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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- It seems that Section 2 has more cyborgs than just the ones shown in the OP. From the look of things though, Elsa is probably... After all, her role was replaced by Jose during the mission. That must have done massive damage to her pride. |
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| First reply? I'm getting sick of all the talking and less action. |
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| You're watching the wrong show, then. |
| Another powerful episode (poor Elsa, not being able to connect with anyone and not letting anyone get next to her...). |
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| You know Elsa looks like she is probably going to break down in the future with all that neglect emotional abuse and you can help but feel bad with her antisocial attitude :( |
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| Poor Elsa. Her supervisor is one cold dog. |
| Such junk... |
| ugh; i reallyyyy don't like Laruo or however you say his name. He's sucha meany. |
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| Elsa is definitely gonna snap. |
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RyanMortos said: Poor Elsa. Her supervisor is one cold dog. Yeah,poor girl.I feld very bad about her at the end of the episode.Couldn't that bastard see that it's all his fault. |
 "Only the dead have seen the end of war". ~Plato~ |
| Dropped. |
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Skyzong said: Dropped. Your loss man. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Series like this one shouldn't be watched in one day... It's drama, not a random shonen anime... |
| I really, really loved this episode. |
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| LOL at all of you who either dropped this Anime or complaining that their is no action. Anyways, I actually enjoyed this episode. Feel bad for Elsa but she is such a dick... but then again, its not her fault. Its her masters! >:( |
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| This was actually a pretty good episode, I liked it =D. I expected action from the title, but I guess this is good as well. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| It's so sad Elsa has this bad Handler.. DarkShards said: This was actually a pretty good episode, I liked it =D. I expected action from the title, but I guess this is good as well. I too expected action but this is simply great :D |
-------Only God will judge me -------- iSignature |
| Loved this episode, this episode was brave enough to venture away from the manga, certainly looking forward to watching the rest of the series, when i get some time |
| People dropping this definitely had weird expectations from this show. This was a great episode. |
| Damn that ending :| this is rather a sad anime... |
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| yap Elsa is going to snap |
| Poor Elsa. I'm sure she'd go apeshit in the next episode. |
| Ugh Lauro is such a dick. Poor Elsa. |
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| Lauro is scum. There's a reason why they're called Handlers and not just chaperones. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Elsa really likes Lauro, but he doesn't care at all. Sad thing, I have this feeling in the end that she will shoot Jose or Henrietta. |
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| Regardless of whether the handlers are nice or cold toward their cyborgs, they are all a bunch of heartless bastards. The use brainwashed children to assassinate people and they get paid for it. No matter how many teddy bears they buy the girls and no matter how many times they show them the stars at night with a telescope, they are still scum. |
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| Hmmm, I never thought about it, the consequences of Elsa's rampage. What if her actions cause the social welfare agency to make the conditioning level mandatory to a point where they become emotionless dolls... Claes, Henrietta and Triela are screwed. |
| Nothing can happen until you swing the bat. |
Talon184 said: Regardless of whether the handlers are nice or cold toward their cyborgs, they are all a bunch of heartless bastards. The use brainwashed children to assassinate people and they get paid for it. No matter how many teddy bears they buy the girls and no matter how many times they show them the stars at night with a telescope, they are still scum. Have you watched the anime series "Now and Then, Here and There"? The mixed emotions I feel about this show and your comment is perfectly encapsulated in that show. Remember, Claes's first handler, Ravalo, the older chap who was Jean's mentor? He tried to leak this to the media and got assassinated by Jean. They are scum,... but the anime refuses to leave it at just that and let the viewer unabashedly loathe the handlers. They show the viewer the kinder humane sides which struggle against the system, their doubts and insecurities; and the complicated webs binding their actions. In the first episode, the agency was originally