Kill la Kill Episode 13 Discussion

Redmyr said:
Poor Senketsu :(
I think that the small piece of Senketsu in Ryuko's hand is the most important part of the Kamui.
Am I the only one who has see this ?
http://oi40.tinypic.com/6gabef.jpg
I want the same phone xD

Barion-Zara said:


But damn!! I need the OST when Satsuki's mom appears!!! >.< So EPIC!!

SlushyCoffee said:
DON'T CLICK if you are scared of spoilers~~~

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Am I right?

BatStark said:

Satsuki's mother is very coo

Akanezora said:
You know what? I'm glad Ryuuko lost Senketsu, this way she has more chances to improve herself. NOW, things are getting interesting, and I can't even predict what might happen. The only thing I know for sure is that Ryuuko will have to go through trials in order to retake Senketsu, which is a good thing.

iPumpking said:

Same here. I think that Senketsu's death will have the same meaning as Kamina's death had to Simon.
PS: Sorry for my bad english.

PrimeX said:
that woman who said clothing is a sin.... I thought she will show up naked.. damn..

KLK bringing meaning to clothing in a whole new level!!

Eudaimonia said:
Oh, how I have missed you, KLK! And what a way to start the second cours: Blitzkrieg á la Kiryuuin style, the first step towards world domination all under the keen observation of her mother who herself has established her own empire with her monopoly on clothing. Right now she's still amused upon following her daughter's aspirations but will that last when she eventually gets dethroned by her own offspring?

Also good to see Trigger following up their clothing analogy to the end.
Once again the concept of shame pops up in regard to clothing, however, this time around it's about clothing as a mean to cover up shame opposed to shame caused by clothing. Ragyou' logic twists clothing as status symbol which has been presented to us until now to one that epitomizes sin and as Satsuki points out depicts a measure to connect the world (in her own favour, of course...). Logically that constitutes a world that is in its entirety hold together by the concept of sin. Going with the biblical original sin metaphor, the interpretation of the usage of clothes as result of humanity's achievment of free will fits awefully well with Satsuki's mindset: Only those who act under their own volition are deemed worthy by her to wear the most prestigious Life-fiber uniforms.


While Nui's disguise really caught me off-guard I'm almost a bit disappointed to see the seemingly new addition to the cast getting discarded so quickly. It would have been really interesting to see upright and idealistic Shinjiro Nagita ( a shout-out to the Japanese student movement during the 1960s?) as the initiator of a new opposing force against the fascistic nature of Honnouji Academy, this time organized by the students themselves.

Triper said:


OST for that scene is called Blumenkranz

http://audiour.com/ef4ugpst

It is by far my favorite track. So epic.

DawnJ said:
If you can stand Engrish, Geruman shouldn't be a problem as well.

sentience said:
Speaking on the subject of Blumenkranz...I really wish someone with "correct" or native pronounciation of German do a cover of it. I also hope to hear a set of "misheard lyrics" as well based on the original pronouciation...

AnimageNeby said:


Well said.

I liked this particular episode much for the same reasons you pointed out. The clothing (analogy to militarism/facism and in general stringent, ruthless social control) theme was superbly rekindled and continued, with RECOVS/COVERS been put as a diametrically opposite against the Nudist beach (/rebels/freedomfighters).

I also liked the link with the clothing as the first thing which was done after eating the apple; the result of the primordial sin, thus. The 'fig to cover nakedness'.

After which Ragyo groped her daughter (to 'feel the cloth') in a way which was, to say the least, slightly suggestive of a sin as well, it being rather incestuous-esque. And Satsuki remaining all stoic under it and very formally says "Thank you, mother." Great scene, that.

Furthermore, I think it's now clearly alluded that Satsuki is not the typical antagonist, and certainly a not one-sided one. The fact that she left Ryuko a piece of her suit (the eyelap?) and covered her up with a blanket, shows at least *some* passing empathy. Her ultimate goal remains a mystery, even though her immediate goals and mindset seems clear: to conquer all the academies (and in general, to conquer the world)...but to what end? Satsuki is clearly extra-ordinary strong-willed, with a clear goal in mind, but that goal is unlikely to be merely the winning of the three city school battle. That more seems a means to an end, just like the fighting against the elite four was not really to take down Ryuko (at least, not for Satsuki), but to gather info to make her suits stronger.

So, is there a goal beyond the rather obvious ones that is directly shown as yet? I think we already saw a foreshadowing when mother and daughter met in this episode. One particular scene, shows two brimming lights in opposition to eachother in that tower. It gave more the impression of a confrontation than a union of forces, to be honest. And while the mother currently is still more endowed in 'brilliance' and has more power, and she 'allows' her daughter her whims and is indulgent towards her and finds her daughters antics amusing as of yet, as long as she remains loyal to COVERS... one can not but wonder if she will still be as amused when the confrontation between the two will become apparent.

Because I think this is what some of those scenes already indicate or suggest; that sooner or later, a showdown between mother and daughter will occur, where Satsuki will try to overthrow or at least refuses to be obedient anymore, even to her mother, and will carve out her own future and mould the world in HER image. As any queen/empress/absolute monarch, it could well be the mother is going to be dethroned by her offspring. I doubt she will still find that as amusing. ;-)

The radiance of both in that tower certainly seems an omen for what is to come. And "There cannot be two suns in the heavens", as the Khan already said 800 years ago.