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Jul 1, 2012 10:09 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- SPECTACULAR START! AMAZING! Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Moreover the creator combine the Lunar Landing + Rumors of Aliens there to = this series which proved some of its fear on me. I rate this 9 NOW! Let's hope it does not go down and that it may even enter the 10 despite its rather obvious fan service of suits and body parts of girls. However it got one thing! TASTE! It's not stupid shit like in DxD, the girls are actually appealing in a smart way. Don't know if you can catch my ecchi senses here in not a stupid fashion compared to other ecchi shows and their setups of it that make ecchi stupid for its nature. This series does the opposite it makes it smart in how it shows for now as of this episode. Now this has my full attention so the following is what I offer to make people want to watch this series. About the beginning, it was rather very well done and scary to say the least in the spoiler The girls, their designs in the spoiler The first mechs, were nice to see in the following, I liked them a lot. It really astonished me how well they are done. Mouthwatering to say the least. The facility ground, was well designed in the spoiler Yui Takamura, is quite a nice girl and certainly it was nice to see more of the city along with her interactions with another classmate in the spoiler Things get much more interesting with Yui blushing in the spoiler Of the Shrine Maiden, it’s to see a new design from the commander being introduced it was far more enticing to seeing that new girl in the spoiler About the fan service, the fan service is excellent in the spoiler Furthermore it does shy away in showing the girl in the spoiler Of the practice, it was really nice in the spoiler Now back at the barracks, the commander showed a rather nicer facade of himself in the spoiler WOW TIME SKIP 1 YEAR! Shit I did not think they would do it in the spoiler Evacuation and attack patterns in the spoiler The girls preparing, in the spoiler The main first attacks along with the tank in the spoiler The final scramble, in the spoiler Group one is nice! The firing sequence of the launch along with the new faces I see in the spoiler So one can see I have nothing but positive of this series. Here's to a nice summer 2012! |
Yumekichi11Jul 1, 2012 11:14 AM
Jul 1, 2012 10:31 AM
#2
Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P |
Stark700Jul 1, 2012 10:48 AM
Jul 1, 2012 10:52 AM
#3
I totally forgot about this airs at the same time and TV channel as Aquarion Evol. Beta, the enemy (alien), is the target of the battle on space. Looks kind of interesting. School setting, too? And bunches of girls. Then suddenly becoming all women rider of the robots fighting against the enemy. |
tsubasaloverJul 1, 2012 7:18 PM
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Jul 1, 2012 11:06 AM
#4
It's as bad as I expected it to be from seeing the list of staff. Decent animation is rare (edit: come to think of it, I can't even remember anything decent, animation wise), background art looks way worse than EVOL and Mouratsu Pirates EP 1 (FWIR), OP (used as ED this episode) is terrible. CGI is the usual Satelight quality. I hope the VN gets completed soon so I can look at Iizuki's beautiful illustration instead. |
HarunoYumeJul 1, 2012 11:14 AM
Jul 1, 2012 11:19 AM
#5
Stark700 said: To resume quickly lots of stuff. Mech designs are crispier nicer. The setting is on PAR with Rinne that much I will say however the girls the way they are design reflects a more serious approach.Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no Lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P To not deviate the thread I suggest you further talk this on my profile but to make it CLEAR. I would rate this at 16+ and Rinne 13+. For age viewing and that is my difference. The aspect of ti being shown is OVER 9000 compared the more childish aspects of Rinne. No offense to any of its cause I AM A FAN TOO! However I still critic and like to do do so. Also this will make Rinne on competition terms at least. I rated at 9 because else I would put it 10 right away. I want to see if it shall go down or up for me in ratings. TBH I am over praising this but that's how much of a impact it had on me. |
Jul 1, 2012 11:47 AM
#6
Jul 1, 2012 2:56 PM
#8
You found this anime good? I thought it was rushed and an okayish first episode. 3/5 for the episode. Will follow a couple of episodes to see whether its worth the time. |
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Jul 1, 2012 3:05 PM
#9
