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ramenfighter said: Kracksickles said: Boy did I love the music. I believe it's the same people who did Nier:Automata yes I got the same vibe. They both have the same atmosphere on terms of story. And you'd be 100% right, its the same composer. As soon as I watched the first episode of the prequel half, I immediately thought of Nier during the transformation scene, so i googled it. |
| At least we got a nice happy ending after all of the trauma these girls experienced. I'm a bit confused on a few things though: - Shinjyu is obviously a god, but the God of the sky who sent in the vertexes and fire was also a God...they never really explained why the sky God is "evil" and why its trying to destroy Shinjyu. The sky god can be communicated with to some extent just like Shinjyu, because it accepts sacrifices from the humans just like Shinjyu. - So I believe its presumed that the large island that everyone lives on, is actually all there is to the world right? At least that's how I interpreted it. Their city is only ever shown, and its surrounded by a massive wall, the "Long Bridge" led to nowhere, and everything outside the wall was fiery hell. ^ So bouncing off that being the case, prior to Shinjyu dying, the condition of Shinjyu being protected and whatnot, was that the God was actually infinitely providing everything for everyone (seeing as how that entire island was all of existence and all of humanity)? As in, oil and fossil fuels, crops, and food and water were limitless? ^And also, since Shinjyu died, and Yuuna murdered the sky god, the branches of the new tree were able to stretch...well, infinitely and reach out to the world that was once engulfed in fire and vertexes. Does that imply that the world itself grew, and that they now have land and area to cultivate and move to outside of the island? It basically seemed like the metaphorical equivalent of the entire human race being on an island the size of Hawaii, and then when the two Gods died, they then gained access to the rest of the globe. If that's the case then the world having finite resources doesnt really seem to be an issue when the entire population is still only enough to populate the island they currently live on. - I'm also a bit confused about what exactly happened with Yuuna at the end there, and how Gyuki was kind of at the center of it all. Obviously Togo and the power of all the previous heroes broke the barrier and saved Yuuna, but then it was Gyuki who weaved that cocoon around the two of them and imbued Yuuna with the power. And despite Shinjyu dying, that same sequence of events inexplicably brought the tree back to life (minus Shinjyu), so like...did the power of all the dead heroes invigorate the tree as well? It just seems like it kind of "happened". I always thought Shinjyu WAS the tree, but did the god just inhabit the tree? And also, when Yuuna won, she talked to Gyuki like the came to a realization right before Gyuki faded away. She goes "Gyuki...you are..." and then Gyuki dies. So was Gyuki actually Shinjyu, or connected to the tree? That aside, it was pretty funny to watch all of those Taisha scumbags turn into wheat to become one with Shinjyu, and then Shinjyu dies...so they all died for nothing. And then on the radio you can hear everyone's anger for realizing what a bunch of con artist fucks they were, since they went to HQ and they weren't there. And from the looks of it everyday people weren't going to be saved either, only the Taisha members performing their little ritual. Kind of pissed Aki-sensei didnt die too. She always tried to play the "oh she felt so guilty for the girls" card at the most convenient time, but she never gave a shit about them. No matter how bad she supposedly felt she always with absolute loyalty followed the Taisha. She saw how the upgrade fucked over the girls bodies, knew immediately it was bad, kept her mouth shut. She knew the marriage ritual was a fucking farce and knew people being sacrificed meant nothing, and she still went along with it. Then cries tears of joy that the girls are alive at the end...what a crock of shit. And she got away with only losing an eye. On the plus side all of the girls can lead perfectly normal lives now. The phones are broken, Shinjyu is dead so its not like they could draw power anymore anyway. Plus the sky god got face fucked by a rocket punch, so no more fire or vertexes. And now Yuuna can marry Togo instead of the Shinjyu! |
