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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh right, got the time an hour wrong. So, thar we got a little background on the connection between Grevil and Jacqueline. But really, that is one eccentric woman. And Victo tries pretending to be a doll. Made me lol. Ahem, anyway. Grevil looked kinda cool without that drill. And then he had to ask Victo for help to save Jacquline, and DUN DUN DUN the drill was born. |
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| Very interesting conversation Grevil had with his father I think it was. Can't wait for more of this story to develop. Also, Grevil looks badass without the Drill. Edit: Rewatched the beginning, it was his father. |
| lol so thats how the drill became to be well, I guess it was a fair price, yet I wonder what he uses to keep that drill perfectly in tact xD;; ...1 bottle of hair gel? ..or..sometype of perm? ..mmmm.. LOL as for Victorique acting like a doll was interesting Q-chan LOL |
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| So, it seems that Victorique forced Grevil to wear that horrible hair style as compensation for helping solve Jacqueline's case...and to also hurt him. But, Grevil took the opportunity to set Victorique straight and made her cry! Honestly, unless something major happens soon, I don't see myself lasting for 13 more episodes. |
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| Good ep. Felt like filler but good filler? IT EXISTS. |
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| Nice episode and poor Grevil. He helped his crush out and she goes and marries someone else. |
| My opinion of Grevil skyrocketed this episode. I always found him very arrogant and annoying, but it seems like it's just a front. His actions showed that he truly cared for Jacqueline, and wanted her to find happiness, even at the cost of his own, a truly altruistic act. This has proven to me that Grevil is not as shallow as he first appears, and that he is in fact a very kind and honorable man. |
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| Shinku pretending to be a doll? Somebody pour her tea already. |
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AzureSkyz said: My opinion of Grevil skyrocketed this episode. I always found him very arrogant and annoying, but it seems like it's just a front. His actions showed that he truly cared for Jacqueline, and wanted her to find happiness, even at the cost of his own, a truly altruistic act. This has proven to me that Grevil is not as shallow as he first appears, and that he is in fact a very kind and honorable man. Same. That really was cruel of Vic., to ask him to do that. It makes him look like an arrogant doofus. Now, if she had been in that tower her whole life, how would she have been able to solve mysteries? If she'd always been sheltered, how does she know so much? She knew about writing left-handed without knowing the definition of "love"? Or is her "wellspring of wisdom" really something supernatural? |
| Gravil's hair is better looking overall in the past! Eh~ Victorique and Gravil are siblings (or something similarly related)? |
tsubasaloverApr 1, 2011 8:12 PM
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| The backstory on his hair/love and the doll moment were the two highlights of the episode. Can't think of anything else noteworthy. |
| I think the reason she made the comment was that she had not heard it (love) addressed to her by any of the family. Quite clearly she has a better understanding of what it means now in her deredere moments when she forgets to be tsun. And yes, Grevil did improve his reputation with this backstory episode, although it already appeared that he is much more favorably disposed towards Victorique than his father (and appears to understand the relationship between Kujou and her). |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the legend of Grevil's hair. THE END XDD I actually liked this filler episode :D I already respected Grevil 2 arcs ago but this ep made it really deserving for him :D Dammit, I want a Victorique doll NOW!!! XDD IceAndCream said: ^I may have an answer for that. If I remember correctly, there's an episode that she read books even though she was locked up in that castle. She read a lot of books just like she's reading many books at the same time in the library tower. Perhaps, she read too much detective novels or something that's why she could come up with answers XDD Love, on the other hand, is a word that couldn't explain by the definition itself that's why Victorique was so clueless XDDNow, if she had been in that tower her whole life, how would she have been able to solve mysteries? If she'd always been sheltered, how does she know so much? She knew about writing left-handed without knowing the definition of "love"? Or is her "wellspring of wisdom" really something supernatural? |
DenjaXApr 1, 2011 9:05 PM
| I felt this episode was pretty good xD |
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| V acting like a Doll. Best part. xD ~Gosick is awesome!! :) |
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| The legend of the drill haiiirrr..... Doll Victorique ftw! |
