Would this show be better if they just focus on the war?

Nov 7, 2016 9:38 PM

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The characters are hollow and their dialogue bland. We had whole episodes attempting to focus on character interactions but they needed to use fanservice to keep us entertained between mundane dialogue a lot of those times. At best, the interactions involve the writers compiling cliches to use one after another.

They really aren't the writer's strengths. I think the best points were the action based episodes, maybe the show should just focus on that.

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Nov 8, 2016 4:51 AM

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honestly for me, i watch this more for an alt history historical drama and don't care much for the war scenes. I will admit tho that Fine' does get boring with the political speeches but that is a part of who she is...

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Nov 20, 2016 5:11 AM

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My exact thoughts after watching the first episode. The end basically ruined it for me. I liked the depiction of the war, the mostly realistic, slightly changed historical depiction. I also liked the tone and the characters but as soon as the witch appeared with all that magical girl fantasy going, it basically ruined it for me.

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Nov 20, 2016 7:34 AM

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Yeah with 2 cour it would have been better. After episode 1 week ago when I checked and saw it was 1-cour on MAL ... I knew with this pacing and that many chars and different stuff ... that there isn't anymore deep plot to be expected from the next and last few episodes.

The war episodes at the beginning were the best. At least the infiltration episode this week as a bit interesting because of the other chars that got screentime.

Nov 20, 2016 9:19 AM

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This show is just one big disappointment.

Nov 20, 2016 10:58 AM

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VonSchiller said:
My exact thoughts after watching the first episode. The end basically ruined it for me. I liked the depiction of the war, the mostly realistic, slightly changed historical depiction. I also liked the tone and the characters but as soon as the witch appeared with all that magical girl fantasy going, it basically ruined it for me.

Exactly. It wouldn't be so bad if Izetta and Fine were decent, interesting character and/or if Eylstadt's government were more realistic. What we have now reminds me of some kids series about happy adventures of princess, witch & their friends, only with more boobs. Big disappointment indeed, especially since military scenes are still very nice.

Nov 20, 2016 11:03 AM

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so, is this show shit?
i expected this to be shit after i saw some chick riding magic gun in the supposed-to-be-realistic world war 2 setting and dropped it right away

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Nov 20, 2016 11:09 AM

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umm, what's so interesting about people firing their guns and immediately hide soon after?

what is this, dirty tricks and cheap shots, the anime?

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Nov 20, 2016 11:29 AM

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The show seems to be taking on much more than it can handle in 1 cour: there's a mystery that's already been resolved; a terrible, weak romance that lasted one episode; military strategy that's only been used (lightly) for a few episodes; very few battle scenes e.t.c.

I think the show would be better if it just focussed on the war and the alternate history. The action scenes have been engaging so far so it'd be better they stick to that.

Nov 20, 2016 5:33 PM

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gnerkus said:
The show seems to be taking on much more than it can handle in 1 cour: there's a mystery that's already been resolved; a terrible, weak romance that lasted one episode; military strategy that's only been used (lightly) for a few episodes; very few battle scenes e.t.c.

I think the show would be better if it just focussed on the war and the alternate history. The action scenes have been engaging so far so it'd be better they stick to that.

too late tbh

3 episodes to go, it can't possibly recover

Nov 21, 2016 12:42 AM

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Wholeheartedly agree with the OP. It honestly hurts to watch

Nov 21, 2016 9:23 AM

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As much as I would like a war focused anime, this is totally different.
How would the focus on a war be better when germania would have conquered europe in 2 epsiodes without the witch?

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Nov 23, 2016 1:03 AM

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After seeing the latest episode, I've come to the conclusion that they shouldn't include details on the war at all. The writer quite evidently invested zero time researching military strategy and reading historical accounts of actual espionage, if it became the main focus of the anime it would be even worse than it is now.

Izetta's strengths lie in the cute girls and fanservice, it would have been better served as a slice-of-life drama about a young witch trying to find a place in a modernizing world that still fears witches despite firearms/bombs/tanks/planes making them completely irrelevant, a young princess trying to find a place in a modernizing society where social movements have made nobility less relevant, and the growth of their friendship as they discover the similarities in each other as they overcome challenges.

But if we're to stay true to the premise of the show, I'd say they still shouldn't focus on the war. Instead it should be a psychological drama where Berkmann and Fine are on the same side: Berkmann as a military officer that pushes Izetta to even bloodier shows of power to save their country, Fine fighting for a diplomatic resolution and preserving Izetta's humanity, and Izetta struggling between wanting to be accepted by everyone, but having to become the monster they fear she is in order to win that acceptance. There would still be room for fanservice and slice-of-life moments (particularly where Fine tries to help Izetta destress or when Berkmann tries to manipulate Izetta by letting her enjoy the peace and happiness she's fighting for) in such a setting as well.

