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May 14, 2016 10:50 PM

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When Nico said something about Maki feeling 7 times the pain I felt a little sad. I wonder how this will all end. Having a hard time picturing how the series will wrap itself up. Hopefully it's not just, "Alright thanks for participating in the experiment, you're free now".
May 14, 2016 10:53 PM

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We are learning more and more about Maki!
I love how they are now all connecting on an emotional level! This show just keeps on getting better and better imo
Can't wait to see what's next ~♥
May 14, 2016 11:13 PM

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I still done get how seven deadly sins fit but on a side note I think Ruru was a suicide frank so It obviously not Maki's fault that she died
May 14, 2016 11:41 PM
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I kind of hope the plot will now move, seriously. I am still liking it and it's a good episode but.. you know...


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May 14, 2016 11:48 PM

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Great episode, especially liked the last scene and how Noriko twitches.
May 15, 2016 1:29 AM

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mozgow said:
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Definitely the best episode.
It was quite sad, well done Trigger.
The visuals were impressing as always

9/10
Yup, the best episode so far.

Hibikase said:
Also, what is Sonozaki injecting her arm?!??! O_O Could it be morphine?

I also noticed this and I'm really curious to see why is she doing this. If this is morphine then is she terminally ill?


Maybe its a drug to suppress the Kiznaver treatment? Considering it's hinted she was a part of the program?

And in true Trigger fashion, the show continues to improve as it goes on!

Poor Maki though...
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May 15, 2016 3:55 AM

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Aw yiss, this is starting to get good with all the feelings being connected and all that. There was some tension, too.

This keeps on getting better!
May 15, 2016 4:44 AM

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mozgow said:
Xenocrisi said:
Definitely the best episode.
It was quite sad, well done Trigger.
The visuals were impressing as always

9/10
Yup, the best episode so far.

Hibikase said:
Also, what is Sonozaki injecting her arm?!??! O_O Could it be morphine?

I also noticed this and I'm really curious to see why is she doing this. If this is morphine then is she terminally ill?


I got a feeling she's trying to tell/remind katsuhira something. They semm to be related in past, and somehow she have to continue this experiment because its the only way to make katsuhira recall or remember the past.

uhm she might be immortal.......or a mutant in some way idk though
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May 15, 2016 4:46 AM

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damn i feel bad for her she had a fucked up past
May 15, 2016 4:48 AM

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Excellent episode, and one of the best so far emotionally but awwww, poor Maki is having such a hard time. I assume more of their story is hidden in that manga somewhere.
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May 15, 2016 6:48 AM
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most interesting episode so far. Maki's past. Whatever Sonozaki's injecting herself. Forgetful Priss. deep stuff, getting there. i hope the series becomes more consistent from this point on.
May 15, 2016 7:36 AM

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I enjoyed the backstory with her friend in the beginning of the episode, when she was going to back flop off the ledge.
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May 15, 2016 7:49 AM
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Maki's past time. So what, did her friend commit suicide? Guess we'll see next week. Surprisingly sick burn Katsuhira gave Noriko at the end there, I liked that.
Well maybe she fells quilty for not saving her friend, I predict that Maki meybe rejected her, a thus the suicide happens
May 15, 2016 7:53 AM
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I was about to tear up when Nico said the thing about the pain being seven times stronger, and then the loudest music start to play in the next room killing the mood.

Beautiful episode, it's very emotional and the stuff that I was wishing to happen is finally going on, all about the emotions and stuff, I think from now on I'll start to really like this series.
May 15, 2016 7:55 AM

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Alright, Maki backstory
Dafaq Ruru, calm yo titz.
Edgy.
2.8/5
May 15, 2016 8:07 AM

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Hibikase said:
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The memory showing the megane girl with that girl who died.

The feeling shared is explained, and the association left the group behind. The girl pretends to be Fushigi-kei is like megane girl's friend? The government wants to stop the experiment because of the media, but she continues to progress it, and next target is the megane girl?

Oh, so the offer she keeps denying was movie adaptation of her work with documentary movie. Womanizer guy not only saved her, he is curious about her pain and figured out she was a part of the two-person mangaka of the manga. The mission accomplished quick enough because the media touched her pain. Wow, a strong word from KajiKaji's character to the mysterious girl, who plays piano, too.

