| I'm completely baffled at how this show makes all men in uniform so incompetent. Like, it didn't just happen once, when Dorothy completely fools these men guarding valuable things just with the " sexual look ". I don't know, it just felt really stupid. Thoughts on this instance in the anime? |
| Look at the main cast, then look again, then you understand that this show cannot be taken seriously. |
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Swagernator said: still though, they could have done something better than that bsLook at the main cast, then look again, then you understand that this show cannot be taken seriously. |
| It does happen a little too often. Obviously just there for Dorothy fanservice. She's hot, sure, but I'm glad the recent episode gave us a deeper look into her character. |
| @Swagernator But it's hard to think like that when the show keeps this super-serious tone like it was so serious. |
| It's anime not real life a show can be serious without being 100% realistic |
| Oh you mean like real life women agents do all the time? stop being a jealous woman. |
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| Pretty stupid and annoying. |
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| I don't think you were ever meant to take this show seriously. It's about moe high school girls who are spies in steampunk Victorian London. That's was my hint, at least. You are right on some level. It is a very stupid show, but I'm sticking with it because I can get enjoyment out of it's stupidity, on that so-bad-it's-good spectrum. It's kind of weird. The episodes so far seem to be either amazing or laugh-out-loud awful. Episode 6 I thought was really well written and planned out, but episode 5 was so terrible I was in hysterics on the floor. |
| @jgomezg Even with dramatic events featured along the course of its episodic adventures, Cobra never felt like a series taking itself seriously. That's the reason you can accept what it does so easily compared to something like what we have here. @jgomezg I see. "Dramatic events" was considering deaths too. It just never occured to me that those events were "serious business" unlike when I watch this new series (who isn't serious but sounds so most of the time for me). (maybe because of my age back then, after all) |
Rei_IIIAug 23, 2017 10:30 PM
| Yeah, I do find it stupid. It's not entirely impossible, though. But at the same time.. it's bad writing. But at the same time.. they're just little girls for the most part, so what were we expecting, tbh? |
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| idk how 'it's so bad its good' was even brought up. this is one of the better series this season. Bond movies take itself seriously desptie having similarly outrageous stuff. In fact, the vast majority of the action flicks out there does the same. Realism is never a thing in fiction. There is only a select few. Really doesn't bother me at all. It is a common trope in fiction, its not only in this anime. It is in bunch of anime and TV shows. It only happened twice so far, so hardly excessive. Its not impossible IRL either, though unlikely. Its not abused to the point it should matter. Admittedly, a lot of the scenarios do have a number of "spy genre" tropes but it is executed reasonably well. The series does well in the action, characters and the atmosphere. It also slowly world build and character develop slowly so it feel natural. Most show does not since they like to put it in one episode and info-dump. Now that's poor writing. Clearly not present here. Obviously there are fan-service with it being a all under-aged female cast but good thing they don't show boobs and panties every scene. They just have cute girl characters and left that as the extent of its fan service. The show isn't perfect but I would say it is well above average. The only thing that would appear stupid at first is schoolgirl spies, but for the most part, you don't even notice since that is the basis for the character design not the actual plot. The fact you see it is Victorian steampunk with school girl shouldn't have you expecting accurate spy action. Note female spies existed since WW1, it is important to use females in a society that assumes they won't be the one. Of course it is a good mix of both genders. Just not underage females. Spy work includes for the most part, fairly mundane activities. They are there long term for a SINGLE MISSION. So expect one 'villain' in the series and not much actual action. Spying usually involves the person being a moderate rank, neither too high or too low so probably NCO or a bit above. Receives enough information but not high enough to attract much attention. They observe military capabilities, resources, morale and stuff like that. If they over hear stuff, that would also help. Or catch a glimpse of something unusual going on. And to that end, usually act as if they are part of the military and pass on the information. Such method means his information is very local, hence usually a entire spy network is set up so multiple spies can pitch in