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Dec 6, 2014 10:26 AM

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Wow... I never thought that SAO could be so depressing like this.
One thing I did notice that doesn't seem to have been picked up on: near the end, Yuuki mentioned that two of the members of the Sleeping Knights were told that they have less than three months to live. Now, it's safe to assume that one of these is Yuuki herself, but I wonder who the other one is?
Dec 6, 2014 10:27 AM

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Mmmmh... they didn't talk about her father yet. Could he be the doctor?

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Oh, ok. I guess I should have rewatched that part before posting.
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Dec 6, 2014 10:28 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Bomb2chest said:

That's what I don't get. I thought the mother got HIV from the blood transfusion. Wouldn't they give the mother blood after the c-section not during ? If they meant to say she was given blood during c-section and the twins were not born then that makes sense. Or do I just have this all backwards 0.o ?


You can be contaminated by exchange of fluids too.

By the time she was diagnosed, whole family was sick.

I knew that just didn't really think about it. Basically Yuuki's mother got the virus from the blood during or after the birth. The father and the twins caught the virus within that 5 month period before they found out. :(
Dec 6, 2014 10:30 AM

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Ruzgfpegk said:
Mmmmh... they didn't talk about her father yet. Could he be the doctor?

Both the parents died as well. Yuuki went into the full dive system 3 years ago. The doctor said the parents died 2 years ago and her sister died 1 year ago.
Dec 6, 2014 10:32 AM

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roby666 said:
Episodes like this are not the reason why I watch SAO.
Then what do you watch it for? Because this is what SAO is about, and always have been.
Dec 6, 2014 10:34 AM
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BotatoPriest said:
roby666 said:
Episodes like this are not the reason why I watch SAO.
Then what do you watch it for? Because this is what SAO is about, and always have been.

I'm just so glad A-1 didn't butcher this arc. Some scenes and details were skipped, but within the expectation and tolerance range.
Dec 6, 2014 10:34 AM
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Q.Q poor Yuki

This show must deserve a high score then first season at least..
Dec 6, 2014 10:52 AM
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That episode broke me.....

I knew that death was involved but not like this. This was just overwhelmingly depressing.

I am in utter shock right now, like I feel empty inside. And to make matters worse, the entire guild are all dying too

This arc.....I dunno what to say but honestly this arc, heck thjs entire season is without a doubt better than season one
Dec 6, 2014 10:53 AM
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They actually dumbified the conversation a lot so I took an excerpt of it from the novel. I removed pretty much everything other than the conversation itself (like how they were in an elevator rather than in a private business room) so this isn't actually the full text. They also go in much greater detail about the Medicuboid but I'm sure the anime watchers don't care about that:



Edit: Added excerpt about Yuuki's past which gives more details about her childhood such as the bullying and her degeneration: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1304067&show=100#msg36492257
-Karoshi-Dec 6, 2014 11:04 AM
Dec 6, 2014 10:56 AM

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I liked this ep, but... yeah, a desease is an awful thing... It's sad that always the best characters have to die...
Dec 6, 2014 10:57 AM

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Most of us knew this was going to happen, but in a little more detail then that but the feels are just the same

Dec 6, 2014 10:59 AM

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ahhh, the benefits of having a boyfriend that can do almost anything!
all in all, i completely loved this episode! i never thought i would like SAO this much, but somehow i do.
Dec 6, 2014 11:03 AM
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Boy did that still hit hard even after going through it the first time around in the LN.

LastChapter said:
They actually dumbified the conversation a lot so I took an excerpt of it from the novel. I removed pretty much everything other than the conversation itself (like how they were in an elevator rather than in a private business room) so this isn't actually the full text. They also go in much greater detail about the Medicuboid but I'm sure the anime watchers don't care about that:



Yeah well, they didn't really cut out much of the sci-fi stuff, but rather simplified the medical lesson, which I think is a good thing (it was borderline TMI in the LN).

Kirito - the Izaya of SAO.
Dec 6, 2014 11:06 AM
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Oh, poor Yuki, then again, I'm thinking that she gonna live as an NPC in the virtual world. So all members of the Sleeping Knights were ill in the real world, so their disbandment was because one by one is kicking the bucket.
yeo
Dec 6, 2014 11:08 AM
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I haven't read the novel's, so I was not ready for that.

