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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Finally the serious stuff started. I kinda like the new OP song as well. Felt kinda slow but it was kinda refreshing with the overview of the main players and territories in the world. The Eight Pillar Generals also seems kinda interesting. I'm hoping their reputation lives up to the hype. This Vurai guy in particular has that tough look  Definitely some interesting buildups. I think pacing is going to pick up even more now with the upcoming conflicts |
Stark700Jan 2, 2016 9:42 AM
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| Mood whiplash for the win ;) |
| This is the Utawarerumono that got me hooked in the franchise :D |
| People keep saying the plot slow and boring, and now the real thing is starting. Trust me you will wish the story go forever boring instead. The story will hit you so hard and hang you in the middle until season 3 is out lolz. The tear ride is coming~!! |
| This episode was pretty cool. Not to mention the opening gave out a lot of scenes that is going to happen. I sense death flags on many characters, I better hope to be wrong. X( |
| So it seems they are clearly going for the idea I wrote in ep12 thread. We are seeing Haku's life and the things around him being put into question and we are seeing a contrast with the peaceful and plentiful life in Yamato. The episode already complements the first half by having nicely brought up the backgrounds of Atui and Rurutie too, with it feeling very natural and without spoonfeeding. A lot of things surrounding their importance in first half an heir behavior now have new meaning. We also got some nice backstories on the invading force's motivations and drive with the after-credits scene. The OP was brilliant to. I can see a lot of people bitching about certain things there but Utawarerumono would not be without that confusion. |
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| After looking at the OP closely, it seems like Benawi, Kurou and the twins haven't changed in appearance at all but look at Oboro rocking dat mustache xD |
| Slow episode but time for the serious stuff. Benawi in the OP. Hype! Hope he get lots of screen time. |
ZapredonJan 2, 2016 10:47 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| The shield and the spear paradox, that was nice to see. The two general's ideals does seem to clash, which is simply a great depiction of their different foundations! Getting to see even Rurutie in battle O.o, now that is quite interesting to see a different side of her, same with Atui, as she would be one quirky commander (or perhaps surprisingly normal), but as the general themselves entrusted their daughters to this task, makes it some thing to look forward to. The enemy having close to no supplies and what not, making them a force to be reckon with, as it can said for warriors that does not have an alternative path, they fight at their fiercest, as winning and looting is their only means to survival, an all or nothing attitude. Kind of on the same wavelength as to what Xiang Yu did in Chinese history, burning all his own ships and supplies that made his own warriors that much more deadly. |
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| Let the intensity begin. Nice intro to the 8(6) pillars. Vurai's a savage not considering those who lost as citizens of Yamato anymore. Damn. Seems like Oshutoru REKT him before tho. I knew friggin Dekoponpon will be causing trouble :/ What an annoying loser. I wonder how strong Ruru is in battle? Atui's shown she can be BA but Ruru...Looking forward to see that. Akuruturuka? Wth is that? |
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FatefulLove said: The enemy having close to no supplies and what not, making them a force to be reckon with, as it can said for warriors that does not have an alternative path, they fight at their fiercest, as winning and looting is their only means to survival, an all or nothing attitude. Kind of on the same wavelength as to what Xiang Yu did in Chinese history, burning all his own ships and supplies that made his own warriors that much more deadly. Well the thematical inspiration for Uta franchise was Romance of Three Kingdoms,so taking inspiration from chinese history for countries and tactics is the norm(after all UTA1 was basically Warring States period of UTWR's world) Barion-Zara said: I wonder how strong Ruru is in battle? Atui's shown she can be BA but Ruru...Looking forward to see that. IF Atui is basically spearman, Rurutie is cavalry. Make of that what you will. |
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| You know, it would be enough to have episodes like this instead of fujoshi shit, poor comedy or completely obvious reveals and there would be much less complaints about the series. Wasting time for the most part of 12 episodes and cramming the essence in the remainder is still a huge fault, no matter how good the actual plot will be. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| Damn, now I understand why Haku got a nasty impression when Vurai looked straight in his eyes. That man knows no mercy. I also wonder what were the circumstances for that fight between Oshutoru and Vurai. It looked like it was a trial or something. Man, Dekoponpo really need to be released from his position. He's a danger for his own men. I wonder how Oshutoru and his friend will defuse the situation. I liked that they showed us a bit from the other side, in the after-credit. Even if they are considered as barbarian, they are people too and fight for a cause. I don't know what it is yet, but it certainly isn't a black and white situation. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
