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Jul 15, 2011 6:42 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Saw it in theatres today and it was about as good as I expected. I liked Julia but the whole philosophers stone thing seemed a bit stale. Still enjoyable watch and it came with manga volume 11.5 :D Saw it in Yokohama AMC |
JrittmayerJul 16, 2011 9:04 PM
Jul 31, 2011 12:02 AM
#2
Jul 31, 2011 3:26 PM
#3
I was kind of disappointed by this movie. I felt like it focused too much on Julia and her brother with the drama between them and was disappointed that Roy, Hawkeye, and Armstrong did not get to do very much. I felt like Julia and her brother got a hell of a lot more screen time than Ed and Al, too. And I knew it was filler before going in. I saw it at Otakon as well on Saturday (whoo US premiere here too!) so I was pretty hyped up with a lot of other people, and maybe I set my standards too high. Julia was at least likable, but meh. And I also thought that the Philosopher's Stone bit was stale. It still had great action scenes and is worth a watch if you're a fan of FMA. I'll most likely watch it again when it gets dubbed, but it's not something I'm going to go out of my way to look for, sadly. |
Jul 31, 2011 3:49 PM
#4
Yay another Saturday Otakon watcher too lol. I liked it for the most part but there were times when I though Julia was straight up retarded and shoulda died. The one thing that I couldn't shake off though was how they just easily threw in some philosopher stones right outta the damn blue. I mean one moment we killed just two peoples for their blood the next we have a philospher's stone hiding away in the city lol what? Well granted they didn't call it the philospher's stone but close enough. |
Jul 31, 2011 4:46 PM
#5
*watched it at Otakon on Saturday too* I dunno...the movie was just meh to me.... There were too many "oh snap!!" reversals for my taste. (And I agree with Eixy on the "oh look everyone has a philosopher stone" thing they overthrew in there) The only thing I actually really liked in the movie was the visual effect they did for the 3D alchemy circle thing (or whatever they called it) and that's kinda sad.... |
Jul 31, 2011 7:59 PM
#6
Watched it at Otakon on SUNDAY~ because the Saturday showing got too full. Also thought it was 'meh'. |
Jul 31, 2011 7:59 PM
#7
*Notices sudden influx of response to thread* Well its about time some more people watched it! I found the visuals rather nice, the character designs were a bit different it seems but not in a bad way. Dubbed should be good, just as with the TV series and previous movie. I agree with above posters about how characters such as Winry and Mustang were barely in it. I feel as though they were thrown in simply to "be there". |
Aug 1, 2011 7:51 AM
#8
Well I do wish there was more screentime with the usual characters, but this was a filler episode afterall. I didn't have much expectations aside from a lot of stuff blowing up and the usual witty banter between Ed and Al. I still enjoyed it very much though. That being said, in terms of movies I think Conqueror of Shamballa blew this one out of the water. |
Nov 13, 2011 11:30 PM
#9
Whoo, just got back from watching it in San Francisco. I gotta say, I really enjoyed the movie, though I wish there was more of that 4 way battle with Atlas, the Black bats, the Elric Brothers and the Wolf Chimeras like on the train scene. It totally felt Fullmetal-ish and the plot twists were great; I'm glad there was no total happy ending as nobody deserved it. Listening to Atlas rip that skin... *vomit* |
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Nov 14, 2011 9:11 AM
#10
This was good. Didn't really expect much but it was good. Hope they make a few more of these if possible but it's very hard to see how if it isn't going to be named "Fullmetal Alchmeist: Just Another name for the Philosopher's Stone". Knew those scarred skin marks on "Ashleigh"s neck wasn't just for show. I also wanted to see Mustang in action but we got nothing... Just a scene with toasted chimera.... The ending was also.... LOL... Al's love interest? Where did that come from.... They could also have explained better how the stone was made and what were those rooms for.... Did they only require certain amount of blood to activate those other rooms and subsequently by doing so, killing people in those rooms and adding them to the pool? Cause surely blood from 2 alone can't make for so much let alone a stone which was used so frequently. Still a good movie well animated. |
Nov 20, 2011 11:00 AM
#11
Watched it in Russia at a festival. I'm not dissapointed, though my expectations weren't that high anyway, as it was pretty obvious from the trailers that the animation's really different from the series and not that great. But overall, it had some funny moments, a nice, pretty interesting plot, great action scenes, as usual. So I enjoyed it and still recommend it to all the FMA fans. |
