Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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| Welp, saw that coming. Adlet was just digging his grave the whole time. Getting pretty intense. Pretty good episode. Nashetania is still shady as hell. |
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| Hans is very analytical. Good thing he cleared up Flemy's case. Aldet is in hot water now. I'm still not liking the princess. I don't like the fact she's playing the damsel in distress - going crazy last episode, getting dizzy, acting like she's initially not familiar with her powers, then in other scenes, it seems like she knows how to use it.. Hmmm. Very suspicious! |
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supernovasoul said: Cause nashetania or whatever destroyed the altar.ARE WE GOING NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PLOT HOLES.... The only ways to take down the barrier are to kill the one who put it up the one who activated it has to take it down SO WHY DONT THEY ALL JUST TRY AND TAKE IT DOWN... and another thing... everyone is supsious over adlet since he was the only one there but completely gloss over the fact the maura said that she had the key... she also said she had some type of plan and waited until she saw janz sooo. AM I WRONG... HAVE I NOT BEEN PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THE SHOW AND MISSED SOME DETAILS. SOMEONE HELP ME |
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| New OP, liking it a lot. Also still using the new ED from last week with Naschetania which is also enjoyable. Really similar visuals, but now we get to see crests along with naked bodies. Game of find the traitor, interesting how it's developing so far. You would think that if one was a traitor, then the best way to deal with it would be to have everyone work together. The single traitor wouldn't be able to make any moves easily because 6 on 1 will be a loss every time. Plus anyone caught doing something would make them target #1. Zefyris said: Verutex said: So they believe somehow a tiny bomb Adlet homemade blew open a temple made by saints that withheld waves of bombs being dropped on it. I get he used it directly on the door but it still seems iffy something so small worked considering how tough Hans made them sound. Seems more likely someone figured a way to close it and he just reopened it. Also they said only the one who activated the barrier could turn it off and Flemy, Goldof and Nashetania already saw him try and it didn't work. No one said that. As BenMS said above, the whole point is, that door once open don't close again. So if Adlet says that the door was closed when he arrived, then it means no one could enter before the door opened right in front of Adlet. In other words, what Hans said is that anyone who activated the barrier entered AFTER Adlet opened it. How it was opened doesn't matter. What matters is that Adlet said he opened it because it was closed. So basically, when he "blew open" the door last week, and we all assumed it was some like Indiana Jones style fluke where his tiny bomb somehow worked was a fluke? We were made to believe he opened it, when in reality it opened by some other means, and Adlet ended up taking credit for it because no on else was visible. So I'm assuming that either someone: - Teleoprted in there while the doors were still closed and TPd out by the time Adlet got in. - Used invisibility or some spell - Was just lightning quick and was able to somehow miraculously get in and out before Adlet could get in, which would've had to have been super fucking fast. |
KuraiTomu said: supernovasoul said: Cause nashetania or whatever destroyed the altar.ARE WE GOING NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PLOT HOLES.... The only ways to take down the barrier are to kill the one who put it up the one who activated it has to take it down SO WHY DONT THEY ALL JUST TRY AND TAKE IT DOWN... and another thing... everyone is supsious over adlet since he was the only one there but completely gloss over the fact the maura said that she had the key... she also said she had some type of plan and waited until she saw janz sooo. AM I WRONG... HAVE I NOT BEEN PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THE SHOW AND MISSED SOME DETAILS. SOMEONE HELP ME "It was an accident!!" It's so obvious at this point that she is the traitor. Zzz. Was expecting more mystery from this show. :( Still entertaining to watch, though. |
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| God damn the tension. Really like the new OP. The characterization we got this episode was done really well imo. Hans cornered Adlet at the end so I wonder how he'll talk his way out of it. Adlet says, "There are plenty of ways in," before getting cut off by Hans. Isn't the only way in through the main door? How would Adlet know there are plenty of ways in anyway? |