MistLiigh said: Hmmm... I guess I'm in the minority here in thinking this was a pretty underwhelming ending. Not bad, just... underwhelming. For me, this was the weakest of the three chapters, I think they tried to go too big for the short 6 episode runtime they had available. Some parts felt a little rushed, and it all came down to the rather tired trope of "the louder I yell, THE STRONGER I GET!" without much of anything to really make the victory feel earned... Granted, YuYuYu did a little of that too, but it didn't feel as overplayed or unearned there. And the middle of the episode gave me some End of Evangelion vibes I didn't care for... But overall, it wasn't bad, just... didn't feel as epic as they wanted it to be. This is 100% of how I felt. What I liked about the other two chapters is that there was a sense of loss and that there was a price for everything. Also the other two were better developed, this one did seem a bit rushed and I didn't like that basically everything somehow worked out in the end. I feel like it would have been more impactful if Yuna had to sacrifice herself, I just felt like everything ended a little too neatly for this series. Like did all the gods die? How was Shinju-sama able to take down all the other gods with his sacrifice? I'm definitely disappointed. I will say the last punch had awesome animation though! Overall it was an ok season, but I'm disappointed that it ended as predictable as possible. The power of friendship overcame all! |
LoomyTheBrewJan 8, 2018 4:34 PM
mcpw said: Jonesy974 said: -post- Well, the Japanese island this show takes place in is Shikoku, which has about the same area as the land in the Hawaiian islands combined. It is indeed implied or outright said that the Shinju provides for their needs, including oil and such. I do think they mentioned this somewhere on the show, but on side-material its explicitly stated. While yes, with all the new land it is not like they will starve, however, modern society needs a lot of international trade to survive, the show itself is in an even worse situation as 85% of the country is gone too. While its a step up from "we might die this week if a bunch of schoolgirls doesn't manage to beat down a monster" it's hard to think nice times are ahead for their society, the luxuries of the modern world will surely be harder to get now that their god no longer gives them free stuff. Mankind will surely survive, but in a harsher world. The Shinju basically went Mankai, that is why it "bloomed" as it cast away the fire that covered the world. And as we saw in S1, after Mankai comes Sange, so the tree perished along with all the gods and souls inside it. We don't know what Gyuuki was exactly. It could be the Shinju's manifestation, as all fairies are made from spirits within the tree. It could be a particular character from a prequel light novel. We just don't know. Well its not that Shinju was giving them free stuff per-say right? It's that resources were infinite. Like the people still had to do their own fishing or do their own farming, its just that the sea would never be overfished and the soil would always be fertile and plants would always grow. I also understood Shinju and the tree dying, just not what spurred it's regrowth with mankai. |
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| Sorry, but I think this was the stupidest anime I've ever seen. You know, the world, right? You know how the world has people in it? If the world ends, those people die. You know where Yuuna lives? She lives in the world. That means if the world ends, Yuuna dies. You cannot possibly "save Yuuna from dying" by doing something which results in the end of the world. Regardless of what actually happened, the rest of the girls believed that they were ending the world. That means they did not decide to save Yuuna, since the end of the world will also kill Yuuna. They just decided to kill the rest of humanity. And this idiotic show thinks they were being heroic. Doing something you believe will kill humanity so someone can die in a slightly different way is not heroic. Real heroes engage their brains before acting. And it handles this by just not having anyone point it out, and hoping the viewer won't notice. OK, maybe none of the other girls would be pointing it out. But Yuuna should be pointing it out, since she should have noticed it when deciding to do the thing. And the people who devised it should certainly be pointing it out. And apparently, it has a happy ending. WTF? "humanity will have to learn to live with limited resources" sounds to me like impending world war (as those resources get allocated) and mass starvation, followed by the economic exploitation of much of humanity under capitalism. Someone upthread was saying even their food gets provided by the gods. So does anyone even know how to farm? In a year, those girls could all be dead anyway, along with 99% of humanity. It just manufactures an ending which looks happy by stopping where it does. A total insult to the viewer's intelligence. |
