Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo Episode 18 Discussion

Feb 9, 2015 9:28 PM

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I'm not saying he isn't a side character, but I do disagree that he isn't getting any development.
It's not as much as some of the other characters like Hilda or Salia since they had an entire episode dedicated to them.

I don't think Tusk fighting back was merely to develop Ange. Sure, Ange was depressed and felt she had to apologize but him drawing a line there was development on his part.

As for a tool, if you mean that he hasn't made any big decisions on his own than I agree he's a tool for the most part. Not allying with Jill, deciding to return to being a knight, making small survival decisions in alternate-earth before they were found were really all the decisions he made. While he's made more desicions then characters like... Vivian... none of his decisions have had any DIRECT impact on anything. It's all been indirect.

Tusk is a supporting character and from his demeanor, he's happy with it.

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Feb 9, 2015 10:01 PM

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AvatarJinzo said:

sonakoto said:
Well according to Fukuda's interview when he attended a fan meeting and claimed to have answered the questions "honestly" The reason as to why "Cross Ange" was entitled like that was because Ange will X with someone or will pair with someone, also he gave out possible spoilers for the series during her interview
1. The pudding will get a better ending (I don't get it)
2. Hilda will die but no specific ep or scene given by Fukuda (not sure if he's teasing during the interview)
3. And Vivian's voice actor where she gave out a hint that her char will possibly die, considering all Fukuda's characters she acted out died (Flay (Seed) Stella (Seed Destiny)

Even if I hate It, I have to admit that it's not a far fetch idea that Ange will be hypo-rape or NTRed by the Embryo shit, considering Fukuda is involved, even Kira from Seed had a girl he had a sexual relationship with before Lacus came in, and since Fukuda is try Harding to make across Ange into a Seed rip-off, well you know what comes next

Where's the source of his interview?

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qdknj/mitsuo_fukuda_cross_anges_creative_producer_about/

Feb 9, 2015 10:16 PM

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I have to agree that Tusk was a supporting char but only at the 1st half of the series, since the first half focused more on Ange and the Norma at Arzenal, i don't agree that Tusk didn't have any char development but if there is, only minor ones as the director may possibly imply that Tusk himself doesn't need any further char development, on the side note he is still considered the main male lead of the show, if you mean by character development through actions decisions he has made, yes it has been only average to minor, not consistent, but it is due to the fact that Ange here is the main character lead, and also to avoid overshadowing Ange and putting her at the sidelines, since Ange character portrays a strong female lead.. If you look at it the other way around in SEED perspective its like Kira = Ange Lacus= Tusk

Just as with Lacus, Tusk doesn't really need much of character development as he is fine as it is, unlike with Ange who is a counterpart of Kira needs one, like Kira from a soldier was changed after an encounter with Lacus, and Ange from a harsh and a person hating everyone around slowly changed after her encounter with Tusk

And yes this is not SEED but Fukuda is involved and is kinda trying to make it like Seed which practicaly makes Cross Ange seem like a SEED rip off

sonakotoFeb 9, 2015 10:19 PM

Feb 10, 2015 12:05 AM

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sonakoto said:

AvatarJinzo said:

Where's the source of his interview?

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qdknj/mitsuo_fukuda_cross_anges_creative_producer_about/

Thanks. But I think that's sad to kill of Hilda after she find out her own mother disowned because she was a norma.

Feb 10, 2015 12:27 AM

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Amazing episode!

Also they added more new scenes for the OP and ED. I think this is the final for sure.

Damn i never knew Jill could be so crazy. She's probably just as crazy as Embryo.

So the new crew is Nonna, Marika, Mary, which is probably on the background mechanic and we didn't get to see them much till today. Only Mei we've been seeing doing the mechanic work and all.

Lol the Emma officer is drunk as hell. She really sounds like her Tessa voice from Full Metal Panic! Even has a teddy bear and all XD

As for Hilda advancing, yeah it was weird since Hilda didn't show any romantic interest from her other than agreeing they would destroy the world together.

Lol so Embryo and Jill used to sleep together :O

Her plan is crazy. Why would she endanger all of the Dragoons like that!? I'm glad Ange and Tusk didn't agreed to her plans.

What the hell Momoka is always been treated the hostage type.

I'm glad Tusk has his Plan B around.

Seems Jill has already lost her way and why they even decide on fighting to save the Norma in the first place.

