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| ... What the fuck Madhouse? Horrible CGI, weird pacing, no splat at all in the most anticipated scene of the series.. I'm really disappointed by this episode. The lack of good visuals completely ruined the mood of the scene. That aside, it was pretty fun to see the soldier's reaction to seeing Ainz killing the people on the other side. |
JokucSep 26, 2018 6:06 AM
It's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. |
| This episode is on a whole different scale of grand despair epicness! Dumb Stronoff, if he accepted Ainz decision to be his subordinate and then that's gonna be more interesting and would same more human lives... LOLZ at Ainz, was able to stop all five of them with a flick of his fingers...more like what Thanos could do as well. SUPREME POWAH! lol at that summoned goat of despair! crossover of Berserk CLANG!? 5/5! |
matias067Sep 25, 2018 11:47 PM
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Grey-Zone said: You would be right if every single person here saying the CGI was bad was an LN reader, but they're not. I don't need to read the LN and/or have high expectations for this episode to see that that the production was utterly underwhelming at best, and painful to watch at worst.Simply because it's impossible for the medium. Don't blame the viewer for seeing something bad, as bad, blame the studio for making something that is, per your words, "impossible for the medium". |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Wow, Madhouse sure got shit in recent years. If they keep it up they might replace Gonzo as animated butt of studio jokes. If you can't do something properly, don't do it at all... |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| what is that monsters? genghis khan? |
Xion69 said: Trust me, I know that. That's why I said that the production was terrible, and not that they were lazy or something. The CGI was most likely due to either a lack of money, a lack of time, or both. But it's still their fault, a studio like Madhouse should know what it can and can't do.You may have misunderstood him. Studios get small & limited budget, They don't have marvel, DC budget. If they make mistakes, they have to use it. They don't have the money for re-shoot. There is a reason that anime liveaction movies suck. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
 i wonder if he will shit his pants time to return to your right anime reinhard |
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| I don't mind the bad CGI. The emperor said about 3000 deaths in one attack but Ainz show him who is the goat here of killing about 70000 lol. Gazef Stronoff is truly a man among greatness to refuse Ainz proposal after seeing his power. |
| Bruh this was fire ! |
| Was that it? Was this the infamous episode LN readers have been hyping up for weeks, spamming the stupid “SpLaT SpLaT sPLaT SpLaT sPLaT!!1!” meme? I don’t even know why everyone was so excited and hype about the war: “Wow, 70,000 fodder soldiers and some generic, snobby nobles died. Best episode eva!!” All the fights/conflicts are boring and predictable since it's the same, repetitive one-sided curb stomp we’ve seen already. There’s no semblance of tension or stakes involved. These fodders can’t even outsmart Kirito, I mean Ainz because he’s always 5 steps ahead and his plan always goes off without a hitch. I’m not going to mention the CGI because everyone knows how garbage it was. 70,000 fodder soldiers died, yet they looked like no more than 1000 pinballs dropping to the ground. The ‘splat’ scene with the ugly looking goats stomping around was bland and didn’t even have any blood. There was no emotional weight behind these scenes. This whole underwhelming episode was shock value and another excuse for Ainz to flex how overwhelming overpowered he is compared to everyone. “Sasuga Ainz-Sama!!1!” Prediction here: Gazef challenges Ains in a 1v1 to save his kingdom. Ains crushes Gazef, and going by the current trend of pointless characters created for the sake of dying- in this case, the nobles and Gazef most likely dies. I mean it’s not as if anyone from Nazarick or any named characters that’s protected by them will ever die due to plot armour so who cares! |
FlexstyleSep 26, 2018 3:21 AM
| THIS IS EPISODE IS AWESOME!! More Ainzzzz more Ainzzzz!!!! a duel?? cant wait for another 7 days dfq |
"If it made you happy, then everything’s okay." - Haruka Kasugano  |
| @thebrentinator24 To be honest, it was pretty lame in the novel as well. I've read the source material and can't understand why people were so annoyingly excited about stupid looking monsters stomping people. It was the blandest and most disappointing spell in the whole series as far as I remember. Post battle management was more interesting that this whole battle itself... |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| That overhyped "SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT" was really just... Anticlimactic Note to self: Never rely to Light Novel fanboys/girls for good content. It's just sad seeing all of the Overlord LN fans trying to back up this crap of a episode xD |