logopolis said: SRegardless of what actually happened, the rest of the girls believed that they were ending the world. That means they did not decide to save Yuuna, since the end of the world will also kill Yuuna. They just decided to kill the rest of humanity. Wait, what? How did you get that. They were specifically trying to find a solution that did not include ending the world and sacrificing humanity, unlike what the Taisha's solution essentially was. logopolis said: And apparently, it has a happy ending. WTF? "humanity will have to learn to live with limited resources" sounds to me like impending world war (as those resources get allocated) and mass starvation, followed by the economic exploitation of much of humanity under capitalism. There's one island of people left in the world (and has been for the last centuries). I really don't see how you can expect this relatively small community to split into causing a world war when they have enough trouble having to live without divine support, but have now likely a much wider area (possibly the whole original world) to find the necessary resources. |
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mcpw said: An insult would have been to imply that sacrificing a girl who was clearly doing it only out of pressure is the correct decision. I am glad that for once a show did not go with the cliche sacrificial lamb route. That would be crap too. But since the whole thing is crap, the anime shouldn't have set up the situation where the characters think averting the sacrifice will result in the end of the world in the first place, then expect them to avert it anyway. If instead of going "admit that you don't want to die and ask to be saved!" (when as far as she knows it's impossible for her to be saved because that means the end of the world and hence no saving) Tougou was going "no, we found out that the world won't actually end!" because they found this out and only then went to save Yuuna, that would be fine. And anyway, an honorable last stand against the god of heaven would have been a better thing than continuing the cycle of sacrifice. Hang on. Are you saying that everyone dying is better than a few people dying for the rest of them? Do you know how the capitalist society you live in right now works? |
logopolisJan 9, 2018 8:25 AM
| The Taisha are gone The Earth Gods are dead The World has been remade And Humans will have to start from square....21? I mean, they still have the knowledge of 21st century They'll be fine. And Yuuki Yuuna learned from the masters!! Going full Madoka Kaname and then punching the Gods like Tachibana Hibiki 100/100 |
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| god damn the visuals, but the ending was horrible So they all chose to wipe out humanity to save their friend; but of course because of some asspull they all get to live A shame these series started so well but went downhill every season. |
| I am not sure about the bird but I guess there's another spin off in the series as some ppl have said here to understand that. I found this really enjoyable to watch. All 6 episodes were engaging and I personally found them better than Wasshu ones. 8 or 8.5 for me, I am not sure. Gonna miss the cast. Also the OP was great tho the ED was nice too. |
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| Damn, what a finale. Didn't expect a happy ending to be honest, but I'm glad it was. A satisfying conclusion, but I'm going to miss the series and the girls ;__;.... Loved the sequel. 9/10. |
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jejehartadi said: I didn't pay enough attention before but actually the spirits designs revealed some of the heroes spirits' identity. Nice. (pic below for those who read NoWaYu) Chikage: that flower ornament on her hair Anzu: that weird side hair Tamako: Spiky hair Wakaba: the shape is pretty clear etc It would explain why I had no idea who the blue crow was. |
derprume said: Yea, this series like to include a novel character, like how Sonoko was in season 1 (Washio Sumi novel published before the anime aired).jejehartadi said: It would explain why I had no idea who the blue crow was.I didn't pay enough attention before but actually the spirits designs revealed some of the heroes spirits' identity. Nice. (pic below for those who read NoWaYu) Chikage: that flower ornament on her hair Anzu: that weird side hair Tamako: Spiky hair Wakaba: the shape is pretty clear etc While reading novel isn't absolutely necessary but they'd increase impact on your watch. Anime-only would be 'literaly who?' but novel readers would go 'poor Sonoko' in S1 or 'yay it's Wakaba' when they saw the crow in S2. If you're interested in other material |
| That Goddes Yuuna looked nice there and I can't believe it's finally over with the world being engulfed in flames. Now I just hope they will make a NoWaYu adaptation in the future! |
