| Does anyone except me think that K should be considered as shounen ai? The pairings are just too obvious... |
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| They weren't running around kissing each other or spouting love confessions, so I wouldn't just call it shounen ai. |
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| More like homoerotic subtext, aka fanservice for the BL lovers! But really, I think they shouldn't have put it in unless they intended for it to go that way... Because some people will think that it's BL... The supposed 'BL pairings do stand out, though...' Kuro/Shiro Fushimi/Misaki Mikoto/Reishi... And so on... |
quercifoliaJan 8, 2013 7:54 PM
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| I've never noticed any Shounen-Ai, still don't. Is this a case of me being ignorant, or you wanting to see something that isn't there? |
| That's like labeling every harem with a bath scene and the girls all feel each other's boobs as yuri. Although I haven't seen K, so who knows.. |
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Candor said: Red_Keys said: The BL undertones are too obvious that they got really bothering at some points. The first 6 episodes were just fanservice btw, 95% for the fujoshi/BL-fans, and 5% for the males. (loli, boobs/ass, naked cat)That's like labeling every harem with a bath scene and the girls all feel each other's boobs as yuri. Although I haven't seen K, so who knows.. An entire character whose point was to be naked and act like a kawaii cat girl constitutes 5% in your while subtle undertones that aren't pointed at you make up 95%? Your concept of math is confusing. (I didn't even throw in large breasted cop lady and the random shots of her anatomy for no reason) red_keys pretty much nailed the illogical nature of this argument. |
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Homestuck said: Candor said: Red_Keys said: The BL undertones are too obvious that they got really bothering at some points. The first 6 episodes were just fanservice btw, 95% for the fujoshi/BL-fans, and 5% for the males. (loli, boobs/ass, naked cat)That's like labeling every harem with a bath scene and the girls all feel each other's boobs as yuri. Although I haven't seen K, so who knows.. An entire character whose point was to be naked and act like a kawaii cat girl constitutes 5% in your while subtle undertones that aren't pointed at you make up 95%? Your concept of math is confusing. (I didn't even throw in large breasted cop lady and the random shots of her anatomy for no reason) red_keys pretty much nailed the illogical nature of this argument. Girl to guy ratio of 3:~20. So it's more like 80% bishounens vs 20% catgirl, some pantsu and some tits. |
Paul said: Homestuck said: Candor said: Red_Keys said: The BL undertones are too obvious that they got really bothering at some points. The first 6 episodes were just fanservice btw, 95% for the fujoshi/BL-fans, and 5% for the males. (loli, boobs/ass, naked cat)That's like labeling every harem with a bath scene and the girls all feel each other's boobs as yuri. Although I haven't seen K, so who knows.. An entire character whose point was to be naked and act like a kawaii cat girl constitutes 5% in your while subtle undertones that aren't pointed at you make up 95%? Your concept of math is confusing. (I didn't even throw in large breasted cop lady and the random shots of her anatomy for no reason) red_keys pretty much nailed the illogical nature of this argument. Girl to guy ratio of 3:~20. So it's more like 80% bishounens vs 20% catgirl, some pantsu and some tits. I guess I don't view the very concept of bishounen existing as fanservice? Unless say the very existence of something like schoolgirls or a nurse character counts as fanservice in any other anime. True, the cat girl is only one character, but she's also the only one to have been completely naked... several times. Honestly K's been pretty even with the fanservice as far as I can see. I'm certainly not meaning to suggest that it doesn't exist in both forms because they obviously realized the extreme deficiencies in this anime's plot and sought to cover all bases. |
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Homestuck said: Paul said: Homestuck said: Candor said: Red_Keys said: The BL undertones are too obvious that they got really bothering at some points. The first 6 episodes were just fanservice btw, 95% for the fujoshi/BL-fans, and 5% for the males. (loli, boobs/ass, naked cat)That's like labeling every harem with a bath scene and the girls all feel each other's boobs as yuri. Although I haven't seen K, so who knows.. An entire character whose point was to be naked and act like a kawaii cat girl constitutes 5% in your while subtle undertones that aren't pointed at you make up 95%? Your concept of math is confusing. (I didn't even throw in large breasted cop lady and the random shots of her anatomy for no reason) red_keys pretty much nailed the illogical nature of this argument. Girl to guy ratio of 3:~20. So it's more like 80% bishounens vs 20% catgirl, some pantsu and some tits. I guess I don't view the very concept of bishounen existing as fanservice? Unless say the very existence of something like schoolgirls or a nurse character counts as fanservice in any other anime. Honestly K's been pretty even with the fanservice as far as I can see. Yaoi fangirls can ship anything male. Look at Kuroko's Basketball. |
Paul said: Homestuck said: Paul said: Homestuck said: Candor said: Red_Keys said: The BL undertones are too obvious that they got really bothering at some points. The first 6 episodes were just fanservice btw, 95% for the fujoshi/BL-fans, and 5% for the males. (loli, boobs/ass, naked cat)That's like labeling every harem with a bath scene and the girls all feel each other's boobs as yuri. Although I haven't seen K, so who knows.. An entire character whose point was to be naked and act like a kawaii cat girl constitutes 5% in your while subtle undertones that aren't pointed at you make up 95%? Your concept of math is confusing. (I didn't even throw in large breasted cop lady and the random shots of her anatomy for no reason) red_keys pretty much nailed the illogical nature of this argument. Girl to guy ratio of 3:~20. So it's more like 80% bishounens vs 20% catgirl, some pantsu and some tits. I guess I don't view the very concept of bishounen existing as fanservice? Unless say the very existence of something like schoolgirls or a nurse character counts as fanservice in any other anime. Honestly K's been pretty even with the fanservice as far as I can see. Yaoi fangirls can ship anything male. Look at Kuroko's Basketball. Shippers gonna ship. |
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| That's just going to far |