| "You can't spell slaughter without laughter". |
| Oh look, people throwing a hissy fit about the CGI... again. Seriously, get a fucking grip already. Anyway, this episode was about par for the course, with the battle going about as well as expected for humanity. Now, this duel will be interesting, as I assume that Gazef (along with Brain and Climb) is one of the four people Ains wanted alive, but has that changed after his refusal to become Ains' subordinate? Then there's the question of who the fourth person is. I assume it's Renner, but I've not seen her actually involved in this battle so I'm not actually sure. |
I know that it was TV version... i just told to them, BD or DVD would be better and if you guys buy the DVD or BD version... the higher sales, the biggest chance for Season 4 |
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OG_Gattsu said: are you joe_striker?Was that it? Was this the infamous episode LN readers have been hyping up for weeks, spamming the stupid “SpLaT SpLaT sPLaT SpLaT sPLaT!!1!” meme? I don’t even know why everyone was so excited and hype about the war: “Wow, 70,000 fodder soldiers and some generic, snobby nobles died. Best episode eva!!” All the fights/conflicts are boring and predictable since it's the same, repetitive one-sided curb stomp we’ve seen already. There’s no semblance of tension or stakes involved. These fodders can’t even outsmart Kirito, I mean Ainz because he’s always 5 steps ahead and his plan always goes off without a hitch. I’m not going to mention the CGI because everyone knows how garbage it was. The ‘splat’ scene with the ugly looking monsters stomping around was bland and poorly animated. There was no emotional weight behind these scenes. This whole episode was shock value and another excuse for Ainz to flex how overwhelming overpowered he is compared to everyone. “Sasuga Ainz-Sama!!1!” Prediction here: Gazef challenges Ains in a 1v1 to save his kingdom. Ains crushes Gazef, and going by the current trend of pointless characters created for the sake of dying- in this case, the nobles and Gazef most likely dies. I mean it’s not as if anyone from Nazarick or any named characters that’s protected by them will ever die due to plot armour so who cares! |
AcceleratorAngel said: Not worth it I guess...F u shithouse jus f u, destroyed the best scene of the whole novel, with ur shitty ass cgi, even berserk 2017 had better cgi than this shit. How can japanese fans eat this shit up, facepalm 🤦♀️ |
Eisigerhauch said: Let it die, read the source material. You could spend your money on good series instead. Actually, i dont mind if it would die, coz there are a lot of good anime out there. I preffer to spend my money on an certain anime industry. |
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joe_g7 said: Grey-Zone said: You would be right if every single person here saying the CGI was bad was an LN reader, but they're not. I don't need to read the LN and/or have high expectations for this episode to see that that the production was utterly underwhelming at best, and painful to watch at worst.Simply because it's impossible for the medium. Don't blame the viewer for seeing something bad, as bad, blame the studio for making something that is, per your words, "impossible for the medium". I wasn't talking about the CGI by itself though. My post was adressing the question of whether or not the expectations of LN readers for the "SPLAT" scene could be met and I am saying it's impossible regardless of things like CGI. Even if there was no CGI and the animations would look aboslutely perfect, LN readers would definitly still complain that it's "too dull" and "nothing but pretty graphics". I remember a similar thing for the final fight of Fate/stay night: unlimited blade works. The scene looked great - unlike this scene in Overlord, it was actually animated well, but the awesomeness of that scene in the visual novel was also quite abstract and if you only look at the description itself, it would actually look rather bland when strictly adhereing to the description. In the end, as expected, many of the source material readers were disappointed, but it would become a disappointment even if it had been a strict 1:1 adaptation because it would be considered as bland and details people were imagining into the scene obviously wouldn't be there. |
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| inb4 this gets a season 4 Man, this is right where I left off with the LNs before it got licensed. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