various small information. There are exceptions but not all that glamorous. Most exciting part is probably recruiting/befriending locals/members... Sounds hollywood but its true according to interviews. The spy usually do not know much themselves as information gathered isn't matched together himself(they can but its not their job) but by the intelligence network. The intelligence then combines the information with signal intelligence, cryptology, visual observation, interrogation, and geographical/time deductions to come to a conclusion. Spies are like the guys that get interrogated except they don't hide anything. The spy may not know much but when combined with various small data, it can reveal a lot. Its not exactly action packed assassin crap. They don't kill, I'll tell you that much and definitely doesn't work alone. At least the character can be relatable since the intelligence community recruits average joes to blend in. They train you to be a good actor and practically a psychologist observing yourself and other's social behaviors. Sounds cool, but to do mundane stuff... |
zcv45Aug 23, 2017 9:34 PM
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ichii_1 said: Oh you mean like real life women agents do all the time? stop being a jealous woman. Yup I think so too I find finding the series stupid, stupid :) |
| I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something. People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English. |
| funny how all the complains in this thread lead up to one conclusion that the reason people hate it is because it's a bunch of teenage girls (instead of boys.) I thought the world is ending when hebephiles and pedophiles finally united. I was wrong. |
Revvie-chan said: funny how all the complains in this thread lead up to one conclusion that the reason people hate it is because it's a bunch of teenage girls (instead of boys.) I thought the world is ending when hebephiles and pedophiles finally united. I was wrong. I am a boy and I find the spy female is far , far cooler than male :) |
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| I found it stupid because they constantly shouted "We are spies!!!' Oh, I know they are spies already, no need to remind it every 5 minutes or so, aren't spies supposed to be more discreet? |
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| My issue isn't so much that the men are incompotent, more that as far as spies go our main characters are really not that impressive at all. While their plans usually work, they usually take way too many risks that, in any logical situation, would completely blow their cover. Take last week's episode, with the Princess buying the mill: that alone would have completely blown their cover, never mind the stuff with Chise having to deal with the bad guy and not accounting for or dealing with witnesses. Then yesterday's episode, with Ange needlessly revealing what she can do in front of the pickpocket girl and the other orphans, and then doing nothing to cover her tracks afterwards. Also, back in the episode with Dorothy's father, she took no precautions to avoid having her cover blown by the debt collector who appeared at the mill in the next episode (which chronologically took place before meeting her father. I'm sure there's more examples, but these are the main ones that have really stuck in my mind. Seriously, they've left such an obvious trail that Normandy's agents should really have found them by now and at least tried to deal with them accordingly; the fact that this hasn't happened at this point is downright ludicrous in all honesty, and bothers me far more than anything else (other than the sheer amount of conveniences and coincidences to make the back story from yesterday's episode possible). Saying that, the sheer perfection of the execution of the switch (which is NOT A TWIST as it was pretty much outright stated way back in episode 2) is easily the best spy work in this entire show, which is kinda saying something when it wasn't even intended to be spy work to begin with. |
AtavisticAug 28, 2017 1:13 AM
| "While their plans usually work, they usually take way too many risks that, in any logical situation, would completely blow their cover. " So James bond movies... Spy films are always like that. Over-the-top, illogically convenient and unrealistic. I just don't understand the complaints on something that is obvious when going in. Just like if you are to go in a harem show, don't complain that there's a harem. These complaints only seem valid if the show was supposed to be a legitimate realistic spy anime.-its not though. Two wrong don't make a right but based on the entire setting and premise of the series, that's exactly what you should be expecting. What I enjoy about this show is the execution of the characters/the true plot and not actually the missions themselves. The mission are there to just further the characters interaction, development and history. I think that's what to be truly enjoyed when watching. The plot isn't about the two sides fighting or spying or whatever. Not even Normandy is truly the main villain. He is a major antagonist but if you look at the focus, it is the Princess and Ange. That's the real plot and the main characters is center focus. |