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supernovasoul said: ARE WE GOING NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PLOT HOLES.... The only ways to take down the barrier are to kill the one who put it up the one who activated it has to take it down SO WHY DONT THEY ALL JUST TRY AND TAKE IT DOWN... and another thing... everyone is supsious over adlet since he was the only one there but completely gloss over the fact the maura said that she had the key... she also said she had some type of plan and waited until she saw janz sooo. AM I WRONG... HAVE I NOT BEEN PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THE SHOW AND MISSED SOME DETAILS. SOMEONE HELP ME You haven't been paying attention. The instructions don't mention the way to shut off the barrier. Killing in the one who put it up is the universal method for taking down all barriers. |
| I'll be surprised if the princess isn't the fake but if the princess is the fake, I don't think she will be killed just to deactive the barrier. She is the heroine. |
| I'm still beating that adelet is 7th, And again he got mark on his hand when he was in jail and RED FOG was in his cell like it was in clouds. But he's not going to work for demon king ofc. |
| Oh my gooooooosh, out of the blue we got a 7th person and a "locked room case"!!! I have to scream this out loud ou else i gonna buuuuuuurst: Nashetania is the culprit!!! AND Goldof knowns, he's covering her up or even give her a hand in the murder, errr, the crime!? the case!?, or whatever! What denounced her is that "tired" condition all of a sudden, its because that fucking sword stick in the pedestal!, that is none other than one of her swords! AND Goldof fucking knows it, damn, i can feel it, damn i can smell it, damn i can even lick it! xD mwuhahahahahah i can't wait to see if i gonna burn my ass with a wrong guest! *.* |
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| Let's see, my "say" of this characters this episode. Goldof > Not suspicious, pretty cool and calm in dragging Flamie around..... Maura > Playing the judge and the senior of all. Could be manipulating the situation Nashetania > Seee fainted and clinged to MC.... huh? Forced? Chamo > The little brat and bitch..... So you're tough?! Die already bully! Hans > Ok, an assassin.... very fast in sentencing people to death... Flemie > A hafa......poor girl..... surrounded by people who don't trust her except MC.... T_T |
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supernovasoul said: ARE WE GOING NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PLOT HOLES.... The only ways to take down the barrier are to kill the one who put it up the one who activated it has to take it down SO WHY DONT THEY ALL JUST TRY AND TAKE IT DOWN... and another thing... everyone is supsious over adlet since he was the only one there but completely gloss over the fact the maura said that she had the key... she also said she had some type of plan and waited until she saw janz sooo. AM I WRONG... HAVE I NOT BEEN PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THE SHOW AND MISSED SOME DETAILS. SOMEONE HELP ME They don't know how to put barrier down. It's like 'open sesam' doesnt work unless u do it the right way. Still most of the characters believe killing the master of the barrier will put it down. Is it really so? And though Maura had a key, the door can be opened only once, the manner matters not, coz only the Saint of Selas herself can close it properly. So yeah, the door was opened by Adlet. Once opened it cant be closed. None could enter the room by any means and then leave like it never happened. The room was perfectly shut and protected from outer influece means u cant activate barrier remotely. |
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| honestly, the only twist that would make work would be nashetania. all of the others would be too obvious or predictable but hers would really put a spin on things, especially since she's the one who can manipulate swords. i thought it was goldof before this episode but he's too mellow for the role. it would also be too convenient for him to also become a brave given that he already knew the princess, so i'm going to go with her being the fake all this time. this chamot kid though is annoying as fuck. |
| So, is this a detective or adventure series???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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| So it's basically confirmed that Nashetania is the culprit? I mean, it's impossible to be Adlet, and the Great Demon using him without his knowledge is also out of question, and Nashetania is the only one who can create swords, as soon as Adlet opened the door the creater or manipulated a sword and activated the altar, that's the only reasonable answer in my opinion. |
