at MAL to realize that the studio had changed.


The thing is, the manga ain't any better.


Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever!
Feb 22, 2020 3:53 AM

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Ha, get a load of this guy, he thinks that Nanatsu no Taizai is a "very good show with good character and plot". Almost all acclaimed Madhouse adaptations have mediocre animation so you're wrong.
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Ukim said:
Why do people talk like animations doesn't matter much to make a good anime. Anime = animation lol, it matters more if the anime is an action one. If you do not need a good animation, you should just read the manga. I don't watch anime as often as I used to anymore and I don't really care about which studio is doing which anime. But this anime, I was able to notice the horrible animations just from watching the first few minutes of Episode 1 which had me look at MAL to realize that the studio had changed.

Ah yes that's why the original Berserk anime adaptation is so liked... oh wait
Feb 22, 2020 11:23 AM
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What I don't understand is how garbage like Dragon Ball Super not once dropped below 7 in its entire run.
Feb 27, 2020 12:38 PM

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So people are considered idiots for having eyes now.

Garbage animation and art for an action anime does equal shit anime.

If you only care about the story and you dont mind very ugly art and still shots why do you even bother watching the anime, just read the manga
Feb 27, 2020 9:23 PM

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Animation matters. End of story.
Mar 15, 2020 4:04 AM

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Score is now below 6, boys!

Mar 15, 2020 9:09 AM
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NameLessMofo said:
So people are considered idiots for having eyes now.

Garbage animation and art for an action anime does equal shit anime.

If you only care about the story and you dont mind very ugly art and still shots why do you even bother watching the anime, just read the manga


False , who told you that ??
Mar 15, 2020 9:12 AM
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Piromysl said:
Score is now below 6, boys!


yeah because MAL is such a credible source
Mar 15, 2020 10:46 AM

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pardon me, but I didn't understand the question
Mar 15, 2020 11:51 AM
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NameLessMofo said:
@DragonIncursio
pardon me, but I didn't understand the question


That as you say "bad" animation and art equals a shit anime .
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DragonIncursio said:
NameLessMofo said:
@DragonIncursio
pardon me, but I didn't understand the question


That as you say "bad" animation and art equals a shit anime .


So you think the art&animation is good?

Is that what you sayin
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NameLessMofo said:
DragonIncursio said:


That as you say "bad" animation and art equals a shit anime .


So you think the art&animation is good?

Is that what you sayin


Im just asking do you think good or bad animation determines whether an anime is good or not
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If I created a thread each time MAL’s community shits on my favorite anime/manga, I would have had 1000+ forum posts.

Read the manga and watch the new season, bad animation is not the only reason it is hated so much. I, myself, really liked the chapters that covered ‘Nanatsu no Taizai: Kamigami no Gekirin’ in the manga, however, I just cannot enjoy the TV series.
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DragonIncursio said:
NameLessMofo said:


So you think the art&animation is good?

Is that what you sayin


Im just asking do you think good or bad animation determines whether an anime is good or not


It's definitely a huge factor some people won't watch some of the best shows just because they don't like the art.

And it depends on the anime for example action shonen should have decent to really good art and animation at least for important/hyped fights, in one piece there are lots of bad animation, still shots, etc. but when it comes to important moments/fights they deliver which is not the case in this anime.

Aside from the animation, the pacing is really weird, the sound is meh, everything is just horrible, the op is probably just a blind fanboy and expects everyone to be like him.

The score is well deserved.
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Haha love the KnY diss but NnT isn't a good example, NnT has been average since it's first season with all the stupid broken strengths and power levels

Both are just average shounen, wait till KnY has a season 3 that has a trash animation

It's both average shounens, stop the comparison, HxH the GOAT btw
Mar 17, 2020 6:23 AM

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It's called anime, animation is a factor... if it wasn't, you would be reading the manga. This complains tend to happen when they deliver a sequel worst than the prequel.
And it should be this way, might teach a lesson to whoever had the "bright" idea to change Nanatsu airing night time slot to the kids time slot... hope he gets fired. Oh and Deen is to blame too, they chose to take this project.
Mar 17, 2020 7:20 AM

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"why people no like bad anime I like, community bad reee"

Animation is pretty big part of anime, yes.
You all need to watch Nami.

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"Noooooo i like this anime so its very good how dare you call it's flaws! Those flaws don't even matter!!!"
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White blood? Thats not even the biggest problem, mate the animation is horrible i have seen fanimations superior to this shit the sound, pacing, just put an episode of Season 1/2 in one screen and Season 3 on other and you will see why people hating, i have seen better animation in animes made in the 90s, it amazes me some people say they dont see any diference btw s1,2 and 3 you guys must be casuals or blind, better read the manga, they did this season dirty and Im afraid 4th season will be worst, why didnt they simply delay it for 1y, but nah "we gotta milk the fanboys".
I had to wait for this shit to finish to marathon it, and dear god so many times i wanted just to punch my TV and drop this shit, but Escanor saved this shitshow and since im a huge NNT fan i finished this horrible season, just for Escanor ill give this shitshow a 7/10 if it wasnt for him i wouldnt even give a fuck.
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Animation matters and it matters more if it's an action/battle shonen no matter how good the plot is (which is not in nnt 3) the fights need good animation an anime with low budget animation can be good if it's not centered around fast paced action/fight ect....
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GilgaGOAT said:
Welcome to 2019. The year where the only thing that matters is animation. Screw characters and plot . If a mediocre show has good animation it will be talked about to no end while if a very good show with good character and plot has decent but jot amazing animation it will be cinsidered garbage
The abimation is actually pretty good . The fight scenes are as good as always the only thing some idiots can think about is white blood which is not even an issue and i don't see why people got mad over it.


The anime community leaves me baffled yet again. I have had so many issues with the animedon for so long, especially on MAL, and yet, they continue to surprise and baffle me. The list of anime this sorry community has laid undeserved praise on and the list of anime that deserved much better treatment from the community continues to increase every year.
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People in the anime community really care too much about what others think, love what you love, hate what you hate. When did this community become a pissing contest between who's taste in Japanese cartoons is superior?
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People in the anime community really care too much about what others think, love what you love, hate what you hate. When did this community become a pissing contest between who's taste in Japanese cartoons is superior?

This. Animation mattering or not is completely subjective. What a ridiculous argument
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lol this is funny
Yeah, let's support subpar products and shitty management because only the plot matters, guys!
The state of the anime industry is a sad one... because people these days will eat anything up, regardless of quality. This is why studios like J.C. Staff are still thriving lmao
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Animation matters and it matters more if it's an action/battle shonen no matter how good the plot is (which is not in nnt 3) the fights need good animation an anime with low budget animation can be good if it's not centered around fast paced action/fight ect....

Gonna hard agree with this. While an interesting narrative and characters are good enough to make a show enjoyable, if its an action show it really needs some level of competence in the animation.
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