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Dec 1, 2013 4:07 AM
#51
Dec 1, 2013 8:51 AM
#52
Beaver897 said: Let's just say that not everyone really seem to understand Haruki's dilemma right now. They think it's as simple as 'Haruki doesn't really like Setsuna at all and is using her while he actually loves Touma.' Since this anime is also very subtle, I'm not surprised that not everyone can catch up on the little details being shown in this anime. They always just go gung-ho on the 'Oh, this is soooo very very much cliche!!1!' because they don't know what details they missed which actually backs every major moment up to actually be plausible. ^this people saying things that WA2 is cliche gives good drama a bad name :,> sure there are certain tropes and cliche feels but only a few animes can stir people with "real" feels and yeah "I have seen this. I have done (something similar to) this. You don't want this." |
Dec 1, 2013 8:51 AM
#53
ltspfan said: plot twist: it will be Setsuna x Touma end All my greatest effs are towards you. jk |
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Dec 1, 2013 8:56 AM
#54
The expected and long awaited drama is coming up now. It was pretty obvious that he would go to touma instead of setsuna. I think that Haruki doesn't know what he wants and that Setsuna is living in a dreamworld where the 3 of them always will be together. Touma knows what she wants but she also knows that she can't have it without hurting her best friend. Touma got the worst dilemma but is the only one that realizes it and came to a decision. |
Dec 1, 2013 9:03 AM
#55
Beaver897 said: pizza_012 said: I'm also just wondering why some are complaining despite the roughly smooth directing and pacing of the series. I'm really sad that these people are still complaining. Let's just say that not everyone really seem to understand Haruki's dilemma right now. They think it's as simple as 'Haruki doesn't really like Setsuna at all and is using her while he actually loves Touma.' Since this anime is also very subtle, I'm not surprised that not everyone can catch up on the little details being shown in this anime. They always just go gung-ho on the 'Oh, this is soooo very very much cliche!!1!' because they don't know what details they missed which actually backs every major moment up to actually be plausible. Well that's basically exactly what he's doing. I'm not sure why you think it's any other way. |
Dec 1, 2013 9:31 AM
#56
Haruki is such an indecisive guy that is starting to annoying me! If he still hasn´t move on from his feelings for Kazusa he shouldn´t have started dating Setsuna (who is a sweetheart btw). Its unfair to both girls how he is always giving mixing sinals. Well lets get ready for more drama!!! |
Dec 1, 2013 9:38 AM
#57
In the end, it's all about "A love that should not have happened and a love that was too late." |
Dec 1, 2013 10:06 AM
#58
kaimax said: As always blame the male, where it was all Touma's fault for "hiding her feelings" Causing Haruki to misunderstood her and accepting Setsuna's direct feelings. Oh, c'mon. It's not all her fault. Haruki was on first name basis with Setsuna. Haruki likened Setsuna to a "greatest flower" from her perspective In her mind, Touma had already lost. She DOESN'T know how much Haruki likes her. She could have guessed, but as you know the guy is constantly sending mixed signals. |
K_boardDec 1, 2013 10:23 AM
Dec 1, 2013 10:14 AM
#59
Damn.. I hate waiting weekly for this show. This episode was filled with drama. |
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Dec 1, 2013 11:45 AM
#60
Dec 1, 2013 12:47 PM
#61
Remember guys, if you doubt your feelings for a girl chances are you do not love her. |
Dec 1, 2013 12:50 PM
#62
KaitonPT said: Its unfair to both girls how he is always giving mixing sinals. Actually It's both Kazusa and Haruki who keeps sending signals to each other. It's not like he's indecisive because he wants to be indecisive, He answered yes to Setsuna's direct confession because he thinks Touma "rejected" him and Like a candle Haruki's love for Touma doesn't disappear immediately, but learning that Touma "has feelings" made him indecisive, and Touma not making clear what her true feelings is just fuels it more. K_board said: Oh, c'mon. It's not all her fault. Yeas, as I said earlier everyone is equally guilty. Well said by this guy Shinseiryuu said: All 3 of them are at fault: Touma for holding back because of her friendship with Setsuna Setsuna for trying to force her vision of the 3 of them being together Haruki for going along with the flow despite still loving Touma Its brilliant to see how the anime portrays all 3 characters and what they truly want. Setsuna is the one who will be hurt in the end... |
