Aldnoah.Zero Episode 11 Discussion

chickenonthepan said:

I don't really agree with you guys on this point.

In my opinion, Inaho is partly expressing Asseylum's will. She wants to be used. She is ready for that when she suggest him taking her to the castle.

Their idea is pretty much the same there. So it's no problem that Inaho talks like that with the communication on. Actually that's the only way they can win.

And that's why she choose to talk to Inaho, not other people. She knows that he will not hesitate.

Why she was hiding that before? Because she was naive and thought that her message will end the war, no need to fight any more. And the fact is that they never meet an obital castle on their way before, right?

I know that the writing is bad but you guys should give the credit for the reasonable part. :P

Keten said:

As you said, the writing is bad. My issue isn't so much the general idea of what he is saying, my issue was how it was written. They wrote it as though he was basically just calling her a weapon to be used, "Well she's no use to us as she is, so might as well try to get SOME use out of her" is basically what he said. Pretty dickish thing to say to be honest. They made it seem like he gives absolutely no fucks about her life. It didn't bother me much but I can understand if it bothers others. I didn't completely hate this episode either, I actually kind of enjoyed it for what it was.

novian14 said:
soo the final war?

why doesn't slaine use cruhteo kat?

will we see inahoxslaine combi again?

and hime, what happened to her kat? she wanted to jump but saazbaum attack deucalion, and then what happened to hime?



it's too bad, it just aired by 12 episode and next week is the last one, hope it will get it's second season, or a movie? well that doesn't matter, at least just (predict) tearing saazbaum and the war ends and seylum back to mars, it's not enough for a good series like this, hope the finale will be (at least) somewhat shocking and unpredictable!

chickenonthepan said:
I don't really agree with you guys on this point.

In my opinion, Inaho is partly expressing Asseylum's will. She wants to be used. She is ready for that when she suggest him taking her to the castle.

Keten said:
As you said, the writing is bad. My issue isn't so much the general idea of what he is saying, my issue was how it was written. They wrote it as though he was basically just calling her a weapon to be used, "Well she's no use to us as she is, so might as well try to get SOME use out of her" is basically what he said. Pretty dickish thing to say to be honest. They made it seem like he gives absolutely no fucks about her life. It didn't bother me much(mostly because I am used to it from this show) but I can understand if it bothers others. I didn't completely hate this episode either, I actually kind of enjoyed it for what it was.

Darklight0303 said:
Slaine doesn't have ALdnoah. Kinda can't use a Martian Kat without that REMEMBER?

Darklight0303 said:



Slaine doesn't have ALdnoah. Kinda can't use a Martian Kat without that REMEMBER?

chickenonthepan said:
This make me think that the whole point of showing Slaine that kat is that when Inaho and Asseylum found it in the castle, views won't go like: "wtf, why is it here?". :P

nirunaru said:
Guess my criticism slipped a bit.... They got me in this episode.... Because... omg. It got explosions and missiles!!!!!! ;)

deadoptimist said:

Convoluted plot-devices, convoluted plot-devices everywhere!

Do you think we'll see the scene with Saazbaum stupidly shooting Slaine's handcuffs off for the third time next week?

Fai said:
I will give this trainwreck 10 out of 10 if this suddenly turns into Aquarion EVOL and they power it through sex.

LambdaDeltaGamma said:
This is might be nitpicky, but isn't having Asseylum's Kataphrakt's code name be Princess 1 rather dumb? The Martians could have intercepted their radio chatter, figured out their plan and known which Kataphrakt was hers. There's no reason why the Martians couldn't have done that right or am I missing something? Even if there was zero possibility of this, as far as the Terrans were concerned, there's still the possibility of traitors/spies amongst them. The rest of the code names were Mustang 11-44, so why not just have Asseylum's be Mustang 55? Or anything other than 'Princess 1' really just to be on the safe side?

chickenonthepan said:
But you know what I scare the most next episode? Slaine flying back to the castle to complete his meaningless circle. lmao.

I really hope he will stay in that base, meet Rayet and help her take out the drones.

nirunaru said:


Or maybe they were actually baiting Saazbaum. :D

deadoptimist said:


As of now Slaine doesn't have place in the show and he is sorely failing behind everyone. Like, for example, his question "The ship from the island?", while everyone else knows its name and, roughly, its story. So I can't even say if I want to see him working with Rayet. There're too many things that need to be resolves without new relationships. Also I dunno, what Slaine can even do.
Maybe they shouldn't have shown him at all in this episode. They could've shown, that he went to look at the battle, in form of a flashback, when he is really needed.

I think, that they can't pull off multiple plotlines after all.

deadoptimist said:
Oh, this many comments already. Sorry for being late - I overslept (seriously ><).
I think, I'll write my impressions at first and then go into earlier comments.

In my opinion, the batttle was mostly unsatisfactory. When they started to explain the Inaho's plan, they lost me alltogether, because my logic centre couldn't process it and failed. Either I'm too stupid, or there wasn't any logic at all.
The writing is in a pitiful state, as usual.

Did they really need to show us half of the previous episode at the beginning?

Lol'd at the amount of sandwiched the kids did.

I wonder, why the earth forces didn't try to use some tactics besides "stand still while shooting-die-be avenged by Inaho" on their own territory (like, why martian infantry does whatever it wants?) Can't the writers let the adult trained militarymen save face by doing at least something heroic before dying?

Some missiles the castle has. I understand that they have the alien power source technology, but now also ground-underground missiles? Actually it's being bugging me for a while now - it is unclear, to what extent Vers uses alien technology and what it borrows from the Earth tech. Why did they become superior in everything in such a short period of time?