I am not sure if I missed something but since when did the Kiznaivers begin sharing emotional pain? From episode 1-4, they have only shared physical pain and all of sudden in episode 5, emotional pain gets randomly introduced? Why didn't the Kiznaivers feel any emotional pain prior to Takishiro's confrontation with the Katsuhira's bullies in episode 5? I mean Takishiro cried over Katsuhira towards the end of episode 2 when they were on the crane and Maki saw (maybe hallucinated) Ruru's corpse in episode 2; both of these events obviously caused intense emotional pain to both characters but the Kiznaivers that were supposed to also feel the pain didn't react to it at all? Did Sonozaki change up the pain-sharing system to something where everyone is not only bound by physical but also emotional pain in episode 5 that I didn't catch on? I am really confused right now as this seems like a really big plothole.


Because they're just making it up as they go. I had to stop watching this show because the logic behind it is just evil and it's hard to feel anything for characters like this. Not to mention the actual science behind it is lacking and full of holes you could drive a death star through and that's saying something. I don't mind things not making complete sense, we're talking anime logic here after all but I expect them to try and pretend it makes sense lol.

I've never been a fan of the whole the ends justify the means argument and none of the character are acting even remotely rational. Most of us wouldn't stand for this type of experiment much less let people torture us but for some reason they all find it hilarious and we the audience are expected to find it funny too. I don't find it funny at all and thus I cannot relate to a single character because of this. Other than the animation which is nice the characters are really the only thing this show has going for it and to me they just feel flat because of their unrealistic attitudes.

It's really a shame because I love the whole concept of a group of people who share each other's pain but the execution is sorely lacking. I will wait until it's finished and read some reviews to see if things change or get better. It's not a horrible show and I've seen way worse, still imagine if they made a show about kids who share the same power but in order to use that power they would have to beat and abuse each other and the show tries to turn that concept into one big joke as the kids all abuse each other, mentally and physically. It's pretty sickening which is how I feel about Kiznaiver.
May 15, 2016 8:32 AM

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My heart was actually feel weird throughout the show. I don't know why.
May 15, 2016 8:47 AM

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Maki has a sad past :/. I wonder what happened to her friend
May 15, 2016 9:32 AM

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Can someone just talk about the scene between Katsuhira and Sonozaki in the end because that shit hurt like hell and I'm not Sonozaki. "I'm disappointed in you, Nori-chan." Damn, that hurts and it's proven by how Sonozaki flinched after Katsuhira said that. I support this ship and I hope there will be character development for Sonozaki that would make her be more aware of her actions to the Kiznaivers.

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May 15, 2016 9:47 AM

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Blumenkranzzz said:
Can someone just talk about the scene between Katsuhira and Sonozaki in the end because that shit hurt like hell and I'm not Sonozaki. "I'm disappointed in you, Nori-chan." Damn, that hurts and it's proven by how Sonozaki flinched after Katsuhira said that. I support this ship and I hope there will be character development for Sonozaki that would make her be more aware of her actions to the Kiznaivers.

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I have a feeling that she bears the heaviest emotional pain. If she were to be bound to the others, they could feel her pain as well. And I don't think that I have seen her smiling so far.

Overall a good episode, especially the emotional part feels real and isn't interrupted by random comedy.
Re:Zero nice troll ending.
May 15, 2016 9:56 AM

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Good episode, last scene was very good. That was 'I am now despising you' or something like that, stronger than disappointed I think

What was the note she played? Think it has a meaning
May 15, 2016 10:07 AM
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Characters are what really makes this series so special. The feels were there ;_;

4/5
May 15, 2016 10:14 AM

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Katsuhira was disappointed in Konosaki so much that she shuddered at his words. Powerful words indeed...

I'm also curious about why Konosaki was injecting some serum-like substance into her arm. Maybe she's part of the project like the others in one way or it could be something more serious than that. I'm sure it'll be brought up again soon.

Poor Maki. Seeing her friend, Ruru, almost killing herself shocked her, but I guess later down the line, Ruru must've killed herself, since Maki is hurting a lot emotionally, probably from having a lot of regrets in being unable to save her friend. It might explain why she's unwilling to become friends with the rest of the group since she can't move on from the past.

