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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Meanwhile, Umibouzu is alive (luckily) and Kamui seems like a better person now. Everyone’s badly injured though, but luckily we still have some comedic moment in this episode. And now we got back a bit in time to show what happened with Takasugi. And it’s time for Oboro’s flashback, which will also be the climax of this arc. We get to know how Oboro got his slight regenerative powers and how Utsuro (well, with more Shouyou characteristics) helped him as a child. And we get to know how Oboro was Shouyou’s first disciple. And after so long, we finally get to see how the old Joui rebels and their companions are doing. And the final major fight of the arc, Takasugi vs. Oboro’s is happening. Man, poor Oboro was a good kid, but it was expected that Sorachi will make Oboro seem good by the end. I mean, very few Gintama villains remain as villains. Though out of all of the Gintama villains, Oboro’s probably one of the more likable ones. Damn, Takasugi’s not gonna eat anything for a while now. And it seems like Oboro lost the fight. The fight was really short though, especially compared to the really lengthy Kamui fight. And this episode is one of the slower paced episodes of the arc. 3 chapters adapted (590-592), while rearranging things for the better. It was smart to adapt chapter 592 before 590 and 591 so it’ll flow better and they can end the episode on a higher note. Some of the flashbacks were rearranged (like how Utsuro's flashback starts just when the fight starts instead of before it). Next episode will be the conclusion of the Rakuyou arc. 5/5 |
GoldenDevilGamerMar 19, 2017 10:50 AM
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| Ah my favorite part of this arc. Once again, behold Gorilla-sensei's ability to make a seemingly unlikable and uninteresting villain suddenly become one of the most well-developed and likable characters by giving them such emotional backstories. Oboro T_T |
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| Gorilla-sensei, can you please stop making me feel bad for the people I should hate? Hugs, joe_g7. |
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| Oboro was the true Senpai that Gin and co needed, but they didn't deserve him. I agree that he should have had 1 more final clash with Gintoki, and possibly get killed by him, after Gin finds out about his backstory and how he was Shouyo's first disciple as well, but sadly we never got this. Having Oboro die from Takasugi was hella stupid from Sorachi. |
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Ramkec said: Oboro was the true Senpai that Gin and co needed, but they didn't deserve him. I agree that he should have had 1 more final clash with Gintoki, and possibly get killed by him, after Gin finds out about his backstory and how he was Shouyo's first disciple as well, but sadly we never got this. Having Oboro die from Takasugi was hella stupid from Sorachi. Not really. This battle was staged for a pretty poignant reason. Takasugi and Oboro stood at the opposite end of the political spectrum, and has come into clash numerous times via proxy (ex: sadasada's death). Their ideologies contrast each other ironically, since both loved the same person but decided to go down different paths to the extreme. Gintoki who no longer fights for Shoyou alone would not have cared for the revelation as much as Takasugi, nor does it affect how he carries out his future plans. |
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| This episode really wrapped up a lot about the series' backstory. I hella enjoyed this episode and feel quite bad for Oboro. But damn Takasugi got impaled on his cheeks! I really cannot imagine how it feels like! |
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| Really great episode. Change the chapters alignment. It's strange but good idea BNP. |
| Oh, Kamui...why must you make me cry?? ;-; This was an especially feelsy episode, and definitely shed some well needed light on Oboro's past. Looks like he's gonna finally kick the bucket...I mean, I don't really care bc I don't like the guy but I 'get' him more now! He tried to do a real selfless and righteous thing by sacrificing himself for Shoyo's dream, but surviving and seeing him with Gin and the rest years later is sure to plant the seeds of bitterness in almost anyone. I laughed at Umibozu's cannon arms haha XD Preview said there's a big announcement next week...wonder what that's all about? Maybe something to do with the manga, live-action or the episode count for this season?? O_O |
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| Oboro had an interesting connection to Shouyou-sensei. In the end he wanted Shouyou and his Junior students to have great lives, but his sacrifice was more mentally damaging than he probably expected it to be. Also cliffhangers like this should be illegal! |
| Amazing episode as always. It was great to see Kamui standing up again and walking away with the spirit of freedom of a pirate. Such a cool scene. :3 Glad to see Umibozu still alive, totally don't want him to die. It was nice hearing him reflect on how no matter what happens, the bonds of their family will always bring the three of them together. :) I started tearing up when Gin and Shinpachi told Kagura to not submit a resignation letter but a leave letter and then Kagura pulled a fast one on me with the paid leave letter. XD Damn it, Gintama. Can't help but tear up and smile at the same time. Oboro's past was great, very nice contrast of both his and Takasugi's ideology regarding Shoyo. The backstory also shed a lot of light regarding how Crow became Shoyo and eventually back to Utsuro. Oboro is a really loyal guy, I have respect for him given the lengths he went too for protecting Shoyo's ideals. R.I.P Oboro. There's only one question I have regarding his flashback, he states that he was the one who helped capture Shoyo, did he do this out of jealousy? What's this big announcement next week? :o |
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| Well, it's sad so. He quit a teacher. >,> |
| Haha Umibozu with those Cannon arms & Kagura asking for paid leave. Poor Oboro. Tried so hard to protect Shoyo & could've been a disciple with the others. |
