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Jan 3, 2013 6:26 PM
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Just one movie.
Jan 3, 2013 6:31 PM
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Movies attract a slightly different audience, so it could potentially bring in new fans. Also, it's just a different approach with a different payout, so they probably want to see how the series fares in movie form.
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Jan 4, 2013 9:55 AM
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because this anime / manga is really bad thats why
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Jan 6, 2013 9:56 AM
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Im going to take a stab in the dark and say.....Because of gore. Im pretty sure there is going to be tons of limbs and ripping flesh flying around in this arc. It would be destoryed if it were to air on tv with tons of black/white lines censoring it every since of the way.
Jan 6, 2013 10:16 AM
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Tbh the reason is likely due to the fact that Kizu is probably as short as Neko in terms of source material. It would probably be terrible to extend this to like 12 episodes stretching the source material in doing so. Given the fact that it is a prequel to Bake and Nise, this makes more sense.
Jan 6, 2013 9:21 PM
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Im going to take a stab in the dark and say.....Because of gore. Im pretty sure there is going to be tons of limbs and ripping flesh flying around in this arc. It would be destoryed if it were to air on tv with tons of black/white lines censoring it every since of the way.


Oh yeah, Kizumonogatari is near the level of Hellsing: Ultimate violence. It may not happen every 3-4 minutes like in Hellsing: Ultimate, but it has the same quality of gore.
Jan 6, 2013 9:29 PM
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I actually have a horrible suspicion, that I hope is completely wrong.

Because it centers around Araragi. The amount of girls is reduced to two: Hanekawa and Shinobu. And they don't get much screen time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the huge attracting factors of the Bakemonogatari series is the girls and promise of fan service. Kizumonogatari centers around the male character Araragi, and the fan service scenes are a minimum. I feel that financially, it would not do as well as the others, because after all, what kind of otaku fanboy wants to see Araragi fight, when he could buy some other fan service series instead?

Making it a movie ensures financial success, because each viewing will be charged at the theaters, as opposed to airing on television.

But also, it's relatively short length is probably to blame.
Jan 6, 2013 9:34 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the huge attracting factors of the Bakemonogatari series is the girls and promise of fan service. Kizumonogatari centers around the male character Araragi, and the fan service scenes are a minimum. I feel that financially, it would not do as well as the others, because after all, what kind of otaku fanboy wants to see Araragi fight, when he could buy some other fan service series instead?

This is similar to my hypothesis. Not only is there not quite enough content for Kizu to get a series, but the content simply doesn't have the main promise of fan service that is pretty much a given in the other monogataris. Having Kizu adapted into a movie is the best financial bet for SHAFT (who still has plenty of other LNs in the series with which to draw content from).




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Jan 6, 2013 9:40 PM
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Red_Keys said:
I actually have a horrible suspicion, that I hope is completely wrong.

Because it centers around Araragi. The amount of girls is reduced to two: Hanekawa and Shinobu. And they don't get much screen time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the huge attracting factors of the Bakemonogatari series is the girls and promise of fan service. Kizumonogatari centers around the male character Araragi, and the fan service scenes are a minimum. I feel that financially, it would not do as well as the others, because after all, what kind of otaku fanboy wants to see Araragi fight, when he could buy some other fan service series instead?

Making it a movie ensures financial success, because each viewing will be charged at the theaters, as opposed to airing on television.

But also, it's relatively short length is probably to blame.
I am sure that SHAFT can throw ecchi scenes in several places of the story.
We still have Hanekawa and Shinobu( in many ages and sizes).They can easily do something.

In Nise anime,although I havent read its LN volume,when Shinobu talks to Araragi while she is in his shadow,she is sitting half naked on a couch.For some reason I doubt that the LN describes that scene.

And then there is Neko:Kuro where SHAFT went out of their way to cut ecchi scenes for the story to progress.They could have made the duration of the series 5 minute longer and add them too but they didnt.

The problem is only the length and maybe the gore.
Jan 6, 2013 10:18 PM

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ssjokg said:
Red_Keys said:
I actually have a horrible suspicion, that I hope is completely wrong.

