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| Page 1 - "the flames of battle-list burn in his eye" - battle-LUST, no? Just when did Haku get so good with his bloodline? I mentioned that already when he used that shield, but now he can apparently make his mirrors wherever he wants! He made one in front of himself, the other near his enemies and BAM - senbon for everyone while he retreats back to the first mirror! Zabuza going all "Kill me, please~" on Kakashi was too ooc in my opinion, but whatever. Still, I'm not surprised they didn't mention Sasuke - Sakura stood in front of them so they acknowledged her and asked about the one they had most contact with. Naruto had a life-altering discussions with Haku and managed to get through Zabuza's defences just before he died. I'd imagine that it caused some impact in them. |
RotekiDec 16, 2010 8:29 AM
| Whatever Kabuto has up his sleeves, i can't wait to see! The mystery is all around him and Madara. |
| Hmm it seems someone keeps Whining of Pain/Nagato's defeat when this was the Fucking staple of Naruto dammit. Almost everybody that Naruto fought he has at one point a conversation about their negative ways such as Neji, Gaara and Zabuza to name a few. |
KantonKageXDec 16, 2010 9:38 AM
Fai said: The whole war is there just so there are ~30+ additional chapters in the manga before we go against sasuke or madara or both. I hope it will be 30+ chapters or maximum 52.. thats great and that's how manga should cover story. not that fights between 10 peoples take 2 years and in the end hax guy beat the hell out of everyone with one shot and a newbie human beat that big boss with one shot. game over. wth was that 2 years for? totally waste of time. |
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Tsuki-Hime said: Fai said: The whole war is there just so there are ~30+ additional chapters in the manga before we go against sasuke or madara or both. I hope it will be 30+ chapters or maximum 52.. thats great and that's how manga should cover story. not that fights between 10 peoples take 2 years and in the end hax guy beat the hell out of everyone with one shot and a newbie human beat that big boss with one shot. game over. wth was that 2 years for? totally waste of time. Even then he failed. It was because there was a kido in a kido gambit that the big bad lost. |
KantonKageXDec 16, 2010 10:44 AM
| Hee. :) I want to know Kabuto's that too. |
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| @Fai: You're so full of truth... but c'mon... I was actually going to say to give Kishi a break... But we've really ignored lots of lame moments before... Okay bash him you're on your rights to bash him, but please just enjoy a tiny bit what he releases each chapter. But I do fear for Kabutomaru... I hope what you say doesn't happen to him! Seriously he's the charac with a dash of redeemable features... Everyone else has failed to be an interesting and memorable character. Anyway I find Kabutomaru a bit... too daring for his own good... Really... why he needs to tell all that... He has something under his sleeve I bet... I gotta admit the convo was a bit lame but that proves that both Kabuto and Madara are petty... Oh lolz... here comes the clash between armies... And Zetsus are being the awesome canonfodder here... Yay for Zetsus' Eruption! That was so hilarious and immediately thought that someone was going to bash that hahaha... Wasn't wrong.. someone did XDDDD... To me was fun to see them flying out like that. Oh nice meet up! Finally the old battle revives... I liked that part... It was kewl to see Haku and Zabusa on the move again... And I do agree with that someone who said that it's a shameful thing bein revived after being such warrior--- Poor Zabusa... I feel rather too bad for him... And he released the Demon inside! Oh noes... I hope that doesn't make things harder for him... and the other Zombies -_-... Interesting intro chappie Signs, Green |
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rebwaters said: @Fai: You're so full of shit... but c'mon... I was actually going to say to give Kishi a break... But we've really ignored lots of lame moments before... Okay bash him you're on your rights to bash him, but please just enjoy a tiny bit what he releases each chapter. I took the liberty of altering a word to make it truthful. As a common agreer with Fai, you should know by now that anything Kishi does is bad in his opinion. You go into a manga looking for flaws and problems and you will find them. |
| Oh, for a moment we got to see Sakura~ What a rare moment recently~ And I guess this is all of the roles she plays here~:/ |
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sayami said: Oh, for a moment we got to see Sakura~ What a rare moment recently~ And I guess this is all of the roles she plays here~:/ she only got one frame...I don't really care though, I don't really favour most of the protaginists...... damn I just realised how freakin shallow i am :/ |
BakaKawaii said: rebwaters said: @Fai: You're so full of shit... but c'mon... I was actually going to say to give Kishi a break... But we've really ignored lots of lame moments before... Okay bash him you're on your rights to bash him, but please just enjoy a tiny bit what he releases each chapter. I took the liberty of altering a word to make it truthful. As a common agreer with Fai, you should know by now that anything Kishi does is bad in his opinion. You go into a manga looking for flaws and problems and you will find them. +3 Votes |