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| Too much feel on 1 episode can't hold em all this scene break me  Gorilla can make you feel bad to "evil" dude in very short flashback 100/10 12 ep for this season? dam it |
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| Kagura should have known by now that if you are in Yorozuya you shouldn't ask about having a paid vacation. Lol, cool new hands for Umibozu. Damn, I didn't think that I would feel bad about Oboro. Also major announcement next week, probably news about a new season, maybe the final one? |
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Ulquiorra said: Well its already supposed to keep going this spring since they already announced the next artists for opening and ending and their PV of the next arc. Maybe its just to double confirm that it continue thoKagura should have known by now that if you are in Yorozuya you shouldn't ask about having a paid vacation. Lol, cool new hands for Umibozu. Damn, I didn't think that I would feel bad about Oboro. Also major announcement next week, probably news about a new season, maybe the final one? |
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| With all due respect, I feel like this current arc has made me realized that I don't give a flying f*ck about the overall plot of Gintama. I watch Gintama for the humor, the well-written dialogue and the clever parodies, and I have found myself incredibly bored with it this entire season. Gintama is definitely not at its strength as an average battle manga. I guess its just my opinion, but I think Gintama has gone sour and I'm finally realizing it. |
| I actually felt bad for Utsuro after that flashback and I couldn't care less for him up until now. Beginning was hilarious. Especially the arms.  |
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 next season announcement maybe? |
| Great Episode as always! Feels good to see Kamui standing back again and moving forward as a captain and as a pirate. Seems like Yato family is finally resolved, Umi got some cool looking canon arms making him more OP, and Kagura asking for a paid leave HAHA! its yorozuya what could she expect? Ahh Oboro, Sorachi has this ability of making us resent a character for long periods of time to making us feel bad for him with just a simple backstory. I really like how gintama villains are not just an evil one dimensional character, but rather have their own goal and reason, only to have chosen the wrong path. |
QueenSapphireMar 19, 2017 9:26 PM
| Umibzou's new arms are pricelss, and Gintoki is gonna pay for it lmao. |
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| Umibozu is alive and shoyo first student story was kinda nice...kinda help me understand the guy more |
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| I hope it's not yet the final episode next week. |
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| I hope it's not yet the final episode next week. |
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ezaya said: I hope it's not yet the final episode next week. It will be the final Episode of this Arc, but the next Arc will start a week later. |
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megaload said: This arc is the most shounen-y, which is sort of unfortunate, but I'm still enjoying it (despite the animation).Yep, when in full battle shounen mode Gintama is total snorefest. In the previous seasons the drama was more interesting and believable, here we are in tearjerker territory. |
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| Simply It was the best ep in this seson the fight and the flash-back |
| I knew that none of them would really die. Gintama would never do that. They only kill off the characters that you'd only miss for a while but would eventually forget like Sasaki Isaburo. Still, I appreciate it because I would be really sad if they killed of any of my favorites. Kamui couldn't kill his own family, he'd hurt them and he's still a little bitch of a crybaby but he could never truly kill them. Umibouzu's arms! XD LOL at Kagura asking for a paid leave. So Oboro was the official first student, now he's dying, he's going to reveal Utsuro's secret with his last breath. |
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Bibimbapski said: I knew that none of them would really die. Gintama would never do that. They only kill off the characters that you'd only miss for a while but would eventually forget like Sasaki Isaburo. Still, I appreciate it because I would be really sad if they killed of any of my favorites. Not true. They killed Sho-chan :( |
| Great episode, also the flashback to Oboro lifetime in the days he knew the "sensei"!!!! The first part of the episode, was full of...smiles...funny!!!! |
| Another great episode |
Hypokeimenon said: Bibimbapski said: I knew that none of them would really die. Gintama would never do that. They only kill off the characters that you'd only miss for a while but would eventually forget like Sasaki Isaburo. Still, I appreciate it because I would be really sad if they killed of any of my favorites. Not true. They killed Sho-chan :( True. :( Breaks my heart every time i remember it. I was in denial. |
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| Didn't expect Oboro to be his first student. Sucks that his final fight was so lackluster but I suppose he was weak and dying at this point. |
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| Another very impressive episode, with a great backstory and development! Really looking forward to see what the last episode will have to offer from this seemingly last season!? |
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| Shinsuke vs Oboro,yet a another fantastic confrontation +flashback. This arc rocks. So eager to learn the truth behind Shoyo/Utsuro. |
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| I still don't fully understand the whole Shoyo / Utsuro phenomenon. If Utsuro's immortal and he's a fucking heartless killer then why the sudden 180 and start a school to teach kids? |
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Warrior3 said: Yeah. Oboro's backstory isn't bad but felt like an afterthought, and his death seems quite pointless, more like getting rid of a character at this point. Kinda boring episode tbh. |
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| Yeee oboro is dead. Finally. |
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