When it cliked it my head that all of the sleeping knights were terminally ill... Oh dear, to quote the infamous Ron Burgundy, "Well that escalated quickly."

It's nice that ole kazuto has his nifty little camera/sensory device for yui and yuuki though. Next episode shall be bittersweet. I feels it.
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LastChapter said:
They actually dumbified the conversation a lot so I took an excerpt of it from the novel. I removed pretty much everything other than the conversation itself (like how they were in an elevator rather than in a private business room) so this isn't actually the full text. They also go in much greater detail about the Medicuboid but I'm sure the anime watchers don't care about that:



Edit: Added excerpt about Yuuki's past which gives more details about her childhood such as the bullying and her degeneration: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1304067&show=100#msg36492257

I'm guessing since she is in a full dive system her skills are amazing in VR. Is this because of the medical bed she is in ? Does it give full control over her body compared to the natural VR gear ?
Dec 6, 2014 11:10 AM
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I'm guessing since she is in a full dive system her skills are amazing in VR. Is this because of the medical bed she is in ? Does it give full control over her body compared to the natural VR gear ?

From the wikia:

The Medicuboid has a stronger electromagnetic output than both the NerveGear and the AmuSphere so it can make muscles completely numb and cancel out the spinal reflexes - making it possible to avoid using anesthetics which still have a small but rare risk. It has many more pulse generated components than the NerveGear and its CPU far surpasses the processing speed of the AmuSphere. These superior specs can enhance the in-game abilities of the user, although Asuna does not suspect that this is the source of Yuuki's amazing skills. The user can communicate with the outside through the speakers installed in the Medicuboid. During speech the screen on the machine will display the message "user talking."
Dec 6, 2014 11:17 AM

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LastChapter said:
Bomb2chest said:
I'm guessing since she is in a full dive system her skills are amazing in VR. Is this because of the medical bed she is in ? Does it give full control over her body compared to the natural VR gear ?

From the wikia:

The Medicuboid has a stronger electromagnetic output than both the NerveGear and the AmuSphere so it can make muscles completely numb and cancel out the spinal reflexes - making it possible to avoid using anesthetics which still have a small but rare risk. It has many more pulse generated components than the NerveGear and its CPU far surpasses the processing speed of the AmuSphere. These superior specs can enhance the in-game abilities of the user, although Asuna does not suspect that this is the source of Yuuki's amazing skills. The user can communicate with the outside through the speakers installed in the Medicuboid. During speech the screen on the machine will display the message "user talking."

She has the ability to do more but at a cost of her body :(. Was never expecting some advanced technology like that.
Dec 6, 2014 11:19 AM

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Can't help but laugh at how weird asuna's life is. She has a AI "daughter," ex-fiance trapped her in a game, now for some reason she has this emotional attachment to a terminally ill patient who has spent 3yrs in full dive.... And her mom thinks she's not prepared for college. I think she's done more in her years of high school than most in their life rofl.
Dec 6, 2014 11:20 AM
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Bomb2chest said:

She has the ability to do more but at a cost of her body :(. Was never expecting some advanced technology like that.


Umm, the technology does have a risk, but the reason why her body is practically dying is 100% because of the disease.
Dec 6, 2014 11:21 AM

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LastChapter said:
Bomb2chest said:
I'm guessing since she is in a full dive system her skills are amazing in VR. Is this because of the medical bed she is in ? Does it give full control over her body compared to the natural VR gear ?

From the wikia:

The Medicuboid has a stronger electromagnetic output than both the NerveGear and the AmuSphere so it can make muscles completely numb and cancel out the spinal reflexes - making it possible to avoid using anesthetics which still have a small but rare risk. It has many more pulse generated components than the NerveGear and its CPU far surpasses the processing speed of the AmuSphere. These superior specs can enhance the in-game abilities of the user, although Asuna does not suspect that this is the source of Yuuki's amazing skills. The user can communicate with the outside through the speakers installed in the Medicuboid. During speech the screen on the machine will display the message "user talking."