Imeon said: Let's see, my "say" of this characters this episode. Goldof > Not suspicious, pretty cool and calm in dragging Flamie around..... Maura > Playing the judge and the senior of all. Could be manipulating the situation Nashetania > Seee fainted and clinged to MC.... huh? Forced? Chamo > The little brat and bitch..... So you're tough?! Die already bully! Hans > Ok, an assassin.... very fast in sentencing people to death... Flemie > A hafa......poor girl..... surrounded by people who don't trust her except MC.... T_T Its more like Goldof > I dont care whats goin on I have a princes to look after Adlet > I kinda care whats goin on but I have a pretty gunslinger girl to look after Hans > Nya, this situation is so dumb lmao Nasshetania > Adlet-san is this Fremie-girl cuter than I am? Side with me I have bewbs! Maura > Fucking weirdo kids everywhere! Chamo > I dont care whats goin on but dat Fremie bitch I fucking hate her! Fremie > Though Im'a half-demon and kinda killed alot of potential braves, Im not the 7th or anyth. Other then that u can do what u want, I dont have an opinion on the matter |
| Am I a good person? No. But do I try to be better every single day? Also no |
| oh man...wonder how Adlet's gonna get out of this :o good episode! liking the new op too! :)  |
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Valentine777 said: Oh my gooooooosh, out of the blue we got a 7th person and a "locked room case"!!! I have to scream this out loud ou else i gonna buuuuuuurst: Nashetania is the culprit!!! AND Goldof knowns, he's covering her up or even give her a hand in the murder, errr, the crime!? the case!?, or whatever! What denounced her is that "tired" condition all of a sudden, its because that fucking sword stick in the pedestal!, that is none other than one of her swords! AND Goldof fucking knows it, damn, i can feel it, damn i can smell it, damn i can even lick it! xD mwuhahahahahah i can't wait to see if i gonna burn my ass with a wrong guest! *.* How does Goldof know if he was far away until recently? When did they have time to share plans? Also the sword on the pedestal is just a regular sword. U can feel, smell and lick Nasshetania all over, but your reason has a lotta holes. |
| Am I a good person? No. But do I try to be better every single day? Also no |
| This episode made me %90 sure that fake is Nashetania... Trying to act close to Adoretto so Goldof will go mad and side against Adoretto. Maybe Nashetania used his blade creation powers to create a blade inside without opening the door. And activated the mist thing with that blade? Its the most possible way to do. PS: I watched last part again and while Goldof is angry to Adoretto cuz Nashetania acted too close to him, Fremy looked like she realized something when Adoretto said "It'd be more like you to play a trick." to bunny-hiime. |
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| I think Nashetania is the 7th. She acts so weird all the time and the other Braves don't seem that suspicious to me. |
Kalypze said: KuraiTomu said: Cause nashetania or whatever destroyed the altar. "It was an accident!!" It's so obvious at this point that she is the traitor. Zzz. Was expecting more mystery from this show. :( Still entertaining to watch, though. Assuming Nashetania is the culprit, pls explain how she did all of this. If you can't, there's still more mystery. |
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supernovasoul said: ARE WE GOING NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PLOT HOLES.... The only ways to take down the barrier are to kill the one who put it up the one who activated it has to take it down SO WHY DONT THEY ALL JUST TRY AND TAKE IT DOWN... and another thing... everyone is supsious over adlet since he was the only one there but completely gloss over the fact the maura said that she had the key... she also said she had some type of plan and waited until she saw janz sooo. AM I WRONG... HAVE I NOT BEEN PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THE SHOW AND MISSED SOME DETAILS. SOMEONE HELP ME They don't know how to take it down so they can't do your first point... Mora clearly said she ahs no clue about how to do it... And from the previous episode, they tried different things ( the blood, removing the sword, breaking the tablet, saying different words...) because they didn't know how to do it... And if Mora opened the door, that would have broken the seal so the door would be opened before Adlet arrive. And when the barrier was activated, Mora was with Hans... Kalypze said: "It was an accident!!" It's so obvious at this point that she is the traitor. Zzz. Was expecting more mystery from this show. :( Still entertaining to watch, though. That's just a tablet not an altar and she tried to destroy it for the same reason Adlet cut his hand lol xD No one said 'we can dispel it because Nashetania broke something". Mora said "there's a way to dispel it but I don't have a clue of how it works". Nashetania didn't sabotage the way to dispel it. Heck, some peoples tried before Nashetnaia broke that to dispel it to no avail... Then what if having blood inside that hole make the whole thing unable to stop in reverse? That would make Adlet responsible for the fact that it doesn't stop from the same line of thoughts. Whatever~ |