zcv45Aug 28, 2017 1:42 PM
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zcv45 said: "While their plans usually work, they usually take way too many risks that, in any logical situation, would completely blow their cover. " So James bond movies... Spy films are always like that. Over-the-top, illogically convenient and unrealistic. I just don't understand the complaints on something that is obvious when going in. Just like if you are to go in a harem show, don't complain that there's a harem. These complaints only seem valid if the show was supposed to be a legitimate realistic spy anime.-its not though. Two wrong don't make a right but based on the entire setting and premise of the series, that's exactly what you should be expecting. What I enjoy about this show is the execution of the characters/the true plot and not actually the missions themselves. The mission are there to just further the characters interaction, development and history. I think that's what to be truly enjoyed when watching. The plot isn't about the two sides fighting or spying or whatever. Not even Normandy is truly the main villain. He is a major antagonist but if you look at the focus, it is the Princess and Ange. That's the real plot and the main characters is center focus. And that's part of the problem. Like a lot of anime, it's just using this spy stuff as a back drop to cute girls doing cute things, which is both depressing and incredibly boring. Not only that, but the execution of the characters is also incredibly cliche and, in the case of episode 8's back story, riddled with ridiculous holes and implausibility to the point that it's nearly impossible to take seriously (the actual switch was executed as well, but everything leading up to that stretched my suspense of disbelief too far). Honestly, this show's concept of character writing is to give each character a tragic past and that's about it: look at Dorothy's episode with her father, Beatrice's focus episode, Chise's focus episode and episode 8 as perfect evidence of this. Basically, the show isn't committed to its setting or general premise, and may as well just be a normal show of cute girls doing cute things, with the added addition of generic tragic background stories. The whole spy thing is just a lousy attempt to draw in a wider audience because CGDCT shows have been done to death and then some at this point. |
| But they aren't doing cute things. They have cute girls and that's probably as far as they go in terms of moe show. I will agree the backstory is not very unique and fairly generic but its not like one can't enjoy it. Cliche? I guess but I don;t think it was executed poorly. Many things are a cliche, its just really how it is executed and from what I see, it wasn't that poorly done. But everyone have their own opinion. |
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Prog_upworks13 said: Revvie-chan said: funny how all the complains in this thread lead up to one conclusion that the reason people hate it is because it's a bunch of teenage girls (instead of boys.) I thought the world is ending when hebephiles and pedophiles finally united. I was wrong. I am a boy and I find the spy female is far , far cooler than male :) nice, then. :) ps.: lol that ava. =D Nice stuff, that one. |
Same too, it's rare to see female badass leads nowadays, but srsly I just can't take Chise seriously. Beatrice too, with her voice changer.. Tho I find this series very addicting. One of my favorites this season. |
EGOIST said: I'm completely baffled at how this show makes all men in uniform so incompetent. Like, it didn't just happen once, when Dorothy completely fools these men guarding valuable things just with the " sexual look ". I don't know, it just felt really stupid. Thoughts on this instance in the anime? By that standard, James Bond is basically a terrorist then. |
| oh look.. another "let me express my disapproval" thread.. and ofc, obligatory fanservice whining its just another one of the 62847570459725094726 dark but not necessarily meant to be taken seriously anime.. whats new? don't watch |
EcchiGodMamsterSep 3, 2017 9:44 AM
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| 'Anyone else find this stupid?' nope. I find people who saying that this series is stupid, well, stupid. And is something caring about it? Probably not, exactly like almost no one is caring about your lack of taste. Btw, studio 3Hz (I love them from the very beginning and their Sora no Method ) managed to get me interested (and keep my attention to this moment) into steampunk setting. This is not easy thing to do in my case. Ps it's a fiction, not a history documentary. Fiction that needs to be enjoyable (and it is super enjoyable), not faithful to historical facts, clothes, whatever else. Just saying, because probably not all people here are aware of it. |