Or to go via tl;dr:
THe gameplay improvement via medicuboid is miniscule and its less about gear itself and more about the time and practice Yuuki spent in VR, that is to thank for her talent.
Dec 6, 2014 11:21 AM
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Dec 6, 2014 11:24 AM

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Why is everyone rating this so highly?
I just don't understand why it's so dramatic, they just start crying and i'm like... ok... what the fuck is with this pathetic and rushed build up? The arc felt super rushed unlike the first part of SAO 2 which was complete crap because it took too long.

The season isn't good, I actually enjoyed the excalibur arc the most. Although I shrieked in total amusement when kirito did that peace sign when that one door was closing.
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Dec 6, 2014 11:30 AM
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The season isn't good, I actually enjoyed the excalibur arc the most.


Aha...
Dec 6, 2014 11:31 AM

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Why is everyone rating this so highly?
I just don't understand why it's so dramatic, they just start crying and i'm like... ok... what the fuck is with this pathetic and rushed build up? The arc felt super rushed unlike the first part of SAO 2 which was complete crap because it took too long.

The season isn't good, I actually enjoyed the excalibur arc the most. Although I shrieked in total amusement when kirito did that peace sign when that one door was closing.

wait are you being serious? kinda feels like a troll, not the fact u think its bad but u rlly thought calibur was best? To me, all calibur was was the enemy standing in place while the main cast wails on them for several minutes. Kinda dull.. enemies bare fought back
Dec 6, 2014 11:42 AM
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I don't know what to think about Asuna. The doctor says 3 times the word "terminal" (talking about Yuuki disease) and she understand at the third time.

What a sad episode!


it's called denial
Dec 6, 2014 11:48 AM
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pathetic.
I find it funny how a cheap and forced episode like this gets praised.
But yeah simple minded people get FEELS from it and cry.
Imo this episode was boring and tried very hard.


Pathetic, boring, tried very hard, I guess I can see that as a view. But no need to act condescending on people who think differently. It's like me saying "yeah, psychopaths won't get the FEELS".
Dec 6, 2014 11:49 AM

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This episode gave me aids.
Dec 6, 2014 11:55 AM
*hug noises*

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people like to say this show is cancer
guess the joke's on them, the correct answer was aids all along!


in all seriousness I keep finding myself conflicted about whether I like this or not..
Dec 6, 2014 11:57 AM

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Poor Yuuki :(

I imagine the next two episodes are going to be full of feels
Dec 6, 2014 12:10 PM

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This show is more of a guilty pleasure than anything, so it's nice when an episode/arc like this comes along and there's clearly more thought put into it than most of the previous ones. Now I get the reasoning behind calling the guild Sleeping Knights, and it's actually kind of sad compared to all the "sad" stuff that's happened in SAO before. Now I just need to catch up on the LNs...
Dec 6, 2014 12:12 PM
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I feel like they needed more character exposition for me to feel for their relationship in this episode.

I´m guessing they´ll use the thing Kirito build for Yui so that Yuuki can expirience school life.
Dec 6, 2014 12:13 PM

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that was depressing... I feel like there were some parts where it got cliché, which made it lose some of the feeling. I liked that twist though. I was expecting it to be some stupid reason for not being able to see Asuna anymore, so that was a nice surprise in a depressing way.
Dec 6, 2014 12:14 PM

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Chelizzle said:
pathetic.
I find it funny how a cheap and forced episode like this gets praised.
But yeah simple minded people get FEELS from it and cry.
Imo this episode was boring and tried very hard.


Troll harder Please.

As for the episode itself, it was adapted perfectly from how I remember it from the light novel. I find myself wishing all this ended differently...but you can't beat something like Aids :( Poor Yuuki
Dec 6, 2014 12:17 PM
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Can people start rating this season up now. It's ridiculous how low it is compared to S1 even though it's way better <_<


blahblahnotenoughactionblahblah.
blahblahnodeathgameblahblah
blahblahnokiritoblahblah
blahblatoomuchdramablahblah

Typical secondary complaints are the reason why its so low.