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Dec 1, 2013 1:02 PM
#63
kaimax said: KaitonPT said: K_board said: Oh, c'mon. It's not all her fault. Yeas, as I said earlier everyone is equally guilty. Well said by this guy Shinseiryuu said: All 3 of them are at fault: Touma for holding back because of her friendship with Setsuna Setsuna for trying to force her vision of the 3 of them being together Haruki for going along with the flow despite still loving Touma Its brilliant to see how the anime portrays all 3 characters and what they truly want. Setsuna is the one who will be hurt in the end... I wouldn't hold Touma equally responsible as the other two. Touma is known to be socially inept, it's her character trait. Actively confessing to Haruki isnt easy for her. Especially when she knows that her best friend also loves him. She also tried to leave without causing anyone pain because, unlike Setsuna, she is actually aware of the reality of the situation. |
Dec 1, 2013 1:19 PM
#64
swn32 said: I wouldn't hold Touma equally responsible as the other two. Touma is known to be socially inept, it's her character trait. Actively confessing to Haruki isnt easy for her. She's still guilty, don't need to downplay it. And she's not as socially inept as you think. |
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Dec 1, 2013 1:34 PM
#65
kaimax said: She's still guilty, don't need to downplay it. And she's not as socially inept as you think. I didn't say she wasn't. I only said that she is not as guilty as the other two. One of whom has a delusional plan and the other who falls for it. |
Dec 1, 2013 2:21 PM
#66
kaimax said: hyperknees91 said: And from this point forward, Haruki shows he's the most eternal lame protagonist in visual novel history. Nope it's still Makoto Ito and Takayuki Narumi. eminagnam said: I had rooted for Kazusa x Haruki before, but now I changed my mind. He is too dumb for her. For once can people actually blame the females for being too indirect with the male protagonist? Thank you. Im glad someone understands. Being indecisive doesnt make haruki a lame or dumb protagonist. It makes him human. |
Dec 1, 2013 2:29 PM
#67
This episode was fuckin nuts. Im about to watch it again. The foreshadowing in this series is awesome. I cant even imagine how sick the vn is. I think it's so romantic how haruki and touma are mirroring each other in place of their absence in each others lives. Haruki is drinking the super sweet coffee even though its gross and the next shot we see touma eating the healthy food he left her. also when haruki catches touma staring at him and answers "what?!" references the same reaction from touma when she caught him staring the first time they were at setsunas pad. Theyre pretty much perfect for each other :') |
Dec 1, 2013 2:47 PM
#68
Thank you. Im glad someone understands. Being indecisive doesnt make haruki a lame or dumb protagonist. It makes him human. Haruki being indecisive is not the reason I call him one of the lamest protagonist's. It's just the start of the reason (though of course I won't spoil). Actually this is one of the times when I can somewhat sympathize with the guy. I can tolerate characters acting human (as I'm one of the people who like Shinji Ikari as a protagonist), but Haruki like Makoto and Takayuki, takes things wayyyyy too far in the negativity department. I didn't say she wasn't. I only said that she is not as guilty as the other two. One of whom has a delusional plan and the other who falls for it. She's handling this in a pretty immature fashion regardless so she's certainly not helping the situation. |
Dec 1, 2013 2:52 PM
#69
Dec 1, 2013 3:18 PM
#70
anyone know the piano piece touma played? would be interested to hear the full piece if it exists |
Dec 1, 2013 3:26 PM
#71
Nobody noticed or mentioned that Setsuna's birthday is also Valentine's Day? |
Dec 1, 2013 5:05 PM
#72
hyperknees91 said: And from this point forward, Haruki shows he's the most eternal lame protagonist in visual novel history. I had a fairly good impression of him until this episode... I hope he doesn't fall into that territory though. |
Dec 1, 2013 5:07 PM
#73
