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| could it be that yuki is secretly the only hero now and the last scene where she faints is her coming back from a battle |
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| eh im not to mad about the good ending i think they deserved it after all that suffering,asspull or not personally i would'd like if they had at least kept Yunna soulless and the process of the returning to normal far longer all and all this show surprised me 8/10 |
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| Thought the show was well done and I loved the ending! The sacrificed a whole lot to save the world and in the end their sacrifices were returned to them. Yuuna sacrificed everything to save her friends and the innocent people that knew nothing of what was going on behind the scenes. So the final battle took a toll on her body and she took longer to recover. I thought it was a great ending for all the lies and suffering they had to deal with! 9/10! |
| So glad that I'm not a huge manga reader, because the manga readers WHINE WAY TOO MUCH and have to RUIN every adapted anime for the ANIME ONLY WATCHERS! |
| The happy ending ruined it. Also, Togo is less attractive without the wheelchair somehow.. |
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Zyrusticae said: Long post time! I really like your theory, it does make a lot of sense. My problem with the ending is mainly how sudden it was. The last few episodes gradually set this amazingly despairing tone to the show, then this episode was BOOM! HAPPINESS! I think I would've preferred if we saw them all majorly disabled in a hospital with visitors and worshipers around after the attack, then after a weeks time or so the text could come and the recovery could start. I just couldn't accustom to the sudden change in tone during the episode, so instead of getting happy I got annoyed. This might change after re-watching it, as I now have the reflection ready but during the first watch everything just felt wrong. |
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MTM3016 said: could it be that yuki is secretly the only hero now and the last scene where she faints is her coming back from a battle I had the same thought. What if when she almost fainted, time stops(like how the hero system works) and Yunna fought as the only hero before time resumes like we audience sees, thinking it was probably just any dizzy spell?(Considering the others who don't have the hero system anymore, they wouldn't know what actually happen...) Also considering Yunna's character, she will just bear it all by herself, should she really be the only hero left...(That will be mind blowing if it is really true...) I am hoping for a sequel or maybe an OVA! |
| ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Hooray for Happy endings There was still some mystery in the end, was Yuuki really well? I hope so... As for the ending, I'm glad that it was a happy ending. Things were seriously dark, and the willpower thing I kinda accept it, I mean, it's true that when one doesn't have enough sheer will (i.e. depressed) that is/her health gets worse. Paulo27 said:  I understand what you mean with that, and that's what makes me think if it really was an happy ending, but then, what would be point of letting the other girl (the one that explained everything to them) get well, as it showed, if she was already on that state for years, and had "accepted" it, just to take her back. Are they (the gods) going after despair or something. |
| i think togo is an atheist lol.. anyway, karin is back to normal!!!! and imouto-san got her voice back T___T yuna and the others are fine too.. i think so many feels of mine were wasted but i dont care.. I AM SO GLAD THEY'RE OKAY T___T |
| I would have preferred a semi-tragic ending, but it's xmas, so what da hey. Good solid 7/10 |
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| @Zyrusticae If even 50% of the stuff ur saying turns out to be true then damn that was one amazing end :3 Esp the first comment on how Yuuna is still a hero. I wouldn't be surprised if she made a deal with Shinju to let her return to the location she was at before the fight. That shouldn't be anything impossible to do. If there ever is a Sequel I have a feeling the first scene will be Yuuna fighting alone and then maybe they'll show her living her usual life keeping the whole thing a secret. That would really be depressing :/ |
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| I thought it would be a sad ending..but it was the opposite.. (9/10) from me. |
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| Also, Taisha and Shinju is not an interchangeable term. All the saying about Shinju AND the one invented Hero System is Taisha, not Shinju. |
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| Wow that was one depressing happy end right until the final minutes. Kinda lame the way they went with it BUT ... yaaaaaaayy everybody is fine! HAPPY END!!! (I don't give a damn that they turned 180°. I like happy ends) and dare them do something like that collapse at the end again. Scared the shit out of me. A cliffhanger after that episode would have been hell. |