rsc-plSep 3, 2017 12:38 PM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| No I don't find it stupid. Threads like this are stupid. If you don't like it drop it an move on, we don't need some whiny post trying to convince the vast majority of people who actually like and enjoy the show. |
Zelev said: Yeah, I do find it stupid. It's not entirely impossible, though. But at the same time.. it's bad writing. But at the same time.. they're just little girls for the most part, so what were we expecting, tbh? Dude, this show has probably the best writing of this year. |
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Rufix said: Zelev said: Yeah, I do find it stupid. It's not entirely impossible, though. But at the same time.. it's bad writing. But at the same time.. they're just little girls for the most part, so what were we expecting, tbh? Dude, this show has probably the best writing of this year. How many times has Dorothy used the power of boobs in a mission? You call that good writing? Uhh.. |
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Zelev said: How many times has Dorothy used the power of boobs in a mission? You call that good writing? Uhh.. And that's all? It's her role in the team, being a seductress. It's proper use of a character, she has no other "special powers" and makes do with what she has. How hard is that to understand? Simple solution to a simple problem... Uhhhh. How many fine details and hidden hints did you notice? |
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Rufix said: Zelev said: How many times has Dorothy used the power of boobs in a mission? You call that good writing? Uhh.. And that's all? It's her role in the team, being a seductress. It's proper use of a character, she has no other "special powers" and makes do with what she has. How hard is that to understand? Simple solution to a simple problem... Uhhhh. How many fine details and hidden hints did you notice? "Proper use of character" ..In other words, she's useless. Lmao. |
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| Yes because you're the only one in this WHOLE community of MAL that finds this anime "stupid". -rolls eyes- |
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Zelev said: Rufix said: And that's all? It's her role in the team, being a seductress. It's proper use of a character, she has no other "special powers" and makes do with what she has. How hard is that to understand? Simple solution to a simple problem... Uhhhh. How many fine details and hidden hints did you notice? "Proper use of character" ..In other words, she's useless. Lmao. Considering she does things that neither Ange, Princess, Beatrice nor Chise can do, saying that she's useless is either stupidity or ignorance. I get it, power of boobs is so evil... But damn, go out, look around and accept it... Power of boobs is real. |
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Rufix said: Considering she does things that neither Ange, Princess, Beatrice nor Chise can do, saying that she's useless is either stupidity or ignorance. I get it, power of boobs is so evil... But damn, go out, look around and accept it... Power of boobs is real. What are these "things" you speak of, though? :P |
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Zelev said: Rufix said: Considering she does things that neither Ange, Princess, Beatrice nor Chise can do, saying that she's useless is either stupidity or ignorance. I get it, power of boobs is so evil... But damn, go out, look around and accept it... Power of boobs is real. What are these "things" you speak of, though? :P Hmm, disabling guards for infiltration attempts without hurting them in anyway? No missing guard = no alert. - Beatrice cannot be seen to do it. - As seen in the flying ship infiltration episode Charlotte has no such power either - Chise would just kill them. - Ange would either use her cavorite to move above them, or hit them in the head a few times, while the former will raise no alert, we've already seen she can't use her magic ball for prolonged periods of time, and it won't allow the rest of the team to move in. She can also get close to VIPs, like the PM in episode two (although it failed due to counterspy measures). Not even VIPs, but any male characters. At the same time we see her being at least proficient with martial arts, which she used when fighting Chise and the debt collector dude. But, I have to agree, that before rewatching, I thought of this show as something "nice", however a friend of mine urged me to rewatch very carefully. Only then I've understood how well written and thought out this thing is. |
HuggykazeSep 5, 2017 7:14 AM