Because it centers around Araragi. The amount of girls is reduced to two: Hanekawa and Shinobu. And they don't get much screen time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the huge attracting factors of the Bakemonogatari series is the girls and promise of fan service. Kizumonogatari centers around the male character Araragi, and the fan service scenes are a minimum. I feel that financially, it would not do as well as the others, because after all, what kind of otaku fanboy wants to see Araragi fight, when he could buy some other fan service series instead?

Making it a movie ensures financial success, because each viewing will be charged at the theaters, as opposed to airing on television.

But also, it's relatively short length is probably to blame.
I am sure that SHAFT can throw ecchi scenes in several places of the story.
We still have Hanekawa and Shinobu( in many ages and sizes).They can easily do something.

In Nise anime,although I havent read its LN volume,when Shinobu talks to Araragi while she is in his shadow,she is sitting half naked on a couch.For some reason I doubt that the LN describes that scene.

And then there is Neko:Kuro where SHAFT went out of their way to cut ecchi scenes for the story to progress.They could have made the duration of the series 5 minute longer and add them too but they didnt.

The problem is only the length and maybe the gore.
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.

I also hope they don't ruin it by adding excessive fan service. I want to see Araragi be badass, and that's it damn it!
Jan 6, 2013 10:25 PM

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Red_Keys said:
ssjokg said:
Red_Keys said:
I actually have a horrible suspicion, that I hope is completely wrong.

Because it centers around Araragi. The amount of girls is reduced to two: Hanekawa and Shinobu. And they don't get much screen time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the huge attracting factors of the Bakemonogatari series is the girls and promise of fan service. Kizumonogatari centers around the male character Araragi, and the fan service scenes are a minimum. I feel that financially, it would not do as well as the others, because after all, what kind of otaku fanboy wants to see Araragi fight, when he could buy some other fan service series instead?

Making it a movie ensures financial success, because each viewing will be charged at the theaters, as opposed to airing on television.

But also, it's relatively short length is probably to blame.
I am sure that SHAFT can throw ecchi scenes in several places of the story.
We still have Hanekawa and Shinobu( in many ages and sizes).They can easily do something.

In Nise anime,although I havent read its LN volume,when Shinobu talks to Araragi while she is in his shadow,she is sitting half naked on a couch.For some reason I doubt that the LN describes that scene.

And then there is Neko:Kuro where SHAFT went out of their way to cut ecchi scenes for the story to progress.They could have made the duration of the series 5 minute longer and add them too but they didnt.

The problem is only the length and maybe the gore.
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.

I also hope they don't ruin it by adding excessive fan service. I want to see Araragi be badass, and that's it damn it!
Well except Kissshot every other enemy is a guy so I doubt they will add anything.

Unless if they decide to add
Jan 7, 2013 5:43 AM

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Red_Keys said:
I actually have a horrible suspicion, that I hope is completely wrong.

Because it centers around Araragi. The amount of girls is reduced to two: Hanekawa and Shinobu. And they don't get much screen time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the huge attracting factors of the Bakemonogatari series is the girls and promise of fan service. Kizumonogatari centers around the male character Araragi, and the fan service scenes are a minimum. I feel that financially, it would not do as well as the others, because after all, what kind of otaku fanboy wants to see Araragi fight, when he could buy some other fan service series instead?

Making it a movie ensures financial success, because each viewing will be charged at the theaters, as opposed to airing on television.

But also, it's relatively short length is probably to blame.


I love Koyomi thanks to the LN's. The narration he gets in the anime doesn't even come close to showing his brilliant narration that is in the novels. Kizumonogatari made Koyomi one of my favorite characters, I would go as far as to say some of the best lines of the series are located inside Kizumonogatari. Not too mention that Dramaturgie Vs. Koyomi is one of the funniest fights I've ever read.

And I hope that there isn't excessive fanservice. Really don't need it.
Jan 11, 2013 7:44 AM

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incisorr said:
because this anime / manga is really bad thats why


what? bad? a bad manga - anime get a movie.. yeah really bad -__-
Jan 11, 2013 10:42 PM
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Red_Keys said:
I actually have a horrible suspicion, that I hope is completely wrong.

Because it centers around Araragi. The amount of girls is reduced to two: Hanekawa and Shinobu. And they don't get much screen time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the huge attracting factors of the Bakemonogatari series is the girls and promise of fan service. Kizumonogatari centers around the male character Araragi, and the fan service scenes are a minimum. I feel that financially, it would not do as well as the others, because after all, what kind of otaku fanboy wants to see Araragi fight, when he could buy some other fan service series instead?