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| this episode is WAY BETTER than Fractale's last episode in my opinion. it definitely is worth the wait, and waiting for episode 12 starting now is torture. XD Love can't be described by words, and w/ Victorique confined in that place since she was born, w/o even feeling love from her mother and other relatives., she definitely doesn't know it. and on the questions about Victorique's deductions about the case, we only heard the "reconstructed" scenario, Glaviel and Victorique might have done things beforehand (talk,explanations, case details,character details, etc.) before Victorique reconstructed the case. |
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
| I feel kinda bad for Grevil now :( |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| I really like Grevil's story and...his hair in the past XD but I don't like he made Victorique cried at the end though |
| So that's the reason for Grevil's past. What Grevil said to Victorique was a little confusing, but I think I got the gist of it. |
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| Grevil is curced by a drill D: i feel rly bad for him |
Hakochi said: or maybe he visits Gintoki's 'that' parlor XDwell, I guess it was a fair price, yet I wonder what he uses to keep that drill perfectly in tact xD;; ...1 bottle of hair gel? ..or..sometype of perm? ..mmmm.. LOL Grevil's past/present is a little sad and the back story made me like him quiet a lot plus he is actually handsome ;D Oh Vic...you meanie! I did not like the whole 'i don't know what love means' thing. Its plain stupid. Jacqueline surely seems like a fun lady. |
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| That was somewhat a sweet episode between Grevil and Jacqueline. Grevil looks kinda cool without his drill though. |
| I still don't get how the drill was meant to make him suffer..... |
| Seems Gosick won't disappoint me in the slightest. Still longing for the next episodes :] |
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benevolentfather said: I still don't get how the drill was meant to make him suffer..... I'm not 100% sure myself, but I don't think the drill itself makes Grevil suffer. I think it's a constant reminder of the case that made him give up his own happiness for the sake of the one he loved. |
| I knew Grevil was a bishounen back then :P |
benevolentfather said: I still don't get how the drill was meant to make him suffer..... A reminder that he could not save the woman he loved by himself, and the fact it looks really damn stupid, lol. But seriously, as shown in the flashback Victorique apparently didn't understand concepts like love or possibly even emotions, so she didn't know how to make him suffer and the hair was the only thing (a very childish thing) she could come up with. |
| Ara ara. |
| Poor Grevil. :( Too bad Jacquline hasn't realized her feelings for Grevil before marriage (since it seems that she had feelings for him). Also, it seems that his father doesn't really care about his son. The man needs only Victorique because of her ability. :( Next episode will have Avril! Yay! DoctorDoom said: benevolentfather said: I still don't get how the drill was meant to make him suffer..... A reminder that he could not save the woman he loved by himself, and the fact it looks really damn stupid, lol. But seriously, as shown in the flashback Victorique apparently didn't understand concepts like love or possibly even emotions, so she didn't know how to make him suffer and the hair was the only thing (a very childish thing) she could come up with. Well, she was just a child. |
| This episode changed my opinion about Grevil. Before I see him as an arrogant guy but seeing his past, he's good inside. Liked the Doll Victorique. xD More Avril next ep. :) |
| Favorite episode of the show so far :) Loved Victorique as a doll-pretend. Very cute. Grevil's story was pretty sad. I don't really know who I should feel more sorry for, though: Grevil or Victorique. Grevil couldn't save the one he loved, and he selflessly allowed Jacqueline to marry someone else. But Victorique, for never knowing what love is being locked up. She helped Grevil with his case, and how Grevil thanked her after all these years was by condemning her by not understanding love. |
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guyklc said: Grevil's story was pretty sad. I don't really know who I should feel more sorry for, though: Grevil or Victorique. Grevil couldn't save the one he loved, and he selflessly allowed Jacqueline to marry someone else. But Victorique, for never knowing what love is being locked up. She helped Grevil with his case, and how Grevil thanked her after all these years was by condemning her by not understanding love. Yes, exactly. Everytime I start to like Grevil a little better, he does something cruel to Victorique to undo that opinion. Calling her a grey wolf, saying she doesn't have a heart and doesn't understand what love is, is so cruel. He's well aware she's been locked up and isolated for ca. 7 years of her life, seperated from her mother. He does seem to care for her, but he probably had the 'Victorique is the shame of our family' hammered into him to such a degree, that he cant help himself hurting her. |