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| Well shounen-ai isn't a warning tag, haha. It's for people to actually find canon gay relationship anime, not to label anime that hint at fanservice and make homophobes insecure. oh no there was some fujoshi bait in the show who gives a crap, there is otaku shit in more than half of every anime season, and even a bunch of it in this show. |
| looking for examples, otherwise BS. Just because the characters are hot doesn't automatically make it shounen ai.. |
| sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds |
| I dropped the series but I seen bits of each episode after when I was at my friends house and there was nothing "shounen ai" about it. If anything the characters just look gay. |
RX-782Apr 1, 2013 8:44 PM
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Candor said: Ghostony said: From the top of my head:looking for examples, otherwise BS. Just because the characters are hot doesn't automatically make it shounen ai.. - A bishie cooking for another bishie - A bishie king lying on the ground with another bishie king above him, and their heads are close to each other as if they're gonna kiss - A bishie taking of the clothes of another bishie rapidly as if he's horny for him (until we saw the reason for it) Those were the ones I remember for now. The way these were animated were implying BL and pairings (KuroxShiro, Blue KingxRed King YataxTshigi or dunno what's his name in those examples). I actually scratched my head on what I'm watching for a second whenever those scenes appeared. Of course it's shounen-ai in these shows but instances where similar stuff happens with girls in many slice of life/comedy/harem/etc... isn't shoujo-ai. Double standards much? |
| lol! i actually have felt it right from the first episode.. and so I've put it on hold. Coz I'm into shonen at the moment. But I'll surely get back to it I know. X) |
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Mystle said: No. It's more like 'fanservice for fujoshis'. I'm a fujoshi myself, but I think it's better this way. Fudanshi too. But the men complain that they're not getting their moe h-cup tits ecchi anime.. Like with Free! they complained so much. |
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Brotwo said: Candor said: Ghostony said: From the top of my head:looking for examples, otherwise BS. Just because the characters are hot doesn't automatically make it shounen ai.. - A bishie cooking for another bishie - A bishie king lying on the ground with another bishie king above him, and their heads are close to each other as if they're gonna kiss - A bishie taking of the clothes of another bishie rapidly as if he's horny for him (until we saw the reason for it) Those were the ones I remember for now. The way these were animated were implying BL and pairings (KuroxShiro, Blue KingxRed King YataxTshigi or dunno what's his name in those examples). I actually scratched my head on what I'm watching for a second whenever those scenes appeared. Of course it's shounen-ai in these shows but instances where similar stuff happens with girls in many slice of life/comedy/harem/etc... isn't shoujo-ai. Double standards much? Well, no. Example: take a look at two female walking together while holding hands. Can we say its a yuri subtext? Then, take a look at another scene when two bishies walking together hand-on-hand... see where I'm going? There is no such thing as 'equality' in gender roles. |
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| I think you are just looking to much into it. If any romance happens in K it would be NekoXShiro. |
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allflying said: Brotwo said: Of course it's shounen-ai in these shows but instances where similar stuff happens with girls in many slice of life/comedy/harem/etc... isn't shoujo-ai. Double standards much? Well, no. Example: take a look at two female walking together while holding hands. Can we say its a yuri subtext? Then, take a look at another scene when two bishies walking together hand-on-hand... see where I'm going? There is no such thing as 'equality' in gender roles. so what? The moment two guys walk hand in hand (which doesn't happen btw in k) they're gay? It's shounen-ai? Yeah suuuuuure. i won't deny there are some undertones in it but it's fanservice all around. (and for one time it's not overruled by tits and panties and all of that shit, except for neko and Awashima Seri) |
| I'm not rude... I just wasn't taught to politely pretend to be nice to people I can't stand. |
| fujioshi's find shounen ai where ever they can, All male characters have to do lately is laugh at a joke together or eat food together and their shipped. I would far from label K as shounen ai, Yea it was slightly hinted at times but nothing developed, nothing more than what equally could be strong friendship, being close, or embarrassment happened. All K did is try to please both genders in fanservice. not saying every girl likes shounen ai mind. But K's focus isn't love relationships, There isn't a definite couple they were shoving in your face or even hints of characters showing they've developed a love interest, tbh all i saw was strong friendships and trust forming? Not all anime has to have love relationships, Some fujioshi's and then even people who dislike it and mini hints at them freak them out, have to stop labeling love relationships where they just don't exist. A pure example is the railgun series, One character CLEARLY has the hots for another but that's not shoujo ai? |
| i personally don't think it should be considered shounen ai but whatever floats your boat. |
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WasabiDL said: Does anyone except me think that K should be considered as shounen ai? The pairings are just too obvious... Really depends on the watcher. While some see Fushimi x Misaki as a potential pairing I only see two youths that couldn't communicate well with each other and drifted apart as friends. While I on the other hand consider Suoh x Munakata and Kusagi x Seiri canon. The later because of a chapter in manga that I consider intimate for them and the former because of what I noted as chemistry in the anime. I don't know if the creators wanted to tease a possibility for the fans or if they simply were too cautious to actually make something out of these. On the other hand Suoh x Munakata can also simply be noted as very close friends - in denial of such though, but I still believe that some of the close proximity would be too much and weird to display simple friendship. I simply think of these pairs as much left unsaid to leave it to the viewers. As for Kuro, Shiro and Neko I'm lost. They're the odd ones. >_< None the less; no "pair" in this show has become a fact in any way. |
| Yes, please remake this as BL. |
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