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raven-2112 said: WTF how can you compare Steins Gate and this Utawa... Steins Gate was nicely done and even if the beginning was slow, they dont loose their time for 7 episodes on nothing. Yes. Spending first half on otaku jokes, 4chan references, traps and cosplay is OBVIOUSLY entirely different. |
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| omg, did You really watch Steins Gate ? -_- |
Ckan said: You're kidding, right? I know the first series had breather episodes and some mundane interactions but it never stooped so low as to forcefully shove in shit like this fujoshi market or painfully obvious reveal dragging for a whole episode. This is definitely the same sort of SoL as the first series. I never said I'm against what you called SoL (really overused term by the way). I'm disgusted by what was in this episode and how badly everything was executed. It was the lowest of the low writing you can find in an anime. This was actually the worst episode I've seen in this fall season and I've seen some really shitty series. Of course it's also a matter of expectations from the title but it was a garbage nonetheless. |
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raven-2112 said: omg, did You really watch Steins Gate ? -_- Yes, and also played the VN. And was alos active in MAL during Steins;Gate airing. |
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15poundfish said: My fucking point again, it's still introducing and trying to develop characters but instead of actually doing it they are spending 20 minutes on nothing and spending a minute with a camera panning over some people and slapping their name next to them.Paulo27 said: The show has not really finished introducing its characters. I would wait 6-7 more episodes before coming to a conclusion of the show sucking or not. Steins;Gate started slower than this show and its highly rated on this site because of the plot that happens after the awkward slice of life beginnings. I am saying the show is going to be better or worse than steins;gate but nothing has really happened yet to know the show is heading progressively towards the crapper like Comet Lucifer or other shows airing this season.You basically proved my point, nothing significant happened and we borderline know nothing about these characters except for their fetishes. And lmao you guys comparing this to S;G, just stop. |
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Antanaru said: Fair enough then. I'm not sure whether you mean that the BL stuff is inherently 'shit' or not, but I'd agree that the tropey 'shenanigans' weren't nearly as prominent in the first anime - they found their way into the specials and OVA instead.Ckan said: You're kidding, right? I know the first series had breather episodes and some mundane interactions but it never stooped so low as to forcefully shove in shit like this fujoshi market.This is definitely the same sort of SoL as the first series. ...painfully obvious reveal dragging for a whole episode. I never said I'm against what you called SoL (really overused term by the way). I'm disgusted by what was in this episode and how badly everything was executed. It was the lowest of the low writing you can find in an anime. This was actually the worst episode I've seen in this fall season and I've seen some really shitty series. Of course it's also a matter of expectations from the title but it was a garbage nonetheless. This, I'm not so sure. It was certainly a padded episode, and taken as whole with what we've seen so far, I'd certainly say that there's little bang for buck. But if we're looking at this episode on its own, I don't think its writing is significantly 'worse' than the previous show. |
| Damn that was bad... so disappointed about this season :/ |
kaimax said: GileonFletcher said: I do think Anju might be the daughter of one of the -ruruu sisters, though. Just a feeling. Jsut an FYI Lore, the Child will have the same ears and tails with their mothers. So No, she's not the daughters of the sisters. Also, Everyone remember Steins;Gate? a show that was panned for the first half and then the same guys that panned it, came back for the last half? This is going to be the same kind of show. Also this is not the first appearance of Mikazuchi. :P lol |
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| damn Ruru is a fujoshi lol well that was slow but at least we get to see some butt lol |
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| I'm a bit confused. How many princesses are there? |
Sury said: I'm a bit confused. How many princesses are there? - Anju princess of Yamato, daughter of Yamato's emperor. - Rurutie , princess of Kujuuri, a nearby nation-vassal of Yamato. - Atui - a princes, daughter of what I understand to be a feudal lord in one of Yamato's provinces. |
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| And thus begins the birth of two new fujoshi xD I'm intrigued by the intimidation that Haku felt with that general, hoping something amazing happens soon |
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| Only highpoint was the spanking scene, and that mostly in relief from the slow fluff and boring frustrating princess antics than from any sadistic and/or sexual angles. I can't imagine there being many people that took more than 10 seconds to realize who the little brat was, but then we had to sit through an entire episode of basically nothing, I can see it working better as a side thing in a VN but as an anime episode it sucked. |
CookingPriest said: Sury said: I'm a bit confused. How many princesses are there? - Anju princess of Yamato, daughter of Yamato's emperor. - Rurutie , princess of Kujuuri, a nearby nation-vassal of Yamato. - Atui - a princes, daughter of what I understand to be a feudal lord in one of Yamato's provinces. Thanks for the info. I guess I really should watch the prequel before continuing. |