So yeah everyone is guilty. Setsuna knew of her friends feelings and made the first move to try and lock him up and still makes moves in front of her friend that likes him. He is indecisive and still doubting while with Setsuna. Though both are confusing him. Touma ignoring him is just making him worse. She needs to settle things. Plus her denying her feelings only fueled things. Gonna end up feeling bad for a couple of them. |
Dec 1, 2013 8:40 PM
#74
mystik said: So yeah everyone is guilty. Setsuna knew of her friends feelings and made the first move to try and lock him up and still makes moves in front of her friend that likes him. He is indecisive and still doubting while with Setsuna. Though both are confusing him. Touma ignoring him is just making him worse. She needs to settle things. Plus her denying her feelings only fueled things. Gonna end up feeling bad for a couple of them. I fail to see how Touma is wrong. She is settling things, she gave up on them and took a plane to somewhere. What good would admitting her feelings to Kitahara do, when he's in a relationship with Setsuna already? The ones who are wrong are Setsuna and Kitahara. They are lovers, and yet they want to be with Touma, only to annoy her or something? And yes there's lots of foreshadowing, this screenshot is from episode 8: http://i.imgur.com/2vzbXYk.jpg I knew it was going in this direction when I saw this. |
Dec 1, 2013 10:30 PM
#75
kaimax said: KaitonPT said: Its unfair to both girls how he is always giving mixing sinals. Actually It's both Kazusa and Haruki who keeps sending signals to each other. It's not like he's indecisive because he wants to be indecisive, He answered yes to Setsuna's direct confession because he thinks Touma "rejected" him and Like a candle Haruki's love for Touma doesn't disappear immediately, but learning that Touma "has feelings" made him indecisive, and Touma not making clear what her true feelings is just fuels it more. K_board said: Oh, c'mon. It's not all her fault. Yeas, as I said earlier everyone is equally guilty. Well said by this guy Shinseiryuu said: All 3 of them are at fault: Touma for holding back because of her friendship with Setsuna Setsuna for trying to force her vision of the 3 of them being together Haruki for going along with the flow despite still loving Touma Its brilliant to see how the anime portrays all 3 characters and what they truly want. Setsuna is the one who will be hurt in the end... kaimax said: swn32 said: I wouldn't hold Touma equally responsible as the other two. Touma is known to be socially inept, it's her character trait. Actively confessing to Haruki isnt easy for her. She's still guilty, don't need to downplay it. And she's not as socially inept as you think. Well, stop putting word (guilty) in other people's mouth. How about I say no one is guilty? I think most of the people who watches anime knows that misunderstanding is what makes drama. This story has enough misunderstandings that make a great drama. So is there any character in the story guilty because of him/her having misunderstandings and acting on it? AND the characters don't see the whole story as the audiences do, so learn to be in their shoes for a bit. |
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Dec 1, 2013 10:33 PM
#76
God, I just hate Haruki's guts. Friendzoning Touma, showing up all deredere with Setsuna, what an ass-wipe he is. This is what I signed up for when I decide to watch the indirect sequel to White Album. He's turning out like Makoto Itou and I hate guys like that. He even said "I just want to make sure. That you're the only one for me." Why would you say that to a girl your with? He should've said, "I wanna have a taste of everything before choosing my main course." WTF?! That felt like Makoto saying "I'm bored being with Kotonoha." It just got on my nerves. Next thing on his mind is boning Setsuna, then searching for Touma after boning this hot milf. |
Dec 1, 2013 10:52 PM
#77
