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Jan 19, 2015 6:55 AM
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Wow, so Zeref taught magic to Mavis and the others. It was really sweet that Mavis left him be around her illusion animals, made me feel even more sorry for the guy even though he's basically the main villain of the series. Only 10 days before the birth of Fairy Tail? Wow this prequel probably isn't going to last too long, but I definitely hope they manage to adapt it at some point for the anime version.
Jan 19, 2015 6:56 AM
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Well, this is Interesting.

Well hell, Meeting between Zeref and Mavis and she realized immediately what magic he was Using...

Well Mavis just swarmed him with Cute Animals huh? Start of the New Friendshi between Dark Mage and First Master of the FAiry Tail...One Thing that I did not Expect.

And He Taught...!? Oh Hell, Hiro-Sensei loves the Mind Fucks huh. Mavis the Black Wizard...wasn't it Fairy Tactician actually? and what did Zeref Meant he killed her?

and Mavis Friend is Using Spells!?! IS SHE ALIVE OR NOT!?!?! JUST FREAKING TELL US ALREADY!!!
JarjaxleJan 19, 2015 7:52 AM
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Jan 19, 2015 7:02 AM
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Amazing
Jan 19, 2015 7:04 AM
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Seriously, on top of the ending chapter of the Tartarus arc and this chapter of Zero, Hiro Mashima is on a freaking roll. Definitely one of my favorite manga artists and authors ever now. I just love how he's handled the FT series to the point that he needed to tell the backstory of characters in a prequel series, makes the scope of everything seem epic.
Jan 19, 2015 7:09 AM
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Heh Mavis' magic is pretty cute and charming there this chapter.
Jan 19, 2015 7:30 AM
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Seriously, on top of the ending chapter of the Tartarus arc and this chapter of Zero, Hiro Mashima is on a freaking roll. Definitely one of my favorite manga artists and authors ever now. I just love how he's handled the FT series to the point that he needed to tell the backstory of characters in a prequel series, makes the scope of everything seem epic.


This is exactly what I thought! Okay well not exactly but you got what I mean..
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Jan 19, 2015 7:40 AM
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Great chapter, finally see how Mavis and Zeref, nice to see those two interact.

I thought it was good how Mavis acknowledges her mistakes, perhaps learning from Zeref, maybe that has something do with Lumia Historia. And black wizard Mavis looks so adorable.

Interesting to see Percht reaction to all this, I was hoping for hints of what is to come with him, but I am not sure if we got it, and also Mavis illusions can not be touched, I guess that is a point for Zeria being alive.

After reading the latest chapter of Fairy Tail, I think the timing is perfect after the Tartarus arc is adapted, the anime should adapt Fairy Tail Zero, 10 / 10.
Jan 19, 2015 7:49 AM
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Prudence said:
Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Seriously, on top of the ending chapter of the Tartarus arc and this chapter of Zero, Hiro Mashima is on a freaking roll. Definitely one of my favorite manga artists and authors ever now. I just love how he's handled the FT series to the point that he needed to tell the backstory of characters in a prequel series, makes the scope of everything seem epic.


This is exactly what I thought! Okay well not exactly but you got what I mean..


AGree with you 2 Competently!!!
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill

"Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods

"Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece))
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Jarjaxle said:
Prudence said:


This is exactly what I thought! Okay well not exactly but you got what I mean..


AGree with you 2 Competently!!!


Glad to see other people agree. Fairy Tail usually gets so much hate, but I think it now deserves some praise and is definitely on its way of carving out something special in terms of storytelling.
Jan 19, 2015 8:00 AM

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Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Jarjaxle said:


AGree with you 2 Competently!!!


Glad to see other people agree. Fairy Tail usually gets so much hate, but I think it now deserves some praise and is definitely on its way of carving out something special in terms of storytelling.


I also fully agree with that part.

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Something else, I wonder how Mavis became the Fairy Tactician.. maybe because she didn't want to make a mistake like this anymore?
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Jan 19, 2015 8:48 AM

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Prudence said:
Aiko_Hiroshi said:


Glad to see other people agree. Fairy Tail usually gets so much hate, but I think it now deserves some praise and is definitely on its way of carving out something special in terms of storytelling.


I also fully agree with that part.

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Something else, I wonder how Mavis became the Fairy Tactician.. maybe because she didn't want to make a mistake like this anymore?


