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CNagy said: CallMeIshmael said: Maybe someone who's played the game can answer this. Why do Hibiki and many others seem to view Yamato as such a villian? I mean, his core ideal - that the competent should rule - is something pretty much everyone agrees with, if not in words at least in practice (You don't see many people arguing for doctors and engineers should be chosen democratically). (I'm also assuming that his willingness to sacrifice *many* people is basically pragmatic, if somewhat cruel) I haven't played the game, but anime-Yamato doesn't seem to view these actions as sacrifices but rather collateral damage. A sacrifice is giving up something you value, whether it be your possessions, your life, or the lives of others (if you value human life.) In Yamato's worldview, the competent (read: exceptional and gifted) will dominate and the weak either keep up or perish. As he said, he never once considered this a burden. This is neither the system we have now, nor the system that people pretty much agree with. Humans do not cull the weak. Our major advances in technology have made it easier for the weakest among us to survive and multiply. One does not need to be especially talented to live a long and full life; one does not need to exhibit any particular talent to be success. Talent, it needs to be understood, is not skill in this context. A competent doctor is not a talented doctor. Yamato's view point is that the truly exceptional people should create the world to their own standards (with himself being the most exceptional person of all) with no regard as to how this new world condemns those not born with talent to live as trash. And that's kind of a problem for most people--because even the gifted and talented amongst us who would benefit greatly from a system like that know and care for plenty of people who would suffer in such a system. Well, according to the game, Yamato's meritocracy is that the strong(competent, useful) will LEAD the weak, not dominate. It's not the matter of who is strong and who is weak,or who is talented and who is talentless,as long as you have proven that you are capable in something, you will get the position you deserve, so everyone will have to work hard if they want to move up in life. That's what Yamato's meritocracy is. |
| I think Yamato just became my favorite character in this show. |
| Oh no Io, please don't die! I just starting to consider her as my fave character in the series along with Hibiki and Daichi. |
Zaraquiel99 said: Don't forget Yamato is similar to Gendou in quite many ways -- they both want to shape the future after the Angels/Septenrions according to his will and for the achievement of the objective no sacrifice is deemed too much. And neither cares even much of those who work with or under him. And of course both also knew quite a lot of the Angels/Septenrions long before other humans did.Is just me, or there is a similarity between the angel of N.G.Evangelion and the septentrions. I mean, leaving Alcor aside, all the septentions powers and "abilities" seem very similar to those of the Angels in Evangelion--- |
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dex_dash said: KaiserNazrin said: Why didn't they explain about Shiva and Kama summoning? It will be more interesting if people know they are actually reenacting a myth. Oh well, the talk with Alcor at the beginning was quite interesting. Not enough to make up for the lack of interaction with him for the past few episodes though. I wonder if Nitta will die or not, she didn't die in my play through but things can always change. Yamato did explain, by saying "Human hands shall recreate the myth"... Yeah but those who never played the game or have no knowledge about that myth won't have any idea what he is talking about. |
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| ^ So what is the myth? I have a feeling that it is some legend that has to do with human sacrifice so that the community can avert some catastrophe.... |
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SasoriUzumaki said: Neon Genesis Evangelion :) LOL you literally took the words out of my mouth haha Hmm Nitta is going to be sacrfice huh !!? I wonder if it's somehow involves what Fumi was saying before |
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| Yamato is a asshole. Also that was the lamest boss fight I have ever seen. Not sure why no one botherd to you know, evacuate the city. Still given other parts of the ep it was one of the better eps. |
| It seems that everything is coming to the same end. I liked the way the episode set the pace, this time we did not run that past episodes, everything has to be explained and dialogues happened naturally. Only the battle against the 5th which was well ... fast. It reminded me a bit Evangelion actually Yamato's ideals are similar to the Gendou, and that any layman can understand. I would like to see a little about the past of the characters, Yamato would a good flashacks. As for the talk of the choices, I forced through, and despite Hibiki want to protect everyone, how he would survive until the end without the help of JP's? The methods of the Yamato can be hard but are still the best. |
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MyAmy said: My guess is that the next deity/demon that is necessary to beat the next Septarion needs a human sacrifice and not every person fits the bill. I would say this is another objective for the body check besides finding the right people to summon Siva and Khama in this episode.Hmm Nitta is going to be sacrfice huh !!? I wonder if it's somehow involves what Fumi was saying before |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
SasoriUzumaki said: Neon Genesis Evangelion :) but without the Evas |
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| I gawd. I think I'm gonna hate the next episode... :( |
| Io doesn't have to die to use Lugh's power. It's like they're just assuming she will...unless this is some new anime original BS. |
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| I'm liking Alcor more than before :3. Yamato is a douche. I don't think Nitta will die. |