Saazbauim enjoying the fight ia a treat to watch. Can we remove all the schoolchildren from this anime and focus on the adults more, please? Like the pilots, that joked with Inko and the princess. Or lieutenant Marito?
Though among the kids Asseylum shines in this episode. Her development is most welcome.

I'm interested, whether Slaine can't or won't use Tharsis. And what was the point of showing it...? Oh, wait, so Inaho will, probably, get it. But then again what was the point of showing it with Slaine?
Dunno why Slaine abandons his plane and starts to run around the battlefield on foot.

Inaho's dialogue with the princess is written badly. I mean, can't she get to the point right from the start? Don't they want to hit her, because she hid this most important info? Why does Yuki protest, if there is no other alternative and they are being slaughtered? Why does Inaho feel the need to show his savantism, while keeping the link with Asseylum open?

It's a pity that Rayet will sacrifice herself for the sake of the princess. Eddelrittuo too - she was annoying, but the comic relief that she provided will be missed.

Saazbaum attacking in only one kat is nsulting for the UE. Can't they take down the sky carriers at least?
Inaho's plan... Sigh. I don't even know where to start. The stuffed fake kats got to me too much. And with the amount of missiles, that a whole martian castle has, all of them should be annihilated with ease. A whole castle of martians seems like kind of a problem too.
Though Deucalion ramming into the castle was nice.

On the bright side: I love this guy's stoic expression. XD And he knew about anime.He is like: "Commander, plz. This is japanese cartoons, so we are all gonna die, can u stop shouting". (Great "panicking officer" voice from his neighbor too ><)

ex_necross said:
You are the most annoying person on this site. Jesus Christ. Every week this bullshit.

chickenonthepan said:
I think that their meeting is the best, for both of them.

It gives Slaine something to do rather than flying in circle...

And Rayet is alone now, she need a fighting partner. That drone is no easy feat. It will be an asspull if Rayet can solo it herself.

In more dramatic context, they are both people that feel lost and feel that there is no place they are belong to. They are similar yet have different attitude. Their new relationship maybe interesting if the writer know how to get the most out of it. Though I better don't put too much hope. :P

ex_necross said:
You are the most annoying person on this site. Jesus Christ. Every week this bullshit.

nirunaru said:

Hey dude, what's with the attitude? We don't all like the same things. Deadoptimist got a point there. If you don't agree, that is fine, but just leave the unnecessary comments out of it.

deadoptimist said:
Also Slaine doesn't go beyond his love to princess, he is an inflexible character.

But other than that I don't see the point of them working together for the plot. I suspect that you want them to become the leaders of Earth side, but the Earth's side doesn't have anything going for it besides Inaho, and Slaine was not given nor power, nor special talents.

ex_necross said:

It's just the same old drivel every time. It's like she's trying to fill some void in her life.

minouneetzoe said:
OH GOD WHY DIDN'T THEY CENSORED THE DRIVING SCENE, THAT WAS UNDERAGE DRIVING!!

ex_necross said:
It's just the same old drivel every time. It's like she's trying to fill some void in her life.

chickenonthepan said:
This is why I want him to start a new interesting relationship. He should get over it already.

chickenonthepan said:
But is there a better option for him?

chickenonthepan said:


I think that their meeting is the best, for both of them.

It gives Slaine something to do rather than flying in circle...

And Rayet is alone now, she need a fighting partner. That drone is no easy feat. It will be an asspull if Rayet can solo it herself.

In more dramatic context, they are both people that feel lost and feel that there is no place they are belong to. They are similar yet have different attitude. Their new relationship maybe interesting if the writer know how to get the most out of it. Though I better don't put too much hope. :P

alchem1485 said:
Slain proved Incompetent this episode ( As if he competent in beginning). Man, he must clear his stance now, Earth or Vers. Do something for Hime sake, just stop it already. And with most his fanboy so goddamn annoying make he more and more an eyesore in the show. Kill him now or better give him some clear development!!
And Rayet, why did she can drive a kat, since she were a prisoner? Oh yeah, it is anime after all, with something irrational usually happen

EarlAlois said:
Mixed feeling about this episode.
It didn't feel satisfying, too much action, not enough plot...

Slaine was running like an headless chicken.
He should have just taken the damn Thesis!
Like nothing made sense in this episode.
Feels like they don't stop doing bad choices.
Deucalion ramming in the landing castle was pretty amusing to see.
But, can't they stop with these bad cliffhangers!
JESUS!

Darklight0303 said:


He couldn't Take Tharsis since HE DOES NOT HAVE A FUCKING ALDNOAH DRIVE.

EarlAlois said:
Mixed feeling about this episode.
It didn't feel satisfying, too much action, not enough plot...

Slaine was running like an headless chicken.
He should have just taken the damn Thesis!
Like nothing made sense in this episode.
Feels like they don't stop doing bad choices.
Deucalion ramming in the landing castle was pretty amusing to see.
But, can't they stop with these bad cliffhangers!
JESUS!

EarlAlois said:


He could have asked Saazbaum to activate it, no?
Or he could have just waited in the castle:
Like- Wait and see what happen's?

Instead of running around wild and always showing up late at the party =|
If he hadn't moved out the castle, he'd be there when the princess would have crashed with Deucalion.

Just Sayin'

Holmes15 said:
Inaho had that "things didn't actually go according plan" face on at the end. Could somebody also explain why that little girl's could drive that Humvee?