| Aaaaand we're back to it being bad again - hoped they would continue with the same quality like the last episode - instead they go back to characters doing boring things again. |
Sury said: CookingPriest said: - Anju princess of Yamato, daughter of Yamato's emperor. - Rurutie , princess of Kujuuri, a nearby nation-vassal of Yamato. - Atui - a princes, daughter of what I understand to be a feudal lord in one of Yamato's provinces. Thanks for the info. I guess I really should watch the prequel before continuing. Except the last one in the spoiler, every one of them is new information from the 2nd game. But it's good "investment" to watch the prequel first for the lore, and recurring characters that will appear in the future. |
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| what a shitty episode, and what a shitty anime, since episode 3 nothing happened, did they just adapt an Utawarerumono's game to make money easily and just by making a borderline harem ? Anyways, this anime sucks and disappointed me so much, I stop it here. |
Nuage said: what a shitty episode, and what a shitty anime, since episode 3 nothing happened, did they just adapt an Utawarerumono's game to make money easily and just by making a borderline harem ? Anyways, this anime sucks and disappointed me so much, I stop it here. See you back at the last half of the season. Bye. Also, the ones who actually played the VN, says otherwise. https://vndb.org/v7721 |
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Nuage said: Probably the only thing borderline about Utawarerumono's harems are the (mental) ages of its members.what a shitty episode, and what a shitty anime, since episode 3 nothing happened, did they just adapt an Utawarerumono's game to make money easily and just by making a borderline harem ? But actually, does the franchise have an appropriate following for guaranteeing the anime's (independent) financial success? |
CkanNov 16, 2015 5:17 AM
Nuage said: what a shitty episode, and what a shitty anime, since episode 3 nothing happened, did they just adapt an Utawarerumono's game to make money easily and just by making a borderline harem ? Anyways, this anime sucks and disappointed me so much, I stop it here. Every single episode so far has been either building up the overarching plot, introducing characters or developing characters. But dont worry, because tehre has not been any explosions "nothing happened". |
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| This series is, for lack of a better word, pretty boring. I'm hanging on in hope that something of interest is going to happen but I'm not holding my breath. |
Love said: So much BL <3333333 Inugirlz said: RURUTIE-SAMA! BEST GIRL BEST GIRL BEST GIRL! SHE UNDERSTANDS! (Munechika-sama too!) <3 Yeah! So refreshing :3 |
| is it only me that like this episode? it's feel calm and give many investment to the character? also more knowing about world building and settings? also more character introduction. don't mind with slowass progression, as long as the rewerd are as good as it's investement. |
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| Too predictable, can definitely feel the game flow in how things happen. Probably their hometown or the capital is gonna get fucked at some point. |
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| Anju and Munechita delve in the world of the BL OMG XDDD Ruru will be so happy XDDD The generals are introduced and that one guy had his eye on Haku 0___0 |
CookingPriest said: Nuage said: what a shitty episode, and what a shitty anime, since episode 3 nothing happened, did they just adapt an Utawarerumono's game to make money easily and just by making a borderline harem ? Anyways, this anime sucks and disappointed me so much, I stop it here. Every single episode so far has been either building up the overarching plot, introducing characters or developing characters. But dont worry, because tehre has not been any explosions "nothing happened". Well it's not like I want some "explosions" like you say, but in the first Utawarerumono, the characters were greats, and even with that, the plot was great itself and researched, here, it's feel like the only thing I'm watching is "bath bath bath bath- new girl appears- bath bath bath bath" I know that it's to introduce new characters, but it's just feel wrong... Well, I'm gonna try to watch some more episode anyways, but for real, I'm a fan of slice of life, and I just want that the slice of life's ambience in this anime stop. |
NuageNov 16, 2015 11:11 PM
LeanMeanMachine said: Kuma said: is it only me that like this episode? it's feel calm and give many investment to the character? also more knowing about world building and settings? also more character introduction. don't mind with slowass progression, as long as the rewerd are as good as it's investement. I liked it alright. Some people just think it integral to bitch about everything that doesn't suit their personal tastes. The "I'm entitled to my opinion" card lets them do this even if they're no good at defending it against serious scrutiny. Myself, I prefer to focus on how well the creators do something or how much they seem to actually care about whatever it is they're making, as opposed to focusing on anything and everything trivial that disappoints or goes in a direction I can't predict or understand, or that's just the wrong shade of red. This series certainly does do a fine job of recycling many overdone clichés and tropes, but I don't see why people should complain excessively about seeing them at play here when they quite conveniently have seemingly no problems with them showing up in whatever their favorite series is. I've honestly seen way worse, and the vast majority of it in extremely popular shit that seemingly everyone loves. Sure if you haven't said anything up until now because you hadn't yet felt at liberty to express your overall impression and this one episode did it for you then you have every reason to make that much clear if you want to. But if you literally come back every week just to complain about how much you hated the newest episode I honestly wonder why you even are still watching the series, because you should've stopped ages ago. |