Making it a movie ensures financial success, because each viewing will be charged at the theaters, as opposed to airing on television.

But also, it's relatively short length is probably to blame.


Have you read Kizu? Theres still tons of fanservice despite it being about Shinobu and Hanekawa. Maybe not as much as Bake, but theres more than enough and on top of that its not like they couldnt use a little bit of creative licensing to fit more in.

On top of that Kizu actually probably has the strongest story line of all the novels. Its probably the one people would like the best since it combines all of the things we have come to love about Monogatari series with a strong plot which really makes for a strong sense of balance.

Tbh the reason it isn't getting a TV series is likely due to the following

1. Length - Kizu is an arc. Dragging it out only ruins the enjoyment for those who have read it. Those who have read it know that it something you want to marathon. I read it in one night and each chapter left you wanting for more.

2. Its written in a similar manner to a movie script. I mean when reading it you get the feeling that it would be a good movie and much better as a movie than a series since the plot isn't episodic like the other Monogatari arcs.

3. Gore - Im sure it will be toned down even in the movie, but there are some parts where the Gore is extremely necessary in climatic moments. If it gets blanked by one of those red scene screens, it would completely ruin the impact.

4. This is honestly the most anticipated arc out of all the Monogataris and imo the best. The story is very well written. Making it a movie as someone said ensures financial success. Not only will ticket sales be through the roof, but DVD and BD sales would skyrocket especially if the include things like enhanced visual quality and extra scenes.
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incisorr said:
because this anime / manga is really bad thats why

a guy who rates the adaptation of Zetman, MM and K-on with a 10 cant say kizumonogatari isnt good...
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incisorr said:
because this anime / manga is really bad thats why

a guy who rates the adaptation of Zetman, MM and K-on with a 10 cant say kizumonogatari isnt good...

Sure they can. It's called tastes.
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Mar 27, 2013 7:49 PM

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Kizumonogatari doesn't have enough material for even six episodes right.
May 15, 2013 10:17 AM

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A TV series for it would be lame since by the time it airs we already know everything that will happen IN FUTURE EVENTS from the squeals. This is only meant to be an awesome action packed closing for the Monogatari Series.
Jun 7, 2013 2:59 AM

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after thinking maybe this may be the reason.. "because the anime monogatari dont have a movie.." -_- simple right?
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First off,

All of you insulting Shaft should just leave, because Shaft made Monogatari awesome.

Second,

The Novels have MORE FAN SERVICE than the anime does.

So Strike Two.

Third,

Nisemonogatari was written as a joke by the author because he thought all the stuff in it would be funny.

It's non canon. Its a fake story.

So stop crying about the toothbrush sex you wish you could have.

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Jun 7, 2013 4:33 AM

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Nisemonogatari was written as a joke by the author because he thought all the stuff in it would be funny.
It's non canon. Its a fake story.
He may have written as something for fun but he never said he wrote it as a joke, and Nise is as much part of the canon as the 2nd season and Kizu.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Jun 9, 2013 6:07 AM

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Solvite said:
First off,

All of you insulting Shaft should just leave, because Shaft made Monogatari awesome.

Second,

The Novels have MORE FAN SERVICE than the anime does.

So Strike Two.

Third,

Nisemonogatari was written as a joke by the author because he thought all the stuff in it would be funny.

It's non canon. Its a fake story.

So stop crying about the toothbrush sex you wish you could have.

SHINBOU 4 LIFE

You are probably the dumbest Mongatari fan that I know.
Jun 9, 2013 10:46 AM

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Karen Bee was unplanned, so he only planned for Bake and Kizu. He wrote Karen fitting his tastes in an amateur style and didn't really plan to release it. He decided to write at least two more books after Tsukihi Phoenix, so Nise was basically meant to be the last story (again).



Any sources to back this up?
Apr 18, 2014 12:02 AM

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I won't mind it being a movie. But I hope it isn't a 90 minute Araragi gets the shit beat out of him type thing. I would like to hope that as a full vampire he would fight back.

If it is something like that last sentence I would not care for fan service at all. But some of these earlier posts make it out to be that any amount of fan service whatsoever kills anything ever.

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I don't care about what form it's going to be released, just release it already, even it's a flash animation.

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