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Rufix said: Hmm, disabling guards for infiltration attempts without hurting them in anyway? No missing guard = no alert. - Beatrice cannot be seen to do it. - As seen in the flying ship infiltration episode Charlotte has no such power either - Chise would just kill them. - Ange would either use her cavorite to move above them, or hit them in the head a few times, while the former will raise no alert, we've already seen she can't use her magic ball for prolonged periods of time, and it won't allow the rest of the team to move in. She can also get close to VIPs, like the PM in episode two (although it failed due to counterspy measures). Not even VIPs, but any male characters. At the same time we see her being at least proficient with martial arts, which she used when fighting Chise and the debt collector dude. But, I have to agree, that before rewatching, I thought of this show as something "nice", however a friend of mine urged me to rewatch very carefully. Only then I've understood how well written and thought out this thing is. All the things you listed are because of her chest. We already went over this. |
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Zelev said: Rufix said: Hmm, disabling guards for infiltration attempts without hurting them in anyway? No missing guard = no alert. - Beatrice cannot be seen to do it. - As seen in the flying ship infiltration episode Charlotte has no such power either - Chise would just kill them. - Ange would either use her cavorite to move above them, or hit them in the head a few times, while the former will raise no alert, we've already seen she can't use her magic ball for prolonged periods of time, and it won't allow the rest of the team to move in. She can also get close to VIPs, like the PM in episode two (although it failed due to counterspy measures). Not even VIPs, but any male characters. At the same time we see her being at least proficient with martial arts, which she used when fighting Chise and the debt collector dude. But, I have to agree, that before rewatching, I thought of this show as something "nice", however a friend of mine urged me to rewatch very carefully. Only then I've understood how well written and thought out this thing is. All the things you listed are because of her chest. We already went over this. Air ship episode, she doesn't use her chest to seduce the guard. You had asked about how boobs are proper use of a character, I answered. If you wanted me to list other uses for her character, you should have learnt how to formulate a proper question first. But sure... She's a skilled driver and fighter, the former is probably another thing only she can do (or at least is superior to Ange at it, Chise's country has no cars it seems, Princess and Beatrice are rich girls, they don't need to drive). It's not hard to notice that she's also the strategist of the team and, generally, operational leader calling the shots. But sure, you can keep saying she's useless ;) |
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Rufix said: Air ship episode, she doesn't use her chest to seduce the guard. You had asked about how boobs are proper use of a character, I answered. If you wanted me to list other uses for her character, you should have learnt how to formulate a proper question first. But sure... She's a skilled driver and fighter, the former is probably another thing only she can do (or at least is superior to Ange at it, Chise's country has no cars it seems, Princess and Beatrice are rich girls, they don't need to drive). It's not hard to notice that she's also the strategist of the team and, generally, operational leader calling the shots. But sure, you can keep saying she's useless ;) Lol someone got triggered. I can feel the pettiness oozing out of you. I like how you give another seduction example, as if that really justifies good writing. Literally anyone can drive at her age, lmao? That's nothing special. Even children were driving in this time period, although I don't expect you to know history. Who actually carries out those "strategies"? Everyone else 90% of the time. Wink wink. |
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Zelev said: Rufix said: Air ship episode, she doesn't use her chest to seduce the guard. You had asked about how boobs are proper use of a character, I answered. If you wanted me to list other uses for her character, you should have learnt how to formulate a proper question first. But sure... She's a skilled driver and fighter, the former is probably another thing only she can do (or at least is superior to Ange at it, Chise's country has no cars it seems, Princess and Beatrice are rich girls, they don't need to drive). It's not hard to notice that she's also the strategist of the team and, generally, operational leader calling the shots. But sure, you can keep saying she's useless ;) Lol someone got triggered. I can feel the pettiness oozing out of you. I like how you give another seduction example, as if that really justifies good writing. Literally anyone can drive at her age, lmao? That's nothing special. Even children were driving in this time period, although I don't expect you to know history. Who actually carries out those "strategies"? Everyone else 90% of the time. Wink wink. Didn't expect you to know the rules of warfare... Strategies are never carried out by people who come up with them. None successful military allowed its brain to go out and risk their life. Yes, everyone can drive the way she does. I'm not sure whether we're watching the same show, but she's closer to Tony Hawk of driving, than to my grandma. But yeah, missing the point on purpose makes you non-petty ;) Wink. Wink. Seduction != boobs, I gave you another examples of her usefulness, however you chose to ignore them to pathetically stick to your flawed argumentation. But, I see that I'm unable to convince you, be it my failure or your shallowness/trolliness/inability to see what's on the screen. Wink. Wink. PS. The moment I get triggered, you'll start crying... Don't be so touchy ;) |
