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Jun 13, 2016 7:27 AM
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Oh damn that was sad. Even after that suffering, Hotaru still valued the friendship she shared with Chibiusa. Their friendship didn't last too long because of the circumstances but it was still beautiful. What a cruel world..

Those tears ;_; that confession ;_;
Super Chibiusa's battle design looks pretty imo.
Stark700Jun 13, 2016 8:12 AM
Jun 13, 2016 9:13 AM
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I think animators had way too much fun with Mistress 9's faces this week XD
Jun 13, 2016 9:29 AM
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Didnt think it would be better than former episode, but it was the case! Truly emotional & sad!
Jun 13, 2016 9:34 AM
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The animation was a let down in this episode. But all the scenes of Mistress 9 as a Daimon [or whatever she is now lol] and Hotaru's disappearence were excellent, guess they kept the budget for those scenes. Now about the plot, I am actually shocked. I can't believe how dark and badass Sailor Moon was supposed to get. I love most of the 90's anime, especially S and Stars, but this is a whole new level. I have been enjoying Crystal very much personally, and I am glad to see were this is going, especially when I think how lame SuperS was in the 90's. The best things in this episode were definitely, Hotaru, Hotaru and oh... HOTARU! That scene with Chibiusa got me so much <3 Once again, I loved her in the 90's but now she just has to be one of my favourite characters, look at all the stuff she is doing. Ofc all that dark Mistress 9 moments were aaaawesomeee and I loved what's going on with Mamoru, I am curious to see what kind of a new power he felt within him. Such a shame only 2 episodes left :( Good things don't last.
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Jun 13, 2016 9:46 AM
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What an episode Hotaru really didn't want mistress 9 to take anymore souls her fate truly was a sad one. Chibi usa is back in the fight along with the inner sailor scouts. today's transformation scene was 28 seconds rather short but then we got a brand new transformation sequence which was 45 seconds. Sailor Saturn next episode yes!

anyone want to take a guess at how many different kinds of faces mistress 9 made in this episode the answer will surprise you.
Jun 13, 2016 9:48 AM
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ChrisAlex said:
The animation was a let down in this episode. But all the scenes of Mistress 9 as a Daimon [or whatever she is now lol] and Hotaru's disappearence were excellent, guess they kept the budget for those scenes. Now about the plot, I am actually shocked. I can't believe how dark and badass Sailor Moon was supposed to get. I love most of the 90's anime, especially S and Stars, but this is a whole new level. I have been enjoying Crystal very much personally, and I am glad to see were this is going, especially when I think how lame SuperS was in the 90's. The best things in this episode were definitely, Hotaru, Hotaru and oh... HOTARU! That scene with Chibiusa got me so much <\3 Once again, I loved her in the 90's but now she just has to be one of my favourite characters, look at all the stuff she is doing. Ofc all that dark Mistress 9 moments were aaaawesomeee and I loved what's going on with Mamoru, I am curious to see what kind of a new power he felt within him. Such a shame only 3 episodes left :( Good things don't last.

In the manga, the Stars arc is the darkest of all.^^
Jun 13, 2016 9:57 AM
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Johnny_B said:
ChrisAlex said:
The animation was a let down in this episode. But all the scenes of Mistress 9 as a Daimon [or whatever she is now lol] and Hotaru's disappearence were excellent, guess they kept the budget for those scenes. Now about the plot, I am actually shocked. I can't believe how dark and badass Sailor Moon was supposed to get. I love most of the 90's anime, especially S and Stars, but this is a whole new level. I have been enjoying Crystal very much personally, and I am glad to see were this is going, especially when I think how lame SuperS was in the 90's. The best things in this episode were definitely, Hotaru, Hotaru and oh... HOTARU! That scene with Chibiusa got me so much <3 Once again, I loved her in the 90's but now she just has to be one of my favourite characters, look at all the stuff she is doing. Ofc all that dark Mistress 9 moments were aaaawesomeee and I loved what's going on with Mamoru, I am curious to see what kind of a new power he felt within him. Such a shame only 3 episodes left :( Good things don't last.

In the manga, the Stars arc is the darkest of all.^^


I can't wat for Stars to be aired, and actually SuperS too, because in the 90's it was a disappointment, especially after knowing how much better and richer the Dream arc was. The Outers were there, Mamoru was acting like a teenager and real stuff was happening. But I guess I am happy that I don't really remember anything else from the manga than that and Sailor Cosmos. I can still be quite hyped :D
sailorflopJun 13, 2016 10:03 AM
Jun 13, 2016 10:19 AM
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I almost cry in this episode when Hotaru and Chibi Usa say goodbye each other and with the transformation of Super Sailor Chibi Moon.

Finally next week will come Sailor Saturn!
Jun 13, 2016 11:13 AM
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HOLY MOON, this episode actually made me feel the feels! I can't believe how much superior S3 got than S1&2! I wish the current team remade them! And, oooh, holy moon, I can't imagine HOW DOPE NEXT SEASONS WILL BEEAAAAAAARGH! >.< :D :D :D
Jun 13, 2016 12:56 PM

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The one thing I really liked in this episode was the sense of poetry. Hotaru's death led to a rebirth of sorts for Chibiusa.