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sayami said: Oh, for a moment we got to see Sakura~ What a rare moment recently~ And I guess this is all of the roles she plays here~:/ Of course, when was the last time Kishi gave Sakura or any female for that matter, a moment to shine? Well except for the sasori thing but that was a long time ago... |
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| what a decent chapter this was. A lot of character popped out with only a few exposures but at least their there. The conversation between Madara and Kabuto was amusing, introverts talking to each other... hehe. I was hoping to see Suigetsu and Zabusa meet up and Zabusa will be like surprise to see his sword or something... From the way Madara and Kabuto talks, I kinda get the feeling that Madara is'nt really Tobi, oh well, I was really hung up on that theory for a while. Just a thought! ^^ |
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Bonar said: Page 1 - "the flames of battle-list burn in his eye" - battle-LUST, no? Just when did Haku get so good with his bloodline? I mentioned that already when he used that shield, but now he can apparently make his mirrors wherever he wants! He made one in front of himself, the other near his enemies and BAM - senbon for everyone while he retreats back to the first mirror! Zabuza going all "Kill me, please~" on Kakashi was too ooc in my opinion, but whatever. Still, I'm not surprised they didn't mention Sasuke - Sakura stood in front of them so they acknowledged her and asked about the one they had most contact with. Naruto had a life-altering discussions with Haku and managed to get through Zabuza's defences just before he died. I'd imagine that it caused some impact in them. I agree, when did Haku became so strong huh, did they train in the after life too... LOL! What about Sai, he's always on the scene nowadays, but he's always showing his weak sides... |
| "Either Die as a Hero... or live long enough to see yourself becoming the villain..." |
| huh, Kabuto is getting serous? ;] |
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chris-yang said: when did Haku became so strong huh, did they train in the after life too... LOL! What about Sai.. What about Sai, he's always on the scene nowadays, but he's always showing his weak sides... Haku is Strong. its just that peoples had false impression about his powers, just because naruto punched him and he accepted his defeat after just one punch. if thats the case then you might think, kabuto was so weak because naruto hit him with rasengan, but on the same time he was par with tsunade hand to hand combat. Just 2 chapters ago when Sai was enraged and kicked Sasori, here everyone was saying when did he become so strong and now Haku attacked Sai and break his ink jutsu, that doesn't mean Sai is weak now, haku attack didn't even hit him. Edit reason: fixed a mistake |
Han-yuuDec 18, 2010 12:50 PM
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reaght said: Fai said: AstuteOtaku said: And considering Sakura is a genjutsu type, shouldn't Kakashi or someone teach her? If she learned that she would be on equal or greater level to Tsunade. But you see, she is a woman. When was the last time in this manga when a WOMAN did something important to the plot, apart from wasting panels? Not to mention that kishi already wasted a perfect concept of her(The whole genjutsu, chakra control stuff, etc) on making her into "oh yay she can punch people and heal people". Kishimoto is a textbook sexist. He hates his female characters or at very least has a very warped sense of "good female character (according to interview, the whole "Sakura tries to kill sauce with a stick and fails" plotline was showing on just how "awesome heroine" sakura is....) - So Madara continues to play around with Kabuto...oh kabuto, you were a good character, but you will most likely be used as another fodder for Madaras awesome and totally "surprising" power... - For a second I thought that something epic will happen, but nope, just people taking out token zetsu fodder. - And time for zabuza's character derailment "please killll meeeee".... - Overall another time-wasting chapter. Just get rid of fodder already so we can have madara gloat about how powerful he is end get the end fights of the "war". 2/5 I have got the idea that kabuto is the most tricky one atm. I love how madara gets irritated by him. Madara is full of regret i guess for letting Kabuto on his team. Madara gloating how powerful he is? he never did that, not in the Aizen way your thinking of. Cause i have to agree on you on that one, Aizen was full of bullshit. Furthermore i still dont really like that technique of Kabuto and all those zetsu's. Its a bit cheap if you ask me. But aside from that this chapter was pretty enjoyable. Haha! yeah that was kind of funny because what Madara is doing right now is anything but gloating about his power. He clearly shows that he has fear over what Kabuto might be planning and his extremely careful about him but at the same moment he can't just stop their partnership because he needs him to help him with the war. The one thing i give Fai is the thing about women. Kishimoto indeed undervalues women. He also cares a lot about men relationships, ether friendship, teacher, mentor, savior or whatever and along with some hints that he also throws out there, make me very suspicious about Kishimoto's sexuality. Anyway things ain't bad but they don't really feel exciting ether. I expected the war to be more awesome than this. Maybe if i see Gaara kicking some ass i will feel better about it. |