Grey-Zone said: Oh I don't doubt that people would still complain even if the CGI was instead regular 2d animation. You can never please everyone. But I still have to disagree. so-bin's art is amazing, and anyone coming into the 3rd season of the anime expecting something of that quality has to be beyond stupid or must've hit their head and forgotten what the previous 20+ episodes looked like. So, I don't believe people would complain as much as you think they would if Madhouse did an absolutely perfect job.I wasn't talking about the CGI by itself though. My post was adressing the question of whether or not the expectations of LN readers for the "SPLAT" scene could be met and I am saying it's impossible regardless of things like CGI. Even if there was no CGI and the animations would look aboslutely perfect, LN readers would definitly still complain that it's "too dull" and "nothing but pretty graphics". I remember a similar thing for the final fight of Fate/stay night: unlimited blade works. The scene looked great - unlike this scene in Overlord, it was actually animated well, but the awesomeness of that scene in the visual novel was also quite abstract and if you only look at the description itself, it would actually look rather bland when strictly adhereing to the description. In the end, as expected, many of the source material readers were disappointed, but it would become a disappointment even if it had been a strict 1:1 adaptation because it would be considered as bland and details people were imagining into the scene obviously wouldn't be there. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
joe_g7 said: Grey-Zone said: Oh I don't doubt that people would still complain even if the CGI was instead regular 2d animation. You can never please everyone. But I still have to disagree. so-bin's art is amazing, and anyone coming into the 3rd season of the anime expecting something of that quality has to be beyond stupid or must've hit their head and forgotten what the previous 20+ episodes looked like. So, I don't believe people would complain as much as you think they would if Madhouse did an absolutely perfect job.I wasn't talking about the CGI by itself though. My post was adressing the question of whether or not the expectations of LN readers for the "SPLAT" scene could be met and I am saying it's impossible regardless of things like CGI. Even if there was no CGI and the animations would look aboslutely perfect, LN readers would definitly still complain that it's "too dull" and "nothing but pretty graphics". I remember a similar thing for the final fight of Fate/stay night: unlimited blade works. The scene looked great - unlike this scene in Overlord, it was actually animated well, but the awesomeness of that scene in the visual novel was also quite abstract and if you only look at the description itself, it would actually look rather bland when strictly adhereing to the description. In the end, as expected, many of the source material readers were disappointed, but it would become a disappointment even if it had been a strict 1:1 adaptation because it would be considered as bland and details people were imagining into the scene obviously wouldn't be there. I mean yes, the complains would be lower because the CGI problem certainly added to the dissatisfaction, probably more so than just expectations not being met. And yes, so-bin's art is absolutely amazing - it actually improved ever since vol. 10 when he started using the anime designs in the LN, escpacially in regards to Ainz. |
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| The cgi in Overlord was never good. So I wasn't expecting anything grand in the first place. I guess that's why I enjoyed the episode. |
| Good episode. Probably best one in season 3 the CGI did not bother me at all. I was not even thinking about it when I watched the episode. I'm surprised that people complaining so much about it DocCgill said: I didn't really see a problem with the CG. It was a amazing episode. I am very hype for next weeks episode. +1 |
thepathSep 26, 2018 8:49 AM
| Need an uncensored version with blood and gore :< CGI still better then CGI Berserk though, poor Guts >< |
neopriestSep 26, 2018 6:09 AM
OG_Gattsu said: Was that it? Was this the infamous episode LN readers have been hyping up for weeks? There’s no semblance of tension or stakes involved. "Several people desperately thrust their pikes forward. The Dark Young, whose bodies were massive and who had no intention to evade the attacks, were hit solidly by the points. However, the pikes could not pierce deeply enough to cause harm to their slab-like bodies. They were masses of iron-hard muscle sheathed by thick, rubbery skin. The Dark Young did not mock their futile resistance, but simply charged forward. Before the soldiers realized that their fatal resolve was meaningless, the Dark Young had already reached the centermost portion of the Kingdom’s army. “Run away! Run away!” They heard the shouts from the distance. In response, all the soldiers began to flee. It was exactly like a swarm of spiders scattering in all directions. But of course, the Dark Young were much faster than human beings. Splat. Splat. Splat. Splat. Splat. Splat. Splat. Splat. Splat. The sounds of humans being crushed to death and turned into chunks of meat went on and on." In the novel, the scene was described in such a way that made the scene more intense. Not only was there no blood or even any "splat" at all in the anime, but they didn't really succeed in showing the point of the scene - to show how how utterly terrified and shocked the Kingdom and Empire's soldiers were during this moment. And how they looked at Ainz as a monster not showing any mercy. The whole thing felt goofy in the anime. Not only because of the shitty cgi but because they didn't show much things that would have given the scene the tone it needed. |