Wow we're going to see Ange vs Salia!! Salia always been jealous of Ange right from the start. It's a shame they didn't get together and now will have to fight and possibly kill each other.

Wtf please don't kill Hilda!! Though i can already see Hilda sacrificing her life when Ange is about to die to some attack or something.

By the PV, i can already concluded Salia has gone crazy and has been sleeping to Embryo just like Jill.

I really hope we see Cafe Ange! With everyone visiting: Salamandinay, Salia, Jill, Hilda, Momoka and others.

Man we're really closer to the end! I just hope Tusk does ends up with Ange. When Ange was hell bent on killing everyone and not trusting any person. She has changed and is willing to do anything for the people she care and trust the most. I wish Jill had learned that instead of being obsessed with Libertus.

Amazing show! Was expecting Season 2 like Gundam 00, but it seems we're getting closer to the end.

Only 7 episodes left! I don't want to end this T___T

Feb 10, 2015 1:05 AM

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sonakoto said:

AvatarJinzo said:

Where's the source of his interview?

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qdknj/mitsuo_fukuda_cross_anges_creative_producer_about/

Well it could be just Fukuda trolling us lol, still if Hilda were even to die, I think that will be the peak of the dramatic impact of the show, and of course if it comes down to it I'm pretty sure she won't die a pathetic death

Feb 10, 2015 8:02 AM

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sonakoto said:

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qdknj/mitsuo_fukuda_cross_anges_creative_producer_about/

Well it could be just Fukuda trolling us lol, still if Hilda were even to die, I think that will be the peak of the dramatic impact of the show, and of course if it comes down to it I'm pretty sure she won't die a pathetic death

The question is if they will stay dead. The ragnamails can control space and time, remember? The only believable outcome with a fight with Embryo is if a shit load of people dies and Ange goes back in time or completely rewrite the world to her image.

Feb 10, 2015 8:03 AM

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my only concern i think embryo fucked all hot women on earth

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Feb 10, 2015 9:10 AM

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FloydBt said:

sonakoto said:

Well it could be just Fukuda trolling us lol, still if Hilda were even to die, I think that will be the peak of the dramatic impact of the show, and of course if it comes down to it I'm pretty sure she won't die a pathetic death

The question is if they will stay dead. The ragnamails can control space and time, remember? The only believable outcome with a fight with Embryo is if a shit load of people dies and Ange goes back in time or completely rewrite the world to her image.

I highly doubt the fact that ragnamails can control time.. space yes and if Embryo himself yes he can control time and space since he is the "Tuner of Time", as it is a misconception on episode 13, everyone thought Ange and Tusk went back in time but actually they just distorted space and teleported to a whole new world, Salamandrill's world.. Another misconception is that Sala's world is not the future of Ange's world, both are real and existing at the same time, it was an abandoned world in ruins.. Cause if its true that Sala's world is the future of Ange's world wouldn't it be so that Sala and the dragon race will cease to exist after they beat Embryo? I mean all that dragonium reactors exploded due to Embryo running amok at that world, and if they kill that fcking narcissist before he destroys the reactors wouldn't it stop the contamination of the world thereby preventing Aura and the Dragon race from existing?

sonakotoFeb 10, 2015 9:16 AM

Feb 10, 2015 9:13 AM

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my only concern i think embryo fucked all hot women on earth

Yes and he'll fuck Ange too when the NTR arc begins next episode, i'll be really disappointed when that happens, I really won't understand Fukuda if he lets her main female lead get defiled by the main antagonist of the story O_o does he have a NTR fetish? LOL

Feb 10, 2015 9:17 AM

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Start levied even here, the main plot comes back on track.
Narration quite addictive, enjoyable events.
Unfortunately they are still the drawings to disappoint most of all, I like the new OP.
Hilda do not recognize anymore, Ange was beating Jill the same manner with which she had treated her, and not in a manner so slight, that big chance that he wasted.