Ruriair said: I fail to see how Touma is wrong. She is settling things, she gave up on them and took a plane to somewhere. What good would admitting her feelings to Kitahara do, when he's in a relationship with Setsuna already? The ones who are wrong are Setsuna and Kitahara. They are lovers, and yet they want to be with Touma, only to annoy her or something? And yes there's lots of foreshadowing, this screenshot is from episode 8: http://i.imgur.com/2vzbXYk.jpg I knew it was going in this direction when I saw this. Gave up? More like running away from the problem. If she admitted her feelings from the start we won't see this kind of events happening. At least the cat is out of the bag early, and the three of them can talk it out. Right now, It's just getting worse for the three of them. By keeping it to herself: 1. She's hurting herself 2. Confusing Haruki with mixed signals even though he's already dating Setsuna 3. She'll hurt Setsuna in the future, ruining their friendship. Annoy her? lol Before they stand as lovers, both Setsuna and Haruki are her friends, and in the case of Setsuna, she doesn't want Kazusa to drift away just because she's dating Haruki. If she doesn't want that, why keep it to herself. In Episode 8 She clearly lied to Setsuna that "she's okay" with their relationship while Setsuna already confronted Kazusa's true feelings, confirming many times about it and apologized to her, but she just brushed it off acting like Setsuna is just jumping into conclusions, misunderstanding Kazusa's Feelings and she herself said that they'll still be friends. This is why Setsuna tries to keep them together, "falsely" knowing that Kazusa's okay with it when it actually really bothers her. jindo90 said: I think most of the people who watches anime knows that misunderstanding is what makes drama. I think that's not true, seeing that there are still people blaming Haruki for simply being the male protagonist, while the one causing the misunderstanding was Kazusa all along. FYI, she already lied to Setsuna. jindo90 said: This story has enough misunderstandings that make a great drama. So is there any character in the story guilty because of him/her having misunderstandings and acting on it?. Lol why are you making me sound like I hate this. In fact I love this so much, I bought the Limited Edition of the Ps3 game, have 2 signed illustrations by Nakamura Takeshi and a big poster of Setsuna (I can't get Kazusa's at that time). I'm just responding to people "who" solely blames Haruki for this "misunderstanding". |
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Dec 1, 2013 11:43 PM
#78
kaimax said: Gave up? More like running away from the problem. If she admitted her feelings from the start we won't see this kind of events happening. At least the cat is out of the bag early, and the three of them can talk it out. Talking it out solves no problems. The three of them simply cannot be together without atleast one of them getting hurt. Kazusa only decides to leave so as the other two can be happy. She didn't expect Haruki to flip out as he did. kaimax said: Right now, It's just getting worse for the three of them. By keeping it to herself: 1. She's hurting herself 2. Confusing Haruki with mixed signals even though he's already dating Setsuna 3. She'll hurt Setsuna in the future, ruining their friendship. She has only been pushing Haruki away ever since he started dating Setsuna. I don't get what mixed signals you are talking about. kaimax said: If she doesn't want that, why keep it to herself. In Episode 8 She clearly lied to Setsuna that "she's okay" with their relationship while Setsuna already confronted Kazusa's true feelings, confirming many times about it and apologized to her, but she just brushed it off acting like Setsuna is just jumping into conclusions, misunderstanding Kazusa's Feelings and she herself said that they'll still be friends. This is why Setsuna tries to keep them together, "falsely" knowing that Kazusa's okay with it when it actually really bothers her. What else would she do really? Confront her for stealing away her love? It would only make things more awkward between them. Like I said earlier, talking it out wouldn't make the situation any better. Also it's not that Setsuna believes that Kazusa is okay with it. It's rather something she wants to believe and she is trying to convince herself. kaimax said: I think that's not true, seeing that there are still people blaming Haruki for simply being the male protagonist, while the one causing the misunderstanding was Kazusa all along. FYI, she already lied to Setsuna. And Setsuna has been lying all along about various things. She wouldn't care to have the three of them together if it were Kazusa who was dating Haruki. It's shown in Twinkle Snow. An-chuk said: He even said "I just want to make sure. That you're the only one for me." Why would you say that to a girl your with? He is within reason to say that. He was confessed to out of the blue and he accepted it. He didn't really have a chance to sort out his feelings. His fault was rather to accept the confession when he wasn't sure of his feelings. |