Jan 17, 2012 4:03 PM
#12
I saw the dub version last week. Really great movie but it just felt like another "city" arc for FMA. Julia was just there for...i dunno what reason but the fake Ashlie/Ashrie/Ashley/Ashleigh(I dunno how his name is spell) just suprised me...I mean, who would think the masked guy is the real ashley(ok, this is the most common spelling of the name). I have to say though, the fight at the end was epic...I also have a question, why did Al's blood seal not rub off when he was swimming?? I was kinda sad though at the end when ashley went back to cretan..i wanted him to stay with his sister =( The best part is Winry's scream when she was flying with Ed. After watching it, I would have to say, I am an Ashley fangirl <3 |
Jan 20, 2012 11:33 PM
#13
Just got back from the theater for the dub version. Pretty good movie, some holes here and there, surprisingly gory, action scenes were well done and a little rushed but pretty good. 8/10 for me. Dub was very well done, it was 10 times better seeing it in the theater tho. |
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Jan 21, 2012 7:40 PM
#14
Jan 22, 2012 12:43 AM
#15
Haven't watched the dub, but I'd say the Japanese/subbed version is pretty epic. It kind of fills the hole in FMA:B where the conflict in the western part of Amestris wasn't really covered. Maybe I'll go back and rewatch it in the dub version. |
Jan 22, 2012 3:29 AM
#16
Saw the Funimaion threatrical release. The dub sucked ass. The movie itself I thought was merely ok. Didn't seem particularly well animated to me. Story was kind of interesting, but not great overall. I gave the movie a 7 overall, but I think that was generous. Probably closer to a 6 then a 7 |
Jan 22, 2012 4:41 PM
#17
I saw it yesterday at the Downtown Independent in Los Angeles. I had a good time but yes, in terms of animation quality it was not Bones' best work. The animation looked like a step down from Conqueror of Shambala. All the action was well done but the story and writing was on the clunky side. The two big plot twists on right after the other at the end kind of came off poorly. Here are my other problems: -OK so the Milos people apparently hate alchemy and that's why they cast out the Crichton family who took refuge in Crayta who took over the Milos holy land in search of the philosopher's stone. However, the Milos people now apparently use and accept alchemy? When did that change? -So not only that, the Milos nation knew all about alchemy and made philospher's stones in their complicated contraption through live human sacrifice. So when did Milos reject alchemy? -Where was the Craytan country and cities? It looked like they had that one volcano base on top of the hill and what else? -Also what happened to the citizens and military in Table City? If Milos took over Table City is the military withdrawing? -So is Ashley Crichton going to continue being the Craytan General Herschel and subjugating Milos? It definitely comes off that way at the end. Still his staying in Milos really meant he should be hung or convicted of war crimes should it not? Regardless, the script could've used a couple more run throughs and used some serious polishing. I love Winry as a character, but her inclusion adds almost nothing to the story. Her role is very forced. I did enjoy that Al had sort of a half-romance though. That was cute. |
Jan 22, 2012 10:27 PM
#18
Just got back from the theater, watched it dubbed. I'd have to say I'm a little disappointed. It seemed like there was a lot of inconsistency with the quality of the animation. I thought the characters looked better in the TV series than they did in this movie. But all the fight scenes were really well done. The story, I felt was too far fetched when you try to relate it to the Brotherhood series. I wasn't really too into it. I couldn't figure out who Ashley reminded me of as I watched the movie. Now I realized it and can't see it any other way. Alex Row from Last Exile. |
Jan 23, 2012 10:10 PM
#19
Just saw it in the theater, I thought it was pretty awesome! The dub's great,and the animation as well. The art was more like the first series, than Brotherhood. Action was intense, and it was actually pretty gory. Julia is great, especially when she "Stone's out", but why did she get possessed but the stone when she swallowed it, but Kimbly didn't? The ending fight was super epic, but Ashley was probably my least favorite character. And, Al's finally got his own chick, and can quit sweating Ed's kool-aid!! 9/10 Urahara Out!! |
Jan 26, 2012 7:40 PM
#20
whoops can't remember if the story was good or not, too focused on the AWFUL animation geez bones I expected a lot more from you |
Jan 27, 2012 6:53 AM
#21