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| I won't mind if Nitta dies, since she's the definition of useless and all she does is whining how she wants to go home to her mother. On the other hand, Hibiki's boyfriend best friend - the one with weak demons - has the same level of uselesness, so why didn't they choose him? Anyway... okay episode. Sakurai's character having an existential crisis. I see the NGE references. Hibiki is pretty annoying with his humanistic bullshit. Yamato is not very likeable either, but still, I'm leaning more towards his side. I knew there was going to be a fanservice moment when Hibiki had jumped into that lift. |
| The only thing you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything. |
| The entire chat scene with Alcor was quite fun. The episode itself was a bore. |
KingLear said: If Nitta is the definition of useless, what is Taichi?? Besides, she last whine about going home to her mother back in the first 2 episodes. Are you not watching the episodes between that and this episode when Nitta got used to fighting, even taking Hibiki's place when he disappeared to rush to the front line in the Osaka battle??I won't mind if Nitta dies, since she's the definition of useless and all she does is whining how she wants to go home to her mother. |
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parfaited said: I fell asleep thrice. Same here. That was a boring episode |
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| Eh. Chatting episode. I'm just looking forward to how this will end. |
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| So what 's happened with coffee and bromance?! I can't help but recall the scene between Haruto and L-elf over at Valvrave. LOL. Both dark-hair protagonists got into a humorous conversation with two sliver-hair bad-asses using coffee and its bitterness as metaphor, then both protagonists were dismissed as naive by silver-hair dudes :)) Did they hire the same writing staff for both shows? XD The episode itself is nice with all the revelations that have been mentioned before. Still, it's quite interesting to see the reactions from all the casts, which are actually nothing much outside the two camps: Yamato, and Hibiki's ideals. Regardless of the in-between, when they confront Polaris, they can choose to follow Yamato, Hibiki, or maybe take over Polaris. All options lead to the new world being created. |
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symbv said: KingLear said: If Nitta is the definition of useless, what is Taichi?? Besides, she last whine about going home to her mother back in the first 2 episodes. Are you not watching the episodes between that and this episode when Nitta got used to fighting, even taking Hibiki's place when he disappeared to rush to the front line in the Osaka battle??I won't mind if Nitta dies, since she's the definition of useless and all she does is whining how she wants to go home to her mother. You mean Daichi, right? I've mentioned him; didn't remember his name (looked it up now though) but from the description, I thought it was pretty obvious; and wondered why they didn't suggest killing him instead? She might have not mentioned her mother in this episode, she said she wanted to go home though. Yeah, I remember some scenes when she was trying to fight, I'd say. She looked utterly conflicted and exhausted afterwards, don't think you can call this 'used to fighting'. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said that she does nothing besides whining, but even the two question marks won't convince me that she's not useless. |
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KingLear said: Maybe I was exaggerating when I said that she does nothing besides whining, but even the two question marks won't convince me that she's not useless. Actually, Io does a lot more than many other characters in this show. If you recall, her demon is the one that save Hibiki and Dachi collective asses in episode 1 and 2. After that she participates in a series of battle where her demon is the main fire power that keep the group alive. Io is not useless, she is central to the story and by agreeing to sacrifice herself to defeat the Septentriones, she will have done more than Yamato, Hibiki, or anyone else to save humanity. I understand that her meek personality gives off the aura of weakness, but it is totally different when you look at the facts. Some people may be annoyed by her crying to much. However, it does not make her useless. Shinji in Evangelion cries even more pathetically, yet no one can say he is useless. |
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AnimeFan500May 31, 2013 4:34 PM
| No OP, but a very interesting talk at the start there. Alcor is interesting and can be pretty funny, be it unintentionally. This attack was repelled relatively easy this time around, but there were a lot of civilian casualties. So next up is Io's sacrifice; the one we've been hearing about last episode. I'm sure they'll find an alternative. |
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| Well you're awesome girl with Sawashiro Miyuki's voice, but don't you DARE TOUCH NITTA! |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HyM-VdzLsyQ Looks like it could go either way, but her hand reaching out to Hibiki's gives me hope. |
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trannon1 said: Barion-Zara said: Alcor is a fun guy to talk with XD Really liked him here. Airi belly Button! Kawaiii >_< <3 XD Yamato is still BA! Love his cold attitude :) Time for drama since Io shall be sacrificed :P Alcor and Airi were well-done but the Yamato of the anime feels weak to me. Him with his gruff attitude is annoying because the in-game Yamato had this bad-ass confident smirk that dared you to go against him that guaranteed a painful result for you if you try. I 100% prefer that Yamato over the anime-Yamato. Also, do you have a grudge against Io? Her parents are dead for god's sake, layoff her a little. She might not die depending on whether Hibiki acts like a nice guy or a jackass. Well everyone except maybe alcor (didn't play his route so i don't know) is way better in the game. |
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| Haha, that was interesting, the scene with Alcor and Hibiki. Well that septentrion was kind of boring, only the shell should be of worry, in which case a part (or all?) of the city was destroyed along with civilians (which they did not give much care for). |