Antanaru said: You know, it would be enough to have episodes like this instead of fujoshi shit, poor comedy or completely obvious reveals and there would be much less complaints about the series. Wasting time for the most part of 12 episodes and cramming the essence in the remainder is still a huge fault, no matter how good the actual plot will be. "I don't like a show having a build up and characterization phase and want action because action equals plot for me" |
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| Pretty much just a setup episode, but the tonal shift is already so huge it remained interesting to notice. |
| Finally it's back! Love the new op song. Now the series goes back to its roots I with the war type feel. It'll have a nostalgic feel. Specially since Haku uses that metal fan just like a certain great man. |
Fai said: I don't think you know how proper characterization or build up look like. In short, not like what this show was doing most of the time after the first episode."I don't like a show having a build up and characterization phase and want action because action equals plot for me" |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
Sarnik said: Look back on my post in the episode 12 discussion. Having plot setup is fine. Building up a contrast between the first and second halves is fine. The concern is how it was implemented in the last seven episodes, and this is precisely what people are having issues with. I already answered why I see no problems with them focusing more on characters, as long as they execute what I think their intent is for second half. |
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| it suddenly became so interesting |
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| Finally, we've moved past the bad comic relief and boring wastes of time spending entire episodes on bs like "who could the princess be? I just don't know!". This episode was actually good. |
| Finally, looks like we're getting some plot progression. Hopefully whatever happens is able to justify the tedium of watching much of the first half of the series. The new OP and ED are pretty decent. |
| Nice! finally getting started. Looks like that's the end of the introduction and stuff in the first cour. i like it tbh. like in the beginning of this anime, in the episode 1 until episode 5 i was wondering why the show always talking slice of life stuff, i thought this is just a buildup and the crazy thing will happen in the next cour, and finally.....it was an interesting buildup. the reason why the bandit took a fight with yamato wasn't too suprising for me though, but i hope for that girl with purple hair in the after credit scene won't die :D i don't really like to see a girl die. i feel the fight will be good. just don't disappoint the watcher. can't wait for the next episode. |
YizelTroJan 2, 2016 1:53 PM
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Did we saw Munechika's bunny tail? Finally great episode, I waited for this so long... |
| Trolls are miserable and that's why they troll. They wish to make other people miserable so that they can feel better about themselves. They are also reaching out for the attention that they don't get in the physical world. |
| Well shit is about to hit the fan now. I cannot wait until the next episode! ~Great episode!!! |
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| Great episode, so now things are starting to get real and serious. I think I'm going to love this show even more. I liked the new OP and ED. Pretty decent build-up for the battle that's to come. Vurai looks freaking dangerous. I can't wait to see the battle. Hype! |
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| Welp, I just hope they will animate the upcoming sequel game too |
| Yes this is what i want, but this episode was delayed 2 week WTH? Ok no problem. The interesting will be started now, i hope get a lot battle scene, 4/5 for this episode! And.. umm if Dekoponpo is dead, are Haku change his position?, no problem if i got spoiled |
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| They should have done a recap episode so new people watching this wouldn't have to go through the hell of the first half to get to the actual plot. Looks like the show is finally getting started instead of fojoshit and softcore loli hentai. |
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
LoneWolf said: They should have done a recap episode so new people watching this wouldn't have to go through the hell of the first half to get to the actual plot. Looks like the show is finally getting started instead of fojoshit and softcore loli hentai. Action =/= plot. Skipping 12 episodes of world building, character build up, characterization and relationship establishment, etc just because one doe snot like that kind of stuff would be ridiculous in the first place. Also nice homophobia. |
AhenshihaelJan 2, 2016 5:32 PM