ZefyrisAug 2, 2015 2:16 AM
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YEEART said: Kalypze said: "It was an accident!!" It's so obvious at this point that she is the traitor. Zzz. Was expecting more mystery from this show. :( Still entertaining to watch, though. Assuming Nashetania is the culprit, pls explain how she did all of this. If you can't, there's still more mystery. we don't care backstory that can explain later you can see all example in detective show *cough* *cough* |
| Whoa, wasn't expecting a new OP. A good one might I add. So we learned about Fremy's secret this episode (which is quite something), but seriously though, how is Adlet going to get himself out of this locked-room mystery? Also, Maura and Chamlot definitely became suspicion to me. |
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f8llenbl4de said: Well I think that they could simply take turns trying to uplift the barrier. There is a spell if i remember correctly to uplift the barrier, but the one who cast it should be the one to say the words. (or spill the blood?) That would tell us the identity of the "fake". Just an observation. But they don't know how to do that. |
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| I don't like the new OP an awful lot, but everything else is going strong. This episode, despite being slightly burdened by properly introducing all the characters, was still very tense and interesting in its own way. Already the suspicions are bouncing around, and I can't really say I'm surprised it's gone from Flamie to Adlet to start off with. However, this episode has made me more suspicious of Maura than anyone else. It seems a bit hard to believe that she didn't open the temple, given that she has the key and, from what we've been told before, that she knows more about all this stuff than any of them. Not only that, I find it strange that she mentions explicitly that she knew exactly when the Demon God awoke. Sure, someone with her power may have ways to see the signs of such things (same wth Chamot), but it certainly seems a bit odd that she'd say that rather than saying when she got her crest like Goldov (and Adlet presumably, though probably offscreen as they skipped part of his intro). As for the others, Flamie and Hans seem way too obvious, I'd be shocked if it actually was Adlet, I'm still not sure about Chamot, but I definitely don't trust Goldov, Nachetanya or Maura at this point. |
| She knew when the demon awake because that's whenthey receive the crest, so every single Rokka know of that. As for the prediction, NAshetania talked about it in episode one. That everyone knew that the Majin would awake in less than a year. |
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| Good episode, the pacing was a bit lower than in the previous episode but even so I can't see how, with 7 episodes left, they will only adapt until the end of Vol.1 It's possible the adaption might go a bit further. I'm always amazed by how much people get spoiled on MAL. I understand it's not likely for a manga/ln which 10k+ people read to get an adaption without spoilers. But holy shit this ln wasn't even that popular and even on MAL has less than 1k members, even less than 700 before the anime started. So how in the hell are you novel readers always spoiling things. Just stick to the MAL rules, it's ridiculous enough that spoiling doesn't get you an insta ban anyways. |
| IDK whether I should keep visiting this subforum because while speculation is safe its almost some people are pretending to speculate in order to spoil. IDK if that is what sometimes happens here(it did happen in UBW subforum where certain some assholes "pretended" to guess the big twist), because I have not read the novel. I would not like to be spoiled on the best show this season just because some LN reader wanted to pretend to guess shit. Shadzzo said: Trying to act close to Adoretto so Goldof will go mad and side against Adoretto Except that she acted that way even when they were alone so its nothing out of ordinary. |
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| I think I developed a Hans crush (≧◡≦) anyway, I think Nashentania is the culprit. Too suspicious. When she was all dizzy from this episode, acted crazy when they were trapped, destroyed the altar, has blade power even though everybody else had hand to hand combat, and just as a potential plot twist character. Then again Adelt, main character, as the villain is pretty good too. |