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| For the people asking, if it wasn't obvious, the composer is the same one as the Nier game series: Keiichi Okabe or more specifically his studio, MONACA as you might see on the opening credits. Their homepage |
| While this season made me like Yuuna because she was finally given some proper character development and depth, I have a feeling this was supposed to be a 12 episode season like the first one, the last two episodes in particular felt quite rushed and the final scene being mostly a slideshow disappointed me. It wasn't a bad series as overall, I really liked this ending and how it leaves the fate of the now godless world ambiguous, but it could have been presented much better if there were more episodes, or if the final episode was double-lengtrh at least. |
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| am so happy with this end as honestly after everything all the other generations went through this ending was well deserved to finally put the others to rest i loved the part with all the other heroes showing up and giving that new power to yuuna finally putting an end to all the bs thats been going on one thing that will say is i wish the ending was just a bit longer so just abit more of what their future holds but what we got is good enough though i feel this is the end of the yuyuyu series as a whole as i mean its how it feels and honestly should as this is what they all was fighting for after all but in the end we'll see loved this sequel and its end wonder if anything will be next but for now will continue playing the the yuiyuyu Mobile game |
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| So, Shinjuu-sama was like "My fiancee doesn't want to marry me, so I'll just strap a bomb in my chest and then explode so that I can destroy any future problem for her so that she can live a happy life." Poor Shinjuu-sama Well, technically they were rebelling against the main god that originally wanted to destroy life as we know it. While the reason was they were so drunk with their love towards humanity, that doesn't change the fact. I guess they sort of already saw this conclusion coming. Although, the whole self-destruction plan I don't think they planned it. I mean: if they were planning to martyr themselves in the first place, they would have done so 300 years ago when they were still way more powerful. Overall, it fixes holes as well creates new holes. But who cares? It's still exciting as it has always been. Now, time to go browse for some p*** |
| I understood the ending just fine and I haven't even touched the LNs or anything other than the anime content of this series. Honestly, I don't mean to be rude, but I think people who call this ending an asspull either didn't pay attention to what happened and what was established in the series before, or are just butthurt because it's not the grimdark Madoka ending they wanted, it's the "Clannad After Story ending is an asspull" discussion all over again. |
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| Very nice battles here. That part were all the old warriors spirits join Togo was very touching.The first one in red or the last one in the form of the bird, was Gin, I believe... I wish there was more. 8/10 |
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| As someone already mentioned, the anime is obviously for novel reader. Anime only watcher will have hard time understanding the show. Many unexplained things or not properly explained made this franchise unsuitable for anime only watcher. I still don't understand what Tougou engulfed in fire meant, the gods were burning her spirit? Yuna could 'save' her because the gods like her? They like her because she did Mankai many times? What about Sonoko? I think Sonoko has already Mankai more time Yuuna but she's not loved? According to some wiki, she already Mankai 20 times but somehow she's still alive, can see and can talk? The gods are obviously strong, they can erase Tougou existence, even the photos also lost her. The strong gods somehow got defeated by the girls with the help from a cow spirit who likes to chew dolls. |