shanimebib said: You found this anime good? I thought it was rushed and an okayish first episode. 3/5 for the episode. Will follow a couple of episodes to see whether its worth the time. Wait. So let me get this straight. If an anime episode isn't a 4/5 or 5/5 to you that means it's bad? The rating you gave this episode was pretty spot on with what it deserved. However it was by no means bad, it was average. I also agree with the TC, next episode should be great with all the suffering that should ensue. |
Jul 1, 2012 3:17 PM
#10
Kivos said: shanimebib said: You found this anime good? I thought it was rushed and an okayish first episode. 3/5 for the episode. Will follow a couple of episodes to see whether its worth the time. Wait. So let me get this straight. If an anime episode isn't a 4/5 or 5/5 to you that means it's bad? The rating you gave this episode was pretty spot on with what it deserved. However it was by no means bad, it was average. I also agree with the TC, next episode should be great with all the suffering that should ensue. Nope. You got me wrong here. I didn't say it was bad. By saying that I will be giving it a few more shots for another couple of weeks basically implies that I am willing to see if there is any progress or a development for the better. If I thought it was bad, I wouldn't even drop a comment over here since it would be pointless for me to do so. Because I would have dropped this anime and never looked back. :) But if I am honest with myself, I would say the reason for me to give it a chance would be Noto Mamiko, Ohara Sayaka, Sugita Tomokazu, Nakahara Mai and Ono Daisuke. And 4 out of 5 of them are yet to appear in this anime. |
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Jul 1, 2012 4:08 PM
#11
Before anyone asking anything about the original Muv-Luv (Not Muv-Luv Total Eclipse, which is a LN adaptation. It will has a PS3 VN adaptation in the near future, though), I'll drop this FAQ image here: I heard it has poor animation and poor OP (now ED) due to low budget, but I hope the story/direction will be OK. People should at least wait for ep. 2 though, since it supposed to be aired together for maximum initial impact. |
zeroyuki92Jul 1, 2012 4:17 PM
Jul 1, 2012 4:44 PM
#12
zeroyuki92 said: WOW! I READ IT ALL! I doubt I will have anything robed of me but certainly playing the VN changes your outlook on this a lot. Before anyone asking anything about the original Muv-Luv (Not Muv-Luv Total Eclipse, which is a LN adaptation. It will has a PS3 VN adaptation in the near future, though), I'll drop this FAQ image here: I heard it has poor animation and poor OP (now ED) due to low budget, but I hope the story/direction will be OK. People should at least wait for ep. 2 though, since it supposed to be aired together for maximum initial impact. Fortunate for me is that I attach myself easily to characters. OK I SUCK! I figured out I will never have time for this. The manga and side stuff of this is too much for me. Might put in a note to see it in the future but as of now there is way too much shit of this to go through other than the 50 hours of play and frustrations there are countless of other elements such as mangas, LN and sources. At least you opened up the source. Seeking it is a BITCH TBH. Worth it but really bitchy to find stuff of this. On the other hand I had no idea it had Fan Made Hentai Manga. However originals point out this being hentai in nature with a small load. I assume 20% and 80% focus on Plot/Mecha. |
Yumekichi11Jul 1, 2012 4:54 PM
Jul 1, 2012 9:35 PM
#13
First episode jumped ahead a lot but it holds promise imo. |
Jul 1, 2012 9:37 PM
#14
Oo, quite the serious mecha series, I like ; mixing action, drama, tragedy, sci-fi, and mecha all in one fine little package. I'm also enjoying some of the characters in their...LOL, suits already, so hopefully we'll learn about them more soon. Yup, I seen potential in this series already this summer. HOWEVER, this first episode was not impressive tbh. There was barely any story, lacked the action I originally hoped for, and only one of the main characters I think was officially introduced. I still got hope though, for now. |
Stark700Jul 1, 2012 9:53 PM
Jul 1, 2012 9:58 PM
#15
shanimebib said: You found this anime good? I thought it was rushed and an okayish first episode. 3/5 for the episode. Will follow a couple of episodes to see whether its worth the time. Agreed. Same score I gave. This episode is not a 5/5 worthy tbh considering the way it was executed. |
Jul 1, 2012 10:24 PM
#16
Honestly for a first episode it was rather boring. Average at best. I'm sure it will explain more later on, but .... why are high school girls in these mechas? why are they the front line now? where are the .... boys? if the army and such is so useless why do these girls have a chance? the skin tight clothing was interesting I suppose. didn't see much of the actual aliens, I guess that's for next time. I still need to get to the actual VN's, I started the first one, but it was rather boring and my save messed up. Hoping for more with the next episodes... if I'm going to keep watching. |
