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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Seems like they aimed for the final battle in this series between the Mongols and the defenders. Everyone fights to their end regardless of the odds and unfortunately, there's definitely some that don't make it. Hell, even Jinzaburou gave me a few scares as just how dangerous this war turned out to be. He went to desperate measures to escape from death in the waters. Some questionable scenes from this finale aside, I think the show overall was solid. Good thing Teruhi also survived in the end. However some didn't make it. Kano's actions this episode was also very emotional to watch. It took on the historical fiction genre with a story that I felt was engaging from start to finish (wish there's more episodes though) |
Stark700Sep 25, 2018 10:40 AM
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| Sad that Kuchii's trusted men all ended all falling in battle then. Amushi's plan was a brave one but too bad the odds were too much. I can see where Kuchii's daughter got her determination from. It must have been hard walking through that battlefield and seeing the bodies of those that you commanded but couldn't save. That last dual though sure was intense but Kuchii's speech sure was even more impressive. So in the end only Kuchii, Teruhi and some civilians survived the invasion. Quite the intense episode but one that ended the series well. Hope there will be a sequel as hinted. |
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| What a meh ending, and second season is probably never gonna happened. |
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Swagernator said: What a meh ending, and second season is probably never gonna happened. Hope is the last to die... |
BigNickDigger69 said: what about the girl who swam after the kid that got impaled? wasn't she one of the survivors at the end? namedrisk said: Swagernator said: What a meh ending, and second season is probably never gonna happened. Hope is the last to die... And that is the message we should get from this. I wonder how much the show's creators were thinking about WW2 in this episode. Few times in modern history has a country been so comprehensively defeated as Japan was, but even after that from the ashes they rebuilt that country and only 20 years later could be considered a success story. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| This animes was awesome,I hope that have a second season. |
| This was a crazy episode, nice way to wrap this show up. Definitely in my top 5 of Summer 18 Second season is basically a must, but not sure if it's going to happen. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| so like everyone died.... I am so depressed after watching it.... still a great show... they kept it real till the very end... (with a little fish clique or what not) |
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| Ok so Jinzaburou got blown up, drown in the ocean, encountered Jaws, but for some stupid reason he's alive???????WTF HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!!!!!!!!!! |
| Very sad but very good. No second season. There is no story for this. And It's good because ended very well. |
| It ended quite well with all those emotional pile up. Damn Kano's sacrifice was hardbearing to watch. Its at times like these that I think all women must be protected. Really crushing feels to the heart watching it end like this. Overall they handled the plot with little or less records left very gentle with care. Banzai to those brave warriors who stood till the end. Survival is winning. |
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| A good story, but given the spoilers and how the material get more explicit in the manga, I don't think I can read that. :( |
Farabeuf said: BigNickDigger69 said: what about the girl who swam after the kid that got impaled? wasn't she one of the survivors at the end? And that is the message we should get from this. I wonder how much the show's creators were thinking about WW2 in this episode. Few times in modern history has a country been so comprehensively defeated as Japan was, but even after that from the ashes they rebuilt that country and only 20 years later could be considered a success story. Historically, Mongols tried to invade Japan twice. And both times a Typhoon was the primary reason they failed. Not really sure what the 2nd season would feature. The fight on Mainland Japan , which wouldn't be as interesting, or the attempt to ... 'repopulate' and rebuild Tsushima? |
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me |
| I'll just believe the kid survive until proven dead. RIP Kano. |
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| Really liked Jinzaburou and his ragtag friends, rest in peaces, while characters on the princess and mongol side were weak and forgettable. Got some good fights in, though the show generally made a poor showing of the scale of the battles, and before this final episode, the sense of war. Hope this gets a sequel someday, if nothing else, for the rather unique representation of this period in Japanese history. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
| Another great show has ended! damn! almost all of them are fallen! whelp that's history for yah'! 5/5. 8/10. |
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| And my prediction that they would all die almost came true. Man, I was hoping that last bit after he beat the general and was facing them all down would end like John Marston from Red Dead |
Swagernator said: What a meh ending, and second season is probably never gonna happened. Unrelated here but that Okita Alter...a man of culture indeed |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| It was a great show to watch, the ending was rather polarizing but that is the ugly truth of war; there are no real winners...just the idea of survival in itself. Sad to see this one go and with no way of reading the manga in english, I'm left thoroughly unsatisfied. EDIT: So the manga is apparently already finished...welp...definitely nothing left to this one. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| The reality of war. None of that glorified hero shit. Liked it enough for what it was. |
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| ok first of all I fully expected everyone to die in this series. The ending felt cheap. But its also fine with me. personally if he fought and killed the admiral and died I would have satisfied. I predicted that someone *staring at hime* would get caught and raped if they lose but not the ninja girl. Nooooo T_T I guess they left jinza alive so there can be a potential S2. Feels very much like they plan on it since tsushima is but the first part to the mongol war against Japan. Im kinda sad they kill Amushi though. Kid was genuine. 8/10 for me. But imma put a 10 in my mal rating because too many shit taste people dipping the scores so low. >.> |