whoops can't remember if the story was good or not, too focused on the AWFUL animation geez bones I expected a lot more from you why do you find the animation bad? I'm genuinely curious. Zewerr said: Just got back from the theater, watched it dubbed. I'd have to say I'm a little disappointed. It seemed like there was a lot of inconsistency with the quality of the animation. I thought the characters looked better in the TV series than they did in this movie. But all the fight scenes were really well done. The story, I felt was too far fetched when you try to relate it to the Brotherhood series. I wasn't really too into it. I couldn't figure out who Ashley reminded me of as I watched the movie. Now I realized it and can't see it any other way. Alex Row from Last Exile. I haven't seen the movie yet because it's not out on DVD and I live in a lame third world country, but are you sure the 'inconsistencies' weren't actually 100% intentional? judging by the trailer this seemed like a very loosely animated movie, the type of thing with a lot of intentional off-model animation and lots of freedom given to the animators. the original FMA and Brotherhood also clearly had this too (for instance there was a scene animated by Hiroyuki Imaishi that looked more like something out of Gurren Lagann than FMA), but, if the footage I've seen is any indication, Milos did it more and it's more noticeable. |
Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM
#22
I just saw a theatrical release in Temecula. It was a digital show, and it appears that they used a DVD for the show instead of a Blue-ray. The audience was small - maybe 40 people. All-in-all, I found it to be fairly mediocre: - The animation was very inconsistant and the scenic shots were particularly underwhelming - The overall print (is that the right term for a digital screening?) was fairly muddy - The dub was tolerable, but I missed the Japanese voice actors - particularly Romy Paku - The story was something of a mess, with too many pieces snipped from he original FMA TV series and an overall lack of originality. For a side-story this just had filler written all over it. - There was too much moralizing (that may have been the fault of the translation and dub - I can't be certain since I haven't heard the original dialog). - There was too little Ed and Al, too much of the new characters, and the cameos of the old crowd such as Roy were out of character. So I'm glad that I only paid $7 to see it instead of buying the Japanese Blu-ray sight-unseen. One thing it did do was to make me want to re-watch the original series again. |
Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM
#23
Just saw the movie today in theatres (yes, I know I'm late), and I have to say it was not anything like what I hoped it would be. The plot was really stale and seemed like we've been through the whole shabang before. They brought back characters for no reason, and I really felt that the plot cold have gone on without a hitch without Ed and Al. It felt more like a waste of time (and money) to me, and I am truly disappointed. There was quite a bit unnecessary gore. I didn't like the look the characters had, but the fight scenes were pretty smooth, especially with the chimeras and such. Although I have one question: When the hell did they make chimeras advanced enough to be able to talk and to be able to change back into their human form??? I kinda wished they would have expanded on that a little.... |
Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM
#24
if lack of consistency is people's only gripe with the animation then it must be great. intentionally inconsistent animation that takes advantage of each animator's strong points is great. |
Feb 4, 2012 3:27 PM
#25
busterbeam said: but are you sure the 'inconsistencies' weren't actually 100% intentional? judging by the trailer this seemed like a very loosely animated movie, the type of thing with a lot of intentional off-model animation and lots of freedom given to the animators. the original FMA and Brotherhood also clearly had this too (for instance there was a scene animated by Hiroyuki Imaishi that looked more like something out of Gurren Lagann than FMA), but, if the footage I've seen is any indication, Milos did it more and it's more noticeable. I thought about that, and thought it could be possible. But it felt very out of place. TheFukoMaster said: When the hell did they make chimeras advanced enough to be able to talk and to be able to change back into their human form??? I kinda wished they would have expanded on that a little.... Martel, Dolcetto, Roa, Jerso, Zampano, remember any of these? |
Feb 5, 2012 6:20 PM
#26
I guess I'll have to watch the movie myself. I've seen cases where style shifts feel like they have no real logic to them (the first episode of The Hakkenden is a good example), and cases where they do and it's just a matter of people preferring everything to stay on-model at all times. |