I really hope they fuck off when SAO III comes out.
Dec 6, 2014 12:27 PM

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Oh damn tragic shit my duds.
Dec 6, 2014 12:32 PM

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I knew it would be Aids somehow when Asuna got to the hospital. Who wants to bet Kirito puts his little camera system he has for Yui to some good use?
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Dec 6, 2014 12:43 PM
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I don't know what to think about Asuna. The doctor says 3 times the word "terminal" (talking about Yuuki disease) and she understand at the third time.

What a sad episode!


it's called denial

It's called not speaking English. As already said in a comment before the first times the word used was Terminal care, in english. And it seems to exceed Asuna's limited english vocabulary xD
Dec 6, 2014 12:44 PM

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I was trying not to cry throughout the whole episode. x___x
Dec 6, 2014 12:51 PM
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I know this entire episode is sad and all, but it feels a bit... expected? All I saw in forums were the "Gotta prepare for all them feels." And so... I don't really get any feels, some yes, but mostly little effect. I guess it makes me a bad person when I don't feel anything and think, most of the Sleeping Knights probably are going to die aren't?
Dec 6, 2014 12:52 PM
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Wait a moment, how could Asuna possible know Yuki's age when she went to see her at the hospital?

The doctor told her when she was born.

The doctor met her after she asked.

Asuna went by the appearance of Yuuki's ALO avatar, that's why she was unsure.
Dec 6, 2014 1:00 PM
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The doctor met her after she asked.

Asuna went by the appearance of Yuuki's ALO avatar, that's why she was unsure.

I recall him mentioning she was born in 2011.
Or was that not in the episode after all and I'm already confusing the LN and anime?


>6 minute mark she asks the receptionist she's looking for someone around the age of 15.
>10:25 doctor tells Asuna she was born May 2011
Dec 6, 2014 1:04 PM
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I'm not a big fan of SAO or SAO2, but I was really liking this arc until this episode.

To be honest, I didn't like the AIDS thing. To be honest, this show has a bad track record of tackling important issues, and this show does not have the talent to tackle something like this. And I like Yuuki, and it sucks that they're using her for this.

I think the reveal that she's terminal is to get false sympathy from the audience, making them go "aww, poor baby" and get on her side. It's a cheat by the writer so he doesn't have to write an actual reason for people to like her.

I will admit, I do admire Asuna's reaction to it all. People with illnesses needs that person who will stay with them until the end.

I just wish that the show didn't do this, and I feel it's just going to be a terrible ending. And that's sad, because this has been my favorite arc in the series, and that includes Anicard.
Dec 6, 2014 1:06 PM
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I was ready for the feels, seriously, i was ready... i totally did not cry...

i totally did not... ; ________________ ;

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Dec 6, 2014 1:07 PM
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It's a cheat by the writer so he doesn't have to write an actual reason for people to like her


I'm assuming you haven't read the novels judging from your response. Don't blame the writer for not being able to properly portray the anime series, blame the director or studio. With all of your complaints, I find that you'll definitely enjoy reading it much more because it has what you are complaining the anime has the lack of.
Dec 6, 2014 1:09 PM

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Sad very sad tears this entire episode.........
Dec 6, 2014 1:12 PM
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LastChapter said:
tummer said:
It's a cheat by the writer so he doesn't have to write an actual reason for people to like her


I'm assuming you haven't read the novels judging from your response. Don't blame the writer for not being able to properly portray the anime series, blame the director or studio. With all of your complaints, I find that you'll definitely enjoy reading it much more because it has what you are complaining the anime has the lack of.


No, I have not read the novels. I used "writer" as an overall word (basically whoever is writing/telling the story, which could be the script writer, director, planner, etc). And the novels aren't that high on my list of "books I want to read", mostly because the series hasn't hooked me into wanting to dig further into what it is.
Dec 6, 2014 1:13 PM
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Unfortunately for me, someone spoiled this for me a couple of weeks ago (so many LN readers cannot help themselves in these forums) so the impact was lessened, but now it's all clear. A guild of only terminal patients. I hope Yuuki gets to experience school with the machine Kirito is developing.
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Dec 6, 2014 1:29 PM
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Mah feels hurt.


IKR.....but I think I know how she's going to go to school......
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Dec 6, 2014 1:35 PM

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sympathy felt for new characters: zero. k. stop trying.
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