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| Let's see if Nitta will pop like in the game... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: Let's see if Nitta will pop like in the game... Oh god no! ...that's gonna be one heck of a death clip. Hopefully that's Hibiki's hand reaching out to save her. |
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| I've been honestly quite bored with the past episodes. DS started off good, then suddenly it just became cliche, but now it's back!! Well, in my opinion, that is. When that talk with Alcor started, I just can't immediately stop laughing. Then there was that Alcor/Hibiki moment which made me internally scream, and then the part where Daichi and Nitta entered.... the float part.... Alcor is certainly such an interesting character. The fight was fast, but I honestly think it was better than the last ones? I mean, I've really been quite "meh" about the hey-im-raising-my-phone thing. It's fun to see whats-her-name-again dance and Airi showing her belly button was just funny. (( And tbh I don't know whatever myth was that until I saw the posts here.... but okay honestly, what was that myth about- )) The moment Yamato trapped Hibiki in the wall, I immediately sensed some fanservice. BUT WHEN YAMATO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SUBMISSION AND THAT PART WHERE HE LEANED IN I JUST CANTTTTTTTTTTTTTT- And I don't really care more or less about Nitta. I don't think she's useless or anything, but well, what happens happen. I am still disappointed about Keita and the rest... will they get revived ;w; And that one one hell of a dinner. From the 9 I gave this when it started, to the 7 for the past episodes, I'm going to change it back to 8. Depending on the final episodes, I might give back the 9 or even make it 10 ~ |
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ThangLong said: In fact manhy Japanese fans talk about how coincidental we have two shows showing bromance talk about adding suger to coffer LOL LOL I can hardly imagine the likelihood of such thing happening in the same week LOL LOLSo what 's happened with coffee and bromance?! I can't help but recall the scene between Haruto and L-elf over at Valvrave. LOL. ZodiacBeast said: Hmmm... but the title of the next episode is "Friday of Farewell". To be honest I am not optimistic...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HyM-VdzLsyQ Looks like it could go either way, but her hand reaching out to Hibiki's gives me hope. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: ThangLong said: In fact manhy Japanese fans talk about how coincidental we have two shows showing bromance talk about adding suger to coffer LOL LOL I can hardly imagine the likelihood of such thing happening in the same week LOL LOLSo what 's happened with coffee and bromance?! I can't help but recall the scene between Haruto and L-elf over at Valvrave. LOL. ZodiacBeast said: Hmmm... but the title of the next episode is "Friday of Farewell". To be honest I am not optimistic...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HyM-VdzLsyQ Looks like it could go either way, but her hand reaching out to Hibiki's gives me hope. In the game the title refers to everybody splitting up because of their ideals on how to proceed with what little time they have left. I'm still hopeful that something similar happens like Hibiki decides to take Io and Daichi with him because all JPs have done is treat them like crap. |
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| So boring, The game itself is so much better and much more entertaining. Its a game that doesn't translate well into an anime, especially one that is only 13 episodes. A Digital Devil Saga anime would be so much better than this. |
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| Informative episode!!! We learn slightly more about Alcor and his existesne along with JP's plan led by Yamato. I see that he is thinking in an odd way but somehow makes sense in an ideal way. Hibiki realises that such a thing may be too rigid and vows to stop him if he goes in the wrong path. I have to say that everyone is pretty tensed up but its not surprising as the day is coming closer. Alcor made me laugh in this episode as he was being very friendly with Yamato and that coffee and floating scene was pretty comical. Nitta is told by Makoto that she will die and be used as a sacrifice for the upcoming mission. I kind of saw that the Alioth may have that characteristic as the size really does pose a serious problem if it just fell like that and I guess Nagoya has been completely destroyed. Everyone is also told about the plan and the secret by Yamato and they will individually think hard about their decision. Looking forward to the next episode!! 5/5 |
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| 4/5 One more point in voting because the battle made by Hinako and Airi was not bad, especially for the performance of Hinako! XD Half-naked as if it is going to fight the enemy! XD Funny also the speeches of Alcor made with the protagonists. We are almost at the end, Nitta has to die, if true, would be quite a coup! |
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| Alcor is such a nice guy X) is he floating, why not. Liked the part with Airi been shy she just so cute. Wonder about the next episode will they really sacrifice Nitta and will Hibiki keep is promise toward Yamato hum... |
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| Airi looks more like a female protagonist than Io. I couldn't care less if she really dies, didn't like her at all. |
KingYoshi said: So boring, The game itself is so much better and much more entertaining. Its a game that doesn't translate well into an anime, especially one that is only 13 episodes. A Digital Devil Saga anime would be so much better than this. Dunno, considering they screwed this and p4, im not sure if i want them to ruin the glorious DDS. |
| This episode was so rushed. Septentrion 5 deserved at least 2 episodes to explain everything and do all the battles involved. Not to mention they never once mentioned the fact that Alioth deploys toxins as one of his main attacks and they had to create a device to neutralize it. I feel like they wasted way too much time on day one and it's showing by rushing the remaining days, not to mention the mass killing spree and lack of character development in the previous episodes. |
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