I'm too agree with you all...Mashima-sensei is one of the best mangaka and as well he work really hard.Remember in 2013 where he release 3 chapters a week for Fairy Tail during Dember
Jan 19, 2015 9:36 AM

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This would be a nice story if the future events weren't already planed.
Zeref was almost one of the creators of Fairy Tail.
And it looks like he is involved with Mavis death.. uh...
Jan 19, 2015 10:33 AM

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OMG Zeref

So he was the one who taught the fairy tail members magic

Some ominous end thoughts on the last page
Jan 19, 2015 11:51 AM

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The interesting thing of note to this chapter is we get a bit more on Zeref's magic. It's power seems to be determined by strength of will. Aside from that not too much. Mavis the "black wizard" was kinda cute but we never see her like that in the present so it was probably just a gag. Yuriy seems to like Lightning Magic, just like his Great Grandson. :D And Zeira, who I still dunno is real, seems interested in fire. As always the ending narration remains ominous.
Jan 19, 2015 12:52 PM

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It was pretty cool to learn that Zeref was the one who taught all of them magic. Only 10 more days!
Jan 19, 2015 1:06 PM

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Zeref teaches the group magic and Mavis explained his curse thank you Mavis. Their hole interaction was sweet I might feel like jumping on this ship and Zeref I like you and understand why but stop being emo. You can be sad without being emo.

animefan8800 said:
Yuriy seems to like Lightning Magic, just like his Great Grandson. :D
I noticed this too and got a good laugh, he already likes like Laxus now they both use lighting.
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I ship MavisxZeref :3

So Zeref's Magic wouldn't be that dangerous if he doesn't keep thinking negatively the whole time?

Totally didn't expect Zeref's to be the one who taught Mavis and the other founders magic? Do they even know he's Zeref?
Jan 19, 2015 2:09 PM
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They got Zeref to teach them so quickly.....
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Jan 19, 2015 2:38 PM

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Man, I am really interested in Zeref. Now that all 3 guilds from balam alliance are defeated, Zeref remains as only big interesting character. Can't wait to see what will happen next.
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Jan 19, 2015 7:29 PM

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Great chapter!
I was surprised that Zeref taught them all magic :O
And the illusion magic that Mavis did for Zeref (with the animals) was super sweet :)
Jan 19, 2015 7:42 PM

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O.O So Zeref taught Mavis and the rest of the group how to use magic? That's pretty awesome and unexpected!
Jan 19, 2015 9:11 PM

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Awesome chapter, so Zeref taught them magic, no wonder they get super strong.
Jan 20, 2015 2:07 AM

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IMPORTANT.

What is Zeira is Natsu´s mother? She is learning fire right? Zeira died probably by the hands of Zeref! Then Zeref must had been sorry and took the baby ( Natsu) and kept him inside of a book or a shell with a spell!

Then Igneel fought against END, and he knew there was a baby and he couldnt kill him.

Then somehow Natsu was released and Igneel trained him.
Yes, we may fall but there is something that we can do.... LIVE
Jan 21, 2015 5:48 AM

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I loved this chapter. I don't read the main manga so I don't know how much is revealed about Zeref and his relationship with Mavis up until now but this was interesting. Especially Zeref's "I never wanted to kill anyone" suggesting that his past actions when he became that powerful black wizard wasn't lead by evil thoughts. I'm so curious now how it came to be. Sadly enough, I don't think we will get that story with this Zero manga.
Oh and Mavis animal illusions for Zeref: That was really sweet.
Jan 21, 2015 8:29 AM

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Saw this posted on Tumblr and thought it was ironically funny.

Fairy Tail chapter 416: Zeref is the cause of fairy tail disbanding

Fairy Tail zero chapter 7: Zeref is the cause of fairy tail being founded
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Interesting chapter. Mavis gets to meet Zeref and he teaches the others magic.
Jan 21, 2015 1:48 PM

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Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Saw this posted on Tumblr and thought it was ironically funny.

Fairy Tail chapter 416: Zeref is the cause of fairy tail disbanding

Fairy Tail zero chapter 7: Zeref is the cause of fairy tail being founded


Nice spoiler, thanks.
Jan 21, 2015 9:47 PM

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I think maybe because Mavis somehow learned dark magic from Zeref, and that caused some problems with her real body ( something like dark magic is consuming her and making her evil ...), and so to prevent that, she had to get rid of her actual physical body and sealed it as Lumen Histoire. That would explain why Makarov was scared to release Lumin Histoire, because she is a black wizard.

I like the Zeira is Natsu mother theory too, it would make tons of sense but who knows what Hiro has in his mind.
Jan 21, 2015 9:57 PM

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Anything flame related are connected to Natsu,.. didnt expect that zeref thought them Magic,. Mashima really push MavisXZeref..