| Wow, what a conclusion, breathtaking conclusion! Really intense final episode! So she really did manage to destroy Shinju and with Taisha gone people would have to rely upon themselves once again, not being the tools of false gods. Even if the barrier is gone now and the world has probably only several hundered years of an existence I consider this to be a happy end, finally! And the humankind has now all the time to invent other, more peaceful methods to save all the people. It's only telling that all previous imprisoned and sacrificed heroes that were held in the tree helped them overthrow the usurper and that Gin (the blue bird) was the one who guided them to destroy Shinju. Finally are free now and can find their peace. And have to say 'serves them right' to all fanatic priests who got turned into dust.. even though the teacher survived (probably because she still wasn't as ready to shed her humanity as every other priest) The episode had probably one of the best conclusions I have seen lately and with all the implications and grand messages this anime delivered it convinced me to up the score for the series, it's definetely worth to see. 7/10 Pretty much recommended as a whole, really did enjoy the final part. There were some weaker moments along the way but it's all redeemed in the end. |
Hana_Kitsune said: Mich666 said: Wow, what a conclusion, breathtaking conclusion! Really intense final episode! So she really did manage to destroy Shinju and with Taisha gone people would have to rely upon themselves once again, not being the tools of false gods. Even if the barrier is gone now and the world has probably only several hundered years of an existence I consider this to be a happy end, finally! And the humankind has now all the time to invent other, more peaceful methods to save all the people. It's only telling that all previous imprisoned and sacrificed heroes that were held in the tree helped them overthrow the usurper and that Gin (the blue bird) was the one who guided them to destroy Shinju. Finally are free now and can find their peace. And have to say 'serves them right' to all fanatic priests who got turned into dust.. even though the teacher survived (probably because she still wasn't as ready to shed her humanity as every other priest) The episode had probably one of the best conclusions I have seen lately and with all the implications and grand messages this anime delivered it convinced me to up the score for the series, it's definetely worth to see. 7/10 Pretty much recommended as a whole, really did enjoy the final part. There were some weaker moments along the way but it's all redeemed in the end. It's nice to see you enjoyed it. Though i'm sorry to interrupt but, that Blue Bird is not Gin. The Blue Bird resembles the 1st generation heroes' leader , Nogi Wakaba. Also, you got the wrong conclusion a bit. Yuuna managed to destroy the Heavenly god by the power she gained from the help of Shinju, who decided to take a bet on Humanity upon the fallen heores who came to help Yuuna and make Shinju to believe in Humanity once again. That's why the barrier is broken. And Then Gyuki who was supposed to disappear but not, decided to give its power to Yuuna, make her get into Dai-mankai form. Though with the effect of Dai-Mankai, it makes Shinju to has to disappear and give the future to humanity. i might need to tell the details about Gods in Yuusha series a bit. Shinju, the Holy Tree, is a Tree that gathered by the several gods to give the protection for the humanity. "Almost" gods within Shinju are Land Gods. There's another group of God, The Heavenly God. Eventhough the series didn't tell about the details about Gods, according to Shinto Myths, There's one of Heavenly Gods called, the Goddesses of Sun "Amaterasu". Well, that was my interpretation and I still stand by it, it works the best for me. The way they didn't explained it all in the anime was probably intentional for everyone to draw their own conclusions. I simply can't see both Shinju and Taisha as good beings/powers as they were using humans for very long time, they didn't care about them at all. And I saw their fall as a good thing cause humans will finally need to stand on their own. They lost the protection but gained their free will and the future. From the beginning of the first series it was constantly hinted Shinju and Taisha were the ones who betrayed humanity in the first place, tied them with lies and deceit with all those sacrifices. In a way they resembles QB from Madoka. And even Yuuna's chest symbol was proof of all that as it was clear Shinju manipulation. Even in the ending battle Shinju just willingly opened barrier breach at one place to slow them down. It's true there are many parallels to our current world in the anime and shinto myths are one example of that but I don't see those universes as connected therefore Yuushaverse can be fundamentally very different to even deduce that the gods in their myths were the same ones. And for me this was probably the best example of true humanism in face of the extinction in the anime recently. Another one would be Angelic Howl in Grisaia no Kajitsu game for example. To survive but not by any means necessary, not by the deaths of innocents, that's what it means to be human. |
Mich666Mar 8, 2018 3:14 AM
