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Nov 19, 2015 8:27 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Dat Engrish~

I think the episode was kinda interesting as it goes into more depth about the investigation related to Makata Shiki. I think Souhei's curiosity about her is more unique than originally expected. The weird running with the amount of imaginative surrealism was quite amusing this episode.

Also really creepy at how Makata just laughs after the crime she committed.
Nov 19, 2015 11:38 AM
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God, finally the story progressed a little. That thing Magata created is truly wonderful. I really didn't see that coming, it was so interesting!
Nov 19, 2015 11:38 AM
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The English conversation between Saikawa and Magata's sister was nice!
Nov 19, 2015 11:50 AM
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10/10 just for the Engrish. One of the highlights of the series so far. Seriously.
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Nov 19, 2015 11:55 AM
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Please, don't start complaining about 'engrish' like In every fuckin episode, in every anime with English conversation. It's ridiculous. If you are talking with foreigner, you are complaining about his/her accent too?

The story is great, but art is killing me (especially 3D scenes). But it's A1, so I don't know why Im suprised, most of their anime looks like this...
rsc-plNov 19, 2015 12:11 PM
Dub = fake crap. Always.
Nov 19, 2015 11:56 AM
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Didn't expect that Engrish conversation to go on so long, but it was pretty interesting to hear thing's from Miki's perspective for the first time. I also think that the conversation puts a damper on the idea of Magata and Miki swapping places, given the way that Miki was acting. It may have all been a convoluted act (stranger things have happened), but I just can't see it as a real possibility. Also, that invention of Magata's was pretty impressive, though I did initially think it would be pretty pointless until she actually showed up. Speaking of that scene, why do the conversations between Magata and Moe (as well as large parts of the show in general) always seem to come back to the death of Moe's parents? Why is that of all things so significant? There has to be more to it than what we've actually seen, even if this episode did provide a far clearer picture of how that all played out.

Excellent episode, definitely one of the best so far.
Nov 19, 2015 11:57 AM
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I stay mindfucked after SGFNN:TPI episodes... This series is awesome, the pace is very slow, it's incredible!!!
Nov 19, 2015 12:19 PM
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The Engrish....... :D
Nice 5/5

Love said:
God, finally the story progressed a little. That thing Magata created is truly wonderful. I really didn't see that coming, it was so interesting!


Stark700 said:
The weird running with the amount of imaginative surrealism was quite amusing this episode.



Yeah , i hope that thing is exist.

And, My god the way they end it. Suddenly a bloody creepy girl appeared, that always suprised me.
Interesting episode overall :D
Nov 19, 2015 12:22 PM
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Not sure I liked this episode...
Don't want to spoil anything, so just in case
Nov 19, 2015 12:26 PM

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inb4 engrish haters
Nov 19, 2015 12:32 PM

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I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't laugh at their accent and at least the 'engrish' doesn't sound like they got it directly from google translate, but the stiff delivery of dialogue is just...well they tried, and there's really nothing they can do.

"I know almost nothing about my sister who was separated from me when I was born and I only met her a couple of times but she has a very attractive personality that one time I scratched my knee on the swing she said something totally out of place and difficult to comprehend and humans are stupid and I just want to stay away from this unfair world." Yeah I can see why you found your sister so attractive and it's a good thing no one asked what you think about the murder of your parents at the hands of your beloved sister 15 years ago.

Seems like everyone buys into the idea that she looks just like she was 15 years ago, well she is Japanese, sometimes mothers look younger than their daughters, must be something they eat.

Shiki Magata is really smart because she can invent 'plot device', and who put those machines that require you to submerge into some kind of liquid in the same room with foosball and pool?

So this is what Shihi meant for 'freedom', free from her parents, but she paid a really high price for that, was there a better way that didn't make you end up in a physical confinement? I mean it's usually nice to have choices.
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Nov 19, 2015 12:45 PM

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Great episode. This series feels back on track now.

Something weird happened. I was trying to work and watch this episode at the same time. I thought, "It would be nice if this was dubbed so I wouldn't have to stop to read the subtitles." And then they started speaking English, haha.

I'm getting tired of them saying this though.