Jul 1, 2012 10:27 PM
#17
Stark700 said: Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P I agree with you 100% The CG is nice but there are quite a few things that are bad. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Also the character designs are kinda iffy. I wished they would have went more towards an art style like modern Gundam(gundam 00 maybe). I really hope this anime takes a route similar to Gundam since its a mecha anime. Not entirely sold on this yet. |
HysteryJul 1, 2012 10:44 PM
Jul 1, 2012 10:29 PM
#18
Well, I'm giving this a 5/5. Hell, I'd give it a 6/5 if I could. I don't know if everyone's read the VN or whatever, but this is my first time seeing this series in any form and it kept me excited the whole way through. I like the girls, I like the setting, and I like the combat, though I'd like to see more of it, especially the BETA, we didn't really get a great look at 'em. Honestly though, I really enjoyed this, especially the hopeless feeling it's giving off. Makes me want to keep watching to see them turn it around. Maybe it sucks compared to the source material, but that's what people said about Zetman, and I happily gave that an 8, where most people who have read the manga seem to believe that it isn't even worth watching. Oh well, just like with Zetman, I'll watch then check out the source material; I already have Muv-Luv on my computer waiting for me anyway. But the anime comes first, and I'm not disappointed. The people who say this season sucks probably didn't like last season either, and I enjoyed all of the 20 shows I watched this spring, so I guess I'm just glad that my standards seem to be lower. I can't help it, but still, I really think this season looks amazing, especially this show. My 2nd favorite of the summer so far. |
Jul 1, 2012 10:34 PM
#19
Woebegone said: Setting and time might be bad but this alternative and there are many versions of it. Still it's quite realistic when you think of how close after the moon landing it occurred. Moreover Mechs are possible assuming USA never got to Japan badly.Stark700 said: Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P I agree with you 100% The CG is nice but there are quite a few things that are bad. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Woebegone said: Why? I find them refined a la Ikkitousen kind of. Moreover they are made to look mature. I did not see a loli but I think there is none. I know in the VN games there are 2 well DFC but one still looks like a loli and is. Pink haired she looks. Also the character designs are kinda iffy. I wished they would have went more towards an art style like modern Gundam(gundam 00 maybe). Point being that the characters seem less kiddy in appearance than Rinne is all I am trying to make across and certainly it's hard to refute that aspect. Woebegone said: I understand and hence episode 2 might tell more since both this one 2 are like one whole arc. Might want to see both together again. I might.I really hope this anime takes a route similar to what Gundam 00 since it a mecha anime. Not entirely sold on this yet. |
Jul 1, 2012 10:39 PM
#20
Damn, the mecha looks pretty awesome. The story has just begun, can't wait for the war (or it already started I presume) |
Jul 1, 2012 10:40 PM
#21
This series looks promising.Look forward to more of this! |
Jul 1, 2012 10:41 PM
#22
Yumekichi11 said: Woebegone said: Setting and time might be bad but this alternative and there are many versions of it. Still it's quite realistic when you think of how close after the moon landing it occurred. Moreover Mechs are possible assuming USA never got to Japan badly.Stark700 said: Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P I agree with you 100% The CG is nice but there are quite a few things that are bad. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Woebegone said: Why? I find them refined a la Ikkitousen kind of. Moreover they are made to look mature. I did not see a loli but I think there is none. I know in the VN games there are 2 well DFC but one still looks like a loli and is. Pink haired she looks. Also the character designs are kinda iffy. I wished they would have went more towards an art style like modern Gundam(gundam 00 maybe). Point being that the characters seem less kiddy in appearance than Rinne is all I am trying to make across and certainly it's hard to refute that aspect. Woebegone said: I understand and hence episode 2 might tell more since both this one 2 are like one whole arc. Might want to see both together again. I might.I really hope this anime takes a route similar to what Gundam 00 since it a mecha anime. Not entirely sold on this yet. I really do not think Mecha robots in the year 1997/1998 are possible. The time and setting just defies all logic to a point where it does not make sense. All your other Mecha animes like Gundam are set in the future where space is just another place. I really hope this anime makes quantam leap of sorts into the future... For now, 6/10 despite mechas and CG. |