| Impressive episode! but not as impressive as the Supremacy EPICness of the Movie (which is eps 5 & 6 these two for me is much better in overall scoring) OST is EPIC from MONACA as well, as I've said feeling like sound track of NieR: Automata (since Keichi Okabe is on of the big guns of MONACA) So they (world) are not protected anymore by Shinju gods? Looks like the power of friendship conquers all huh... 5/5. 8/10. |
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| Hi can someone help me with correct order to see this anime and his precuels and sequels if it has it. P.D. :My englisn isnt very good :p |
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Luismy-Kun said: just the order they came out in original prequel sequel Hi can someone help me with correct order to see this anime and his precuels and sequels if it has it. P.D. :My englisn isnt very good :p |
| Lesbian heroes save everyone from turning into primordial soup. |
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| I'm so conflicted on this. On one hand, it got execution and...feels, I guess, down strong. It was breathtaking and engaging. On the other hand, there are a lot of problems with the writing. It's like the script for the series was horrible but the director was a genius. |
| Wow, that must be one of the biggest asspulls i've seen in a very long time. |
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| Wow, they even show all Yuusha in the past. I can see Nogi Wakaba groupm what a beautiful ending |
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| Fucking wow. It feels like deus ex machina (literally), but I don't care, it was way too epic :'D I loved every part starting from all past Yuusha appearing (including that bird who really was probably the one from the other LNs), and also Gin of course. And then bam, Yuuna gets an upgraded dai mankai, with all their powers combined (and an awesome new gauntlet). She looked so awesome! :D I also liked how all their flowers appeared during the hero punch, and an added tomoe (or to be more precise, a mitsudomoe, which as far as I know can symbolize man, earth and sky as well). Seriously, this whole scene just gives me goose bumps all over. I wonder about her eye though, and why sensei was missing one of hers. What could that mean? I was also wondering about the big round circle the Heavenly Gods fired through, with 12 or so holes and such... Maybe it doesn't mean anything. I'm happy that the trouble seems to have gone for good, with the Shinju-sama sacrificing itself to save the world (or is it the entire world or only Japan?). They'll have a lot of work to do by repopulating everything. I really liked this season. I wasn't a fan of Tougou/Wasshi since her destroying the wall and pretty much causing the whole curse thing here, with all of Yuuna's suffering :( Other than her though, everyone else was great. I'm especially happy for Sonoko coming back :D She and Yuuna were my favorites, with Karin and Fuu coming to second place. I felt like this season had a better pacing, and way less red herrings and "I'm sure everything is gonna be fine from now on!" and such :'D Seeing Yuuna (and the others as well somewhat) be in so much pain was very sad, but the writing was pretty good. And those scenes, while very painful, were done in a great way. I really cared about Yuuna. The OST and the animation were spectacular once again, but that's a given. I'm giving this season a 9/10, for how amazing it was, compared to the previous ones which were an 8/10 (1st season) and a 7/10 (prequel, which I unfortunately couldn't like as much as the other ones, even with Sonoko and the amazing last episode). While I liked all of them, there've been a few issues here and there, but overall they were all really good. Here's hoping they'll adapt the prequel LN that people talk about :) I'll be missing the girls, but I'm interested in that one as well. |
RazielZeroMay 10, 2018 5:12 PM
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| Having now just watched this a second time, i've been reminded of what an intense universe the YuYuYu franchise is. I have yet to read any non-anime content, like NoWaYu and KuMeYu etc, but getting the gist of all this is and never was particularly difficult. @mcpw @logopolis @art_las sorry i know it's been a while, but if you still want to understand more... similar or adding to what sroque said: Kind of going through it in order: The whole state of the world for the last 300 years has been Shinju as what i understand to be the Earth Gods, sided with humanity after the Heavenly Gods decided to purge humanity. This formed a war between the Earthly and Heavenly Gods, in which Shinju, trying to protect humanity, is unable to effectively fight the Heavenly Gods. The result is an Ark, a 300 year stalemate of Shinju doing all it can to simply stall the