Zefyris said: She knew when the demon awake because that's whenthey receive the crest, so every single Rokka know of that. As for the prediction, NAshetania talked about it in episode one. That everyone knew that the Majin would awake in less than a year. Just goes to show that my memory on these things is pretty bad. At any rate, there are probably dozens of hints littered in these episodes that I've either missed or forgotten since the start, but a few I neglected to mention in my last post: Thinking back on it, Chamot backing up Adlet's story of the talking, shape-shifting Fiend seems highly suspicious, not least because she killed it when it could, as far as she was aware at least, provide useful information (though this was later dismissed as the Fiends are supposed to be highly loyal). Also, how would she even know that the Fiend she killed was the same one Adlet is referring to? If I remember correctly, it turned into a Fiend like any other, hence how Adlet knew it was a Fiend at all. Surely the only way she'd know for sure that it was the same Fiend would be if she was watching Adlet at that point? If that was the case, that could make her more suspicious as she could have sneaked into the temple while Adlet was fighting the guards. After all, her size means that she could easily go unnoticed, even if they all know about her beforehand. On that same line of thought (of someone sneaking in while Adlet was fighting the guards), this raises suspicions of Hans as he very clearly says that he is an expert and sneaking into and out of places quickly and that he has experience with doors made by the Saint of Seals. On the other hand, given that he ignored the king talking about the barrier, he probably didn't know the ritual to raise the barrier (assuming he's telling the truth). The sneaking in idea could also, if true, rule out Goldov, Flamie and Nachetanya as they were all off fighting the Fiends while Adlet went on ahead to the temple and they were all shown to arrive at the same time anyway. That just leaves Maura as a totally unknown variable in this theory. The fact that we see her arrive with Hans seems largely irrelevant, but she seems most likely to know the ritual to raise the barrier compared to the other Braves. On the other hand, she seems to have a very distinct presence and doesn't seem likely to be proficient at sneaking like Hans is. Long story short, from what we've seen and heard so far (that I actually remember), I really don't know who it is, but this speculation is really enjoyable. |
majiloveanime said: I think I developed a Hans crush (≧◡≦) anyway, I think Nashentania is the culprit. Too suspicious. When she was all dizzy from this episode, acted crazy when they were trapped, destroyed the altar, has blade power even though everybody else had hand to hand combat, and just as a potential plot twist character. Then again Adelt, main character, as the villain is pretty good too. oh yea she just randomly freaked out when they got trapped, lol now it's too obvious. dammit |
DesuTronic said: Don't let kids play with guns  I wish he/she (I really can't remember if this character was a boy or a girl) would just pull the trigger. Can't stand this character. |
| Great intense episode and Chamot is an annoying little shit. |
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| I don't like Hans's reasoning. First of all, he said those doors have given him tons of trouble and still Adlet was able to open it with a little bomb. Some say it was automatically opened so the guards can go out but it doesn't make any sense. It would've been much better for the door to remain closed since it can't be opened without the key. Opening it automatically and sending two useless guards doesn't make any sense. Also, how does Hans even know the door only opens once and never closes? The fact that it hasn't closed so far, doesn't prove anything. |
Shrimperor said: That was good, as expected from AOTS-candidate. Theory Time: 1-While Bunny girl is still the most suspicous for me, Adlet is pretty close now, especially when he said to cat detective ''There are plenty of ways in''. A Tongue slip maybe? 2-As i said, Bunny Girl is the most suspicous atm, especially since she is the Saint of Blades. Couldn't she like, ya know, ''Project'' a blade from outside the Temple inside it? That can also explain why she is so tired, as it took alot of her. Also, some of the scenes where she was clumsy, confused, etc... could be ''mistaken'' for her trying to kill Someone (especially Adlet). Look at last episode where she was swinging her blade aroung like crazy. 3-Goldof, he knows something. Also, Remember how Adlet looked like he realised something when he look at Goldof and Bunny Girl? hmmm.... Closing Words: Dat OP. Loli is scary xD This^ seems so fuckin real... but why do u have to theorycraft at this pt. of time? ;_;.... anyway yes, she even said "please dont think i am unreliable, i just got a lil upset" suddenly to Adlet without any prior reason.. i thought it was weird but this seems like it. But maybe the story still has some developments? i'd be damned if it wasnt bunny gril. |