Jul 1, 2012 10:43 PM
#23
Hell is happening because Mamiko Noto has not dazzled the stage yet. |
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Jul 1, 2012 10:48 PM
#24
Woebegone said: Yumekichi11 said: Woebegone said: Setting and time might be bad but this alternative and there are many versions of it. Still it's quite realistic when you think of how close after the moon landing it occurred. Moreover Mechs are possible assuming USA never got to Japan badly.Stark700 said: Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P I agree with you 100% The CG is nice but there are quite a few things that are bad. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Woebegone said: Why? I find them refined a la Ikkitousen kind of. Moreover they are made to look mature. I did not see a loli but I think there is none. I know in the VN games there are 2 well DFC but one still looks like a loli and is. Pink haired she looks. Also the character designs are kinda iffy. I wished they would have went more towards an art style like modern Gundam(gundam 00 maybe). Point being that the characters seem less kiddy in appearance than Rinne is all I am trying to make across and certainly it's hard to refute that aspect. Woebegone said: I understand and hence episode 2 might tell more since both this one 2 are like one whole arc. Might want to see both together again. I might.I really hope this anime takes a route similar to what Gundam 00 since it a mecha anime. Not entirely sold on this yet. I really do not think Mecha robots in the year 1997/1998 are possible. The time and setting just defies all logic to a point where it does not make sense. All your other Mecha animes like Gundam are set in the future where space is just another place. I really hope this anime makes quantam leap of sorts into the future... For now, 6/10 despite mechas and CG. Here's the Muv-luv Alternative timeline. http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline There are no such thing as impossible in manga and anime lol. But damn, the mech CGIs were great. But what about other vehicles such as jet, tanks, or cars and buses. They were either badly drawn or bad CGIs. Not to mention the character animations and camera angles and other stuff as well. Since it's still only 1 episode so far so I'll wait and see, I think I'm gonna watch all of it anyway since I'm a big fan of Muv-luv trilogy :D. |
liemtodaisuJul 1, 2012 10:53 PM
Jul 1, 2012 10:51 PM
#25
liemtodaisu said: Woebegone said: Yumekichi11 said: Woebegone said: Setting and time might be bad but this alternative and there are many versions of it. Still it's quite realistic when you think of how close after the moon landing it occurred. Moreover Mechs are possible assuming USA never got to Japan badly.Stark700 said: Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P I agree with you 100% The CG is nice but there are quite a few things that are bad. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Woebegone said: Why? I find them refined a la Ikkitousen kind of. Moreover they are made to look mature. I did not see a loli but I think there is none. I know in the VN games there are 2 well DFC but one still looks like a loli and is. Pink haired she looks. Also the character designs are kinda iffy. I wished they would have went more towards an art style like modern Gundam(gundam 00 maybe). Point being that the characters seem less kiddy in appearance than Rinne is all I am trying to make across and certainly it's hard to refute that aspect. Woebegone said: I understand and hence episode 2 might tell more since both this one 2 are like one whole arc. Might want to see both together again. I might.I really hope this anime takes a route similar to what Gundam 00 since it a mecha anime. Not entirely sold on this yet. I really do not think Mecha robots in the year 1997/1998 are possible. The time and setting just defies all logic to a point where it does not make sense. All your other Mecha animes like Gundam are set in the future where space is just another place. I really hope this anime makes quantam leap of sorts into the future... For now, 6/10 despite mechas and CG. Here's the Muv-luv Alternative timeline. http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline There are no such thing as impossible in manga and anime lol. Yes I agree with you there but I tend to like animes that follow logic in a reasonably timeline more. Thank you for the link to the alt. timeline though. ;) |
Jul 1, 2012 10:55 PM
#26