(screenshot)

Saikawa's aloofness doesn't seem as contrived to me anymore; the characters are aware of it, and even criticized it.

The Paprika segments were intriguing, and answered some questions I had.

Great music.

5/5
Nov 19, 2015 12:52 PM

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rsc-pl said:
Please, don't start complaining about 'engrish' like In every fuckin episode, in every anime with English conversation. It's ridiculous. If you are talking with foreigner, you are complaining about his/her accent too?

The story is great, but art is killing me (especially 3D scenes). But it's A1, so I don't know why Im suprised, most of their anime looks like this...

They're both Japanese. It wouldn't have been strange for both of them to be speaking their own langauge. There was no reason to have them go through all that terrible acting.
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Nov 19, 2015 1:03 PM

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I laughed so hard during 7min, 10/10 best episode
Nov 19, 2015 1:13 PM

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Can't wait to find this in youtube. This is gonna be hysterical.
Nov 19, 2015 1:17 PM

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Engrish was hilarious until the about halfway through and then it just got annoying. I thought that scene was never going to end!
Nov 19, 2015 1:20 PM

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Amazing Engrish, 11/10.

No but really, why throw in a random Engrish conversation between two people of the same nationality? They both know Japanese, they should have just had them speak in Japanese. Whatever, it wasn't that terrible, I've heard worse Engrish.

Nishinosono's dream world was pretty amusing to watch until shit got real with Dr. Magata. And Magata laughing hysterically after killing her parents was pretty creepy. I really wish the transitions from the present day to the flashbacks with Dr. Magata were handled better. They always seem too sudden and "out of nowhere."
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Nov 19, 2015 1:22 PM
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Why are 2 japanese characters talking to each other in English for so long? Even if she lived overseas, why doesn't she speak her own language?

I loved that Moe chose a bikini with the same pattern as Lum.
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Nov 19, 2015 1:25 PM

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Saikawa's VA speak English fluently. Something that's hard to be found among VAs.
Nov 19, 2015 1:29 PM

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Man, this episode was great. Magata's still as creepy as ever. I'm looking forward to the next episode.


Nov 19, 2015 1:34 PM

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Best episode so far, in my opinion. Flashbacks are my favorites
Nov 19, 2015 1:51 PM

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My god dat accent XD
Nov 19, 2015 1:55 PM

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This series make me want to devour it. ;_; It is such a SLOW pace!!

But, I like it. I look forward to each episode as always. <3
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Nov 19, 2015 2:00 PM

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I just read this comment here (I can't think by myself sometimes, it seems) and it would be pretty cool if things turned out this way. I think it's an interesting theory, but perhaps a little too dark and over the top lol :p

I'm really liking this but it's the kind of show to marathon, not watch weekly

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Nov 19, 2015 2:02 PM
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The engrish was way to f*cking strong! Magata's starting to get interesting. Pacing is still like a snail, wonder what they'll do with the last four episodes...

3/5
Nov 19, 2015 2:09 PM

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I liked it. But lol that engrish sounded like robots where u type the words and they reply.
Shirayuki= Most Perfect Female MC ever
Nov 19, 2015 2:10 PM

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ak47 said:
I just read this comment here (I can't think by myself sometimes, it seems) and it would be pretty cool if things turned out this way. I think it's an interesting theory, but perhaps a little too dark and over the top lol :p

I'm really liking this but it's the kind of show to marathon, not watch weekly


I cannot be sure whether the anime will follow the book faithfully regarding the final resolution of the murders, but if you really want to know:

Just don't think about it, because it makes no sense.
Nov 19, 2015 2:19 PM

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Great episode, in my opinion it was the best so far. I guess Magata is inside the Matrix now, lol

4/5 for me.
"Doubting everything that you take on... That is very important. Open your own eyes, clear out your ears, and look and listen to the world... And think using your own brain. After you've doubted everything, there is a possibility of something real to believe in. To believe in something, doubt everything."

Nov 19, 2015 2:29 PM

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Sorry but I liked the enrgrish parts because it shows that Japanese can capable too hey, props to the VA's though the dialogue was not that awesome.