Feb 8, 2012 12:02 PM
#27
hell yeah, the animation was fantastic. Lots of energetic and visually appealing cuts, I love it when directors give animators leeway and don't restrict them to boring and static animation. |
Feb 9, 2012 3:03 AM
#28
Julia's brother (young one) kinda sounded like Miyu-Miyu, but who actually voiced him? Ryohei Kimura? It took about an hour until the story got to main point about why the Milos place is important ("Kenja no ishi"). |
tsubasaloverFeb 9, 2012 3:54 AM
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Feb 10, 2012 4:57 AM
#29
I'm messing about with the seek bar right now and the animation looks pretty good. it's clearly using a sketchier style with a lot of frames that look like this http://i.imgur.com/AWxRs.jpg during action scenes, but it doesn't feel out-of-place because it was clear from the beginning that this movie was going to look different from the other animated versions of FMA. it's a less shiny, looser style. It's kind of how some people had trouble with One Piece movie 6 saying it was "badly animated" when in reality the animation was fine and it just intentionally used a different style. |
Feb 10, 2012 6:46 AM
#30
Not too bad overall, I actually was surprised with quality of this filler movie. Very good action sequences but , predictably, a very simple in its twists plot. solid 7/10 from me |
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Feb 10, 2012 11:49 PM
#31
A pretty disappointment after Brotherhood being so fantastic, but the movie got much better as it went out. It's still FMA and all the cliches it uses. Animation was pretty awful though at parts. Kinda silly considered you expect the opposite for a movie. |
Feb 12, 2012 7:27 AM
#32
Nice movie 10/10 It was definitely better than Conqueror of Shamballa. ~Watched it today~ |
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Feb 12, 2012 11:31 AM
#33
I didn't like the animation. :( Overall, the movie was OK. |
Feb 12, 2012 11:34 AM
#34
Feb 12, 2012 11:43 AM
#35
Jrittmayer said: Yes, and UTW have translated it.Did the pirated version just come out or something or why is there such an influx of responses to this thread? The movie was nothing special imo, just the usual average filler movie. I didn't really have anything against the animation, at least there was a lot of movement during the fights. |
Feb 12, 2012 2:03 PM
#36
Wow this was almost painful to sit through. Alright fight choreography early on, but the later ones weren't really special. Everything else was just, ugh. |
Feb 12, 2012 3:03 PM
#37
I expected something shitty like Shambala, but Instead I got something amazing ^_^ The art was a little iffy, the animation was top notch as usual with Bones. The fight scenes were amazing and the drama was there. It also had something that Shambala didn't have, good villains :) I am so happy that this was so good :D 9/10 from me. |
Feb 12, 2012 4:52 PM
#38
I started the movie pretty happily, it inflected a great mood at first, began reminiscing on how I don't credit FMA enough for carrying the shounen genre with a bearable series. Then it started to go downhill from there, just incessant bad developments ensued. Everything leaned towards the traditional "bad" cliche shounen, something that Fullmetal Alchemist typically doesn't represent. Now the ending to this was also somewhat lackluster; it appears to be a logically impossible "happy ending". They essentially nearly destroyed the world, there isn't logic in granting them freedom without punishment. It's great that a smaller nation got it's "independence", but it's kind of surrounded by two powers. One power has a brigade of alchemists, while the other has a arsenal of chimeras. All it has is strong will, and determination, that isn't enough to defend itself against attack. Unless the surrounding nations contest the newly "independent" territory leading to a stalemate, but that's just the best case scenario. Overall, was an enjoyable watch I guess, didn't really expect much out of the movie. Although that ending with Ed complementing her was unneeded and somewhat forced, there wasn't exactly any development between those two, nevertheless actual chemistry. Also, where the fuck was the Mustang action, all he did was watch; I expected fucking fireballs everywhere. |
mdzFeb 12, 2012 4:56 PM
Feb 12, 2012 4:54 PM
#39
Feb 12, 2012 5:33 PM
#40
Really great movie. Julia was quite the cutie. Not a fan of the voice acting. Ed's voice reminded me alot of Naruto's voice. |
Feb 12, 2012 6:59 PM
#41
The animation wasn't nearly as good as Brotherhood. I was expecting it to look more like it did in the show, so that was a bit of a letdown. The movie itself was pretty good though. I felt like WAY too much stuff was happening at the beginning like on the train. It all gets explained before too long but still. Having Ashley, the spies, and the wolf chimera all doing stuff at once, it got a little crazy for a few minutes there. And I felt like the stopping magma scene was just a little too weird...maybe that's just me. |