Monad said: Haha! yeah that was kind of funny because what Madara is doing right now is anything but gloating about his power. He clearly shows that he has fear over what Kabuto might be planning and his extremely careful about him but at the same moment he can't just stop their partnership because he needs him to help him with the war. I would have been the first one to enjoy to see Madara actually struggling. Sadly each time Madara struggled, it was followed by Madara doing a speech on how he will do that and that. "oh no Itachi is burning me aaaa" => "I will manipulate everyone around and tell you a story on how awesome I was and how I will do that and that!" "oh no pain got suicided" => "ha ha, he was just a decoy, lets go the plan I saw on the Pinky and the Brain". "oh no danzo you bastard you know a lot of stuff and plan to get kyuubi for yourself!" -> "ha ha , danzou, uchiha are superior, i have whole pocket dimension of eyes and thousands of plans and my izanagi is way better" "oh no, my pawn Sasuke is getting beaten by kages" => "ha ha, it was my planned training session for him and now i announce my huge plans" "oh no, Fourth just rasenganed me" => "ha ha, I shrug it off and do my evil villain routine of childnappings and pregnant women attacks" "oh no, Konan just spammed me with exploding paper" => "ha ha, i survive because i have the very perfect skills and ultimate ctrl+z power" Its just that after every time madara got some sort of EVEN MINOR obstacle, he does a boasting trumphant turnaround in chapter or two. The moment Kabuto replaces Madara as final villain, I will regain faith in this manga. However sadly, it will most likely go with Kabuto seemingly being few steps ahead till Madara does his usual boasting and kabuto gets done in. Monad said: He also cares a lot about men relationships, ether friendship, teacher, mentor, savior or whatever and along with some hints that he also throws out there, make me very suspicious about Kishimoto's sexuality. What, the constant almost-homosexual innuendos in this manga were not enough to question his sexuality? I mean in a very core of the story you have a boy who can turn into a girl.... but let's not get all freudian here... Monad said: Anyway things ain't bad but they don't really feel exciting ether. I expected the war to be more awesome than this. Maybe if i see Gaara kicking some ass i will feel better about it. Well, I feel similar. The current arc IS better than watching Sasuke act like a raving madman, seeing naruto "training" or Naruto's everlasting philosophical journey of failing to grasp simple concept and hyperventilating. It is better than summit or lets-danzo-the-danzo sagas. The problem is that everything in this war is so anticlimatic and does not evoke any feeling at all: "oh sai-brotha is there....oh well..." "oh zetsus attack....oh they are taken out already" "oh anko will fight kabutomaru!...nevermind off-paneled" "oh naruto will learn a techni.....nevermind its rasengan..." "oh sasori is ba....oh he is dead already and happy" The word I'd use to describe the current state of naruto manga is : apathy. the bits of war we saw in kakashi gaiden chapters were so much better than this current war. This war lacks sides, this war lacks scale, this war lacks tactics, this war lacks massive sieges, this war lacks army variety and whats more important - this war lacks the unpredictability of war. Wars, when done correctly and unpredictably, can be most awesome parts of storyline(for example: the burning of london in hellsing ultimate, various scenes in berserk, northern war in claymore and so on), but all this current war brings up is apathy. anyone who brings up something from bleach to counter this post is officially stupid and biased, because this has nothing to do with bleach and everyone knows that my opinion on bleach "war" was that it had no war at all. |
AhenshihaelDec 18, 2010 2:41 PM
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Fai said: Wars, when done correctly and unpredictably, can be most awesome parts of storyline(for example: the burning of london in hellsing ultimate, various scenes in berserk, northern war in claymore and so on), but all this current war brings up is apathy. Really hate to admit but I have to agree with esp. the bolded part. I have been feeling apathy throughout this whole war (except during the moment between Kakashi, Zabuza and Haku). |
| Kakaishi v. Zabuza, the only reason I am glad that everyone got resurrected, this should be fun. Just don't end it in tears, please Kishi, please Kabuto definitely has something p his sleeve, but then again he always does. |