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Fai said: LoneWolf said: They should have done a recap episode so new people watching this wouldn't have to go through the hell of the first half to get to the actual plot. Looks like the show is finally getting started instead of fojoshit and softcore loli hentai. Action =/= plot. Skipping 12 episodes of world building, character build up, characterization and relationship establishment, etc just because one doe snot like that kind of stuff would be ridiculous in the first place. Also nice homophobia. Like honestly it was maybe 2 episode tops of actual plot, it was mostly just fanservice and unnecessarily long introductions of new harem members. Also implying I'm homophobic, because I don't enjoy male on male fanservice and fanservice of underage girls is like implying you're gay and a pedophile since you seem to enjoy it. People are allowed to have preferences. I happen to like adult women and even then I could do without most of the fanservice since it doesn't add anything. You don't need to jump to a conclusions. You guys are really quick to jump to personal attacks to try to discredit someone with an opinion you don't approve of. |
LoneWolfJan 2, 2016 6:40 PM
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
| Ok some tactics were discussed in this episode. It seemed more like a prequel to the next episode but made the story line up even better |
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| The new OP was meh... I prefer first one. |
| So much set up, hopefully it doesn't disappoint. A big change from the first half of the series. |
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| Interesting episode, interesting build ups, and interesting story. Now all the characters finally place the main plot is finally moving forward. Hope the characters I like survive the war and I hope the fight scenes are decent or better. Glad this anime finally returns to it's Saturday's slot. And can't wait to see more of Saraana and Uruuru!!! |
| Return of the original cast and Witsuarunemitea in the OP. Hell yeah. Edit: Is that Eruruu in the OP after the shot of Touka and Karura? It definitely isn't Kuon. While some parts of the first half will have a little more meaning going into the second half (which will be much better from the look of things), that still doesn't excuse how poorly it was executed overall. This series will be an example of one where the scores are heavily biased and based on the most recent events around the ending when people finalize scores. Basically, it'll still get 9's and 10's despite the somewhat train wreck first half. |
GileonFletcherJan 2, 2016 8:11 PM
LoneWolf said: You guys are really quick to jump to personal attacks to try to discredit someone with an opinion you don't approve of. Well, look who's talking, who's the one jumping to conclusions and blinding himself with nostalgia. Fai is just showing how ridiculous your views you have upon how an anime (in this case) Uta 2 should be made. it was mostly just fanservice and unnecessarily long introductions of new harem members. There's nothing wrong with that as Uta 1 actually has more fanservice than it seems, and all the girls in Uta 1 was Hakuoro's harem. Also, Multiple Girls =/= harem, this is especially true in Uta 2, where in the end No one ends up with Haku. Let me repeat this Uta 1 has one the worst pacings in a VN adaptation, omitting almost all character development for quick action. and the fact you won't even try the VN just because it's 18+, but you'll probably be okay with playing the Witcher, MAss Effect and GTA V... |
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GileonFletcher said: Edit: Is that Eruruu in the OP after the shot of Touka and Karura? It definitely isn't Kuon. no? That was the girl from after credits sequence. Exact same hairstyle and clothes. |
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Fai said: That was the girl from after credits sequence. Exact same hairstyle and clothes. ... I was just testing you. Nah, I missed that entirely, but the necklace definitely confirms it. Eruruu looks to be the only primary character missing from the OP unless I missed her, too. |
| finally the plot moves forward the art style in the op was kinda cool but the song is meh shit just got real the ED is nice |
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| Could've done without the awkward humour, but I guess the it wouldn't be Utawarerumono without the attempt. I wonder if Dekoponpo will be shown to have any redeeming character at all by the end of this. FatefulLove said: The enemy having close to no supplies and what not, making them a force to be reckon with, as it can said for warriors that does not have an alternative path, they fight at their fiercest, as winning and looting is their only means to survival, an all or nothing attitude. Kind of on the same wavelength as to what Xiang Yu did in Chinese history, burning all his own ships and supplies that made his own warriors that much more deadly. Seeing how he was sending off a supply train, my assumption was that he meant how the people of his country lived in relatively harsh conditions compared to Yamato - the traditional 'hardy tribe people' vs the 'well-off and civilised.' |
| Finally see some actions. Love the OP and ED, good job Suara! So they are sending Rurutie and Atui to fight? Does Rurutie really knows how to fight? I think she will use her bird to fight like Aruruu did with her tiger. And that scene where Dekopopon-fat guy was being ignored was pretty funny. Still, I really want to see Haku in battle, maybe not battling, but planning battle strategies and stuff. |
| If their people are starving and desolate wouldnt it be better for them to try to ally themselves with Yamato rather than fighting it. I guess I'm just having a hard time believing their motive for this invasion or how they can get their people behind it. Also seems like we're going to have another noble hearted woman on the wrong side of the battle. |
Around and around the cycle goes. |
| If you send someone off like that to the battlefield, you are practically raising D-flags. |
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