| this show sucked just a bunch of drama queens and a replicated idea from another show 5/10 |
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| Yuna is Kamijou Touma in disguise = confirmed I'm gonna have to lower my rating a bit because of the rushed ending but a very enjoyable series overall 8/10 |
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| Best asspull ending ever. Every girl FINALLY out of their miseries. I loved this. <3 8/10 |
Zyrusticae said: Long post time! And a very nice post too. I'm glad I read that - thanks for posting it. |
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| http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/yuki-yuna-wa-yusha-de-aru/episode-12/.82624 I was looking at this and it made the ending more clear to me. Good explanation of the Shinju-Sama/sacrifice topic IMO, it is actually simple, but it does make sense to me now that i think about it. |
| Yup, 9/10 from me. Though I would have preferred a darker ending with Yuna in that comatose state, seeing a happy ending is also very much welcomed with everything the girls went through. Yuna herself makes herself onto my favorites/extended Zyrusticae said: Long post time! Well, poop. Honestly, I, along with others, did think that scene about the offerings held some significant meaning in the story, but I didn't wanna go over thinking things. The theory sounds pretty solid though. Anyway, I definitely want a prequel or sequel to this. |
OlemDec 26, 2014 12:31 PM
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| It's a shame I hate cliche willpower/"scream and cry enough and I'll win" solutions otherwise I'd rate it higher. They always seems so cheap to me. 7/10 |
| I was pretty okay with the happy ending. The girls suffered enough throughout the whole series; they deserved to be happy. Maybe I'm just getting tired of sad and depressing endings. |
| While i was completely okay with this ending, although i'm glad it wasn't a bad end, this ending was an unfortunate one.. This show started off fluffy, and got serious fast, and had some really rough parts, and excellently executed responses to the unfair situation they were put up to. The reveal of the body fuctions taking, and then the hellfire outside "the world" them being surviving refugees in a world, or even entire universe which has been screwed over by the blobby things... Shit was getting more and more intense and serious. This show was too short for what it was doing. In my opinion this was an acceptable ending, i didnt' feel i regretted watching. From a critic perspective, this ending was terrible. Why did they win and get all better? Because Yuuki Yuuna is a Hero. Maybe they didn't need to keep their bodily functions at all and Taisha felt bad or somecrap because... Yuuki Yuuna showed them! Or maybe Yuuki Yuuna has spiral power and just pulled some magic outa her butt that gave the "willpower" for everyone to regenerate... who knows. It was implied that Taisha improved their hero system thingy to not need offerings (whatever they needed to sabotage nerves for). The problem is that it looked like they just did crap to make sure it was a happy christmas release. Cuz to be honest, i was doing that (semi-jokingly) myself: "Is it gonna be a happy christmas, or a sad one? i'll find out when yuuki yuuna airs." Ofc i still woulda felt fondly about it even if it ended bad, because this show was impressing me. That said, even a good ending where they were still disabled would have also worked. It was too perfect for them. "Everyone got better and lived happily ever after, the end." This show was no fairy tale, but got a fairy tale ending. I gave this show an 8/10 after it started getting serious, then when they started responding to the absurd situation, i gave this show a 9/10. I'm afraid i have to knock it down again because of this ending. Not insulting, but not what i was wanting this show to do. I was hoping this show would end up as another in the top anime if it ended impressively enough, but it didn't. Too much build up, not good enough conclusion. Seems most people agree this was an unoffensive asspull, but not what was wanted. vitaxlilium said: Right?Yuna is Kamijou Touma in disguise = confirmed Paulo27 said: Had to think about that one for a minute, clever one. |
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| To be honest, when I posted this earlier, I didn't believe it possible. It was my wishful thought, not a hope. But I'm very happy with this. htsuji said: I don't know how the next and last episode concludes. But I have a feeling that it could end up with somewhat sweeter than the desperation that most of you now think you have to prepare to accept. To be honest, I think the last of this anime should end up with sad, depressing or heart wrenching conclusion otherwise it'll have an illogical ending. I don't like to watch the last episode with a silly conclusion that is unnaturally happy. Such sort of conveniently inserted ending could destroy the serious atmosphere the show contains entirely. ("Somewhat or partly happy" ending is okay.) It is just my random guess. But when I re-watched the earlier episode. I found this. A picture form episode 07.  