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Nov 23, 2016 6:16 AM

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had the show mostly focused on the war and how cool finé is and maybe develop her relationship with izetta (cuz we all know the heavy implications about them being a couple especially after ep8) but no the show decides that it will turn into a moe about cute girls doing cute things like eating pie... other than that is that all the characters are dumb except for the germanian spy, berckman, the emperor,(finé before she loses all the good things about her character aka only ep1)and seighard who seem like the only people that understand that they're in war, other than that even the kid spy (who i didn't even care enough for to remember his name) goes into the realization that oh these are the people who we are fighting (and does the oops walked on a naked girl showering and ran away scene) but still doesn't do shit about what he discovers like betray his spy maybe??? why'd you put that if you're not gonna use it? or am i supposed to feel bad for him somehow?
all I'm saying is that i had very high hopes for this show because it was good in the beginning but it loses all the good things about it gradually and it proves that every new episode, i hope it picks up though there is no fixing this but i hope at least the finale would be good.

Nov 24, 2016 10:20 AM

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I think show is fine, nothing special and not terrible but it's obvious most of who watch they do it for yuribait and their shippingshit delusions.

GangsterCat said:
so, is this show shit?
i expected this to be shit after i saw some chick riding magic gun in the supposed-to-be-realistic world war 2 setting and dropped it right away

What a load of shit.
>show titled The Last WITCH
>fictional country and changed names of existing ones
Either you are trolling or stupid.

Nov 24, 2016 10:24 AM

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bastek66 said:
I think show is fine, nothing special and not terrible but it's obvious most of who watch they do it for yuribait and their shippingshit delusions.

GangsterCat said:
so, is this show shit?
i expected this to be shit after i saw some chick riding magic gun in the supposed-to-be-realistic world war 2 setting and dropped it right away

What a load of shit.
>show titled The Last WITCH
>fictional country and changed names of existing ones
Either you are trolling or stupid.

i'm smart enough to avoid this anime

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Nov 24, 2016 10:28 AM

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GangsterCat said:

bastek66 said:
I think show is fine, nothing special and not terrible but it's obvious most of who watch they do it for yuribait and their shippingshit delusions.

What a load of shit.
>show titled The Last WITCH
>fictional country and changed names of existing ones
Either you are trolling or stupid.

i'm smart enough to avoid this anime

Then why are you here?

Nov 29, 2016 1:29 AM

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Wow the liking for this show has really deteriorated by this point lol. I'm glad I've criticized it enough when it was fun and people actually defended it. It's funny how long it took everyone to realize though. You guys spent 6+ episodes watching empty shells do what the plot commands them and tell yourself this is a good anime?

Dec 6, 2016 3:35 PM

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I remember everyone talking about how this was the best anime of the season when it first aired. Now everyone hates it. What the hell happened?

Dec 6, 2016 3:59 PM

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Mormegil said:
I remember everyone talking about how this was the best anime of the season when it first aired. Now everyone hates it. What the hell happened?

The plot is almost completely driven by contrived situations. The characters are one-dimensional and never developed.

The action scenes are still pretty decent though. And the soundtrack is good too. Pretty much the show's only saving grace.

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Dec 6, 2016 4:25 PM

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Broken Physics

Plot conveniences and based knowledge for the sake of plot

Boring foil and boring foil introduction

This was bound to be bad from the get go.

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Dec 10, 2016 2:53 AM

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My biggest gripe here is the complete incompetence at the strategic level, especially that of the Germans. Because, let's be honest here, a single girl flying on an AT gun and flipping tanks is NOT a real threat in the grand scheme of things. Granted, she will play merry hell with morale, but this is modern war. Attacks, particularly those carried out in blitzkrieg fashion, are not carried out in a single front. Elystadt should have been overrun from the get go, on all fronts attacked at once.

And, please, those silly balloons and AA guns in the capital city wouldn't have deterred the Luftwaffe a single bit. In fact the Germans could've landed their paratroopers on the south side of the country, and rushed the capital on foot with Italian artillery and tank support.

I bet Fegelein was in charge of the invasion. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!

Dec 12, 2016 6:30 PM

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You know they don't even do the war aspect that well so maybe the show would be better if it was a lighthearted ecchi like Keijo

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Dec 17, 2016 2:55 PM

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poppyface said:
You know they don't even do the war aspect that well so maybe the show would be better if it was a lighthearted ecchi like Keijo

Keijo is hot blooded not light-hearted.

Oct 13, 2017 3:13 PM

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Basically, this show did a good job for the first 3 eps, then occurences that are too convenient for the plot happemed...then it crashed.

So much lost potemtial that im about to cry...

Jan 7, 2023 6:11 AM

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you guys have no taste😹 but me on the other hand I am munching (ice spice) this show tf up😋 literally so good.

how can't you like this show anyway y'all are cray

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