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Rufix said: Zelev said: Lol someone got triggered. I can feel the pettiness oozing out of you. I like how you give another seduction example, as if that really justifies good writing. Literally anyone can drive at her age, lmao? That's nothing special. Even children were driving in this time period, although I don't expect you to know history. Who actually carries out those "strategies"? Everyone else 90% of the time. Wink wink. Didn't expect you to know the rules of warfare... Strategies are never carried out by people who come up with them. None successful military allowed its brain to go out and risk their life. Yes, everyone can drive the way she does. I'm not sure whether we're watching the same show, but she's closer to Tony Hawk of driving, than to my grandma. But yeah, missing the point on purpose makes you non-petty ;) Wink. Wink. Seduction != boobs, I gave you another examples of her usefulness. But, I see that I'm unable to convince you, be it my failure or your shallowness/trolliness/inability to see what's on the screen. Wink. Wink. But earlier you said she was a skilled fighter? Now you admit she doesn't even carry out her own plans? Which is it? Lmao They're spies. It doesn't take a genius to put the gear shift in drive and press the gas, lmao. Or are you saying it's too hard for them? :/ Rufix: boobs is good writing Me: ..Ok Rufix: You're shallow. Me: l.m.a.o. Whatever you say, dude. |
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Zelev said: Rufix said: Didn't expect you to know the rules of warfare... Strategies are never carried out by people who come up with them. None successful military allowed its brain to go out and risk their life. Yes, everyone can drive the way she does. I'm not sure whether we're watching the same show, but she's closer to Tony Hawk of driving, than to my grandma. But yeah, missing the point on purpose makes you non-petty ;) Wink. Wink. Seduction != boobs, I gave you another examples of her usefulness. But, I see that I'm unable to convince you, be it my failure or your shallowness/trolliness/inability to see what's on the screen. Wink. Wink. But earlier you said she was a skilled fighter? Now you admit she doesn't even carry out her own plans? Which is it? Lmao They're spies. It doesn't take a genius to put the gear shift in drive and press the gas, lmao. Or are you saying it's too hard for them? :/ Rufix: boobs is good writing Me: ..Ok Rufix: You're shallow. Me: l.m.a.o. Whatever you say, dude. I like, how you are missing the most important parts of my posts in your answers. But let me reiterate this for you. No strategist ever goes to the frontlines if they can avoid it, however, we've seen Dorothy fight in episodes that required it - Japanese envoys escort and morgue episodes. The former was forced by circumstances, as the mission required all of the girls and due to the way escorting works, she had to be on spot, and due to lack of Chise in the team, Ange herself couldn't handle patrolling the entire train on her own. In the latter, her emotions took over. "They're spies. It doesn't take a genius to put the gear shift in drive and press the gas, lmao. Or are you saying it's too hard for them? :/" It was never shown or even indicated in the show that any of them, save Dorothy, can drive in such an extreme way. I never said none of them could drive, I said that none of them can drive like Jason Statham in the Transporter. If you are able to do so, then why spend time on a forum instead of becoming pro driver for RedBull? It's just "gear shift in drive and press the gas" after all. Well, even if you do, majority of people certainly can't. Furthermore, even normal driving tends to be hard, even for highly educated people. I'll leave searching for statistic on percentage of accidents caused by professors and phd holders, to you. For all we know cars may be rather fresh invention in the universe, so driving one in any way, may be a rare ability. Also, I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth. I never said boobs are good writing, I said that using character features to their fullest, be it boobs, driving or voice changing collar is good writing. Show being able to utilize every feature of a certain character is doing a good job, and if you don't understand that, you should read a proper book. Also, let's not forget that most, if not all, spy movies/shows have female spies use their feminine charms. It's one of many things that kunoichi used in Edo Japan. They lacked physical prowess and social standing of men, so instead they used their... boobs (among other things). Before you say that D only uses her boobs - it's part of the genre. I'll remind you about the air ship infiltration scene, where her boobs are completely covered, yet she is able to get on the vessel. So you can't say that her main asset are boobs, as she's already shown that she's perfectly capable of operating without using them. |