That was kinda interesting, wasn't fantastic, but its ep 1. It reminded me of alot of different sci-fi/mecha concepts mashed into one, which was fun to watch. Felt pretty nostalgic for that reason. Not sure where its gonna go from here though. Guess we'll see in Ep2. |
Jul 1, 2012 10:58 PM
#27
mystik said: Honestly for a first episode it was rather boring. Average at best. I'm sure it will explain more later on, but .... why are high school girls in these mechas? why are they the front line now? where are the .... boys? if the army and such is so useless why do these girls have a chance? the skin tight clothing was interesting I suppose. didn't see much of the actual aliens, I guess that's for next time. I still need to get to the actual VN's, I started the first one, but it was rather boring and my save messed up. Hoping for more with the next episodes... if I'm going to keep watching. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Answers, may be considered light, setting spoilers since it may not described in the anime yet: Why high school girls? Because most of the men was already dead. A good portion of veterans/high ranked survival are men, but most of new recruits in Japan are girls due to changes in recent military conscription. Girls initially aren't deployed to the front lines, but in a world where war have been prolonged for more than 30 years, half of the world are in Alien's hand already and human population are around 1 billion left, you don't have many choices. if the army is useless, why girls will have any chances? It's not like they have bigger chances, they just don't have any more people to send. Didn't get to see much of the actual aliens Enjoy the 2nd episode! For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. This is an alternative world where WWII have a bit different outcome (Japan were not bombed with nuclear bomb, US bombed Berlin instead. Japan still lose, but as a result they still have the "Shogunate") Space exploration started a bit faster. Thus, humanity encountered "aliens" (BETA) in 60's. War with aliens started in 70's (or 80's, I forget) and those robots were created due to the end of "aerial army superiority", since aerial units could be easily annihilated by some of Alien's classes. Current robots created due to need of flexibility+agility, since tanks couldn't match BETA that easily outnumber any armies that humanity could afford. Also, please mind that this 1st episode supposed to be watched together with the 2nd episode. |
Jul 1, 2012 11:01 PM
#28
Woebegone said: liemtodaisu said: Woebegone said: Yumekichi11 said: Woebegone said: Setting and time might be bad but this alternative and there are many versions of it. Still it's quite realistic when you think of how close after the moon landing it occurred. Moreover Mechs are possible assuming USA never got to Japan badly.Stark700 said: Yumekichi11 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rinne will seriously GTFO from this. In fact I fear for Rinne losing money over this. This is AMAZING! I SCREAM IN EXCITEMENT! If there is one thing to look forward in terms of ecchi, serious shit, mecha and high quality to boot along it's this series. LOOK NO FURTHER! Disagree. Although both series have some similarities with action and mecha, these two anime are not too alike. For one thing, Rinne no Lagrange focuses more on friendship with a somewhat serious plot. Both series does have apocalyptic themes but it seems that this one is much more serious. Rinne no Lagrange also has gags while this series has more of the dramatic side as it seems as of now. So, these two series are actually a bit different in terms of entertainment. Rinne no lagrange for more of the fun side while Muv-luv is more into the apocalypse genre. Also, idk why you rated this a "9" based on the first episode as its almost impossible to tell the basis of an entire series based on its pilot. Now I don't know about the sales but I just don't see how Rinne will be "losing money over this" series. In conclusion: Rinne is not going to get "gtfo" from this, at least from my point of view especially part 2 as I can see quite a story starting to develop compared to part 1 although some viewers may have put-on hold for part 2 as the ways that part 1 of Rinne no Lagrange played down was a bit slow. As a fan of Rinne no Lagrange, that's how I feel :P I agree with you 100% The CG is nice but there are quite a few things that are bad. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Woebegone said: Why? I find them refined a la Ikkitousen kind of. Moreover they are made to look mature. I did not see a loli but I think there is none. I know in the VN games there are 2 well DFC but one still looks like a loli and is. Pink haired she looks. Also the character designs are kinda iffy. I wished they would have went more towards an art style like modern Gundam(gundam 00 maybe). Point being that the characters seem less kiddy in appearance than Rinne is all I am trying to make across and certainly it's hard to refute that aspect. Woebegone said: I understand and hence episode 2 might tell more since both this one 2 are like one whole arc. Might want to see both together again. I might.I really hope this anime takes a route similar to what Gundam 00 since it a mecha anime. Not entirely sold on this yet. I really do not think Mecha robots in the year 1997/1998 are possible. The time and setting just defies all logic to a point where it does not make sense. All your other Mecha animes like Gundam are set in the future where space is just another place. I really hope this anime makes quantam leap of sorts into the future... For now, 6/10 despite mechas and CG. Here's the Muv-luv Alternative timeline. http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline There are no such thing as impossible in manga and anime lol. Yes I agree with you there but I tend to like animes that follow logic in a reasonably timeline more. Thank you for the link to the alt. timeline though. ;) I was kinda bit disappointed with ep 1 but let's see how it goes. If it's still bad until the final ep then you should try the Visual novel Muv-luv trilogy. It might be boring from Extra to Unlimited. But you will get hooked once you're on Alternative. These mecha technologies were developed cause human are being desperate to fight against BETA. They had no choice. That's why other technology other than weapons were not developed so no game consoles, no high-def LCD tv, heck even civilians can't afford a TV.And men, well most of adults and men are already dead on the frontline. That's why now they had to use women and children, it got more desperate as years past. You can see later on it's like North Korea with mecha and nothing else. Trust me you'll love Muv-luv Alternative. |
liemtodaisuJul 1, 2012 11:04 PM
Jul 1, 2012 11:04 PM
#29
zeroyuki92 said: mystik said: Honestly for a first episode it was rather boring. Average at best. I'm sure it will explain more later on, but .... why are high school girls in these mechas? why are they the front line now? where are the .... boys? if the army and such is so useless why do these girls have a chance? the skin tight clothing was interesting I suppose. didn't see much of the actual aliens, I guess that's for next time. I still need to get to the actual VN's, I started the first one, but it was rather boring and my save messed up. Hoping for more with the next episodes... if I'm going to keep watching. For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. Answers, may be considered light, setting spoilers since it may not described in the anime yet: Why high school girls? Because most of the men was already dead. A good portion of veterans/high ranked survival are men, but most of new recruits in Japan are girls due to changes in recent military conscription. Girls initially aren't deployed to the front lines, but in a world where war have been prolonged for more than 30 years, half of the world are in Alien's hand already and human population are around 1 billion left, you don't have many choices. if the army is useless, why girls will have any chances? It's not like they have bigger chances, they just don't have any more people to send. Didn't get to see much of the actual aliens Enjoy the 2nd episode! For one, the setting and time the 1st ep is. 1998, and extraterrestrial beings? Doesn't really make sense. 1998 and GIGANTIC MECHA ROBOTS? Doesn't really make sense. This is an alternative world where WWII have a bit different outcome (Japan were not bombed with nuclear bomb, US bombed Berlin instead. Japan still lose, but as a result they still have the "Shogunate") Space exploration started a bit faster. Thus, humanity encountered "aliens" (BETA) in 60's. War with aliens started in 70's (or 80's, I forget) and those robots were created due to the end of "aerial army superiority", since aerial units could be easily annihilated by some of Alien's classes. Current robots created due to need of flexibility+agility, since tanks couldn't match BETA that easily outnumber any armies that humanity could afford. Also, please mind that this 1st episode supposed to be watched together with the 2nd episode. I see, I see.. US f***** Germany instead of Japan and we went to space early. I guess I will keep watching. |
Jul 1, 2012 11:16 PM
#30
I must say I a am not a mecha fan, but I will be definitely following this. |
Jul 1, 2012 11:21 PM
#31
Jul 1, 2012 11:25 PM
#33
Icebreaker93 said: For the 1st episode was boring. Well duh, Steins;gate aint interesting until it gets to around ep9, 10 where shit started to get serious. Just be patient for now bro. |
Jul 1, 2012 11:36 PM
#34
First episode - M.O.D reboot. Second episode - White mecha must die Gloomy start but it looks promising. |
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Jul 2, 2012 12:08 AM