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Nuage said: Well it's not like I want some "explosions" like you say, but in the first Utawarerumono, the characters were greats, and even with that, the plot was great itself and researched, here, it's feel like the only thing I'm watching is "bath bath bath bath- new girl appears- bath bath bath bath" This have been said many times, but Both series starts on a different kind of situation for the country. Tuskuru (not even a country yet), was in a time of warring states, Feudal lords trying to gather more power and wealth while the "little people" suffer for this. While Yamato, has been enjoying peace for a very long time, till the point that the first Emperor is still alive for centuries. Of course they will do a different approach to the plot and story. If Peace is well maintained, then the only other option left for the story to unfold is an uprising or an invasion. Also complaining about the SoF is pretty much moot if you claim to only watch the 1st anime, as the original VN has tons of those, then it was made into the Specials and OVA. In general, the 1st anime was a whole lot a mess when compared to the original VN. Omission of other female relationships (Eruru Bias), rushed short arcs in the middle of the season, and the botched ending, that actually caused MAL to tag Uta 2 as an "Alternative Setting" before being persuaded by users who actually played the game to change the tag to a "sequel" . If Uta 2 SoF parts was a problem, then it will reflect on the scores/reviews given on the game. But on the contrary the lowest score in VNDB now is just a 7, with 16 people giving it a 9 (out of 27 votes). Everything you feel now is because they are really controlling their pace with the anime, not rush it like the 1st one did. Uta 2 in MAL, is actually going on like Steins;Gate, most people panned the 1st half because "nothing happens" with Okabe playing around with the Microwave. Then the plot came, after that long build and it's now #2 in Mal. Both CookingPriest and I was there. Inb4, I'm not saying that Uta 2 Is better or equal to Steins;Gate, I'm just saying the major plot and story will happen in the 2nd half, while the first half is spent on introducing characters and their personalities, lore and planting the seed for the plot.. |
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Kuma said: is it only me that like this episode? it's feel calm and give many investment to the character? also more knowing about world building and settings? also more character introduction. don't mind with slowass progression, as long as the rewerd are as good as it's investement. No, it's not only you. I'm alright with the Slice-of-Life, with yaoi doujinshi somehow being printed in a pseudo-medieval world (I wonder if they have printing press somewhere) and slowly getting a grip on the capital... Paulo27 said: I didn't see it until you mentioned it. And even now I've got to go look at the anime to check if it's true.And you have to be blind to not see that the yaoi writer guy is a general. straggy said: With all the princesses running around, they might have been surprised she was actually the princess of this country, not some random country located god-knows-where.They really gon act like that princess reveal was surprising? They coulda revealed her in 5 damn minutes, we all KNEW she was the princess immediately, it weren't subtle! |
| Some great facial expressiona in this episode. |
| Lead me out of the dark,bishounen space Jesus. |
| Dear lord, have mercy, the BL is spreeding! Rurutie is shippin' the wrong ones too. The OTP is HakuxMaroro. |
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| Was I the only one who laughed when the Imperial Princess got punished? xD Anyways, damn.. All the yaoi though... Highly disturbing lol Well, we should launch an NTR crusade though haha |
| Look like next episode will have an fight scene. Different with season 1 that alredy had fight scene on early episode. 3/5 |
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Nuage said: but in the first Utawarerumono, the characters were greats, and even with that, the plot was great itself and researched, here, it's feel like the only thing I'm watching is "bath bath bath bath- new girl appears- bath bath bath bath" THe first utawarerumono, while covering main plotpoints well enough, was also incredibly rushed and unevenly paced and biased towards Eruru(read: worst girl), which resulted in some weird pacing where the start is fast paced, then we suddenly have bunch of SOL and then suddenly we cover multiple story arcs in incredibly rushed manner of 1-2 episodes, as if they were sidestories. Then we cut out all the actual relationships. Then we cut out a big part of Hakuoro's backstory because who cares about all the lab stuff and worldbuilding about human extinction. Then we do half a decent job at the ending parts yet we outright alter one scene that involves Kuon and that leads into Itsuwari No Kamen so now people are confused. Don't get me wrong, UTA1 was a decent adaptation for its time but its pacing was horrible. The first utawarerumono also starts in the midst of war. That is not the case with the second, which starts in seemingly peaceful country. The only "fighting" possible in such a setting is usually behind the scenes(which is exactly what we are getting), so the show builds up the intrigue behind Yamato as well as showing what paths significant characters in Uta1 have taken and how it all connects together. Build Up > Turning Point > Pay Off is the basic rule of narrative. There's also the fact that while Utawarerumono 1 was a full story, Itsuwari no Kamen is only the "Part 1" of the said story and thus is shorter. |
