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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- That scene, that fucking scene at the end. Fantastic. There is something beautiful about how Fukiko coolly and calmly sticks to her guns and stays as the leader of the Sorority while everyone else in the club freaks out and jumps ship. I've had my issues with her, but I think that scene at the end may of very well been a character defining type of moment. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| The idealistic and petty reasons of the various "revolutionaries", the scramble to survive from the tiny elite; the panic, defections and betrayals on the one hand and steadfast pride on the other...but the latter comes from someone we know is obsessed with trying to control the world around her and is no stranger to thoughts of self-destruction. Is this admirable or pathetic? This is a much better story of the collapse of a privileged upper-class under assault from political and social revolution than Rose of Versailles from the same author. That was set during the French Revolution so I wonder if the author wasn't happy with what she did with the subject matter and tried again in a different setting. If that's what happened she nailed it this time. The blossoms on Fukiko's skirt have always been red, but during part of this episode they are blue, like the flames in her dream of destruction. Is this deliberate or just an animation mistake? |
| I think you have the right idea, Fronzel. The mangaka's previous series Rose of Versailles is really good, but as a story of revolution, as a portrayal of the collapse of the upper-class, it left a bit to be desired. I think she must have felt the same way, and came to the conclusion that she could only capture the true essence of this moment by escaping the bonds of historical accuracy. |
| “Money can't buy dere” |
| For the first time this series, I genuinely felt sorry for Miya. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| At least Miya is sticking with this until the very end while everyone else panicked and jumped ship. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| Marie Antoinette is here. Poor Rei. This episode is f*cking great. Amazing. |
| I must admit that I didn't expect Miya to stay this calm, considering the situation and her position. They've added a lot of scenes and details to this arc in anime, in manga this story wasn't near as complex, and Miya was more of a crazy, pitiful bitch rather than prideful leader. Interesting. |
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| The fires of revolution. The rising up of the lower class. The internal breakdown of the affluent and powerful. The symbol of power and rank corrupted into a stigma of shame. It sure is Rose of Versailles in here. I think the greatest aspect of how everyone's right for all the wrong reasons. Or perhaps, they're all wrong for the right reasons. I think this was highlighted with Rei's internal struggle. No matter what happens, someone's going to get hurt, and the anime goes out of its way to ensure that we know about it. Everyone has a reason for what they're doing, and even the minor characters are being utilized to drive the narrative. Much like Rose of Versailles, the emphasis isn't on the events themselves, but the manner which the events affect the individual characters. There's no correct answer to anything. It's just the characters making decisions that befit their situation and living with the consequences. These actions aren't taken because of some misplaced fate or the forcible will of another character, but through each character's own individual choice. Holy crap. |
| I more or less hated Miya throughout the series but got respect her staying in the Sorority despite her utter defeat. The last scene was beautiful. |
| Bit of respect to Miya for sticking with being the Sorority until the very end with no members being there for her anymore. |
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| "Why stay with the sinking ship until the very end, when only the captain gets any glory from it?" Other lines lines I really liked too were the one from Mariko's dad novel and Kaoru making clear what the campaign is really all about. I mistakenly perceived Fukiko as merely entitled before, especially after her childhood flashback and incident with Henmi, but her commitment and dignity can't be ignored. Felt like a good ending for her character arc. Although it may as well be an act of despair or fanaticism. Only one thing matters to her. Something she told herself she has to pursue in order to be worth something. Abaonding the Sorority would mean everything she has worked on was a waste of time or in other case would make her feel worthless. That would be case of foolish pride. Makes me think of a One Piece character who followed his ideals despite knowing better, he just couldn't help himself Spoiler from chapter 770 and 779 below Strong af episode again |
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One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| The last scene sent shivers down my spine and it was too heavy for me. I felt sadness, and pithiness yet was amazed at Miya's unshakable pride. Simply beautiful. Yet it's a situation where no matter how it ends, there will be someone that got hurt by it. And Kaouru seeing glimpses of the real intentions of a large number of the people that signed the petition was sad but it's the reality of the world that we live in. Sadly not everyone does things for the right reasons. |
| I am sleepy |
| Miya going to meet Rei to appease her fears before her public commitment to "sink with the ship" is a different display of her entitlement, she likes Rei's loyalty for her and know she can still sway her even though now her influence seems to be getting less powerful it was probably the only way she could be so calm performing her duty as the president in front of such empty room. Kaoru seeing the other side of the support she's getting was a great moment, I like how the scene felt suffocated by the rest that was happening in the episode because it highlights her frustration even more. Hoping Rei can get over her "love" for Miya in some way. Amazing way to end the episode. |
| This was a great Miya episode, and episode all around. It talks of people who only join groups for their own benefit. At the beginning, it was mostly because it was fashionable to do. Remember, a lot of them signed because they had a crush on Rei and Kaoru. Big picture, it's just group think and the "in" thing. Then it was followed by people who were scorned by the system, so they want to abolish it out of revenge. Lastly, people who are panicking and want to jump off the sinking ship. It's very telling that aside from the people who organized it in the first place, Misaki was one of the few people who actually had admirable intentions for signing it. That's growth. It's also sort of admirable, but mixed in with pathetic, that Miya chooses to stay on the sinking ship. She's sticking to her guns. On one hand, it's pathetic to stay on a sinking ship. She's on the WRONG side of history. Though on the other hand, you do have to respect that she doesn't falter when the going gets tough. No matter what, she's seeing her decision to the end. It also talks of the toxic sides of love and femininity. Miya is the ideal woman on paper, and she kind of deconstructs that thinking. It's worth noting that several of the men who comment on this series, are horrified of Miya. Though if you actually examine her:
This was a brilliant deconstruction of how femininity and the ideal woman can be twisted. |
| Miya acts like nothing is wrong, and her calmness is surprising, considering the way she'd been acting not too many episodes ago. The sorority is falling apart, but the people who quit are just as selfish as they were before. Was what Kaoru did for nothing? |
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