Overall, this episode was definitely powerful and effective. Good job Trigger. =)
May 15, 2016 10:52 AM

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Sometimes791 said:
I have a feeling that she bears the heaviest emotional pain. If she were to be bound to the others, they could feel her pain as well. And I don't think that I have seen her smiling so far.
We don't quite know what or how it happened but I can imagine if she had something to do with or actually did kill her friend that would be a large cross to bear with the guilt.
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May 15, 2016 11:43 AM

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Wings said:
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I have a feeling that she bears the heaviest emotional pain. If she were to be bound to the others, they could feel her pain as well. And I don't think that I have seen her smiling so far.
We don't quite know what or how it happened but I can imagine if she had something to do with or actually did kill her friend that would be a large cross to bear with the guilt.

I'm speaking of Sonozaki. As for Maki, I think that she didn't kill her, but said something, that crossed the line, and thus her friend suicided. Another possibility is that there was an accident, for which Maki feels responsible.
Re:Zero nice troll ending.
May 15, 2016 12:44 PM

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Poor Maki, that part with the TV crew was uncomfortable to watch. Nico's commentary is also sad in a way, so I guess Maki fells responsible for her friend's death. I don't really think she really killed the girl.

Wow Kenma Katsuhira! I was not expecting him to say something like that.

I think Sonozaki is related to the Kizuna program more than just a researcher. She looks like the girl from Katsuhira's memories, so maybe she is also a Kiznaiver. Or was one. Maybe she can feel their pains too, so she take that medicine...Lots of mysteries :S

May 15, 2016 1:07 PM
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it was one of the best episodes, like the last one we got more insight on Maki's past
Nico being aways 10/10 best girl with a pinch of seriousness on the last minute
if it continues that way I'll raise my score from 8 to 10
awesome bgm with those inverted notes, made the scene look and feel really cold, just like Maki's personality
May 15, 2016 1:08 PM

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Okay, nobody has mentioned it, but nobody got really hype about the red water during the flashback?

This show is about instrumentality, something used as an instrument or a means to an end. More specifically, in the way that NERV from Neon Genesis Evangelion wanted to convert all human beings into a single homogeneous consciousness, in the physical form of LCL (the red water).

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May 15, 2016 1:15 PM

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Blumenkranzzz said:
Can someone just talk about the scene between Katsuhira and Sonozaki in the end because that shit hurt like hell and I'm not Sonozaki. "I'm disappointed in you, Nori-chan."...



Sonozaki basically half-arsed the challenge this episode by cheaply taking advantage of Honoka's trauma. She disguised the mission as "saving Maki", which the Kiznaivers did do technically, but they obviously didn't "save" her at all.

Sonozaki's true objective was to buy time and produce some quick "results" that would placate the investors of the project. So while Katsuhira was harsh, she kinda deserved it. Then again, Sonozaki most certainly has a sob story of her own which will eventually come to light.
May 15, 2016 1:26 PM

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Uhhhh the pain went deeper than before. than must be freakin painfull for all of them but like Nico said, if it's not because of Kiznaiver, the pain would be 7 times more painfull than that for Maki. look who's talking right there...i never thought of that or more like i already forgot about it. great episode overall. i like it, especially where this is going. the problems isn't solved yet so i can't wait for the next episode :D
May 16, 2016 12:01 AM

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Sonozaki basically half-arsed the challenge this episode by cheaply taking advantage of Honoka's trauma. She disguised the mission as "saving Maki", which the Kiznaivers did do technically, but they obviously didn't "save" her at all.

Sonozaki's true objective was to buy time and produce some quick "results" that would placate the investors of the project. So while Katsuhira was harsh, she kinda deserved it.


Yeah, I believe she deserved that too but hearing it from Katsuhira, a boy who tried so hard to connect with her, that really must have hurt a lot.
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May 16, 2016 12:36 AM
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does anyone know the song sonozaki was playing on the piano at the ending
May 16, 2016 2:44 AM

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dead on "nori-chan" catchphrase
full fill mystery at this series like noriko injecting herself with...drugs?
May 16, 2016 2:11 PM

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The lines about manjuu... LOL.

Tenga/Nico is best guy/girl. Hisomu is great to watch, too. Yuta is surprisingly complex.