Many societies have their own culture how to make a food offering by having the food precessed and stated with a certain procedure. When the ceremony is over, the offerings once assumed to be holy and untouchable are no longer untouchable to common people, who may be arrowed to eat them by themselves. In other word, you may be allowed to retrieve the offerings from your spiritual beings. Then, I think it may be not a completely illogical idea the girls' disability will be cleared (they can get back their body functions in some years.) someday in the town In addition to this, it is confirmed that Yuna and the others are the second generation of the heroes now retired. Taisha has been keep improving the weapon from the first generation and Yuna's effort will be built in the third generation for sure. Even the situation is still extremely hard, there is a new possibility. |
htsujiDec 26, 2014 2:53 PM
| I would have liked it more if there was at least some sacrifice, but well this is okay. 4/5 for this episode. The pitch perfect ending isn't my coup of tea, especially not in this show which, while not bad, had me not perfectly engaged in it. Overall I am not sure if this deserves a 7/10, I give it one for now, and reevaluate it again at some point. It is at least in my eyes better than Madoka Magica, and I know from some people that they think the same about this anime. |
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| I think that this was a great ending to the show. The characters were developed so well throughout the episodes that we as watchers started to believe what was being said. The Shinju DID mention that they would recover soon, but the girls came to the conclusion that their injures were permanent on their own, despite what the shinju told them, and we all believed it. If anything, you could say that the characters were developed so well that we believed what they said and started to feel for the characters when things got tough. We believed it to the very end, just like they did, so it came as a shock to us when we found out they were going to be okay. For me, the story line was great and simple. Characters were amazing and each played an important role throughout the series. The OST was perfect. Storyline 8/10 Characters 9/10 Soundtrack 10/10 Overall 9.5/10 This was easily my favorite anime from this season! |
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minaeshi said: The Shinju DID mention that they would recover soon, but the girls came to the conclusion that their injures were permanent on their own, despite what the shinju told them, and we all believed it. Nope, it was Taisha who told them they will be OK, and it was a lie that turned out to be a truth, which was so conveniently lucky. |
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| Putting this here because oh my goodness this makes WAY too much sense: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qgskv/spoilers_yuuki_yuuna_wa_yuusha_de_aru_ending/ |
| This episode is just too great. i never expect this show would become so interesting in the last episode. I'm getting bored since the first episode, but it's definitely worth it to watch this show. the last episode is just too great. Love this show so much. <3 |
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sroque said: DawnJ said: Nope, it was Taisha who told them they will be OK, and it was a lie that turned out to be a truth, which was so conveniently lucky. This is just you assuming. On what basis do you have to say that the Taisha were lying? Based on what Sonoko said? She assumed that the effects of the Sange were permanent because her disabilities never healed, but at the same time she had never gotten her powers taken away from her. The only hero that had her hero rights revoked and their terminal taken away was Gin and she had died already. So Sonoko wasn't necessarily telling the truth, but rather she was telling the story of her disabilities through what she observed from personal experience. The Taisha could have been telling the truth the whole time. They are on the same side after all. When you quote, quote the whole thing if it's not that long. He said "Shinjuu did mention", and as you know or try not to believe, Shinjuu says nothing in the whole series. It's only the Taisha who serves gods and talks to the heroes. And if you believe what you assumed, believe what you want. It's pretty much obvious that disabilities of 1st and 2nd generation of heroes was supposed to be permanent, as everyone of 1nd crew except Sonoko and Togo died and Sonoko is(was) crippled. It's only the last episode that gods changed the detail of their plan and all the disabilities are gone. Believe what you want, but you should know that you are also assuming, because picking up "t3h f0resh@d0wing" is pretty much second-guessing, and the anime does not explain much about it. |