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| I can't stand Grevil.. this episode made me hate him even more. Calling Victorique a heartless gray wolf cause she didn't know what love was? For heavens sakes, his bastard of a family has had her locked up away from everyone and everything. Sure Grevils past is "sad", but not really that much so. He uses Victorique just to further the honor of his family, as he even said. I don't really like the stereotypical goth loli, but that was pretty messed up. |
| firs of all, the "drill" has become an official word in the Anime of Gosick .LOL |
| This episode showed one of the strongest points about this series. Even though the mysteries have lacked any depth to them, the character's do have interesting back stories and I love how they interact with each other. I saw Grevil differently now thanks to this episode I hope to see more like this. |
| Of course everyone feels sorry for Grevil, since his past was quiet interesting but why keep Victorique locked up in a dungeon to never hear the word "love"? That seems strange to me...I want Grevil to have his old hair style, it suits him better. |
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| Past Victorique is CUTE...... Damn... Grevil.... Why you made Victorique Cry..... |
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| So now we know why Grevil has that weird hair style. I wonder if Victorique will ever ask him to stop wearing it personally i thought Grevil looked better with the long hair. I am also wondering if Grevil and Victorique have any more siblings judged by there background story and there weird father this might be very possible. Grevil's behavior at Victorique was kind of odd he knows now that Victorique's mother was innocent and his behavior towards Victorique changed tho that scene between them seemed to suggest otherwise. There father seemed like a very strange person the short moment we saw him and what we heard from him, i wonder how he got that way. And then there is Jacqueline who is a very interesting person she is very playful and it's nice to know that she is the woman Grevil loves. I wonder if Grevil can get over her and find a other girl he likes but time will tell i guess. |
| poor victorique TwT i think she loves kujo somuch she cried by grevils words and poor grevil living a married women ohh maybe she needed to propose toher before when he was young and without the drill XD |
| Life is bittersweet can you live with that? |
| Great to see some more backstory on Grevil and Jaqueline. Also with that we got to know more about Victorique's demand aka Grevil's drill hair. Poor Victorique didn't even know what "love" was. Dammit Grevil, you made her cry with those words! D: Luckily we're going to see some summer action next week! =D |
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| So, now we know about the reasons of that hairstyle and his relation with Jacqueline. |
Rainy_008 said: Yes, because Victorique helped Grevil out, he has to have his hair like that. From the ep, it looks like the hairstle doesn't bother him at all, so I think he'd keep his hair like that, unless if V. tells him to change it back or something. What WOULD'VE bothered him would be to "stop loving Jacqueline", but since V. didn't know what love was (at the time...) she couldn't have made him do that.I'm still confused. So his consequence for Victoria telling him what really happened was that he had to have that hairstyle? Is it something that he has to maintain on his own? or is it just always there? I'm confused? Could he just one day decide not to have it be a drill?! Anyways, my opinions on Grevil keep on changing... At the parts w/ coollonghair!Grevil and Jacqueline I'm all like "aww" and :D, but then when he becomes a jackass ('kay, harsh words, but whatev) to Victorique, I'm like DD: |
| What's this? An episode of Gosick that I liked? Say it isn't so! |
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| Yay for character development! I enjoyed it (despite the "mystery" being easier to solve than one of Scooby-Doo's), but looks like the next episode will be some sort of useless beach episode *sigh* |
| Greveil is such an annoying bastard. But he actually seemed far better when he was younger... with his hair down. Now he says stupid things like you have no heart? He used that event to conclude she has no heart. But I guess being stupid he can't put into context that Victorique was a little girl trapped in a place and would know nothing of humane feelings because the people who should really be taking care of her never showed her a sign of those feelings and are incarcerating her as if she was some kind of monstrosity. Victorique in that case is the most superior human in that whole place. I really didn't expect Greveil to be so harsh without knowing what he's talking about.... But I guess he's just any other arrogant man. Unlike Kujo who is just naturally clueless about everything. Looking forward to the next episode then I guess. |
| Best episode in a while IMO Nice to see Grevil and Jacqueline more, I like both of them. I think he looks better with his current hairstyle actually lol XD Plus he looked super cool when he was talking to Victorica lol :3 So Victorica's gained feelings? Uh ... OK lol Mystery was not a mystery at all. Obviously it looked like a P, and obviously she wrote it on her arm and they did not "magically appear". Don't quite know the motive for why she killed the vet guy so I wouldn't say it's obvious who the killer would be ... Avril next episode? Yay! :D |
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