Combo attacks are the main pull for next episode.
Jun 13, 2016 2:19 PM
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Mistress 9 oh wow, those expressions were hilarious yet creepy. She sort of looked like Ryuk from Death Note.

The sad part about this episode was Hotaru. When all hope is lost, she sacrifices herself. She really had a sad fate and life due to her condition. However, she brought a new hope, in the form of Super Sailor Chibi Moon. Gotta say them Super Sailor outfits look real good, especially Sailor Moons.

Inner senshi got to see some action as well. I really hope they get a power up, especially Jupiter. Her planet is supposed to be part of the outer planets, yet her power isn't really all that strong.

Jun 13, 2016 2:41 PM

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Bit late comment, but barely managed to watch the episode before going to work xP

Brilliant episode. That moment, when Hotaru desperately protected Chibiusas and the Inners Souls. A really WTF moment when Mistress 9 has gone bananas XD Those rolling eyes and all. And I though Dr. Tomoe was crazy enough. And when I though it can't be crazier Mistress 9 changes into her Daimon form omg. Mind blown to bits.

And yes, quality dropped in some few moments, but I don't care. I'm rewatching the SM 90's version (SuperS right now) and noticing so many animation errors now compared to the times, when I watched SM for the first time ehhhh... ;P

Music and VA was top-notch. Those Chibiusa and Hotaru sad moments wow... I think I've got something in my eye while watching it ;...;"


AntonKutovoi said:
I think animators had way too much fun with Mistress 9's faces this week XD


Seems like the animators had build up the pressure from not using face expressions in S1 and S2. Poor Mistress 9 got literally all of it in the face haha.

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anyone want to take a guess at how many different kinds of faces mistress 9 made in this episode the answer will surprise you.


Omg don't tell me you counted them all XDDDDD I'm guessing 12? It will probably be more haha XD


Speaking of Dream and Stars Arc. We are getting closer and closer to the finale and no news on the horizon :( Does anyone found out something? I don't want to wait an infinity again (no pun intended) for the next seasons to air :< ...but if the quality improves even more, then I'll patently wait a bit of course >___>
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Jun 13, 2016 3:00 PM

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Raff said:


AntonKutovoi said:
I think animators had way too much fun with Mistress 9's faces this week XD


Seems like the animators had build up the pressure from not using face expressions in S1 and S2. Poor Mistress 9 got literally all of it in the face haha.

FallenEntity said:

anyone want to take a guess at how many different kinds of faces mistress 9 made in this episode the answer will surprise you.


Omg don't tell me you counted them all XDDDDD I'm guessing 12? It will probably be more haha XD


Yes I did but I will not give the answer until tonight.

edit: now this might be unfair but mistress 9 had way more facial expressions due to the fact that there are 3 of them again unfair so let me explain. You have Hotaru, Mistress 9 and monster Mistress 9 there all the same person so obviously you will get a lot of facial expressions I present to you the results.
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Jun 13, 2016 3:58 PM

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Raff said:

Speaking of Dream and Stars Arc. We are getting closer and closer to the finale and no news on the horizon :( Does anyone found out something? I don't want to wait an infinity again (no pun intended) for the next seasons to air :< ...but if the quality improves even more, then I'll patently wait a bit of course >___>

I think we have to wait at least half year, just like we had to wait after Black Moon, now...DVD/BD sales are very important, i hope S3 will sell well, so Toei can see it is worth to keep it in same quality as S3, and don't go back to 2 weeks per epsiode and ONA format
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kagura-pb said:
Raff said:
Speaking of Dream and Stars Arc. We are getting closer and closer to the finale and no news on the horizon :( Does anyone found out something? I don't want to wait an infinity again (no pun intended) for the next seasons to air :< ...but if the quality improves even more, then I'll patently wait a bit of course >___>


There's already been a Chibi Usa/Pegasus figure announced that's labeled as 'Sailor Moon Crystal', so we most definitely will be getting the Dream Arc, but when it'll be is still a mystery.


I've seen it on the SMN site too. To tell the truth I haven't notice the Crystal text on the label and reading the post on SMN makes me really wonder if it's simply written wrong or not. The art style is a mix of old and crystal style too. Next season will hopefully come sooner or later. It would be stupid to stop the adaptation in the middle of the story. I hope we get some official info at least.


kamil88 said:
Raff said:

Speaking of Dream and Stars Arc. We are getting closer and closer to the finale and no news on the horizon :( Does anyone found out something? I don't want to wait an infinity again (no pun intended) for the next seasons to air :< ...but if the quality improves even more, then I'll patently wait a bit of course >___>

I think we have to wait at lest half year, just like we had to wait after Black Moon, now...DVD/BD sales are very important, i hope S3 will sell well, so Toei can see it is worth to keep it in same quality as S3, and don't go back to 2 weeks per epsiode and ONA format


I really hope not :/ but sadly it could happen like that... I had hopes we get the same treatment like with S1 transiting into S2 directly. After that S5 (Stars) would come after another break. On the other hand the official episode amount in S3 hasn't been stated yet, although it still can be simply capped at episode 13 :P Well... seems like we need to wait for Toei revealing some info.
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Nice display of friendship between Saturn and Chibi-usa.
Jun 13, 2016 4:51 PM
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I didn't remember this that happen on manga too.
Recently I re-watch the 90 series and my favorite was the Pegasus's arc...