Heavenly Gods from finally achieving victory. The heavenly Gods destroyed the world and Shinju was only able to save some of it. Unable to effectively stall the Heavenly Gods, Shinju was forced to request and power up the purest and therefore strongest spirits of humans in order to continue maintaining hope and survival in an otherwise utterly hopeless situation. Shinju focuses on maintaining the barrier, and with the most energy it can spare, gives abilities and such to the yuushas, like the fairies and transformations and so on. -The spirits are avatars of Shinju -The vertexes are tools (vectors) of the Heavenly Gods Through WaSuYu it is shown that prior to YuYuYu, the yuushas had to fight as normal mortal combatants with their powers, but with so many actual life losses of yuushas, it was probably proving inefficient, or Shinju felt guilty, so it tried to come up with an alternative - give them ultimate protection at the cost of, what i can only assume is parts of their soul, as the actual body parts don't seem damaged, they just stop working. This also proved to be a mistake as the traumas and negative aspects were unexpectedly disastrous, as the abilities of the yuushas were completely diminished in an illogical way, as it was purely emotional reactions. One thing after another, all of the emotions tumbled into eachother in a domino effect which snowballed into Tougou's drastic suicidal behaviour. Tougou is offered to the Heavenly Gods in order to calm the Heavenly Gods, and keep it occupied during a period of Shinju being low on it's ability to maintain a strong protector force, as Shihju's and Taisha's mistakes lead to the group destabilizing which resulted in Tougou's extreme actions. The Heavenly Gods is sated by burning Tougou's sins. Tougou was branded with the mark. The yuushas go in to save Tougou after remembering it all, overpowering Shinju, who wiped everyone's memories, including Taisha's of her existence. Yuuna pulls Tougou from the grasp of the Heavenly Gods, and gets branded instead. --This i propose may have been planned by the Heavenly Gods. While the Heavenly Gods was for so long stalemated by the yuushas in fighting Shinju, it likely would have been thinking of ways to out-play and eventually reign victorious, hence the varying nature of the vertexes, the evasion of prediction, taking advantage of situations; they tried doing combinations and all sorts of stuff - threw easy kills at the yuushas to test them and measure their ability. When Tougou first blew the wall, the vertexes stopped caring as much about them, and focused on Shinjum the Leo targeted Shinju, and it was less concerned with Tougou, even if she thought she was being the target, it may have known that Tougou was going to dodge it anyway and was expecting it... The heavenly Gods' forces were eventually pushed back and they ritualistically diverted it's attention to Tougou. Depending how you think about it, it could have also been using this as a new opportunity. Perhaps the Heavenly Gods aided in them remembering Tougou so that they would go rescue her, and by transferring the brand, give it a backdoor into Shinju's domain. With my theory here Yuuna was more than just branded for death and infection, she was a trojan horse. Taisha and Shinju decide to marry Yuuna to Shinju to unite a potent pure soul and presumably rejuvenate Shinju's power. I doubt it has anything to do with Shinju being a creepy doomy pedo or something that is actually evil and wants to consume souls, it just doesn't have enough power and needs help (there being no other way it knows to get help), especially with the Heavenly Gods starting to win. The idea would be for people to escape deeper out of the Heavenly Gods' grasp and closer to Shinju, just a more extreme attempt to protect what it can. Heavenly Gods then goes full throttle and breaks into the weakened Shinju's barrier with full force. I suggest this is a dual tactic - not only is it a direct assault on Shinju, with my theory it is also to force the marriage to Shinju with Yuuna, who is branded with the trojan horse, which would destroy Shinju from the inside. If i am correct, then this means that the war was already over, as it stood, no matter what they did, the Heavenly Gods already won. Tougou's desire to save Yuuna despite everything, thinking she may doom the world to destruction by doing so, moves the hearts and heroic spirit of all the prior yuushas who, including Gin and Nogi Wakaba (who was probably the biggest influence as i presume she played a part in the establishment of Shinju's Ark world) band together to persuade Shinju to give them this chance to be free. It was time to put an end to the hopeless cycle or sacrifices to survive, and be free as people, even if it is only in their last moments. The