Jan 22, 2015 2:37 AM

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I think maybe because Mavis somehow learned dark magic from Zeref, and that caused some problems with her real body ( something like dark magic is consuming her and making her evil ...), and so to prevent that, she had to get rid of her actual physical body and sealed it as Lumen Histoire. That would explain why Makarov was scared to release Lumin Histoire, because she is a black wizard.

I like the Zeira is Natsu mother theory too, it would make tons of sense but who knows what Hiro has in his mind.


Jan 22, 2015 4:22 PM

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So far, i like this series. To repeat myself, i like this series more than the main one. Is it because of Mavis or because there is no cheesy fight yet? I think the former one is more dominant.
Jan 22, 2015 6:50 PM

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I'm scared to find out what the narration means.

Couldn't exactly discern between Zeref or Mavis telling the narration, leaning towards the latter, though the former makes more sense. It would be sad if they did happen to die here//soon.

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IMPORTANT.

What is Zeira is Natsu´s mother? She is learning fire right? Zeira died probably by the hands of Zeref! Then Zeref must had been sorry and took the baby ( Natsu) and kept him inside of a book or a shell with a spell!

Then Igneel fought against END, and he knew there was a baby and he couldnt kill him.

Then somehow Natsu was released and Igneel trained him.
This is a very interesting theory. Props
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Oh,wow. This was an amazing chapter. They showed Zeref half-naked!! (That's a thumbs up for me even though his body doesn't look as good as Natsu's)
Back to the review, Zeref is really just a really...sad and depressing person. Y'know,I really feel bad for him. He loves the world and people so much,that his feelings for life make everything die. And just think, he's had to go hundreds of years living this way.
So I thought it was really sweet of Mavis to give him the presence of "living" animals to cheer him up a bit.

Zeref has definitely become one of my fav characters in this chapter. I mean,he's just so sweet!

So he taught magic to everyone,that's pretty neat.
So does Mavis have the same magic as Zeref since he's also a dark wizard? I don't think she woud be looking that happy if she did..

Anyways,I think Zeref is just so awesome. I mean,he taught magic to them,and look at what they've come up to be! The tree guy(forgot his name) became one of the wizard saints.
Hades became guild master of two different guilds(Fairy Tail and Grimiroe Heart) Im pretty sure if he wouldn't have turned evil he could have been a saint too. And...and...wait...wait....

Where's Yuriy?!!!

Wait,wait....wait...wait!!!

Where's Zeira?!!!

There's some questions for ya! But I've been thinking...didn't Zeref basically kill one of his students? I mean,he literally destroyed Hades(In the Tenroujima Arc) without any remorse whatsoever. Yet,in this chapter he said the days he spent with them were his most cherished.
Something isn't adding up...there are so many questions! And also,it's seems as though Zeref will accidently kill a "her" in the upcoming chapters. Im really believeing it will be either Mavis or Zeira.
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Great chapter, finally see how Mavis and Zeref, nice to see those two interact.

I thought it was good how Mavis acknowledges her mistakes, perhaps learning from Zeref, maybe that has something do with Lumia Historia. And black wizard Mavis looks so adorable.

Interesting to see Percht reaction to all this, I was hoping for hints of what is to come with him, but I am not sure if we got it, and also Mavis illusions can not be touched, I guess that is a point for Zeria being alive.

After reading the latest chapter of Fairy Tail, I think the timing is perfect after the Tartarus arc is adapted, the anime should adapt Fairy Tail Zero, 10 / 10.


Ah you may be right about Zeria being alive, thanks for bringing it up as I didn't think about it.
Jan 23, 2015 2:23 AM

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Btw does anyone think about Zeria being related to Natsu in a way?
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Btw does anyone think about Zeria being related to Natsu in a way?


Natsu is 400 years old
Zeira is a kid during the timeline of Zero. A kid who might not even be alive and be more of Mavis split personality displayed via illusion magic(

So nope.
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Kamsung said:
Btw does anyone think about Zeria being related to Natsu in a way?


Natsu is 400 years old
Zeira is a kid during the timeline of Zero. A kid who might not even be alive and be more of Mavis split personality displayed via illusion magic(

So nope.


Does seriosuly no one get it? Why are so many gung ho on that illusion theory?
Zeira is alive, she has a sisterly bond with Mavis and is Makarovs mom. Probably died giving childbirth or is among the wizard saints.
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Zeref taught them magic!

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