It's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. |
CrunchyRin said: in the Anime-verse yes it was a shitty CGI ... I didn't like it to be honest ... but as both a LN reader and a Anime watcher ... I can't hate it so much ... budget-wise, I'm not very sure how the salary goes in the production of the anime to be honest, but isn't everybody that is part of the production get fixed salaries? maybe a limitation to the industry itself, (IMO) apart from independent animator who has good skills in animation yet hasn't landed a good job in the animation industry apart from saying Disney Movies that takes years to complete but for only 1 movie, I think this is partly at fault with production limitations like every week releases... but to be fair to Madhouse and the other opinions out there. After the end of Season 2 they already announced Season 3 so I guess budget cuts are real. Hoping for episode 13 to be a good ending where and without CGI since episode 12 left with a cliffhanger of the duel between Gazef and Papa Bones. If you're a LN reader and an Anime watcher like me go ahead and meme it due to shitty CGI but we all know that it was a good episode at the very least ... Yes they get fixed salaries - by work time. So you can either pay (fictional numbers) $1000 per 10 hours or pay $2000 for 20 hours. The quality between those two will be drastically different. For a reference: Everything that requires artistic skills will in most cases be better if you put more time and money in it. You get worse if you pay less. There are exceptions to this (Duke Nukem Forever, Foodfight etc) but those had also a LOT of other problems. I just think that madhouse rushed the production of S2 and S3 and thats why we are where we are. |
| First attack on titans and then Overlord this season is really great and is going on an increasing slope |
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| lmao. 0/10 animation. 0/10 story and plot. |
| The closer you get to the light,the greater your shadow becomes. |
| This must be how a slime feels when a level 100 player attacks it. |
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| Like always the novels are much better. A lot of build up for the battle was missing and details about the Emperial army etc. also some of the CG looked ridiculous. My favorite scene was the one in which all the soldiers clapped until they hands fell off xd |
neopriest said: Need an uncensored version with blood and gore :< CGI still better then CGI Berserk though, poor Guts >< That doesn't exist. I cannot recall a single anime that had bloody battlefields - only bloodied individuals at most, even if the original source showed them as actually being bloody, see: GATE, Attack on Titan, Kingdom, Youjo Senki, etc. It seems to be a Japanese thing. I suspect it has to do with bad memories about the nukes or something. |
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Grey-Zone said: neopriest said: Need an uncensored version with blood and gore :< CGI still better then CGI Berserk though, poor Guts >< That doesn't exist. I cannot recall a single anime that had bloody battlefields - only bloodied individuals at most, even if the original source showed them as actually being bloody, see: GATE, Attack on Titan, Kingdom, Youjo Senki, etc. It seems to be a Japanese thing. I suspect it has to do with bad memories about the nukes or something. Some titles back in the 70's-80's did, but I can't think of anything in the modern era. Might just be a risk they aren't willing to take now days, never mind it's expensive on the budget. This episode didn't do the LN justice though, 180,000 of their (the Kingdom's Army) 260,000 died on that field, 143 Imperials died from trampling over one another, and 4k men quit the Knight's, 200 developed serious mental illnesses. |
| ..and still no hint of the magic caster (of the southern theocracy something? i forgot) that brainwashed shalltear at the end of S1. i guess most people had forgotten anyway. and I doubt we would ever see him/her even if we get S4 & S5 & so on, coz this series prefer to waste its precious screentime on useless chatter & insignificant chars development |
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| Holy shit Ains kinda like snapped his finger a la Thanos and 70,000 people died. He's like Saitama now, anyone he fights is sure to die, only question is, how. |
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