jackhammer32Dec 2, 2013 2:37 AM
Dec 1, 2013 11:58 PM
#79
i figured out the piano piece if anyone cares Beethoven, Sonata No. 26, in E Flat, Op. 81a, Pft. "Les Adieux", 2nd Movement |
Dec 2, 2013 9:58 AM
#80
But, damn, so much feeling in one episode... Seriously, I still don't know who will be chosen by Haruki since the damn playboy date Setsuna but still thinking about Kazuza. Just go for Kazuza damn it!!! I hope they animate the Closing Chapter and Coda too because this show is the best romance I've watched in recent years since Ano Hana. |
Dec 2, 2013 2:39 PM
#81
Ohmigod, this is a trainwreck of misunderstandings, lying to yourself and uncertainty. Someone's gonna get dumped in the end and it ain't gonna be pretty. Setsuna obviously. She has to give it up with the "let's all be together forever!" idea when she's the one who pushed their trio into a duo + third wheel. Mikenzb said: ltspfan said: plot twist: it will be Setsuna x Touma end LOL Don't jinx us. That might be interesting. |
Dec 2, 2013 5:19 PM
#82
Romedbaumann said: That was the worst French I've ever heard. haha at the end? i have actually thought the same thing, since im a french canadian, well i have understood same but its was pretty terrible |
Dec 2, 2013 7:29 PM
#83
Does anyone else have an eerie feeling? I love Touma(personally prefer her), but can the three really be together while 2 are dating? Also I feel as if Haruki's actions are foreshadowing trouble between him and setsuna. |
Dec 4, 2013 9:37 PM
#84
cleeezzz said: i figured out the piano piece if anyone cares Beethoven, Sonata No. 26, in E Flat, Op. 81a, Pft. "Les Adieux", 2nd Movement THANK YOU! |
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Dec 4, 2013 11:23 PM
#85
As for whose fault it is, here's my take (note that I've gone through IC /CC (multiple routes)/coda Setsuna TE plus most of the short stories. Spoilers. Touma isn't as much at fault as the other two, that I have to agree. Up to episode 9 here anyways. It's rather what she could have done to avoid the situation. Her one "fault" was kissing Haruki after the performance even though Setsuna had made it clear that she's in love with Haruki. She was actually questioned by Setsuna the day before, when Setsuna declared she's in love with Haruki, and asks if Touma is in love with anyone - with the assumption that Touma is in love with Haruki as well. However Touma repeatedly denied the fact even as Setsuna pleaded. Quoting from the short story "The Day Before the Festival - Two's 24 Hours." (which to my surprise is not translated to English yet...guess you'll have to take my word for it) (After the two have had a prolonged conversation in which Setsuna says she's in love with Haruki and asks Touma who she's in love with, using words that imply Touma is in love with Haruki as well. Touma denied repeatedly.) S: Ahhh I am so envious, why is it that Touma-san is so favored by him T: I am not favored, you are reading too much into it. S: If that's all you can say, I'll take him for my own? T: If you want to. S: Can I really? T: ...... S: Come on, faking to be asleep again? and while i can't say Setsuna was not at fault in some way, her side of the story in the After The Festival ~Setsuna's Thirty Minutes~ short story shows her motive. She was probably right in that if Touma and Haruki became a couple, Touma would feel guilty. She'd be hurt whenever Setsuna tries to be cheerful. And then Haruki would start distancing himself in order to preserve the precarious relationships. She'd be left alone again. In the end her love for Haruki and fear of being alone / her dream of having the three of them as friends, triumphed over the guilt of betraying Touma. I can't really blame her. Not after going through the entire thing to know how deep (and twisted, though in some what of a good way in this case) her love is. kaimax said: That Twinkle Snow spoiler. I have an entirely different view. 1. Note, this is a few years later. Setsuna has been watching Haruki and Touma for a while. It's been eating away at her - she still loves Haruki. 2. The Chinese translation has a slightly different take in wording. Starting with the "I'll go down in flames part". Here's what I am reading: ——所以,我決定賠上一切。 不論是你我之間的朋友關係,還是三人的關係,你都可以一刀兩斷。 我會從你面前消失的。 她知道,三人的關係即將崩壞。 