Feb 10, 2015 9:47 AM

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sonakoto said:
Well according to Fukuda's interview when he attended a fan meeting and claimed to have answered the questions "honestly" The reason as to why "Cross Ange" was entitled like that was because Ange will X with someone or will pair with someone, also he gave out possible spoilers for the series during her interview
1. The pudding will get a better ending (I don't get it)
2. Hilda will die but no specific ep or scene given by Fukuda (not sure if he's teasing during the interview)
3. And Vivian's voice actor where she gave out a hint that her char will possibly die, considering all Fukuda's characters she acted out died (Flay (Seed) Stella (Seed Destiny)

Yeah, he "thinks" Hilda will die but "forgot" when and where. I don't think we should believe the guy who said “Cross Ange is not a yuri anime, because that supposed to be a lesbian anime. That's why there is no yuri scene, but lesbian scene."
Also, the title is "Cross Ange" because Ange is going to x with someone? Was any of those answers serious?

Feb 10, 2015 9:58 AM

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I have to question Jill's sanity. Does she really expect the rest of the crew to go along with her idea of kidnapping an innocent maid to force Ange to do her bidding? From their reactions, Jasmine and Marge certainly don't approve. How is the rest of the crew supposed to trust Jill with their lives, if this is how she treats the lives of others?

Not to mention Vivian the ace pilot. In which universe does she think she can convince Vivian to use her own mother as sacrificial bait?

Feb 10, 2015 11:37 AM

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[/quote]I highly doubt the fact that ragnamails can control time.. space yes and if Embryo himself yes he can control time and space since he is the "Tuner of Time", as it is a misconception on episode 13, everyone thought Ange and Tusk went back in time but actually they just distorted space and teleported to a whole new world, Salamandrill's world.. Another misconception is that Sala's world is not the future of Ange's world, both are real and existing at the same time, it was an abandoned world in ruins.. Cause if its true that Sala's world is the future of Ange's world wouldn't it be so that Sala and the dragon race will cease to exist after they beat Embryo? I mean all that dragonium reactors exploded due to Embryo running amok at that world, and if they kill that fcking narcissist before he destroys the reactors wouldn't it stop the contamination of the world thereby preventing Aura and the Dragon race from existing?[/quote]

Actually, if Embryo has some control over time, it would explain a few things. Chris and the kid coming back to life looked less like healing, regeneration, or zombification and more like time is reversing itself. It would also explain how Vilkiss repaired itself (it just reset time on itself). Also, Sala referred to those wind cannons the ragnamails have as "space time convergence cannons". It would also explain what Embryo meant by resetting the world.

Feb 10, 2015 1:33 PM

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I don't know which face is more hilarious.

Lol that's a funny frame xD I've been noticing the drop in animation quality, but I don't think it's been too bad (although Vivian's face...lol)

Oh my gosh drunk officer is so ANNOYING!

Hmmmmm Ange x Hilda???? Although when Hilda asked if Ange "did it" with Tusk and Ange said no she must have forgotten about the sex ed "incident"...

Ooh that fight at the end was pretty awesome! Good think Ange won though. I think it's terrible that Jill is going to ask the DRAGONs to aid in Libertus even though they're just being used as sacrifices!

Guess Ange doesn't need to have some friendly fire in order to make the Vilkiss do it's magic

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Feb 10, 2015 2:33 PM

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Alektra is consumed with hatred, she is really determent to kill Embryo.
And seeing that flashback makes me think there is more between them than just the system against Norma and the twisted world he created.
I wonder if we will have another plot twist again next week seeing the preview.

And the question that remains is will Embryo really be killed in the end.
Or is someone else the bad guy?

Well so far we know that Ange was better treated by the Dragons then anyone else.
But we also know that Embryo saved the girls that defected to his side, so there must be a story there as well.

What is clear is that things won't be as easy as just killing Embryo and things will be solved.
And if Aura is saved it will also create some problems.
The discrimination against Norma is also something that won't be solved in a day.

Feb 10, 2015 4:35 PM

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Matheine said:
Hilda and Tusk might get along.
Threesome in bed with Ange :*>

more like 4some look at the girl next to hilda, theyre holding hands ;)

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Feb 11, 2015 1:28 AM

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Aversa said:
Alektra is consumed with hatred, she is really determent to kill Embryo.
And seeing that flashback makes me think there is more between them than just the system against Norma and the twisted world he created.
I wonder if we will have another plot twist again next week seeing the preview.

And the question that remains is will Embryo really be killed in the end.
Or is someone else the bad guy?

Well so far we know that Ange was better treated by the Dragons then anyone else.
But we also know that Embryo saved the girls that defected to his side, so there must be a story there as well.