heroic spirit is not in to commit mass suicide, but to at least have a chance to honourably fight for themselves or die trying. Shinju accepts their wish, being given new hope and bets everything on it. All the other avatars (spirits) vanish, except Gyuuki, which is used as the catalyst; Shinju, probably with plenty of regret for it's own sins, sacrifices itself, and through Gyuuki, gives all it's power to Yuuna for her to use the power her way (humanity's way) instead of Shinju's indirect way. In a brief moment of uncertainty everyone is faced directly with the Heavenly Gods as Yuuna faces off with equal force... well it would be equal if it was just Earth Gods vs Heavenly Gods, but this was Earth Gods AND humanity vs Heavenly Gods, which overpowered it, and broke the mirror (which i don't fully understand but is clearly a representation of the Heavenly Gods), removing the Heavenly Gods' influence from the physical world - if not killing it. ...I still remember the first time in YuYuYu it was revealed what was beyond the barrier and instantly i understood the world was already gone, and they're on a tiny protected island within that devastation. I originally had thought it was the entire universe was gone and converted to pure hellfire with the earth being a stellar mass given all the prominences, and that the vertexes were some kind of extra-dimensional invaders converting the universe to suit their universal climate (though i guess that's not entirely incorrect?)... That would have been intense and scary on a whole other level. However this war of the gods isn't a pushover story either, even if it is just the world that is fire. But by that moment of reveal seeing that the world was already gone, i immediately determined YuYuYu was darker and more intense in a more subtle suggestive way than the edgefest that is Madoka Magica. >I should point out that in most fiction, and in actual mythology, gods are depicted as very pure, in the sense they are very emotional and even childlike. They are often naive and make many mistakes, and are very simple-minded. If you think of Shinju in the sense of a mythological god as a powerful naive child, then you can understand all of the stupid mistakes and regret that would add up. Also thinking of the Heavenly Gods as an equally foolish naive person having a tantrum over a failure or something, then that is also easy to understand. The only thing that i don't care for is the emphasis on "now people will have to fight for limited resources"... If the world is barren friggin ruins, then there is PLENTIFUL resource, you just have to go get it instead of it always refilling in the same spot. It just made it sound like Shinju was just benevolently providing their needs and the fight was over the utopic convenience of endless resources in the same places, when it was truly much more intense and dire than that petty crap... Also, with how incredible and potent and relevant this all was, as another story of saving the world, however this time it took 300 years to do it, that shit should be on record the same as mythology is today, heralded as one of if not the most important parts of human history, and every player in it, as in all the yuushas being beloved highly appreciated individuals, all of this SHOULD be recorded and be made known. Allowing it all to vanish into obscurity and everyone live normally like nothing happened, while that is a fairly japanese thing to do, it would be a crime to not remember all of the noble sacrifices and all of the people who together took 300 years to solve an extinction crisis. At least after her death (being given time to live a normal life), Yuuna's story being then told as the tale of the one who saved the world, with the help of everyone before her to make it possible. ***Again, as someone who hasn't read any of the other material in this mutimedia franchise, this is my understanding. I'm also once again reminded i need to get my ass around to reading NoWaYu etc lol. The YuYuYu fanbase is crazy and extremely motivated and loves their stuff, they fan-translate the hell out of everything and make everything easy to find. Not to mention they're pretty active (reddit and discord etc). I'm glad there is stuff like this with active knowledgeable fanbases, as there are plenty of series and franchises that don't have any and i hate not having any resources or anywhere to talk more about it if i want to. Lovers of YuYuYu are lucky. |
GenesisAriaAug 29, 2019 2:38 AM
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| ....okay. I'm starting to understand that I will never find a serious anime that doesn't end with an ass pull. I will just watch the slice of life shows, at least those don't pretend they have a plot. |
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