她知道,大家都會越傷越深。 她也知道,大概自己才是最悲哀的人。 Translates into... ----So, I've decided to go all in. Whether its the friendship between you and me, or our three-man relationship, you can erase both. I can disappear forever. She knows the relationship between the three of them would collapse. She knows everyone will just get hurt deeper and deeper. She also knows, she's probably the most pathetic of them all... While I can't read Japanese, I am fairly confident that the Chinese translation is slightly more accurate (sorry English translator...) Perhaps someone with expertise can verify? http://mirror1.aquaplus.co.jp/leaf/TwinkleSnow.pdf page 142. If it really is according to the Chinese translation, then Setsuna isn't as heartless as you describe. While Setsuna does lie here and there in CC, she's fairly honest...especially when you compare her to Haruki. She is most definitely not lying about caring for Touma. She might be jelly and everything but she cares for Touma, just she cares about Haruki a little more sometimes. Also, the English translation for The Idol Who Forgot How To Sing seems to have the same problem where (I presume) a sentence that doesn't specify who the action belongs to sometimes gets mixed up, eg. English translation for one of the sentences was And Setsuna finally found the one thing that she hated the most about Haruki. She loved that even though she tried to hate him so much, she had pretty much destroyed it all. when in Chinese translation it is more along the lines of And Setsuna finally found the one thing that she hated the most about Haruki. She loved that even though he tried so hard making himself hate me, he had ruined all his efforts in the end." Which actually makes more sense imo. I wonder if anyone would mind taking a look and see if the English translation should be fixed? Also there's actually a fair amount of information in the explicit / adult part of this particular short story...Adds to the punch if nothing else. Makes her love for Haruki seem that much more extreme and desperate. Perhaps I'll be able to get to in a few weeks assuming they are ok with an indirect translation... |
PedotDec 5, 2013 12:34 AM
Dec 5, 2013 11:33 AM
#86
Dem feels in the end of the episode ;_; I still prefer Kazusa over Setsuna but I have the feeling that Setsuna is going to suffer alot in the next episodes and she not deserve it. D: Anyways, dat kiss. lol |
Dec 5, 2013 5:53 PM
#87
Its getting good *^* but seriously am i the only one who supports HarukuxTouma ): ? In my opinion Setsuna is the bad one here >.< considering how she confronted Touma about her feelings for Haruki ._. And Haruki him self is stupid he has feeligs for both of them..why did he choose her over Touma -_- ...should of waiting a little longer |
Dec 5, 2013 8:09 PM
#88
Foreverpwon said: - Haruki him self is stupid he has feeligs for both of them.. -why did he choose her over Touma -_- ...should of waiting a little longer It's not stupid, it's humanly realistic. His feelings isn't exclusive to just Kazusa, but like any other normal human being, he also has some feelings for other girls. If You can measure his feelings for the girls, Kazusa would be higher, but that doesn't mean his feelings for Setsuna is always at zero before the confession. Once again, it's simply because Setsuna "strikes first" while Kazusa just mopes around with her own problems. He accepted it because Kazusa never gave a clear feedback. And Setsuna confronting Kazusa is because she actually knows how Kazusa feels about Haruki, feeling guilty about it she talks about it to her. But Kazusa being Kazusa, just said "I'm okay with it" clearly being dishonest with her own feelings and outright lying to Setsuna. Any of this "won't happen" if Kazusa was more honest with herself, heck she can actually get Haruki first if she wasn't moping about her feelings. |
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Dec 5, 2013 8:56 PM
#90