What is clear is that things won't be as easy as just killing Embryo and things will be solved.
And if Aura is saved it will also create some problems.
The discrimination against Norma is also something that won't be solved in a day.

Jill is basically becoming what she hates. Embryo uses everything as a tool, and used Jill as a tool. Jill's becoming like that too.

EDIT:Also, it's weird that Ange's not in that picture up there. I don't think the relationship drama will go as far as what's up there. The characters will probably end up NOT hating Tusk by the end but that's as far as I see it going... Ange's got a jealous streak going towards anyone who even remotely looks funny at Tusk.

Feb 11, 2015 3:22 AM

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AvatarJinzo said:

TitanAnteus said:

Ange abusing him is just a gag. Taking care of an unknown stranger shows character. That's character development.

Whew... umm...
It's part of Tusk's character to forgive Ange. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it should be outside of his personality.

You know, you just listed his flaws, he's not very strong and assertive, and then you say he has no flaws? Not a believable character... He ran away from his duties when he realized he was the last of the Ancients so I think he brings a lot to the table. He's the mechanic who fixed the Vylkiss as well as the person who gave Ange her new dream after the war. The stupid romcom, his face always ends up in Ange's crotch, is annoying but I think their conversations outside of that feel real.

Also.

Are we watching the same show?

Strong female character = Doesn't need to end up with anyone?

I don't see how that relates. This show obviously has romantic elements because it has sexual elements. You can't really have one w/o the other unless it's blatant pandering.

1. The pudding she threw out and then ate again? Are the girls who are killed by dragons not actually dead? Is that pudding going to be the main dish at Cafe Ange?
2. She could die a natural old-age death.
3. This actually makes sense. If vivian dies than they can setup a sequel. If not, then this show will most likely have a satisfying conclusion.

No those were not his flaws. That's is his character. Tusk is just innocent guy who is willing forgive anybody who disrespect his family and people's honor, he's willing to let any girl boss him around without standing up for himself. And seriously what dream? Tusk did not give Ange a dream after a war, what you mean that Ange Cafe? No that's not her dream, Tusk did not give Ange a dream. And no taking care a complete stranger is not character development, that's saying you're letting in a serial killer in your house. And Jill was right, Tusk is just a horny guy who just wants to have sex with Ange, and that was in Episode 18. Tusk was poorly protrayed not that much in depth character development to move the story along nor make a impact on the story. but that's because he's not the main nor major character. Tusk is just a supporting character and side character.

If it isn't her dream, and he didn't give her a dream, then the question is who else gave her
the "Cafe Ange" prospect she says she wants?
"Because if we do it your way, I can't have Cafe Ange." (ep 18, 20:23)

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Feb 11, 2015 11:46 AM

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konatachan80 said:

If it isn't her dream, and he didn't give her a dream, then the question is who else gave her
the "Cafe Ange" prospect she says she wants?
"Because if we do it your way, I can't have Cafe Ange." (ep 18, 20:23)

Dude. I've given up on AvatarJinzo. There's no point arguing.

Feb 11, 2015 3:11 PM

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Hilda go for it! :D
Please, can't Tusk just die already?

Feb 12, 2015 7:46 PM

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TitanAnteus said:

konatachan80 said:

If it isn't her dream, and he didn't give her a dream, then the question is who else gave her
the "Cafe Ange" prospect she says she wants?
"Because if we do it your way, I can't have Cafe Ange." (ep 18, 20:23)

Dude. I've given up on AvatarJinzo. There's no point arguing.

To be fair, wasn't Cafe Ange supposed to be a joke made by Tusk? I always interpreted that line as the stupidest way of saying "If we do it your way, none of us will have anything in the end" (which, to be fair to Ange, is true) It simply doesn't make sense for someone of Ange's personality to seriously want to run a cafe, especially the one Tusk described. (And can you imagine the customer service?)

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Feb 12, 2015 9:20 PM

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FloydBt said:

TitanAnteus said:

Dude. I've given up on AvatarJinzo. There's no point arguing.

To be fair, wasn't Cafe Ange supposed to be a joke made by Tusk? I always interpreted that line as the stupidest way of saying "If we do it your way, none of us will have anything in the end" (which, to be fair to Ange, is true) It simply doesn't make sense for someone of Ange's personality to seriously want to run a cafe, especially the one Tusk described. (And can you imagine the customer service?)

