DiscoDespot said:NaotoCC said:
Oh yea, original cast were full of character and not maximum tropes lmao. Sorry both casts have extreme similarities, it only gets flack cause people can't move on.Also pt goes way more in depth in the action scenes than original ever did to keep it completely grounded, Haruto is the only exception and now we know why lol, Not like yuuji was ''grounded''.
Again, people who just want more of the original exaggerate a fuckton and overrate original way too much while trying to make a sound comparison when the bias is obvious. Meanwhile most people who liked grisaia also really like pt me included. The hate is just the minority of the minority aka mal users as per usual lmao,
Seeing ''confusing'' plot as an arguement is the biggest contradiction by far also. Oh yea i'm sure a linear plot split in volumes is more confusing than Kajitsu where they are desperate to keep so many stuff hidden and 80% of it ends up being non-canon lmao.
You said the cast have extreme similarities which is another problem I have with the series. Alot of the characters (not all) seem like carbon copies of the originals, but with less depth, especially since the play time in each girls arc is a lot shorter than in FOG. Infact, it is shown that Haruto actually IS just a copy of the originals.
As you said, PT goes into a lot more depth into the action scenes, the problem is that it is at the cost of developing the characters so well like in FOG. Focusing more on action is the wrong direction for the series since the strength of visual novels is in plot and characters, not so much action. While anime action is never going to be entirely reality based (like a guy taking a point blank hit from a .454. Casull and still fighting on adrenaline) adding in 'special powers' undermines the genre of PT itself, which is a story of a military tactical unit. Juicy Yuuji was OP sure, but he was still human and he could still be cornered by normal combatants because he doesn't have super human speed and brain power. It is a large hit to immersion when a story about a military unit has some superman running around.
I don't know where your point of 'confusing plot' comes from. Neither FOG or PT has any huge plot twists. Both series has a certain level or mystery that is later revealed, but Grisaia is hardly a confusing series.
Lastly, you are mistaking my view of PT flaws as hate. I said before that I enjoy the series and will support it. Phantom Trigger has it's own appeal, I just don't think it can really be seen as a successor to the Grisaia name since it doesn't feature what made the original so lovable.