#35
If newcomers don't understand the anime, it's probably better if you play the Muv-Luv VN since it is definitely better than the anime. But this anime is still good ^^ (I'm a fan I can't help it) Slightly disappointed that there are only rips available atm, really wanted UTW to do it, but the anime made it better for me. |
Jul 2, 2012 12:12 AM
#36
Muv-Luv-er said: If newcomers don't understand the anime, it's probably better if you play the Muv-Luv VN since it is definitely better than the anime. But this anime is still good ^^ (I'm a fan I can't help it) Slightly disappointed that there are only rips available atm, really wanted UTW to do it, but the anime made it better for me. There are already 720p from CR and Horriblesubs I think, go to Nyaa to check it out. |
Jul 2, 2012 12:41 AM
#37
liemtodaisu said: Icebreaker93 said: For the 1st episode was boring. Well duh, Steins;gate aint interesting until it gets to around ep9, 10 Steins;Gate is not interesting at all. |
Jul 2, 2012 12:47 AM
#38
Got to see the first 2 episodes at Anime Expo yesterday, and started reading the 3 manga parts 2 days before and I have to say this is quite reinvigorating the Terran mecha love in me. Love the Parallel universe aspect of it too. Kinda sad that I laughed at the whole "8 Minutes of not being killed" trope they had going on and like...yeah felt bad for the girls. :< Gruesome anime too since they literally showed the Zerg BETA feeding scenes. :V TL;DR:Basically its Terran vs. Zerg But Overall a 5/5 for me. |
NettoAzureJul 2, 2012 12:51 AM
Jul 2, 2012 12:50 AM
#39
I love the serious but the 1st episode was boring as hell. Hopefully we actually see some aliens next episode. |
Jul 2, 2012 12:55 AM
#40
Well, we're off to a slow start, it seems. |
Jul 2, 2012 12:58 AM
#41
Icebreaker93 said: For the 1st episode was boring. 2nd Episode will be dark and gruesome. Really sad. . Aria_Shachou said: Second episode - White mecha must die Gloomy start but it looks promising. Second Episode - IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZORZ! |
Jul 2, 2012 1:02 AM
#42
loved how they started this series off nice and carefree. can't wait for the despair and angst :) |
Jul 2, 2012 1:07 AM
#43
Jul 2, 2012 1:11 AM
#44
jack2727 said: Any idea if the protagonist from the game will be in this? Girls in mecha's are good and all but there needs to be at least one guy >_> Just wouldn't make sense if no guys were trained lol Sadly, our super rookie Takeru wont appear. He might if this show made some success lol. |
Jul 2, 2012 1:12 AM
#45
Pardon me, but... Have ANY of you read the Visual Novels? |
Jul 2, 2012 1:14 AM
#46
liemtodaisu said: jack2727 said: Any idea if the protagonist from the game will be in this? Girls in mecha's are good and all but there needs to be at least one guy >_> Just wouldn't make sense if no guys were trained lol Sadly, our super rookie Takeru wont appear. He might if this show made some success lol. I actually made a mistake and got this mixed up with Muv-Luv Alternative, where as the anime is Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse meaning Yuuya Bridges would be in it... atleast he was in the manga |
Jul 2, 2012 1:14 AM
#47
Well, from the perspective of someone who has read the VNs, this was VERY dissapointing. And nearly all of the main cast is pretty annoying. Talking in the middle of a lecture... they'll learn soon enough. They'll be flying up there thinking "Oh what did that old guy say about lasers or something?" and BAM, barbecued teenager. |
Jul 2, 2012 1:16 AM
#48
Jul 2, 2012 1:26 AM
#49
I didn't find anything wrong with giving a reasonable introduction of what has happened to motivate the main characters when they finally get to the location for the bulk of the series (Alaska I believe). Showing the destruction of Japan, and presumably a high proportion of the characters shown thus far, is better than just throwing us into the main action immediately without a backstory. Earlier comments have explained adequately why they are reduced to suiting up high school girls for the mobile infantry (or whatever they're calling it). We do know courtesy of glasses girl and her letter that there are at least some boys around at the front lines. What I found really interesting was the talk on the bus and the general feeling of a country that is in a war to the death, and is losing. While its been a little slow thus far, I'm willing to give it time to develop. |
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Jul 2, 2012 1:27 AM
#50
Netto_Azure said: This:Gruesome anime too since they literally showed the Zerg BETA feeding scenes. :V http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2024/936f5c2b.gif must be that part right. A friend showed it to me but I don't how he got that part or from where. |
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