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Zyrusticae said: Putting this here because oh my goodness this makes WAY too much sense: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qgskv/spoilers_yuuki_yuuna_wa_yuusha_de_aru_ending/ I just happen to click this and I'm interested. If this is true (which I'm starting to believe), then this is far from a happy ending. I'm all for the idea though, mainly because it means I dismissed alot of subtle hints and lots of foreshadowing (like most people...), but also because I don't really like the happy ending. This theory also gives importance to many moments in this episode, especially Togo's story/play plot and Yuuna fainting which I thought were there for the sentiment and drama. And it gives true meaning to the title. This also really supports some important yet subtle build-up and foreshadowing throughout the series! I love it. It's not stretched symbolism, which is good. :3 I encourage anyone who didn't even remotely like the ending to read the link, it might make the series much more enjoyable for you. And since you invested time to watch 12 episodes, you might as well spend a few more minutes reading an alternate interpretation to make the "crap/meh/happy ending" justified. It's worth noting atleast. |
MirorinDec 27, 2014 1:29 AM
sroque said: DawnJ said: When you quote, quote the whole thing if it's not that long. He said "Shinjuu did mention", and as you know or try not to believe, Shinjuu says nothing in the whole series. It's only the Taisha who serves gods and talks to the heroes. And if you believe what you assumed, believe what you want. It's pretty much obvious that disabilities of 1st and 2nd generation of heroes was supposed to be permanent, as everyone of 1nd crew except Sonoko and Togo died and Sonoko is(was) crippled. It's only the last episode that gods changed the detail of their plan and all the disabilities are gone. Believe what you want, but you should know that you are also assuming, because picking up "t3h f0resh@d0wing" is pretty much second-guessing, and the anime does not explain much about it. I'm not assuming anything. I'm going with the evidence that is present in the show. I'm telling you that there is enough evidence in the show itself for there to be doubt that the Taisha were lying the whole time. The Taisha said that they would get better in time repeatedly. Them saying this is a fact. Whether we believe them or not is a different subject. Something can't be convenient if it is foreshadowed. In fact, there's more foreshadowing that suggests that the disabilities aren't permanent than there is proof that they were supposed to be permanent. And if it was "pretty much obvious" that the disabilities were permanent then how can you even acknowledge that there was foreshadowing in the previous episodes. You obviously know about it since you're mocking the people who picked up on it by calling it "t3h f0resh@d0wing". Just to add some information just in case you didn't aware of it, the taisha knows what happened to Nogi Sonoko, yet they didn't reveal this information to Fuu groups even when they inquire about it. If you've read the light novel of Washio Sumi you'll know that the Taisha is closely monitoring the system that they were making, especially documented in Taisha History Documentaries Department by the agent under pseudonym "miko-sama". It is also revealed that the Taisha informed the family of the 2nd generation heroes (Washio Sumi and Nogi Sonoko) that their daughters is now being presented to Shinju as 'offerings', which causes grief to the family. I suspect this is the first time 'Mankai' ability was applied to the Hero System by using Shinju powers. Yet they left out the girls in the dark of the new system. Nogi Sonoko was the one who found out first-hand during the battle against Leo class Vertex with Washio Sumi. The fact that Nogi Sonoko and Washio Sumi never gets better is because Taisha refuse to reveal their 'offerings' system. Taisha was outright lying when Fuu asked about the mankai after effects for so many times. Shinju, throughout the series either in the animation or the light novel never really interact with the girls, it was Taisha who managed the whole system, including the hero 'offerings' system and fairy system. Regarding it's will or purpose was never revealed to the audience except the narrative of 'good gods' protecting humanity. |
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sroque said: I'm not assuming anything. I'm going with the evidence that is present in the show. I'm telling you that there is enough evidence in the show itself for there to be doubt that the Taisha were lying the whole time. The Taisha said that they would get better in time repeatedly. Them saying this is a fact. Whether we believe them or not is a different subject. Something can't be convenient if it is foreshadowed. In fact, there's more foreshadowing that suggests that the disabilities aren't permanent than there is proof that they were supposed to be permanent. And if it was "pretty much obvious" that the disabilities were permanent then how can you even acknowledge that there was foreshadowing in the previous episodes. You obviously know about it since you're mocking the people who picked up on it by calling it "t3h f0resh@d0wing". Yes, you are, if you catch what I mean by "second-guessing". Here are the facts that we all know: 1. Heroes lost their bodily functions. 