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May 24, 2015 9:24 AM
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A succubus summoned and a ridiculously strange premise. Well..this is nothing new tbh and I'm not expecting much from it. The comedy part with Lulu also is trying too hard.
May 24, 2015 11:03 AM
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This is beyond anything that I've read so far it rises just above generic and does things that make me say WTF.
I like that finally a MC that does what I want and more in this type of fantasy like setting but judging by the story and because it's the MC I've wanted this might be a really short manga.
May 25, 2015 2:56 AM
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An evil mc that's actually "evil"
That's really rare that i can't remember any other mc like that
Seems to be another interesting new manga
Too bad it's bi-monthly
May 26, 2015 6:28 AM
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He actually planned things forward.

And, with the grace of being published in 18+ magazine, he doesn't shy away from women, unlike most all-age harem series.
May 26, 2015 12:48 PM
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I felt that the manga adaption shouldn't have changed some parts into comedy skits and kept it dark throughout, but it's definitely not something that would instigate a complaint from me. I'm truly glad they kept the sex, visuals always help in these sorts of scenes XD
May 26, 2015 1:14 PM
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Manga #1 in my "new manga I saw on KissManga's homepage and decided to check out" adventures!

Damn, as a manga scrub I have to ask: do seinen always have such graphic sex scenes? I'm not really sure turning into a full hentai was necessary though it certainly turned me on. Succubi are my fetish.

Aside from that, I found this to be a very interesting set up. There are countless ways to blow it, but I can also think of a few ways that'd make it really interesting. For starters, a seinen harem manga with graphic sex? Well, hot dog! Second, Lilu's casual statement about how Aur has enough mana to rule the world leaves me believing the scope for this manga could become huge. What does Aur intend to do after actually constructing the dungeon? As previously stated, Aur being a genuinely evil MC seems like an interesting change.

All in all, the dark fantasy twist could make this a pretty cool series. Glad I noticed it and picked it up.



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May 26, 2015 3:34 PM
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Zadion said:
Damn, as a manga scrub I have to ask: do seinen always have such graphic sex scenes? I'm not really sure turning into a full hentai was necessary though it certainly turned me on. Succubi are my fetish.


It wasn't all that graphic. There was no visual penetration. They just show enough to let you know what's going on. Pretty common in borderline H manga. Now if you were reading novel, that perception could be easily misinterpreted :P
May 26, 2015 5:55 PM
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KuroDubZero said:
Zadion said:
Damn, as a manga scrub I have to ask: do seinen always have such graphic sex scenes? I'm not really sure turning into a full hentai was necessary though it certainly turned me on. Succubi are my fetish.


It wasn't all that graphic. There was no visual penetration. They just show enough to let you know what's going on. Pretty common in borderline H manga. Now if you were reading novel, that perception could be easily misinterpreted :P

I guess by "graphic," I meant that those 5 or so pages were what I can only compare to being the "seinen version of fan service." Sex for the sake of sex and little relevance to the plot. Anyway, I'd rather ask if it's common for seinen to be borderline H manga, then. xD



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May 26, 2015 11:00 PM
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Zadion said:
KuroDubZero said:


It wasn't all that graphic. There was no visual penetration. They just show enough to let you know what's going on. Pretty common in borderline H manga. Now if you were reading novel, that perception could be easily misinterpreted :P

I guess by "graphic," I meant that those 5 or so pages were what I can only compare to being the "seinen version of fan service." Sex for the sake of sex and little relevance to the plot. Anyway, I'd rather ask if it's common for seinen to be borderline H manga, then. xD

Are you saying that sex scene can only be used if it's relevant to the plot?
Because that sex scene kinda explain mc's position about women and show the reader that the mc is not just your everyday harem mc
At least that's how i take it
May 27, 2015 12:36 AM

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The story also started with him killing a woman, and he stopped trusting human. Love will probably be something he wouldn't easily open up to again so soon.
But it doesn't mean he doesn't like sex.
Zadion said:
I guess by "graphic," I meant that those 5 or so pages were what I can only compare to being the "seinen version of fan service." Sex for the sake of sex and little relevance to the plot. Anyway, I'd rather ask if it's common for seinen to be borderline H manga, then. xD

Officially… Comic Valkyrie is KTC's attempt on publishing "all-age" titles like Freezing or Monster Musume.
Although, according to Japanese Wikipedia, bookstores are used to identify KTC with adult comics and Valkyrie ends up displayed in that deep shrouded corner that your parents give threatening stare when younger you asked what's inside.

Seems like in japan, "graphic" seinen is whether they show the act of penetration, even with the horrendous black bar / mosaic.
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Nourdon said:
Zadion said:

I guess by "graphic," I meant that those 5 or so pages were what I can only compare to being the "seinen version of fan service." Sex for the sake of sex and little relevance to the plot. Anyway, I'd rather ask if it's common for seinen to be borderline H manga, then. xD

Are you saying that sex scene can only be used if it's relevant to the plot?
Because that sex scene kinda explain mc's position about women and show the reader that the mc is not just your everyday harem mc
At least that's how i take it

Interesting perspective; makes sense, actually, though it still seems more like fan service than anything else.



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Jun 3, 2015 10:20 AM

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Wasn't expecting the sex.
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Jun 17, 2015 2:47 AM

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Such sex, wow :)
Jul 7, 2015 10:40 AM

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The guy used a trap set 30 years in advance ... it sure got me interested.
Jul 23, 2015 6:30 PM

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Not a big manga reader generally, but glad i gave this Gem a try!

An ecchi/harem with an incredibly bad ass MC that not only has balls with females, but is banging them right away?? Check

An ecchi/harem MC that dislikes women and realizes they are often not worth the effort and prone to betrayal and other flaws, but STILL has no qualms about acquiring them to satiate his Sexual Needs?? Check

An ecchi/harem MC that is purposely amassing a Harem IN ORDER to actually bang them?? Check

A manga MC period that is over the age of 14-21??? Check

A manga MC that is trying to become a Maou and is ACTUALLY EVIL??? Check

Really impressed so far, only sucks that I found this so "early" on and that there is barely any released content so far, as well as being yet another series to potentially have to follow for years with it's slow release times.. Albeit atleast it is something to look forward to, and unlike the Kiss x Sis or To-Love-Ru Darkness that i follow, this ACTUALLY HAS PLOT moving, and ACTUAL SEXUAL PLOT as opposed to endless tease.

MINDBLOWN/5, 10/10 series
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Whoa, another good manga. :)

This mc is evil, and his partner is hot. :D
Aug 12, 2017 5:28 AM

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This guy ain't pulling any punches is he?

He kills with no concern to do what he wants and he fucks the pretty girls around him because he wants to fuck with out pussying out and i guess this also has to do with the fact that his an adult and not a teenager.

I guess the issue will be not to make him so dislikeable that the readers hate his guts. Because the way he slaughter those innocent villagers with a smile probably make him if the not most at least up there with the most ruthless main characters ever seen.

The whole thing reminded me a little of Overlord with the exception that this guy is more sentimentally angry and ambitious and because he feels his actions are more villainous unlike someone that can't feel and lost his human nature. Not to mention this guy seems to go away with any of Overlords flaws like shining away from fucking his sexy servants etc.
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Finally, a harem manga that do things well :D
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I'm very curious to know who and how he was betrayed.

I didn't expect sex tbh, it was quite a surprise lol.
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this nigga is evil

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