SaintChris77 said: DesuTronic said: Don't let kids play with guns I wish he/she (I really can't remember if this character was a boy or a girl) would just pull the trigger. Can't stand this character. All saints are female, so she. Also, her name is Chamo. And yes, she's an annoying little brat. |
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| I think that the 7th is Maura, but I rather prefer Chamo, die already you little brat. Btw, again - first ED was a whole universe better that this one. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I personally like the play Chamo does. Playing with her green foxtail (she did it again in the background this episode), playing with the gun like that, I have fun during the episode looking at her moving around. Also, she was so bored during the discussion, so she agrees with anyone liking action over discussion down voting this episode. If chamo was posting in this thread, she would have said "borring, action when, too much talking, 1/5" xD. Which mean she's action fan's representative in there? x] |
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Zemroid said: I don't like Hans's reasoning. First of all, he said those doors have given him tons of trouble and still Adlet was able to open it with a little bomb. Some say it was automatically opened so the guards can go out but it doesn't make any sense. It would've been much better for the door to remain closed since it can't be opened without the key. Opening it automatically and sending two useless guards doesn't make any sense. Also, how does Hans even know the door only o?ens once and never closes? The fact that it hasn't closed so far, doesn't prove anything. Because he stated that he is familiar with her magic due to his line of work and this type of door is not made to close once it opens. Why wouldn't that make sense? All of the Saint of Seals magic have traps that activate once the seal is breached, because spell is broken then. So a security system comes into effect attacks intruders incase that happens. The seal in the first place is designed to ward off fiends not humans and the former cannot enter the temple. So even if the fiends broke the seal they can't get inside and will be attack by the guardians. So there is little point in it re locking it. eshwar007 said: This^ seems so fuckin real... but why do u have to theorycraft at this pt. of time? ;_;.... anyway yes, she even said "please dont think i am unreliable, i just got a lil upset" suddenly to Adlet without any prior reason.. i thought it was weird but this seems like it. But maybe the story still has some developments? i'd be damned if it wasnt bunny gril. She had just once again lost nerves (the first time being in ep 2) and is afraid Adlet might find her unreliable. She is resuring him she not normally like that and can be counted on. What's wrong with that |
Iron_MawAug 2, 2015 5:13 AM
Zemroid said: I don't like Hans's reasoning. First of all, he said those doors have given him tons of trouble and still Adlet was able to open it with a little bomb. Some say it was automatically opened so the guards can go out but it doesn't make any sense. It would've been much better for the door to remain closed since it can't be opened without the key. Opening it automatically and sending two useless guards doesn't make any sense. Also, how does Hans even know the door only opens once and never closes? The fact that it hasn't closed so far, doesn't prove anything. Hans said he is assassin and a thief and Seal Saint's various doors and etc are well known in that community Jagd84 said: She had just once again lost nerves (the first time being in ep 2) and is afraid Adlet might find her unreliable. She is resuring him she not normally like that and can be counted on. What's wrong with that Its a MAL thing. Any character who does not act like emotionally dead sociopath will get ridiculed or under suspicion. |
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Found that on animesuki board  It thought that was spot on xD |
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Zefyris said: Found that on animesuki board It thought that was spot on xD Now if only majority of people realize that. I still saw someone call this "a filler detour" and that "they are wasting time with this plot" and "should just get to fighting the demons". |
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CookingPriest said: Zefyris said: Found that on animesuki board It thought that was spot on xD Now if only majority of people realize that. I still saw someone call this "a filler detour" and that "they are wasting time with this plot" and "should just get to fighting the demons". I actually saw someone on ISML board who called that a" recap episode" lol. That was sad. |
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| Hey, what if there should actually be 3 male and female in the group? |
| 300 years ago, there was 5 saints(so 5 women) and 1 warrior (male according to the pictures). It was said by Nashetania in the 1st episode. |
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