Foreverpwon said: Its getting good *^* but seriously am i the only one who supports HarukuxTouma ): ? In my opinion Setsuna is the bad one here >.< considering how she confronted Touma about her feelings for Haruki ._. And Haruki him self is stupid he has feeligs for both of them..why did he choose her over Touma -_- ...should of waiting a little longer Not really. That's the majority opinion. According to polls and such. kaimax said: And Setsuna confronting Kazusa is because she actually knows how Kazusa feels about Haruki, feeling guilty about it she talks about it to her. But Kazusa being Kazusa, just said "I'm okay with it" clearly being dishonest with her own feelings and outright lying to Setsuna. Any of this "won't happen" if Kazusa was more honest with herself, heck she can actually get Haruki first if she wasn't moping about her feelings. Haruki hasn't been very honest with her either. He had told her that it was he who confessed to Setsuna, and not the other way around. Stuff like that is enough to make a person accept defeat and walk away, since it was just confirming her doubts that he loves Setsuna instead. You are putting too much unnecessary blame on Touma while most of it actually goes to the other two. Setsuna for confessing on an impulse and Haruki for being such an indecisive faggot about the whole thing. |
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Dec 5, 2013 9:23 PM
#91
swn32 said: You are putting too much unnecessary blame on Touma while most of it actually goes to the other two. And some other people has been calling names on Haruki like he's the only one to blame and putting Kazusa on the side like a Victim just because "she's doesn't have much to blame". I'm just doing it for the sake of balancing the blaming game. |
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Dec 6, 2013 3:14 AM
#92
I don't think we can blame Setsuna for confessing...that's kind of silly. We can blame her for being a little childish, but not for confessing. Anyway all 3 are at fault for different reasons, that should be pretty easy to see. It's not whose "more" at fault that's important at this point, because they are all creating a problem in their own way which could be solved if even one of them was a bit more mature. |
Dec 6, 2013 4:58 AM
#93
kaimax said: Once again, it's simply because Setsuna "strikes first" while Kazusa just mopes around with her own problems. He accepted it because Kazusa never gave a clear feedback. This is perhaps the most important part. 1) IIRC, Haruki mentions this. Twice. In the anime. Both times he says something along the lines of "How do I know what you feel if you don't show, if you always have that poker face?" The second time is in the same episode as performance, right after, in the classroom, before Haruki falls asleep. 2) EP 10 spoiler They are gonna do ~ The Snow Melts, And Until The Snow Falls ~ short story in EP 10 and 11. The short story is suppose to be unlocked after first play through of IC, but in this case it's not such a bad choice to do it here...Anyways...If you really want to get spoiled.. Kazusa has literally had half an year before Haruki even met Setsuna. Haruki was all she can think ever since summer, at the latest. She could have warmed up to Haruki in a normal-ish way -- but instead she keeps their dialogue one-sided and never shows anything at all except for one day. She fell for Haruki so early on and so completely...but he doesn't know. *sigh* I can't really blame Haruki for not knowing. While we don't know what Haruki thinks at this point, I think it is still fair to say Haruki has waited long enough... I am of the opinion that they are all blameless/equal in blame as well. I am just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride that is the rest of IC and hope they finish strong enough for a well-funded second season. |
Dec 6, 2013 10:02 PM
#94
Whoa, intense kissing. Also, I didn't expect Kazusa would leave. I wonder what Haruki would do now? |
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Dec 7, 2013 5:54 AM
#95
heiqi1hu said: I think Setsuna uses her scheming skills too much. Ah, if I don't see touma getting anything, gonna drop this. Gonna drop this.. with a few eps left... ? LOL.. what's the point.. good riddance |
Dec 7, 2013 5:02 PM
#96
Seta19 said: heiqi1hu said: I think Setsuna uses her scheming skills too much. Ah, if I don't see touma getting anything, gonna drop this. Gonna drop this.. with a few eps left... ? LOL.. what's the point.. good riddance He actually watched the 10th episode, like the usual hypocrite of MAL. |
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Dec 8, 2013 1:08 AM
#97
Dec 8, 2013 3:10 PM
#99
I think people are bashing Haruki a bit too much, I'm pretty sure the one he liked from the beginning was Touma but since she was always cold towards him, he got the impression of not being like by her. I would mind seeing them end up together though. |
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