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| Episode that follows the same timing and argumentation in previous episodes, slow and discursive narration, there is plenty of room to describe the characteristics of the characters and to give the chance to introduce new ones. Pleasant enjoyment, designs and animations are of good quality, I can not wait to follow the next episode. :) |
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| Good episode, I think. Very slowly revealing more about the world. Taking its time. |
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Paulo27 said: 15poundfish said: My fucking point again, it's still introducing and trying to develop characters but instead of actually doing it they are spending 20 minutes on nothing and spending a minute with a camera panning over some people and slapping their name next to them.The show has not really finished introducing its characters. I would wait 6-7 more episodes before coming to a conclusion of the show sucking or not. Steins;Gate started slower than this show and its highly rated on this site because of the plot that happens after the awkward slice of life beginnings. I am saying the show is going to be better or worse than steins;gate but nothing has really happened yet to know the show is heading progressively towards the crapper like Comet Lucifer or other shows airing this season. And lmao you guys comparing this to S;G, just stop. How did even menage to finish S;G? Your whines imply that first half must have been torture for you. |
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| Egh. Pretty horrible episode and the worst episode how to introduce another character. Not to mention it was all sooo obvious since the beginning as they gave it away pretty blatantly. The rest was just suffering before inevitable happened. Really don't know why they are wasting an episode for such nonsense. And why oh why all this BL stuff, do they want to ruin everything and fall into mediocrity just like every other anime? I am so disgusted by the this series right now. The way their exposition is done I don't really care about any other characters save maybe for Haku and Kuon. Rurutie, Atui, Nekone, Kiuru, Anju or Maroro, they can all die in hell as far as I care. |
Mich666Nov 21, 2015 10:16 AM
| I just realized that this anime has quite a lot of useless annoying characters and now just one more was added to that group. I really like the main group Haku, Kuon and Ukon, even that strange magician makeup guy as well, but this episode focused mostly on those other characters and this little annoying brat that it was somehow hard to watch. While I liked the first travel episodes the most, I really didn't mind the slow city episodes where Haku is doing odd job, I liked the last episode as well as there were two nostalgic characters from S01 there but this one. Meh! Please don't give those characters any more screen time! |
| At this point it's hard not to want to echo the amusement at all this BL repellence. bastek66 said: Steins Gate had passable jokes though.How did even menage to finish S;G? Your whines imply that first half must have been torture for you. |
CkanNov 21, 2015 4:39 PM
shanimebib said: There wasn't any bath scene in this episode, I think. Worst episode. I need my damn bathing scene! Seriously though, i didn't care about the fujoshi comedy but the critic on the show for overdoing it with the non plot events is true. Yeah they introduced the little princess but aren't there better ways of doing than wasting 23 minutes seeing her doing stupid shit? Can you have the plot and events going while introducing characters? Do we really have to always watch nothing until everyone is introduced? I mean come on. It's the 7th episode already. And is not like it's some show based on witty dialogue were it can keep you amused with just the talking exchanges. The dialogue is completely predictable and simplistic. So you end up getting bored. 15poundfish said: Paulo27 said: The show has not really finished introducing its characters. I would wait 6-7 more episodes before coming to a conclusion of the show sucking or not. Steins;Gate started slower than this show and its highly rated on this site because of the plot that happens after the awkward slice of life beginnings. I am saying the show is going to be better or worse than steins;gate but nothing has really happened yet to know the show is heading progressively towards the crapper like Comet Lucifer or other shows airing this season.You basically proved my point, nothing significant happened and we borderline know nothing about these characters except for their fetishes. Stein:Gate had nice character exchanges and witty dialogue that amused during those episodes. Also it had more interesting characters. Also the plot was really moving and it wasn't as slow. Those events were part of the plot going. But this silly staff in this are certain to not being important in anything. And don't ask how i know. This setup is simplistic, is not hard to see that this events are unimportant and serve no other purpose than character introduction and familiarity. |
MonadNov 25, 2015 11:23 AM
| not the BL again. this episode is so funny. and that ending looked interesting too. |
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| Rurutie sure loves her BL lol ^^ That spanking hahah Munechika's reaction when she read the book <3 |
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| It amuses me greatly if people get mad at the yaoi-gags. Just start a quick pixiv-search and you will see that Japan is pandering to the right audience. And as a dirty fujoshi, that ships Haku and Ukon myself, I am not really bothered at all by those jokes. |
| This was... awful. To think that it would devolve from something that seemed like a pretty dignified adventure journey show into something like this. |
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