From wikia:
"Tusk said he will open a small cafe in a nice town by the sea with Ange, he will call it Angel's Cafe Ange and they will live on the second floor with their four children. Ange angered to hearing Tusk ordered Vivian to kick him off but Tusk corrected his words and said that he hoped they will get to enjoy peace someday."

He probably brushed it off as one when he saw her reaction. Her comment in this episode..well.
Maybe it isn't the cafe itself she wants, but what it means (iow, staying with Tusk and so on).
Why not, it wouldn't be the first cafe with bad service.

konatachan80Feb 12, 2015 9:29 PM

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Feb 12, 2015 11:11 PM

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FloydBt said:

TitanAnteus said:

Dude. I've given up on AvatarJinzo. There's no point arguing.

To be fair, wasn't Cafe Ange supposed to be a joke made by Tusk? I always interpreted that line as the stupidest way of saying "If we do it your way, none of us will have anything in the end" (which, to be fair to Ange, is true) It simply doesn't make sense for someone of Ange's personality to seriously want to run a cafe, especially the one Tusk described. (And can you imagine the customer service?)

If it was a joke, they wouldn't mention it again in a serious setting. That's like.... Tusk falling into Ange's crotch mid-battle. That wouldn't happen. It means that the whole Cafe Ange thing is serious business.

Feb 13, 2015 9:07 AM

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TitanAnteus said:

FloydBt said:

To be fair, wasn't Cafe Ange supposed to be a joke made by Tusk? I always interpreted that line as the stupidest way of saying "If we do it your way, none of us will have anything in the end" (which, to be fair to Ange, is true) It simply doesn't make sense for someone of Ange's personality to seriously want to run a cafe, especially the one Tusk described. (And can you imagine the customer service?)

If it was a joke, they wouldn't mention it again in a serious setting. That's like.... Tusk falling into Ange's crotch mid-battle. That wouldn't happen. It means that the whole Cafe Ange thing is serious business.

You are referring to the same Tusk that ends up in Ange's crotch even when he is saving her from execution (not even sure how that was possible) and surrounded by a shit load of mana using humans? (I will also like to add that question was brought up in a very serious context in the first place. They were part of a massive invading force of flying lizards that was going to end the war and what to do post-war had to answered by end of day. You can tell Tusk was joking when he mentioned his sea snake soup (recall his debut episode) and in return, Ange tried to get Vivian to toss him over.

FloydBtFeb 13, 2015 9:58 AM

Feb 14, 2015 1:08 AM

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Just as "Cafe Ange" was being overly emphasized means there's something into it already, it highly suggest of something, whats more considering Ange will be brainwashed next episode, I wonder if Tusk will use the "Cafe Ange" besides the memories and moments they spent together as a way to snap her out, well if he does use that cafe again, I don't know at that point if some viewers are still slow or just plain denying the whole Cafe Ange idea but at that point it already must be pretty obvious :P

Still, it would be good if they end it that way, at least give Ange a good ending after all she's been through the whole series -_-

Feb 17, 2015 7:48 AM

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sonakoto said:
am i the only one scared of Ange being NTRed by the fcking Embryo guy?

sonakoto said:

I really don't expect Ange to be NTRed by Hilda actually what I'm afraid of is Ange being NTRed by Embryo

I didn't knew Embryo wanted to suck Tusk's dick. You don't even know what fucking NTR is, do you?

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Feb 17, 2015 9:42 AM

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This show is really making me confuse. We have so many pitfalls, so many sudden fact revelations that it really makes it hard to keep up. And it seems like everyone at anytime can have a hidden relationship with the opposing faction.

Feb 18, 2015 12:53 AM

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Ange X Hilda yey!

Feb 18, 2015 12:29 PM

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woah, has ange gone full lesbo now? lol this anime is all over the place.

She's probably straight. Hilda is lesbo for her though.

Feb 22, 2015 12:31 PM

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DarFrostX said:
woah, has ange gone full lesbo now? lol this anime is all over the place.

She's probably straight. Hilda is lesbo for her though.

Hilda's been tsundere for a long time, but she's probably dropping the tsun after all they've been through, and after having thought she'd never see Ange again. She's realized she doesn't have time to deal with that tsun bullshit.