set up to use trained adults as assassins and Giuse was very much against it when the news broke out that it was changed to children. Nothing that any of the employees said would've changed the decision, especially if it was going to put a target on their back. The anime is very much a faithful take on how the world really works, with war the demonised sides always has their own tale to show. The terrifying thing is how easy it can be for the viewer to visualise being in their shoes, given a scenario where you are between a rock and a hard place. At work, you often find yourself disagreeing with the company policies on an ethical basis or your boss doing something not acceptable by the books. E.g. Apple factories in China. Can you be the one to stick your neck out and make a stand? Or will it end up like Jean who had to work his way into building an elaborate labyrinth of logical justications to rationalise their work. |
Cloud_IllusionMar 17, 2017 3:53 AM
| Nothing can happen until you swing the bat. |
| Guys, guys even though I feel sad for Elsa too, she screwed up because of jelousy. Lauro isn't abusive bastard like Jean, he is just being proffesional. Etiquette about using girls as cybernetic military tools aside, they are assasinations tools and as such they have much bigger potential to die (in action or because their implantants and conditioning greatly shorten their lifespam). Lauro is trying to keep distance (in some scenes it really looked to me he want to be nicer but keep his distance) to not be emotionaly attached and potentionaly burn out/get depressed if something is going to happen to his girl. Like military and police dogs. For me, dog is family, but in police and especially military dogs are members in service who might die if duty calls for that. Especially in extensive cases like in war soviets trained dogs to bring bombs under enemy tanks and blown themselves. Japanese used people for that. If you get attached you won't be able to do and keep your job in long-term. Maybe Lauro have family he needs to feed. |
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| Elsa... So sad. I think, as several others in this thread, that Lauro is not a "bad" person. He just is approaching his job from a different angle. I don't agree with his approach, but I would never describe him as abusive or "scum." |
| Some very interesting messages down here. Meanwhile, in the previous thread, no one wanted to analyze the Tale of the Prince of Pasta Kingdom. I'm only half kidding. I can't defend the project, or excuse the handlers of their crimes, but, in the case of Giuse for example, maybe it's in Henrietta's best interest that he doesn't leak the operation and instead stays her handler, making her life a little less awful to the best of his abilities, even if his methods cross over to enabling territory. After all, if he tries to leak and gets silenced, who's to say Henrietta's next handler won't be much worse? While I understand Lauro's reasons, it's clear that his methods also fail, at least in-universe. Elsa ends up copying his behavior, obsesses over him his approval to a fault all the same. It's actually quite eerie how much the cyborgs end up being reflections of their handlers. |
LeeTailorJul 6, 2017 7:45 PM
| "I polish his rifle while I think about him" that was funnier than it shouldve been for me. Also did Lauro up the music so she couldnt talk to him ... lmao Seems all Elsa wants is the recognition and love that Henrietta gets and not just be considered a tool. |
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| I'm liking the episodes so far. Poor Elsa, seeing Henrietta and Giuse's relationship made her taken a back since Lauro is really cold to her :/ I feel bad to her but she's also not interested in other people aside from her handler |
  ★━━─ 𝘏𝘰𝘸 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘐 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘺 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘵? 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘥𝘢𝘺? |
| Elsa is too harsh on Henrietta, I mean I guess her words are true.. though not truly That two sniper shots are beautiful, I want to hear the sound though.. not the music :( Well it's easier to lose everything when you only have one thing to lose Just look at Claes, well she got books and good memories I guess unlike Elsa |
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| I guess that shot at the end of the spent shell casing was meant to symbolize how Elsa feels inside. Worst episode yet. Felt empty, just like Elsa. |
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| Poor Elsa, too bad Lauro her handler is just as mean and cold as Rico's handler Jean. |
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| I'm surprised it isn't a prerequisite for a handler to treat their "cyborg" as if they were a normal girl, given that there's still a whole package of emotions, ready to unravel at any moment, when it comes to these girls. Just a little more nuance in their actions and words. |
| Alright episode overall, Elsa's handler sucks ;_; |
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