HuggykazeSep 6, 2017 1:02 PM
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Rufix said: Zelev said: But earlier you said she was a skilled fighter? Now you admit she doesn't even carry out her own plans? Which is it? Lmao They're spies. It doesn't take a genius to put the gear shift in drive and press the gas, lmao. Or are you saying it's too hard for them? :/ Rufix: boobs is good writing Me: ..Ok Rufix: You're shallow. Me: l.m.a.o. Whatever you say, dude. I like, how you are missing the most important parts of my posts in your answers. But let me reiterate this for you. No strategist ever goes to the frontlines if they can avoid it, however, we've seen Dorothy fight in episodes that required it - Japanese envoys escort and morgue episodes. The former was forced by circumstances, as the mission required all of the girls and due to the way escorting works, she had to be on spot, and due to lack of Chise in the team, Ange herself couldn't handle patrolling the entire train on her own. In the latter, her emotions took over. "They're spies. It doesn't take a genius to put the gear shift in drive and press the gas, lmao. Or are you saying it's too hard for them? :/" It was never shown or even indicated in the show that any of them, save Dorothy, can drive in such an extreme way. I never said none of them could drive, I said that none of them can drive like Jason Statham in the Transporter. If you are able to do so, then why spend time on a forum instead of becoming pro driver for RedBull? It's just "gear shift in drive and press the gas" after all. Well, even if you do, majority of people certainly can't. Furthermore, even normal driving tends to be hard, even for highly educated people. I'll leave searching for statistic on percentage of accidents caused by professors and phd holders, to you. For all we know cars may be rather fresh invention in the universe, so driving one in any way, may be a rare ability. Also, I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth. I never said boobs are good writing, I said that using character features to their fullest, be it boobs, driving or voice changing collar is good writing. Show being able to utilize every feature of a certain character is doing a good job, and if you don't understand that, you should read a proper book. Also, let's not forget that most, if not all, spy movies/shows have female spies use their feminine charms. It's one of many things that kunoichi used in Edo Japan. They lacked physical prowess and social standing of men, so instead they used their... boobs (among other things). Before you say that D only uses her boobs - it's part of the genre. I'll remind you about the air ship infiltration scene, where her boobs are completely covered, yet she is able to get on the vessel. So you can't say that her main asset are boobs, as she's already shown that she's perfectly capable of operating without using them. Bruh, Dorothy doesn't even come up with every plan. You give her way too much credit there. There are episodes where Dorothy doesn't drive in an extreme way. She just simply drives in a normal fashion. What do car crashes/accidents have to do with this? >calls me shallow >tells me to not put words in his mouth ..the irony. I will admit that if a writer uses a character's features to their fullest, then they are doing something right. However, if the writer continues to do the same thing over and over (like he has with Dorothy), then that's very predictable and unimaginative; eventually, it loses the weight it originally once had. That is shallow writing. That is where I disagree with you. |
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Bozzzz said: Zelev said: Bruh, Dorothy doesn't even come up with every plan. You give her way too much credit there. There are episodes where Dorothy doesn't drive in an extreme way. She just simply drives in a normal fashion. What do car crashes/accidents have to do with this? >calls me shallow >tells me to not put words in his mouth ..the irony. I will admit that if a writer uses a character's features to their fullest, then they are doing something right. However, if the writer continues to do the same thing over and over (like he has with Dorothy), then that's very predictable and unimaginative; eventually, it loses the weight it originally once had. That is shallow writing. That is where I disagree with you. You know that last post is real nonsense. I get the feeling you don't like Dorothy and would like to prove it but not really working out. I don't like her either but I still agree a bit more with @Rufix I wonder what your first clue was. |
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