And the second and last part was awesome. Soooo it was Sensei that was really on Moe's side when she lost her parents. And Shiki not having guilt after killing her parents lol. I could see the parallel between the two.
The world shall know the truth soon.
Nov 19, 2015 2:45 PM

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Yeah , i hope that thing is exist.

It does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_tank
Nov 19, 2015 3:07 PM

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Wow that English is pretty good
Nov 19, 2015 3:25 PM

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What the fuck did I just watch? (Particularly Moe's "dream", seriously wut)

Engrish ain't that bad honestly IMO.
Nov 19, 2015 3:28 PM
*hug noises*

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That was seriously the longest Engrish dialogue I have ever heard wtf (wasn't that bad though)

Pretty interesting ending
Nov 19, 2015 3:31 PM
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this would have been a 5 point episode

but that Engrish... Ah seriously it was really painful for me to watch that conversation. I really wished that they would have used a native seiyu for the woman at least
Nov 19, 2015 3:44 PM

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that long English conversation, voice acting was great
and a little bit of fanservice :P xD giving some essence to the episode
Nov 19, 2015 3:47 PM
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I find really suspecting that they put so much emphasis on the "doll" theme, and again this episode made clear how magata thought that the human body is only a shell for the mind. So i have one theory: what if Magata managed to find a way to put her consciousness in a computer or something like that? many things would start to find an explanation and it could be that the robot which was in the room cut magata's body and rearranged it following her orders, dunno.
Also one really interesting thing is the lego soldier in the room: it's actually so big it could fit a person inside.....
spooky...
Nov 19, 2015 3:48 PM

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My god dat accent XD


somehow they hooked up with it, credit goes to them xD
Nov 19, 2015 3:51 PM
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Damn this was a good episode.

Liked that long 7 minute long English conversation, their pronunciation was surprisingly good.

But that ending though. Magata is not right in the head, I guess she's one of those evil geniuses (though for her it's not evil but crazy).
Nov 19, 2015 4:01 PM

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It's heating up BOYZ

That Engrish though XD
Nov 19, 2015 4:20 PM

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dat engrish. halp. ears bleeding.

But damn. The second half of the episode made up for that. When Michiru appeared inside the dreaming machine and repeated Moe's conversation with Magata. That left a cold feeling. From the Moe flashback to when her parents died, and the Magata flashback when she killed her parents, it seems their stories have many more parallels. Blood on a favorite doll/dress gets thrown out. I also wonder if the coincidences in hair color means anything: Young Moe and Magata both have short black hair; Current Moe and the Doll both have short light brown hair.
Nov 19, 2015 5:09 PM

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"Oh how I wish I could escape from this unjust world" ---> instantly reminded me of shakespeare lol
Nov 19, 2015 5:15 PM

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That was actually an interesting conversation between Saikawa and Miki.
Nov 19, 2015 6:09 PM

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That was actually an interesting conversation between Saikawa and Miki.
Nov 19, 2015 6:18 PM

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Fantastic episode, that was the longest English speaking scene I've seen in an anime.
Really liked the dream sequence, great soundtrack for that.
Nov 19, 2015 6:18 PM
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The engrish could have been worst.
Way worst.
But it was a little too long tho.
Beside that, great episode.
Nov 19, 2015 7:03 PM

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I have heard way worse Engrish myself, the accent itself was off and the enunciation was completely off but it was actually understandable.

As I thought Moe's parents died in a plane accident but it is very interesting how it was Saikawa's blood that got on the dress. I'm not too sure how I feel about the very plot convenient super-dream machine- seemed like I was watching Paprika for a second- but the delivery of Moe's flashbacks was impeccable.
Nov 19, 2015 7:30 PM

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There's something off about that female scientist.
Nov 19, 2015 8:38 PM
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The engrish was just amazing! I couldn't stop laughing!

That girl with the glasses is seriously creepy.

Also that sequence when Nishinosono was in the machine was awesome!
Nov 19, 2015 10:09 PM

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That was intense. I still have a boner from seeing Moe's past.
Nov 19, 2015 10:26 PM

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No wonder Moe had that strong connection to Saikawa-sensei. I wonder if ____ is actually _____ and ____ really _____ ___. Everything leads to it at this point..

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