This episode tHe best scene of all was Chibiusa and Hotaru part. I remeber that in the manga I already liked those scene.

yEAHT, I think that Toei will make the other arcs Super S and Stars!

In the manga star was the darkest one? Anybody would like to re-fresh my memories? What happing on this arc in the manga to become the darkest one?
Jun 13, 2016 7:49 PM

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I wonder if Crystal will get a Season 4 and 5 to do the SuperS and Stars because I'd really like to see that adapted according to the original manga. Plus, a chance to see Nehelenia and Galaxia with the newer art styles along with Eternal Sailor Moon? OH YEAH!
Don't believe the hype.
Jun 13, 2016 11:09 PM
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I didn't remember this that happen on manga too.
Recently I re-watch the 90 series and my favorite was the Pegasus's arc...

This episode tHe best scene of all was Chibiusa and Hotaru part. I remeber that in the manga I already liked those scene.

yEAHT, I think that Toei will make the other arcs Super S and Stars!

In the manga star was the darkest one? Anybody would like to re-fresh my memories? What happing on this arc in the manga to become the darkest one?
i suprised that saturn show up next week. it seems toei changed this because in the manga her first appearance was in superS
Jun 13, 2016 11:31 PM
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No, she did appear in Death Busters arc too.
Jun 14, 2016 5:39 AM
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Mamoru's fabulous transformation was epic !! About time the poor guy got some spotlight xD Though at least he gets some during the ED song which I absolutely love don't get why so much hate towards the song <.<



Mamoru's sexiness idk if my hormones can take it ♥
Jun 14, 2016 3:34 PM

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Not my favourite ep so far, but it wasn't that bad ether. It's just manga versions of final battles were pretty dull to begin with, so they can't really improve that much in anime remake, sadly. They'd have to rewrite the entire thing. Seriously, wtf was with that monster.
And I can't believe that Pink Sugar Heart Attack killed it with one blow, when 4 other, stronger and older Sailor Senshi couldn't harm it even a little bit xD

Another thing - Chibusa and Hotaru shared in this series like 3-4 scenes together? I can hardly call that destined friendship... Older S series with 30+ episodes made it a looot more believable. Oh welp.
Jun 14, 2016 10:54 PM
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They ran out of time and budget again for the animation. Meh.
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Jun 15, 2016 12:12 PM

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Hotaru is too good of a person, and I'm so damn happy to see some Hotaru x Chibiusa... Such a sad parting. Can't wait for her to get reborn!
Jun 16, 2016 8:08 PM

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Best animated death for Hotaru. Chibi-Usa flying was so weird though. And I found some faces of Pluto strange.
I forgot that Mamoru got a power-up from his daughter and Hotaru. I thought his "level-up" would come later (from the "Priester"/guardian)

5/5

Having a doubt, I just checked if Hotaru's original voice actress was playing her. I didn't realize until now. ^^"

The more I watch the Crystal version of the Death Buster story, the more I understand how I came to like Pre(tty)Cure.



@Kitsu-nee It was a Pink Sugar Heart Attack powered-up by Hotaru's apocalyptical energy potential as Sailor Saturn, Mamoru's healing/energy transmission, and all the usual will boost (friend sacrifice, ...)
The friendship thing: the fact it was "pre-destined" gets rid of the need for story time to build up a relationship (also, Hotaru obviously has little to noone near her, so she's probably more "receptive" to marks of kindness). What you had in the old variant was not a destined but regular friendship.
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Yes Tuxedo Mask, they really needed you to tell them to stop her.
Jun 18, 2016 3:23 PM

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Cringy in so many ways
Jun 18, 2016 11:59 PM

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And there goes Hotaru....only to return next week.
Jun 22, 2016 1:19 AM

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finally henshin again Super Sailor Moon and the new henshin!: Super Sailor Chibi Moon! + combines powers! damn!
Can't wait for the re-emergence of the Superior Sailor Saturn next ep!
the only redeeming factor for this shop to be entertaining is the OST! usually makes me tear-up!
5/5!


Jul 2, 2016 5:02 PM

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They did a nice job with Hotaru's "tragedy" but the rest of the content is just so silly... those weird face close-ups...

It looked like Mamoru uses his curtains as a cape... lol what?
Nov 2, 2016 1:04 PM

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Dang Mistress 9 was creeeeeeeepy af

Noooo Hotaru-chan D':

Here comes Sailor Saturn! Guess it's gonna be the end of the world then :o
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Dec 9, 2016 5:12 PM

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They kinda spoiled the surprise for this episode by adding Chibiusa's powered up form in the opening... still a good episode nevertheless.
Feb 29, 2020 8:42 AM

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Hotaru! 😭

She almost gave up... But didn't. Now she's gone.

Mistress 9 was a real glutton for souls lol.

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