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Fai said: So if Madara does something it's illegal but if Aizen does it the very exact thing with interest you'd come up with some Bullshit "reference" on why it was a justified hax.Monad said: Haha! yeah that was kind of funny because what Madara is doing right now is anything but gloating about his power. He clearly shows that he has fear over what Kabuto might be planning and his extremely careful about him but at the same moment he can't just stop their partnership because he needs him to help him with the war. I would have been the first one to enjoy to see Madara actually struggling. Sadly each time Madara struggled, it was followed by Madara doing a speech on how he will do that and that. "oh no Itachi is burning me aaaa" => "I will manipulate everyone around and tell you a story on how awesome I was and how I will do that and that!" "oh no pain got suicided" => "ha ha, he was just a decoy, lets go the plan I saw on the Pinky and the Brain". "oh no danzo you bastard you know a lot of stuff and plan to get kyuubi for yourself!" -> "ha ha , danzou, uchiha are superior, i have whole pocket dimension of eyes and thousands of plans and my izanagi is way better" "oh no, my pawn Sasuke is getting beaten by kages" => "ha ha, it was my planned training session for him and now i announce my huge plans" "oh no, Fourth just rasenganed me" => "ha ha, I shrug it off and do my evil villain routine of childnappings and pregnant women attacks" "oh no, Konan just spammed me with exploding paper" => "ha ha, i survive because i have the very perfect skills and ultimate ctrl+z power" Its just that after every time madara got some sort of EVEN MINOR obstacle, he does a boasting trumphant turnaround in chapter or two. |
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KantonKageX said: because he just hate naruto. that's why everything in this manga is wrong madara is in medieval japan but aizen is on the skies. that means both mangas are different, so the rules are different. check naruto bleach rules book for reference. xD |
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Tsuki-Hime said: KantonKageX said: because he just hate naruto. that's why everything in this manga is wrong madara is in medieval japan but aizen is on the skies. that means both mangas are different, so the rules are different. check naruto bleach rules book for reference. xD Oh, how silly of me now to noticing that major detail. |
Tsuki-Hime said: KantonKageX said: because he just hate naruto. that's why everything in this manga is wrong madara is in medieval japan but aizen is on the skies. that means both mangas are different, so the rules are different. check naruto bleach rules book for reference. xD Oh, how silly of me not to notice that. Thx now I see the difference. |
KantonKageXDec 19, 2010 8:17 PM
reaght said: Well i'm too much of topic here, but 1 more thing. Naruto and Bleach went both through the gutter just because of its immense popularity. Its all about the money now I kinda agree, maybe its all about the money now, but let's face it, there are people who likes the story of a manga and there are those who just have a different opinion about it. The good thing is, people get to see the opinions of others and yeah, gain something from it... I don't really like Bleach, I watched some of it but then eventually stopped that's why I don't have it on my list but after reading comparisons between Bleach and Naruto, I'm now interested in Bleach just to catch up, you know... but I'm not saying that I'll be a fan of Bleach now... I still like Naruto, I'm a huge fan actually! and yeah, I like this chapter a lot! |
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| The best parts of this chapter: 1) Zetsu volcano. I sincerely loved to see all the bodies flying up to the skies :D 2)Old character reunion! Loved Zabuza and Haku, they're beyond awesome <3 Overall, I'd say it was a decent chapter. Hopefully Kishi will keep it that way! |
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| This war is getting better and better! |
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| zabuza always was and will be my favorite naruto character :) |
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| I always liked Zabuza so it was cool to see him again. I wonder what the re-match between him and Kakashi will be like. |
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| With all the fighting and stuffs.. the pages seems a little messy |
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| We will have a rematch with Zabuza and Haku. |
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| The kakashi and zabuza part gives nostalgia from the very beginning |
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| Hakus return is always approved by this guy. Love how consistently he and Zabuza's power was handled. Still elite Shinobi capable of meaningful surprise attacks and adequate tactics, yet certainly left behind in their growth since they were alive. I'd certainly take Haku over Sai in a one on one, however even if he was on par with Kakashi back in the beginning (ambiguously stated he was on or above his level) Kakashi now would make a few minutes work out of both he and Zabuza at this point. Good to see them back regardless. I already watched the anime so I know how it goes, but if I were reading for the first time and were unaware of their return, I'd be hyped!! |
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