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May 16, 2016 3:38 PM

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I like Maki. At the moment, she's the only character with any kind of depth.
May 16, 2016 4:59 PM
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yuta and maki omg pls happen I'm rooting for them so hard
really interesting episode. I hope the next one is about her too (or at least just not about that annoying ass childhood friend girl)
May 16, 2016 6:32 PM

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I thought that this anime was going to be the next Kill La Kill, but the more I watch the more I know that definitely not the case, which is not a bad thing. Great episode, it makes me wonder where is this show is heading next!
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May 16, 2016 8:42 PM

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It's rare for me to be invested in so many characters!
Teriffic episode
May 16, 2016 10:39 PM

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looks like next episode the past of Maki will finally be revealed
May 16, 2016 11:59 PM

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I just keep on loving everyone more and more. Tenga's "Even I...", Nico's "I'm going home, too!", Yuta's "I didn't expect that to hurt as much as it did.", Hisomu's taking a video, etc. etc. Man, this episode was great and full of sadness. ;-;
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May 17, 2016 6:34 AM

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As history, it remains a little too smoky in its objectives, much better as regards the relationships between the characters, I like them a lot. Nico gradually begins to emerge more and more. Agatha's words are a blow emotionally to Sonozaki, wow! Drawings and animations, very good. I love the opening, but also the soundtrack is not bad.
May 17, 2016 7:43 AM
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Trigger so edgy they talk about "edge" of pain.
Suicidal Ruru & manga artist backstory interesting. Yuta reading that manga made him (& me too) feel creeped out, like it expresses Maki's hidden pain & issues.
Forgetful Priss & injection, more mysteries.
"The past that you want to forget, is a past that you must never forget" said Nori, right after hearing her budget'll get cut. What a self righteous prick (=priss). Disliked her more now, was great that Katsu developed more feelings tho, and saying those sharp words.
It's the hot buns.
I sympathize more for Chidori's pain than Maki's, but really like the Yuta x Maki shipping.
Tenga's not dumb, he gets the save mission was too shallow to really save her. It made Maki feel even worse. Great osts btw.
May 17, 2016 11:03 AM

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Cute story but so short it felt incomplete.
It is good to finally feel the shadow of a overarching story above them.

Bonus:
A Dragon Ball reference!

3/5
May 17, 2016 4:09 PM

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The only mysterious people in this series so far are Katsuhira, Nico, Tenga and Sonozaki. We don't know much about their past and we don't know if they're who they appear to be.

Sonozaki's an asshole for using Honoka like that. I don't like Honoka much as a character despite the revelation that she could have possibly "killed" someone but even she didn't deserve all the shit she went through in this episode. I'm almost certain she didn't "murder" anyone, the crazy bitch by the riverbank must've committed suicide and now she feels guilty. Doesn't this always happen in Anime/manga/movies?

Everyone's going crazy over the Yuta x Maki shipping while I think it's probably the most predictable of all the potential pairings and the least exciting too. Former fatty virgin with a kuudere bitch.
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May 17, 2016 4:09 PM

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That was the shortest mission lol, it wasn't a bad episode overall, but I hope the show gets better in its second half.
That DBZ reference though :P
May 17, 2016 8:51 PM

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Few things worth noting
First is the fact that Nori-chan is somehow related to the notion of the Forgetfull Priss, as implied by the reflection and build up.
Next I saw the arm injection, and my stomach immediately dropped. Please don't lead into what I think it's leading to... pls no tragic sick feels
Also, liked how they developed and explored Maki's character, while simultaneously building a bit upon the others as well~
Finally, for some reason I found myself very impressed with the scene between Kacchon and Nori-chan where he just said "All right. I'm... dissappointed in you, Nori-chan." Just the overall buildup and scene composition itself seemed nice to me, and I liked the little tense up from Nori-chan when she heard him say that, glad they're developing everyone decently so far~
It's interesting to see how these characters are changing throughout the episodes (specifically Kacchon atm)
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May 18, 2016 8:24 AM

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It sucked that the mission was "Save Maki" but I think Maki thought they only saved her because it was the Mission. That's where Nori fucked up and Kacchon "ripped" her lol.

I feel bad for Maki, she has her reasons for not opening up.
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May 18, 2016 9:18 AM

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Alright episode, the character interactions and romances are the only things keeping me interested in the show though.
May 18, 2016 11:32 AM

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Maki's manga was really interesting, maybe she was in love with her friend...
May 18, 2016 7:29 PM

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Maki's past was sad, emotional episode

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