Glassgrenado said: The ending kinda confuses me as enjoyable as it was. Did Douen and Onitakemaru really die off-screen? What happened to Jinzaburou’s wife and child? Why end the series when the flashforward in ep1 implies he dies on the mainland via a storm of arrows? And what was with the masked English looking guy that Jinzaburou fought in the same episode? I enjoyed this series, but I feel like theres still more story left to tell. Douen died on-screen protecting a injured person from a shot if I not mistake. Onitakemaru died or was heavy injured off-screen, Jinzaburou's wife and child died by a disease while he was on war. |
| I hope it get 2nd season One of the most underrated shows in this season |
| This was one of the hell final episode. Until episode 11 I expected brave Tsushima defenders delaying Mongols in cost of great casualities, until deus ex machina Mainland army reinforcements arrives, then deaths came en massé. And finale did it. Kuchii Jinzaborou-donno fan club killed to the last in their last stand, kid took a spear through a chest, ogre pirate was killed off-screen (probably brutally by Trans Mongolian commander) Princess of murdered by her own maiden to saving her from fate Kano herself ended (Except she didn't, which little bit ruined experience for me). Btw, was she being killed after or not, I didn't notice her between casualities. After all, historical anime done right, in my opinion. |
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| I wish Kano hadnt been raped, it hurts man. |
| I got no time to do what I dont want to do |
| Mongols who chases Kano were all using spear except one with an axe. *Replace Fuuma Tokiko with Kano* |
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| The final episode displayed the costs of war very clearly, which is need in this kind of series. The historical fiction genre in Anime is still very new to me, but is really appreciated as a fan of World History. (7/10) |
| Minori Chihara <3 |
| That was one brutal, savage, and depressing ending. Poor Kano... At least it was somewhat optimistic with Jinzaburou and the princess surviving. Among others. Honestly would have enjoyed the series a lot more if the entire anime was like these two final episodes. |
| One of the best series of the summer season! |
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| A military/historical tale with a very narrow focus. I was struck with how likable Jinzaburou ended up being, but I never got the sense that he, or any of the other characters really, were ever personable. Still, this was a pretty solid series that had an interesting visual style despite an obvious lower budget. |
| This was a great show, throughout I enjoyed completely ... Really hope for 2nd season... |
| それでも 今は 生きて 歌え ... |
| It brings me great sorrowing knowing that the daughter of his is dead. She would've been a sttrong proud women growing up. |
| Hate Keeps me warm |
Martin_Taylor said: Kano herself ended (Except she didn't, which little bit ruined experience for me). Btw, was she being killed after or not, I didn't notice her between casualities. Women and children were taken captive and brought on the ships to become slaves (or the local variant of the same social status), so I think that Kano, being quite attractive, was there too as spoils of war. |
Ryoga84 said: Martin_Taylor said: Kano herself ended (Except she didn't, which little bit ruined experience for me). Btw, was she being killed after or not, I didn't notice her between casualities. Women and children were taken captive and brought on the ships to become slaves (or the local variant of the same social status), so I think that Kano, being quite attractive, was there too as spoils of war. Sad to say, but Kano was probably raped, with luck she was killed... Don't really get what happened to the boy and girl in the sea, but I think they died too like the big guy. They made sure to show who was alive. |
SnaitaSep 27, 2018 5:09 PM
| What a sad episode :/ I knew that they never had a chance but i always had hope that maybe reinforcements from Japan would come or something else would happen and that they would survive :/ I wish there were more historic (or not) animes like this. I just hope that Kaho survived and that kid that took a spear and the girl that went to save him :/ It was worth it but i'ts too sad, not even sad...but more like depressive because you know you can't do anything to prevent what will happen. Wish there was a 2nd season, would be interesting to see the Mongols coming to Japan but i doubt it will happen. At least we have the princess that survived. Wish i could give this more but, 7/10 |
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| Eh, pretty forgettable. |
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| Ugh, Kano man... I know that shit happens in wars and all that but I just can't deal with it. I truly felt bad after that scene... what a brave woman to take that decision of protecting Teruhi-hime, even knowing what will happen if the Mongols capture her. Yeah, this was depressing to watch but at least a few people could survive, including some kids who weren't captured. A really bittersweet ending if you ask me. Not that I'm complaining tho. Despite the feeling of grief these two last episodes gave me, I really liked this series overall. It had its flaws, obviously, like the romance, which I found unnecessary but I never felt bored while watching it. 7/10 |
| I wonder who is the Khan at the last scene, most probably Kublai Khan but I do not have enough knowledge about the East Mongols, Is there anyone who knows about them ? |
Snaita said: Ryoga84 said: Women and children were taken captive and brought on the ships to become slaves (or the local variant of the same social status), so I think that Kano, being quite attractive, was there too as spoils of war. Sad to say, but Kano was probably raped, with luck she was killed... Don't really get what happened to the boy and girl in the sea, but I think they died too like the big guy. They made sure to show who was alive. Guys, guys, I sadly know about all of that, I was just wondering if there was like spoof on her body or if she was seen between slaves of brief moment, which would confirm here fate, because I didn't notice anything like that. Edit: Girl tried to save the boy, she probably survived, I guess he's almost certainly dead. Also, I just happen to remember the merchant. Last time he was with pirate on ship, then Ogre pirate come back to fight, merchant was nowhere to be seen. His fate unknown? Probably captured and kill by Mongols, but I am sure his type is hiding in woods. |
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Martin_Taylor said: Snaita said: Sad to say, but Kano was probably raped, with luck she was killed... Don't really get what happened to the boy and girl in the sea, but I think they died too like the big guy. They made sure to show who was alive. Guys, guys, I sadly know about all of that, I was just wondering if there was like spoof on her body or if she was seen between slaves of brief moment, which would confirm here fate, because I didn't notice anything like that. She was never seen after being pinned down by the Mongols, only the people captured that were after released by the kid. |
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