2. Taisha (not the gods directly) told heroes that they will be OK (repeatedly). 3. One of the former generation of the heroes are crippled as hell and tell them "the truth". 4. They perceived them as permanent. 5. There's the "foreshadowing" that vaguely tells a hint (if you want to believe it) they would recover, which actually can be translated in different ways. 6. The final fight happened and BOOM, heroes started to recover. 7. You and some people saying "YEAHHHHH FORESHADOW SO RIIIIIIIIGHT" Your argument bases on: 1. Taisha told'em repeatedly. 2. It happened that way. <----SECOND-GUESSING ALERT! Yeah, because you are gonna believe everything if someone tell you hard enough? There is Taisha, who doesn't reveal themselves much except sending text message, we don't know what they do or are except that they command/choose heroes. And there is Sonoko and Togo, who are the former generation of the heroes, who's lost their bodily functions. They'd been crippled before the final fight ended. There is no firm evidence that Taisha actually knew that heroes would be recovered, other that "LOL IT DID", which is pretty much invalid as a basis. There's some strange case unexplained for Yuuna, but let's skip this now. Heroes are recovered/recovering, that's a fact. But is that Taisha actually knew they would recover a fact? There's no way to know. And I believe they were lying for comforting (and you don't). Even the foreshadowing doesn't support this case. Why? Because Taisha does almost nothing other than sending messages. A coin toss, this whole thing is. There are bunch of theories, but they are theories. The thing is, the "creators" are not perfectionists, most of the times. I respect people picking up small details and creating a story, plausible or not, but still, it's just for fun reading. Let's take an example of Evangelion, I've read many speculations/theories/review or whatever for analyzing it, and guess what, the creators didn't think much into it 4realz, they just put them there without much thinking, and watchers added meanings to them. And it is the things happening right now, just like other fictions which has some or many blanks. |
DawnJDec 27, 2014 6:26 AM
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Zyrusticae said: Ever consider these are details thrown in meant to make you come up with stuff even though there is no actual ambiguous ending? Distractive detail -is- a literary device.http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qgskv/spoilers_yuuki_yuuna_wa_yuusha_de_aru_ending/ Regardless, only a sequel will tell for sure. ^^ I haven't read any of the manga. |
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| love it man i knew from the start it was gonna have madoka vibes and everyone was laughing at me |
| I was ok with the ending. 7/10 |
| Most unexpected anime of 2014...... Really awesome and beautiful. :3 The level of friendship is so high! D: Really great. x3 I really enjoyed this anime though, good thing it didn't turn out to be something like Madoka haha. xD It was very memorable, enjoyable, surprisingly intense, and more! :D |
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| I am happy for the good ending! Yeah, specially glad they all recovered! 7/10 |
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Zyrusticae said: Putting this here because oh my goodness this makes WAY too much sense: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2qgskv/spoilers_yuuki_yuuna_wa_yuusha_de_aru_ending/ Just watched the last episode today, and I did wonder about why would Shinjuu just let them go, thinking myself it was because they proved to be too much of a risk, and Yuuna seems to be the ideal character for their use. Nice speculation by CleffSerados from redditt. Anyways, this series was a treat. Nice slice of life with a solid dramatic point (Yumi Uchiyama doing a great job). Gotta admit that I did not like the scenes whenever they went into the "forestized" dimension; events were to cringey for me (besides Karin's soloing u.u). Seems like I'll prefer this story in a written form, so I am definitely looking forward to the light novel(s). |
DGemuDec 27, 2014 4:40 PM
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| You are simply explaining what happened in the story that I already know. I'll say it again: you are second-guessing. It's so easy to "put the pieces together" when you already finished watching/reading a story. Plus, you are wrong. The "fairy system" never existed in the former generations. Yes, we could expect they were somehow related to disabilities by looking at Gyuki (but other fairies does not much have "hints"), but fairies gone and the disabilties gone? I guess gods can retroactively change everything, no wonder, they are almighty eh? This is going so dumb. And about Taisha, any comments about it not from the creators are simply pointless. I'll skip it. p.s.MAL forum board system is freaking up, so hard to write. |
DawnJDec 27, 2014 4:51 PM
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