Feb 28, 2015 6:46 PM

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Jill is nuts. When is Ange gonna take command? ..get on with it already.

Hilda missed Ange a LOT!

Mar 8, 2015 11:18 AM

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Ohhhh yes, I totally ship Hilda x Ange, gogogo! Alektra went off the deep end big time. I'm glad Ange was able to put two and two together instead of going with the flow. Had to lol when Jill was like "or have you become a woman?" I guess Embryo made Salia and the others go straight, there's no other explanation for why they'd abandon their yuri sistah ways.

Mar 31, 2015 4:02 PM

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Hilda loves Ange! Ange, reciprocate plz

Apr 1, 2015 1:21 PM

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My dick exploded

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Apr 8, 2015 12:28 PM

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I ship Hilda x Ange because I secretly ship Tusk x harem .
I knew Jill was up to something it looked to fishy from the start of the epsiode.
Tusk is awesome in this episode .

Apr 16, 2015 5:36 AM

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Hilda x Ange, baby *o*
Was Alektra/Jill raped by Embryo?? If he tries to do that to Ange too, I hope Hilda and Tusk kills that bastard.
Tusk, you clever mothafucka. Looks like they will get captured.

May 24, 2015 12:56 PM

#138

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So yeah, the commander is a bitch
The scene with Ange and Hilda in the shower was pretty sexy though ;)

Jul 15, 2015 2:29 AM

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Finally crack her head open Ange.
Aiya aiya.. seems like they got caught anyway.
I don't want mind control plot please.

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Nov 8, 2015 5:18 AM

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Jill's character development came a bit out of nowhere. I mean she would have gone crazy a bit before, why now? It seems like she was set on doing things differently and that Norma should be different then how humans acted. But she is all '' You are my tools!'' now. Ange got some major points with that ''Go to hell!'' answer. She is really more consistent with her personality. And good job Tusk for plan B. He kinda saved the day there.

Hope she isn't raped by that Embryo guy. Seriously, I'm hoping we are passed those things and just focus on choosing side and concentrate on battles for these last few episodes. Shower scene with Hilda was nice. Come on, she needs a lot of love as well. XD

Dec 28, 2015 2:50 AM

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Booty Ange.

Damn Jill. You've fallen.

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Feb 18, 2016 5:59 AM

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Lmfao I bet the Hilda x Ange shippers had a boner during the shower scene.

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Jun 29, 2016 12:11 AM

#143

x0lt0x

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Hilda has made a move on Ange, now that I liek! :D

Feb 2, 2017 8:29 PM

#144

Gvendoline

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Fuck this. Jill would never loose to this piece of shit.

Feb 22, 2017 8:01 AM

#145

Lorezhno

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Not sure why Jill lost her mind there; she could've just lied and Ange would've agreed. Not sure what Tusk was thinking surfacing so fast.

Apr 5, 2017 7:08 PM

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Ragna92

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ManlyTear said:
This fcking show:

Best goal, 11/10.

Also, calm your tits people(yuri shippers & haters alike). That shower scene was hot and very much welcomed but it it should be clear by this point that Ange's not lesbian. She could have a one-night-round with Hilda(wouldn't mind seeing that, mind you =P) and she'd still be straight.

People in these forums are confusing. First the people claiming that Ange is lesbian from that shower scene. She didn't even do anything and secondly straight girls kiss other girls all the time even when in relationships.

Also the yuri shippers... what's so hard to understand that many of us still like relationships between malexfemale. The shounen ai/shouji ai community continues to surprise me. Like what you want but don't expect the rest to think the same way.

Anything beside a TuskxAnge ending at this point would be bad writing and an asspull.

Other than that I like how Ange didn't let herself be used by Jill. Yes for Cafe Ange!

Sep 14, 2017 8:52 AM

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Comander-07

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ah finally the yuri is back in the show. Seriously without shitty fanservice this would be just a trashy version of guilty crown.

also I really miss the cold badass ange from the first half..

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Feb 22, 2018 6:49 AM

#148

WolfWood37

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Jill went full human....never go full human.

Feb 25, 2018 12:14 PM

#149

FrozenRaider

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Want more yuri stuff. :D

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Apr 18, 2018 4:10 AM

#150

FMmatron

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Don't give up Hilda.

Btw, I find it kinda weird that a scene in the opening is portraying Hilda in a way that she shows affection towards tusk.

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