Feb 12, 2012 7:54 PM
#42
Nothing spectacular or particularly interesting as the brotherhood series. But it was alright for a filler movie. Also, doesn't Julia look like a rehash of Winry? It's like they swapped their colour pallet, clothes, let her hair down and that was it. |
Estoy_GordoFeb 12, 2012 8:04 PM
Feb 13, 2012 12:35 AM
#43
pretty average movie nothing outstanding alright for fans of the orginial series. |
Feb 13, 2012 3:16 AM
#44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xVAjR_VNcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgV_WKfCX_c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is_ux1PtBSs I sure hope none of you are referring to scenes like this when saying 'bad animation', the werewolf characters looked fine too. obviously they were meant to be extremely fast, so they were animated in a sketchy, loose way. |
Feb 13, 2012 3:33 AM
#45
busterbeam said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xVAjR_VNcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgV_WKfCX_c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is_ux1PtBSs I sure hope none of you are referring to scenes like this when saying 'bad animation', the werewolf characters looked fine too. obviously they were meant to be extremely fast, so they were animated in a sketchy, loose way. People are calling the art "animation" again. People how about learning the difference? |
Feb 13, 2012 3:44 AM
#46
I liked the movie. It really makes me sad the Fullmetal Alchemist is over. |
Feb 13, 2012 4:25 AM
#47
Sir_Lexa said: busterbeam said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xVAjR_VNcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgV_WKfCX_c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is_ux1PtBSs I sure hope none of you are referring to scenes like this when saying 'bad animation', the werewolf characters looked fine too. obviously they were meant to be extremely fast, so they were animated in a sketchy, loose way. People are calling the art "animation" again. People how about learning the difference? in all honesty, I'll admit that the art is a BIT iffy at times. however, there's more than enough good bits to make up for that. then again, I'm willing to believe that parts like this... http://i.imgur.com/8rLKd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ns0j2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gHXRp.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yVhAA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UwzMv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/q8NIN.jpg ...are considered to have 'bad art' too. I think that's absolutely silly. they're expressive, stylish frames that are very well-drawn within the context of their individual, very dynamic scenes. I'd be very disappointed in anime fans if they turned this into another Naruto 167/Gurren episode 4 fiasco. this isn't even drawn to look especially ugly like those examples were; it's just stylish looking, loose and well done action. |
Feb 13, 2012 9:55 AM
#48
2011 Burbank International Film Festival Best Feature (Animation) Won 2011 Burbank International Film Festival Best Writing (Animation / Adaptation) Won 2011 Burbank International Film Festival Best Director (Animation) Won this movie is a great watch and definitely gives justice to Arakawa's FMA world and theme the story though not groundbreaking made sense,(its just a side trip adventure afterall, it doesn't need to surpass the main storyline) the fight scenes are fantastic and the art/animation is just cool and classy and Mustang's line at the end is notable btw, i absolutely need more dose of Sakamoto Maaya especially with a character as admirable, and beautiful as Julia (she kinda reminds me of Studio Ghibli's heroines) |
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Feb 13, 2012 1:56 PM
#49
Nice, but it's like any other anime movie (except for Gintama); just a filler. Mustang was in Milos only for funservice , he didnt' do anything. And they were ignoring human transmutation rules: you can't heal someone, even for a little scratch, without a Philosopher Stone (like Marco), and they use it only in the end. 3/5 |
Feb 13, 2012 4:58 PM
#50
nedstark1990 said: Nice, but it's like any other anime movie (except for Gintama); just a filler. Mustang was in Milos only for funservice , he didnt' do anything. And they were ignoring human transmutation rules: you can't heal someone, even for a little scratch, without a Philosopher Stone (like Marco), and they use it only in the end. 3/5 Wasn't there mentioning of medical alchemy in Brotherhood, and when ed was injured(can't remember when) he shortened his life time to heal a lethal wound iirc |
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